Mille Cymru-based day rides 2011

[JohnHamilton]

Split from Mille Cymru thread by mods, as suggested

- The whole 232k leg 3 route. I asked John at the finish to run it as a stand alone 200 it was so good.

One of my ideas for next year is to run a weekend of events from Llanwrtyd based on the individual legs of the MC1K. (Seems a shame to not make use of all the work I've put in this year). Easter weekend would be good - 300k using Day 2 and 200k using Day 3 as PBP qualifiers. Interestingly it looks like the 400k window opens that weekend so could also make a 400k out of Day 1/4 as well.

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

[cyclone]

I'm sure they would as long as its not a typical Welsh spring! Will have to pm you regarding possible clash of events later (cambrian 200) around that time...

[Manotea]

- The whole 232k leg 3 route. I asked John at the finish to run it as a stand alone 200 it was so good.

One of my ideas for next year is to run a weekend of events from Llanwrtyd based on the individual legs of the MC1K. (Seems a shame to not make use of all the work I've put in this year). Easter weekend would be good - 300k using Day 2 and 200k using Day 3 as PBP qualifiers. Interestingly it looks like the 400k window opens that weekend so could also make a 400k out of Day 1/4 as well.

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

After the MC1K, You'll need to find a big stick to beat off all the wannabees  - me included - and the MC1K riders will want to showoff their jerseys!

[Hot Flatus]

I'd definitely ride Friday and Sunday again as stand-alone events, as they were utterly and completely brilliant.  I liked the return from st David's on Saturday, especially that ridiculous climb up to the radio masts,  but wasn't so keen on the bit before, especially the stretch alongside the a40 and crossing the toll bridge. Not complaining, as it was all within the context of the best cycling in the UK.

[Von Broad]

- The whole 232k leg 3 route. I asked John at the finish to run it as a stand alone 200 it was so good.

One of my ideas for next year is to run a weekend of events from Llanwrtyd based on the individual legs of the MC1K. (Seems a shame to not make use of all the work I've put in this year). Easter weekend would be good - 300k using Day 2 and 200k using Day 3 as PBP qualifiers. Interestingly it looks like the 400k window opens that weekend so could also make a 400k out of Day 1/4 as well.

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

If they were offered as PBP qualifiers, knocking out a 300 and 400 in the same long weekend, might be attractive to people limited on the number of weekends they can get away. But even if people aren't pushed for time the idea of doing a PBP qualifying weekend regardless could well be attractive.

Wouldn't it?

edit: Why not just offer the whole thing [200km, 300km, 400km & 600km] in one long weekend and get it over and done with 

[thing1]

If they were offered as PBP qualifiers, knocking out a 300 and 400 in the same long weekend, might be attractive to people limited on the number of weekends they can get away. But even if people aren't pushed for time the idea of doing a PBP qualifying weekend regardless could well be attractive.

Wouldn't it?

edit: Why not just offer the whole thing [200km, 300km, 400km & 600km] in one long weekend and get it over and done with  

I thought the qualifying windows were specifically setup to stop qualifier camps? It seems AUK have license to bend the ACP recommendations in this to some degree, but if they start offering a qualifier weekend (EDIT: as in, full SR in a long weekend), I'd imagine Feathers might be Ruffled(?)

[Tewdric]

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

Yes.

[citoyen]

I thought the qualifying windows were specifically setup to stop qualifier camps?

ISTR reading elsewhere in the forum that the dates are "advisory" and only the closing date is binding.

d.

[teethgrinder]

- The whole 232k leg 3 route. I asked John at the finish to run it as a stand alone 200 it was so good.

One of my ideas for next year is to run a weekend of events from Llanwrtyd based on the individual legs of the MC1K. (Seems a shame to not make use of all the work I've put in this year). Easter weekend would be good - 300k using Day 2 and 200k using Day 3 as PBP qualifiers. Interestingly it looks like the 400k window opens that weekend so could also make a 400k out of Day 1/4 as well.

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

A 300 and 400k Easter weekend as PBP qualifiers with the best routes AUK has probably seen in a long time would be very worthwhile.
I'd definitely do a 300 and 400 and would consider a 300 and 200, depending on what else was going on.

[Maverick]

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

  I'm up for that

[miniog]

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

It's not a long way from Swansea. I'd be up for it

[Tewdric]

A 200 and 300 package to preface the Brevet Cymru and Bryan Chapman Memorial would be very well received here!

[mattc]

I'd definitely ride Friday and Sunday again as stand-alone events, as they were utterly and completely brilliant.  I liked the return from st David's on Saturday, especially that ridiculous climb up to the radio masts,  but wasn't so keen on the bit before, especially the stretch alongside the a40 and crossing the toll bridge. Not complaining, as it was all within the context of the best cycling in the UK.

2nd-ed.

However, I'd be reluctant to ride them as PBP quallys, because I struggled in July; getting round in April/May might be too much

Faster riders might jump at this!

The BCM is a good ride to delude you into thinking Welsh hills are easy.

oooh you are awful Simon!

[wilbt]

- The whole 232k leg 3 route. I asked John at the finish to run it as a stand alone 200 it was so good.

One of my ideas for next year is to run a weekend of events from Llanwrtyd based on the individual legs of the MC1K. (Seems a shame to not make use of all the work I've put in this year). Easter weekend would be good - 300k using Day 2 and 200k using Day 3 as PBP qualifiers. Interestingly it looks like the 400k window opens that weekend so could also make a 400k out of Day 1/4 as well.

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

May I suggest a Brevet week,  something like this,  start with a 200K on Saturday, followed by a 400K on Sunday/Monday, Tues 300K, Thurs 600K.
Then you have a Brevet PBP qualifying week which is also a holiday.  People choose whether to do all the rides or just some of them.  Theres enough time between for socialising in the town.

[mattc]

I thought the qualifying windows were specifically setup to stop qualifier camps?

ISTR reading elsewhere in the forum that the dates are "advisory" and only the closing date is binding.

I believe that AUK has chosen* to go with the 'staggered' approach which effectively rules out a 2/3/4/6 'camp'. But as John has observed, there's still an overlap between some distances, so you could easily put on two quallys over a weekend.

*Or has in previous years. I don't know the legal niceties of how this is implemented, but the intention seems pretty clear.

[MattH]

I'm not sure what the reason is for wanting to avoid the "camp" approach for qualifiers, but frankly if somebody did a 2/3/4/6 series in a week in Wales I think they should find PBP a walkover.

[Weirdy Biker]

Shouldn't this discussion about PBP camps be in the PBP thread?

UNDulates wasn't suggesting running a camp, just rides on consecutive days.

[thing1]

I think the reason is, there's a long time from April to August, and people who go all out to qualify in a week to get it all out they way may not be the sort to be inclined to keep the necessary miles to maintain fitness. (We all suffer due to bad behaviour of a minority etc etc)
Agree a week in wales is not exactly 'doing it the easy way', but then it comes down to where do you draw the line? Ah, perhaps: qualifier weeks that also result in an AAASR are OK! 

Just noticed, this is getting really OT for this thread. Oh, so has FY. Is it best form if the mods split this out?
Oh and in reply to FY; yes, it was some others that were suggesting / requesting a qualifier weekend, not UNDulates

[mattc]

Shouldn't this discussion about PBP camps be in the PBP thread?

UNDulates wasn't suggesting running a camp, just rides on consecutive days.

True, but in 2011 there will be a large increase in entries due to PBP qualification and training. No doubt John will take this into account.

[αdαmsκι]

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

Getting to Llanwrtyd wouldn't put me off because everyone has said the rides are that good. It's even got a train station.

While it's nice to ride a 200 in lovely scenery, there are plenty of 200s on offer and so I'd be more interested in a boot camp offering a 300 and 400.


Edit: By replying to this thread I guess I'm admitting to myself that I'll be doing PBP....

[Manotea]

Question is, Llanwrtyd's a long way from anywhere so would enough folk trek out there for a weekend of rides?

Getting to Llanwrtyd wouldn't put me off because everyone has said the rides are that good. It's even got a train station.

While it's nice to ride a 200 in lovely scenery, there are plenty of 200s on offer and so I'd be more interested in a boot camp offering a 300 and 400.


Edit: By replying to this thread I guess I'm admitting to myself that I'll be doing PBP....

One could always ride there from Shrewsbury.

[αdαmsκι]

via Llanberis?

[AndyH]

The reports have been so good that I would love to come and ride some of the days of the MC1K, whatever the format.

I would feel a bit guilty that I haven't entered any of the upcoming Gladestry (Tregaron Dragon etc) events, however ....

[citoyen]

Getting to Llanwrtyd wouldn't put me off because everyone has said the rides are that good. It's even got a train station.

+1. And it's a direct service from Paddington. Hmm...

While it's nice to ride a 200 in lovely scenery, there are plenty of 200s on offer and so I'd be more interested in a boot camp offering a 300 and 400.

Not sure about a 300 and a 400 in the same weekend (purely from a time point of view) but I reckon I could contemplate a 200 and a 300. There are plenty of 200s on offer, true, but I've done all my local ones so I wouldn't mind a change of scenery at all.

Far too early to commit myself to anything, though. Especially PBP.

d.

[Euan Uzami]

i'd probably do at least one of them