Author Topic: East Sussex 24 hour 2011 (Read 14192 times)

Martin · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2010, 08:46:41 AM »

I know several ESCA and also Lewes Wanderers; will do

blackburnrod · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2010, 12:32:27 PM »

According to CTT rules you can claim your distance at the last check point reached.In theory for the Mersey 24 this will be at Prees Island first time,16 miles!.Several riders in the past have stopped as soon as they have reached the finishing circuit.Because the checkpoint times are fed into the computer you will automatically be given a distance at the last recorded check,but this will not appear on the result sheet unless you claim it to me (chief timekeeper) before the final (as opposed to provisional) result is published,usually about 10-14 days after the event.This delay is to take into account the investigations needed when riders claim to have been missed at a checkpoint due to obscured body number or failure to call their number.I hope this clarifies the issue.

Oranj · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2010, 01:21:23 PM »

Quote from: mattc on August 31, 2009, 06:39:33 PM

Interesting choice of dates - long enough before PBP, but a bit close to possible 600k quallies.

Also:
+ Plenty of daylight.
- South-east saturday night drivers...

+1 to all of those. I just did a rough trace of the route in Googlemaps, it looks a lot twistier and lanier than the Mersey 24 (A-road sections excepting), and quite tricky for a supporter who doesn't want to move much from one point (Mrs O ;-) ). It would be a good training ride for the Mersey and nice to support a new event, but we'll also likely have a PBP 600k qualifier to ride not long before then. Plenty of time for me to decide before then though.

Martin · « **Reply #28 on:** July 28, 2010, 03:31:16 PM »

course details here

Sussex 24 Hour - Course

not especially fast by the look of it and the night stage looks pretty good; don't like the finishing circuit, Boship RAB is unpleasant enough early on Sun am

I'm not ridng it as it's the week after Sweden, and also following some of the comments about the MR24 I just don't think it's for me

hippy · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2011, 01:27:54 PM »

How much faster would you say the Mersey Roads course would be?

I've had a look at the numerous circuits and trying to remember/navigate the Sussex course looks like it would be a problem for me. It was going to be my chosen 24 since it's closer to London.

Any idea how much climbing would be involved in the two 24hr courses?

Thanks

mattc · « **Reply #30 on:** January 06, 2011, 02:43:05 PM »

Copied from the other (wrong) thread:

Quote from: hippy on December 29, 2010, 02:57:53 PM

Sussex 24 Hour - Home Page

This (the Sussex 24) is the one I want to attempt.

I had a go at digesting the course description, but my head exploded. All I managed was:

This appears to be the main afternoon leg, with the shorter night circuit at the western end. The start (and intermediate turn?) is in upper Dicker, just W of Hailsham, and the

finish circuit is based around the Eastern end (Pevensey). This has some Dual sections, interesting after 24hrs, and you might finish your ride 12miles from the HQ.

(but I will gladly be corrected!)

A more complicated route than the Mersey (so harder to learn, but less dull).

Hippy: you shouldn't need to navigate (as such), I'd expect the course to be fully marshalled.

hippy · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2011, 08:52:31 AM »

I've got the CTT book and there doesn't appear to be any 12hrs before the East Sussex 24.
Does anyone know if there's any 12 hour events run that wouldn't be in the CTT handbook - club events and the like?

mattc · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2011, 09:16:02 AM »

2010 events appeared to be:

05/09/2010 KCA 12hr
22/08/2010 WCTTCA & LTTCA 12hr
22/08/2010 ECCA 12hr
15/08/2010 RTTC Championship 12HR
25/07/2010 Elmet CRC 12Hr
04/07/2010 WCA 12hr
04/07/2010 Icknield RC 12hr

... so probably not.

hippy · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2011, 09:38:43 AM »

Seems a bit silly (for a distance tt noob like me anyway). Thanks for the info.

hippy · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2011, 10:46:19 PM »

Trying to find out how bumpy this course is. Here's the output from bikeroutetoaster using mattc's google maps of the course:

mattc · « **Reply #35 on:** March 09, 2011, 09:37:48 AM »

I'm not sure how accurate my earlier post was ... !

However I've since done something similar with BikeHike, on the various loops. IIRC the climbing figure was around 700m/100km, so similar to one of the flatter Audaxes. Absolutely no steep stuff, but very undulating - probably quite nice to ride, in fact.

I'm pretty sure the Mersey course is flatter => faster. Against this is the Sussex event being the National Champs - if you only do this once it's nice to get a placing in a National

hippy · « **Reply #36 on:** March 09, 2011, 10:49:59 AM »

I figure the Mersey is faster but I'm now going to France in July so that's out as an option. Logistically (I have no car) the southern one is a better option for me anyway. It's just unfortunate there's no 12s to test my setup with beforehand.
It's going to be an interesting 'experiment' that's for sure!

mattc · « **Reply #37 on:** March 09, 2011, 11:04:00 AM »

So are you riding unsupported? In which case it will be almost exactly like an Audax, just with marshalls and frequent overtakes by riders with disc wheels!

So try the bike+luggage on a flattish 200/300k.

hippy · « **Reply #38 on:** March 09, 2011, 11:10:41 AM »

Quote from: mattc on March 09, 2011, 11:04:00 AM

So are you riding unsupported? In which case it will be almost exactly like an Audax, just with marshalls and frequent overtakes by riders with disc wheels!
So try the bike+luggage on a flattish 200/300k.

I hope not. I'm no audaxer. I get lost on 25mi courses.
This whole silly 24hr thing only started because I wanted to set a club record and Meurig smashed all of them except the 24hr, which was set by someone in the 90s. I thought I would have a crack at it. The more training I do the less likely getting anywhere near it seems. At the moment I just hope to finish riding the 24 hours without spending 8 hours crying in a ditch somewhere. If that's successful perhaps I will head up north for a record attempt.

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #39 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:17:48 PM »

I did the Mersey Roads 3 years ago and said "Never Again" to a '24' after 10 hours, 15 hours, and pretty much every minute of the rest of the ride and for 2 years afterwards. Only going for it this year as its closer to home.

Reckon that its about 1mph slower than the Mersey Roads - its not the amount of climbing but the number of little hills that break up the rhythm or tempt you to go into the red.

My training is going to be riding moderately hilly Audaxes on the race bike with tribars to overcome just that problem.

Martin · « **Reply #40 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:32:06 PM »

Quote from: mattc on January 06, 2011, 02:43:05 PM

Copied from the other (wrong) thread:

Quote from: hippy on December 29, 2010, 02:57:53 PM
Sussex 24 Hour - Home Page

This (the Sussex 24) is the one I want to attempt.
I had a go at digesting the course description, but my head exploded. All I managed was:

This appears to be the main afternoon leg, with the shorter night circuit at the western end. The start (and intermediate turn?) is in upper Dicker, just W of Hailsham, and the

finish circuit is based around the Eastern end (Pevensey). This has some Dual sections, interesting after 24hrs, and you might finish your ride 12miles from the HQ.

sorry but that finish circuit on a Sunday am is just stupid; the short bit of the DC A22 I use to get to Hailsham on an ECE is scary enough at 0800; after 20 hrs inthe saddle with the morning traffic is daft.

officianados of El Supermos events will recall trying to cross this road on the way to High and Over

Ian H · « **Reply #41 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:37:21 PM »

I shall be there supporting.

It must be v difficult finding suitable, quiet roads anywhere in the Southeast. Some people found the night lorries on the Mersey Roads unsettling, though I didn't mind them.

Martin · « **Reply #42 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:54:33 PM »

Quote from: Ian H on March 30, 2011, 01:37:21 PM

I shall be there supporting.

It must be v difficult finding suitable, quiet roads anywhere in the Southeast.

if by suitable you mean fast then yes I agree; there are plenty of quiet B road sections they could use though. I presume the CTT require a minimum distance that can be covered in 24h though to make it a credible event.

mattc · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:06:45 PM »

Quote from: Martin on March 30, 2011, 01:54:33 PM

Quote from: Ian H on March 30, 2011, 01:37:21 PM
I shall be there supporting.

It must be v difficult finding suitable, quiet roads anywhere in the Southeast.

if by suitable you mean fast then yes I agree; there are plenty of quiet B road sections they could use though. I presume the CTT require a minimum distance that can be covered in 24h though to make it a credible event.

There is no "minimum speed" for a course

There are plenty of shorter events on courses known as "sporting". (They're less popular than in other countries, but that's another story ... ) So AFAIK the 24h could be AAA-rated.

However, you need sensible junctions (so right turns are bad), and as few as possible for marshalling purposes. Also technical (i.e. windy, hazard-strewn) sections are unpopular - time spent not pedalling makes it less a test of fitness.

This is just hearsay - I don't know the CTT rulebook on this subject.

(what I do know is that the rules have been relaxed at some point regarding repetition - the Mersey route used to be something like 170 miles long, well into Wales etc)

Oranj · « **Reply #44 on:** April 05, 2011, 11:09:59 AM »

I'm out. Friends have decided to get married on the Saturday.

Looks like an interesting event though; I wonder whether there will be Mersey-24h-style feed stations for unsupported riders?

CrazyEnglishTriathlete · « **Reply #45 on:** April 26, 2011, 08:17:19 PM »

I tried out the proposed night section (according to the website) yesterday - the loop including Henfield, Partridge Green, and the Steyning Bypass. Its not as undulating as I first thought and there aren't too many potholes on the racing line - a couple of nasties just short of Ashurst. However, it is typical Sussex time trialling - the short hills are just enough to break up the rhythm. I reckon that the course will be about 20 miles slower than the Mersey Roads course.

The night section is only 17.1 miles long according to Google Maps and my cycle computer so we may expect some revisions.

As far as practice for Paris-Brest-Paris - I think riding a second 600 would be better. This course won't prepare you for the longer hills on PBP. But if you want to ride a 24 then its a lot closer for London & SE based riders than the Mersey Roads.

vorsprung · « **Reply #46 on:** April 28, 2011, 10:13:46 AM »

I might be doing this. Exeter club is putting at least one other rider in so there will be some kind of support. The guy doing it told me last night that there are currently only 8 entries

Fixedwheelnut · « **Reply #47 on:** May 05, 2011, 12:05:51 AM »

Quote from: Oranj on April 05, 2011, 11:09:59 AM

I'm out. Friends have decided to get married on the Saturday.

Looks like an interesting event though; I wonder whether there will be Mersey-24h-style feed stations for unsupported riders?

On last years 12 hour Esther moved stuff around the course so you could get to it on most loops I gave her a water butt and bag of food to place for me, I presume the 24 will be the same.

mattc · « **Reply #48 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:11:22 AM »

Quote from: Ian H on March 30, 2011, 01:37:21 PM

I shall be there supporting.

Are you supporting a rider, Ian, or "helping" generally?

I was thinking of travelling/riding down to help/marshall/wotever, as this fits between long Audaxes etc.

Anyone fancy either:
- riding down from Oxfordshire area, and/or
- meeting up and forming an informal "YACF Marshalling sub-team",
- yelling at Vorsprung every lap?

I should be able to source local "couch-surfing" opportunities. I think riding down, then manning a night-shift, then riding home would be mentally tough!

This is obviously a bit vague, so ideas welcome ...

Matt (still hoping to ride the Mersey)

perpetual dan · « **Reply #49 on:** May 16, 2011, 10:17:51 PM »

We're moving house at a yet to be specified date this summer, so I'm not committing to much at the moment, but I could be interested in meeting and shouting at least.