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Woodrups - for Clarion
« on: 04 July, 2011, 11:01:28 am »
It is fairly reasonable to suppose that Woodrups, based in Leeds is a traditional no nonsense yorkshire frame builders. Well, when looking around for various options for an ultimate low maintenance commuter for the autumn/winter, looked up rohloff/gates belt drive frames and lo and behold, Woodrups offers a frame for belt drives.

Best of all, they have called it the Chimera model, sly understated humour somewhere perhaps...?

Frere

clarion

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #1 on: 04 July, 2011, 11:04:51 am »
I have touched one ;D

They were at York Rally.  I've never seen them there before.  They had some magnificent frames, but the Chimera was getting most attention, not least because it's so unlike their normal sort of bike.

Looks like a clever idea.  Not sure it's for me.  I wish they'd built it for drops, for one.  But a smart prototype.
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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #2 on: 04 July, 2011, 09:57:15 pm »
Woodrups were always a bit more dynamic & exciting than BobJs.  Very nice bikes and very sensible people.

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #3 on: 04 July, 2011, 10:07:26 pm »
Very nice bikes and very sensible people.

They've done nothing but ignore my emails to them about my Woodrup. I suppose some people might consider ignoring me to be sensible  :P
Those wonderful norks are never far from my thoughts, oh yeah!

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #4 on: 04 July, 2011, 10:11:02 pm »
Well, you are a southerner ;)

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #5 on: 04 July, 2011, 10:12:38 pm »
Very nice bikes and very sensible people.

They've done nothing but ignore my emails to them about my Woodrup. I suppose some people might consider ignoring me to be sensible  :P
Ignoring email is pretty much SOP nowadays - the spammers have pretty much killed its usefulness as a means of communication.

I keep meaning to pay the Woodrup shop a visit - it's only a stone's-throw from SWMBO's house so it'd be rude not to ;) Unfortunately, Bob Jackson's shop is even closer (not been in there either - always appears to be shut when I pass)

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #6 on: 05 July, 2011, 10:38:35 am »
There's nothing remarkable about the shop, it doesn't even (usually) have example of their frames on display.

However if I were in the market for a custom bike, Woodrups would be one of the places I'd talk to.
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clarion

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #7 on: 05 July, 2011, 11:07:09 am »
Well, they do have a couple of their own frames hanging up usually.  But not easy to see.  Not actually 'on display', you might say.
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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #8 on: 16 July, 2011, 07:08:47 pm »
Very nice bikes and very sensible people.

They've done nothing but ignore my emails to them about my Woodrup. I suppose some people might consider ignoring me to be sensible  :P

You could always ring them.  :thumbsup:

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #9 on: 16 July, 2011, 07:11:08 pm »
It is fairly reasonable to suppose that Woodrups, based in Leeds is a traditional no nonsense yorkshire frame builders. Well, when looking around for various options for an ultimate low maintenance commuter for the autumn/winter, looked up rohloff/gates belt drive frames and lo and behold, Woodrups offers a frame for belt drives.

Best of all, they have called it the Chimera model, sly understated humour somewhere perhaps...?

Frere

I'm a regular customer at Woodrups and several months ago I was escorted upstairs into the inner sanctum where I saw the prototype without paint and a most of its fittings.  Even so it looked very nice and had my mind racing on how to go about getting the cash together for an acquisition.

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #10 on: 16 July, 2011, 07:21:29 pm »
Well, they do have a couple of their own frames hanging up usually.  But not easy to see.  Not actually 'on display', you might say.

I called into Woodrups today. They now have the belt drive bike on prominent display and a couple of hand built Woodrups frames in the arch way in the half of the shop that's furthest away from the till.  The flagship fram is called the Maurice Woodrup with hand cut lugs and some nice stainless steel detailing like the head badge and cable rubbing strips to save the paint work.

I've been offered a test ride of the belt drive bike and I'll be taking up the offer really soon.

YahudaMoon

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #11 on: 16 July, 2011, 07:23:12 pm »
A review on Woodrups can be seen in Arrivee No# 104 Spring 2009 edition, page 44.


Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #12 on: 17 July, 2011, 09:52:41 am »
Well, they do have a couple of their own frames hanging up usually.  But not easy to see.  Not actually 'on display', you might say.

I called into Woodrups today. They now have the belt drive bike on prominent display and a couple of hand built Woodrups frames in the arch way in the half of the shop that's furthest away from the till.  The flagship fram is called the Maurice Woodrup with hand cut lugs and some nice stainless steel detailing like the head badge and cable rubbing strips to save the paint work.

I've been offered a test ride of the belt drive bike and I'll be taking up the offer really soon.

Ooh, please give us a report when you do - am sure there are plenty folks curious/interested in the Chimera.

Frere

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #13 on: 25 January, 2012, 08:11:00 pm »
Well, they do have a couple of their own frames hanging up usually.  But not easy to see.  Not actually 'on display', you might say.

I called into Woodrups today. They now have the belt drive bike on prominent display and a couple of hand built Woodrups frames in the arch way in the half of the shop that's furthest away from the till.  The flagship fram is called the Maurice Woodrup with hand cut lugs and some nice stainless steel detailing like the head badge and cable rubbing strips to save the paint work.

I've been offered a test ride of the belt drive bike and I'll be taking up the offer really soon.

Ooh, please give us a report when you do - am sure there are plenty folks curious/interested in the Chimera.

Frere

A bit late but there again I am not a frequent visitor to YACF...

I was lent the Chimera for a weekend test ride in the first weekend of October which surprised me as when I called in the shop to arrange a test ride I was expecting them to lend it to me for a ten mile or so ride.

I was sceptical about the claims about Rohlhoff hubs by evangelical owners and my first surprise was how light the bike was when I lifted it to put it into my car.  My intentions were to pedal it up to Darlington from Leeds on Saturday before catching a train back to do a 100km Audax on the Sunday.  Tony Woodrup was keen for me to put the miles on it as he wanted feedback about the ride quality and the perceptions of a rider who enjoys touring.

My ride to Darlington was uneventful mostly.  I explored the gear range of the Rohloff hub and found the gear range to be fine and I found myself changing gears more frequently than I did with derailleur bike possibly because of the evenly stepped ratios and there being no need to make do with a derailleur gear for longer than is wanted because the next gear up/down isn't quite right.  As widely reported, the lower gears are noisy but the silence of the hub in gears eight and upwards was unsettling at first but became a pleasure.

The 26" wheels and fattish tyres didn't appear to offer too much rolling resistance and when in the higher gears, the silence of the hub and belt drive meant that the tyre/road interface was the only source of noise coming from the bike.  The handling was very stable and the the ride was very comfortable.  The pleasure of being able to change gear while stationary made itself felt in Northallerton where I got caught up in heavy traffic and an Orange Order parade.  It was a strange experience seeing Orange Order marching bands marching out of season in a North Yorkshire market town but it turns out that Northallerton has the largest Orange Order Lodge in England.  What a surprise!

Back to the bike.  I didn't really get to test the lower gears until reaching Croft and the short climb into Hurworth on Tees.  The silence of the bike was shattered by the whirring of the hub but the pedalling was effortless.  The top gears are a bit low but I don't have any quibble with that as I enjoy coasting downhill rather than pedalling and am not too fussed about 'pedalling out' at a lower speed than I would do on a road/audax bike.

The Sunday ride didn't happen.  I woke up feverish which was the opening shots of a staph infection which developed into cellulitis in my lower left leg and I was too unwell to ride.  I returned the bike reluctantly to Woodrup Cycles on the Monday having resolved to purchase one when the financial circumstances were right - there was an off chance that I could wangle a lenient deal from the Cycle to Work scheme arrange by my school heavily supplemented by me.  It was not to be - the administrator crush all aspirations to a 'deal' with a pre-emptive draconian email which threatened all sorts of repercussions including the seizure of any bike purchased under the scheme at the end of the scheme which resulted in all but one potential participants deciding to not bother but I digress...

In December I came into tidy sum of money, enought to buy the frame and I was offered an interest free - OK there's a 3% charge on a cash advance from my credit card over a year so I trooped into Woodrup Cycles and placed an order.  The frame is now complete and the wheel components have been ordered to be built while the frame is at the painters.

My bike will have braze ons to: guide the dynamo cabling up the fork legs and along the cross bar to the lights, accommodate three bottle holders, a set of spoke holders for rear wheel spoke only.

It will be ready towards the end of February and I'm ready and willing to get some miles in on it.  ;D

Here is a picture of my frame being built:




A studio shot of the Chimera prototype:


clarion

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #14 on: 25 January, 2012, 09:01:39 pm »
Dirty filth! :thumbsup:
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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #15 on: 25 January, 2012, 09:39:29 pm »
Chimera

Dare I ask how much?

Some day I might get a touring bike.

MalRees

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #16 on: 25 January, 2012, 11:04:08 pm »
I am itching for a Chimera..... Mr Sayles is a master frame builder, the likes of which are so rare nowadays.

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #17 on: 25 January, 2012, 11:16:42 pm »
It's difficult to be precise as there's so many variables in terms of:

Frame tubing e.g. 725, 853, Columbus
Bottom bracket Hope vs Shimano vs summat else
Headset Chris King vs Hope vs Campag vs Shimano
Chainset
Rims
Braze ons
Tyres
Finishing kit

It's possible to spend £4000+ and £3,000-

Mine lies somewhere in between the two values but it does have some non standard features added by Woodrups gratis as a thank you for the money that I've spent with them over the past eight years.

Here's a couple of specs that were presented to me to open the discussions for what I wanted

Premium build.

FRAME           Woodrup Chimera BD Reynolds 853
HUBS           Shimano DH-3N80 (Nexus) dyno Hub/ Rohloff ex box rear w gates conversion
BRAKES           Shimano XT levers and V brake callipers
GEAR SHIFTER   with hub
HEADSET           Chris King
Bottom Bracket   Upgraded Hope (price of Shimano removed)
CHAIN SET/BB   Shimano Alfine
Chain           Gates Belt/chain ring/rear sprocket/snubber
TYRES           Specialized nimbus armodillo 26 x 1.5
TUBES           Specialized
Rim tapes           Velox
RIMS                   Mavic XM 719 36h
spokes           DT swiss
BARS/GRIPS   Easton EA70 XC bars  ergon gc 3 grips
STEM                   Easton Ea 70 Size TBC
SEAT POST   Easton EA 70 27.2 mm
SADDLE           Brooks B17
PEDALS         TBC
GUARDS/RACK   SKS mudguards  tortec pannier rack
Extras          Dynomo head light?




VS

Quality build

FRAME          Woodrup Chimera Reynolds 725 Colour TBC
HUBS           Shimano GH-3N72 Dynomo hub/Rohloff ex box rear w gates conversion
BRAKES           Shimano acera levers and V brake callipers
GEAR SHIFTER   with hub
HEADSET            hope
Bottom Bracket   Shimano supplyed with chain set
CHAIN SET/BB   Shimano Alfine
chain   Gates Belt/chain ring/rear sprocket/snubber
TYRES            Specialized nimbus 26 x 1.5
TUBES            specialized
Rim tapes            Velox
RIMS   mavic         XM 317
spokes            DT swiss
BARS/GRIPS    Alloy bars   ergon gc 3 grips
STEM                    BBB
SEAT POST    Alloy black 27.2 mm
SADDLE            Brooks B17
PEDALS           TBC
GUARDS/RACK   SKS mudguards  tortec pannier rack
Extras             Dynomo head light?


The top spec is more or less what I've gone for and the bottom spec is around £500 cheaper.

Neither spec has the S&S couplings which would add £600 to the cost.

Tony Woodrup would be more than happy to prepare a spec and quote for you.

I suspect that this might be the final bike that I purchase as I don't think that I can get anything better other than another Chimera with S&S couplings ....

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #18 on: 25 January, 2012, 11:25:08 pm »
I am itching for a Chimera..... Mr Sayles is a master frame builder, the likes of which are so rare nowadays.

I was itching for a Chimera from the moment I first set eyes on the prototype's frame in March/April last year.

Kevin Sayles is an all round nice guy.  His craftsmanship is stunning.  It's worth having a look at these pictures for a quick fix of bike porn...

http://flickeflu.com/photos/33970339@N03


Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #19 on: 25 January, 2012, 11:52:46 pm »
Thanks for all the info. Well beyond my current means but maybe in a year or two.

Do post pics and a review when the time comes!

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #20 on: 01 March, 2012, 10:39:10 pm »
Thanks for all the info. Well beyond my current means but maybe in a year or two.

Do post pics and a review when the time comes!

I pick up the bike this Saturday all being well.








clarion

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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #21 on: 02 March, 2012, 11:51:45 am »
Dirty filth!
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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #22 on: 02 March, 2012, 12:08:10 pm »
Total smut...
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Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #23 on: 02 March, 2012, 06:16:15 pm »
And now that I have it at home I'm having dirty feelings.

John Henry

Re: Woodrups - for Clarion
« Reply #24 on: 04 March, 2012, 10:16:52 am »
Yes, that is, indeed, filth. As are one or two others on their website... I like the look of the Rohloff Tour.

I rented a house off the Kirkstall Rd during my second year at Leeds. Woodrups were more or less opposite the end of the road. I wasn't so much into cycling back then, and never appreciated them - I thought they were just another standard LBS.