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LEL - Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« on: 12 July, 2009, 08:22:20 pm »
That got your attention! ensuring  lots of hits on this one

Rode the section from Coxwold to Thorne on Saturday, Southbound Eastfield Lane near Dunninton is 0.4KM on the route sheet, it's actually 1.4Km  It's an auto-route error, minor one, nice to know the route is longer by 1K

Worried us because we were going , South, instructions are :

0.4, R, Local Traffic Only, 35.1, 341
0.4, L, Holly Tree lane,    35.5, 341  should read, 1.4,L,Holly Tree lane,36.5,342


 if you do S-N it's correct

0.2, R:T , Eastfield Lane, 53.1, 374
1.4, L    , A166 York.........

If this is the only error chapeau to the route sheet compilers  :)

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #1 on: 12 July, 2009, 08:28:09 pm »
It wasn't measured using Autoroute, it was measured with a bike computer in December in the cold and damp, on Fixed, it is likely to be a typing error. It is. On the version I submitted it was as you said it should be.

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #2 on: 12 July, 2009, 09:14:17 pm »
M.

So if you were on fixed you could have done the distance in pedal revs.

I used to ride with a blind stoker, she could work out how far we had gone by counting & knowing which gear we were in. she would compete against the cycle 'computer'

- (that, I have always thought is an oxymoron, - it's not really a computer in the accepted definition of one is it?, although I suppose you do program wheel size)

A.

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #3 on: 12 July, 2009, 10:03:54 pm »
M.

So if you were on fixed you could have done the distance in pedal revs.

I used to ride with a blind stoker, she could work out how far we had gone by counting & knowing which gear we were in. she would compete against the cycle 'computer'

- (that, I have always thought is an oxymoron, - it's not really a computer in the accepted definition of one is it?, although I suppose you do program wheel size)

A.

More configuration than programming though. My computer was checked against the distances given  for the 2005 part of the route sheet BTW. I guess I could have counted the revs of my pedals but trying to navigate by map, check distances and watch for traffic was enough for me. I had to stop at every junction to record the sign and distance on my Walkman, with winter gloves on I was not able to do it on the move

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #4 on: 13 July, 2009, 08:06:22 am »
I had to stop at every junction to record the sign and distance on my Walkman, with winter gloves on I was not able to do it on the move


That sounds like an interesting route sheet.

Track 1, "Never gonna give you up"
"We're no strangers to love" L out of control
"Never gonna say goodbye" SO @ X
"Dont tell me you're too blind to see" R@T
...

Of course, you'd have to be riding at a constant pace or things could go horribly wrong.
Almost as horribly wrong as listening to Rick Astley on a Walkman.


Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #5 on: 13 July, 2009, 08:59:36 am »
Blimey am I that transparent ? More like


"Wake me up before you go go" R out of control
"Wham Rap !(Enjoy what you do)" SO @ O
" A Different Corner" L @ T
"Club Tropicana " R into control (Coxwold)

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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #6 on: 13 July, 2009, 09:32:36 am »
Oh. I imagined lots of Leonard Cohen.  ;D
It is simpler than it looks.

yello

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #7 on: 13 July, 2009, 09:54:04 am »
Show me the way to go home,
I'm tired and I want to go to bed...

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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #8 on: 13 July, 2009, 10:05:25 am »
The long and winding road....
Why should anybody steal a watch when they can steal a bicycle?

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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #9 on: 13 July, 2009, 03:09:02 pm »
The long and winding road....

....That leads to my door....
Will never disappear
Ive seen that road before
It always leads me here
Leads me to your door


It the Wild and windy night bit I would be worried about in the next verse! :(
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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #10 on: 13 July, 2009, 06:52:51 pm »
I'm ALMOST* sure this is wrong:

Southbound:
...
5.4 WEST DEEPING, lane no sign 8.7 543
SO : X (A16) 8.7 543
3.1 L (SO) B1443 no sign 11.8 546
0.9 after level Xing, R (SO) lane Helpston 12.7 547

The Level Xing should be BEFORE* the L onto B1443. Based on Google satellite image anyway! Not that this will send many people astray, but I just wanted to get in on the act...

(are Level Xings in the Key?!?)


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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #11 on: 13 July, 2009, 08:38:14 pm »
Wrong - Oh no I have just laminated the sheets!

If there are changes (getting every instruction right on 1400km I consider virtually impossible) will these be released on the internet? If they were released, even as late as the Friday before, that would be OK with me to laminate. O:-)
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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #12 on: 14 July, 2009, 08:41:58 am »
I think this IS where they are released on the internet. :)

(I've printed mine out but not laminated yet.)

Actually certain things can write on laminates - crayons? pencils?[EDIT - and still be waterproof]
Maybe bring some stationary to reg'n!
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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #13 on: 14 July, 2009, 08:48:42 am »
I'm ALMOST* sure this is wrong:

I only checked this northbound.  After all, the southbound route sheet is a luxury as you only need to retrace from Dalkeith - except avoiding the "Wragby diversion" of course.  I think you are right and wonder if it should have read

Southbound:
...
5.4 WEST DEEPING, lane no sign 8.7 543
SO : X (A16) 8.7 543
3.1 L (SO) B1443 no sign (0.9 after level Xing) 11.8 546
R (SO) lane Helpston 12.7 547

Really Ancien

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #14 on: 14 July, 2009, 08:56:09 am »
I came up with a 1960s US civil rights route sheet joke in 2001. Left at Malcolm X. S.O. s.p. Stokely Carmichael. You had to be there, and sleep deprived, and talking to a 50 year old from South Carolina, and even then it's not funny in any conventional sense.

Damon.

Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #15 on: 14 July, 2009, 09:03:40 am »
I only checked this northbound.  After all, the southbound route sheet is a luxury as you only need to retrace from Dalkeith


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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #16 on: 14 July, 2009, 02:53:09 pm »
I'm ALMOST* sure this is wrong:

Southbound:
...
5.4 WEST DEEPING, lane no sign 8.7 543
SO : X (A16) 8.7 543
3.1 L (SO) B1443 no sign 11.8 546
0.9 after level Xing, R (SO) lane Helpston 12.7 547

The Level Xing should be BEFORE* the L onto B1443. Based on Google satellite image anyway! Not that this will send many people astray, but I just wanted to get in on the act...

(are Level Xings in the Key?!?)


(*These villages are in bold, so make sure you pass through them.)

This confused me a bit (lot - I eventually worked out which level xing and which road i wanted to take) when I was riding it southbound (which I did before i did northbound) because there are actually 3 level crossings in this area.

It is really obvious which way to go on the way north though and bearing in mind we will already have ridden it north before we come back south, I don't think it is a major problem.  Sorry, I can't actually remember whether the road we want is after xing 1 or 2 which are quite close together - it is defo not 3 though which is quite a bit further on.

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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #17 on: 14 July, 2009, 05:34:30 pm »
I think, just strike out the words "after level Xing," and the rest then works, after its own form of logic.
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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #18 on: 14 July, 2009, 06:07:15 pm »
I think, just strike out the words "after level Xing," and the rest then works, after its own form of logic.
Or simply replace:
3.1 L (SO) B1443 no sign 11.8 546
0.9 after level Xing, R (SO) lane Helpston 12.7 547

With:
L@T
1st R (SO)
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Re: Minor Route Sheet Error - Dunninton
« Reply #19 on: 15 July, 2009, 11:27:50 am »
Well yes but that's a different syntax.  And one that I personally much prefer.

The one this routesheet uses is identical to 2005 and 2001, where feedback was quite positive both times, so obviously no need to change it.  I have objected to it many years ago, on the grounds that it compels the rider to use a cyclecomputer (or GPS) and some people might prefer to ride without. 
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