Author Topic: The East Anglian thread (Read 31778 times)

Oscar's dad · « **on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:27:08 pm »

I have what must be an annoying habit of hijacking the Mid-Essex Mid Week Nocturnal Series thread when I wish to communicate with the mid-Essex and greater East Anglian members just because I know they all tend to hang out there. This should stop so I have started this thread in the hope that it will become a depository of all things East Anglian that don't warrant a thread of their own. I hope it will prove to be useful.

I have placed the thread on this board as it is likely to be loosely ~~drinking~~ ride related.

Wowbagger · « **Reply #1 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:27:57 pm »

Can you give us a definition of "East Anglia"?

Oscar's dad · « **Reply #2 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:30:55 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 19 February, 2012, 07:27:57 pm

Can you give us a definition of "East Anglia"?

I'm not sure I should, I'd hate anyone to feel excluded!

Chris S · « **Reply #3 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:32:34 pm »

It's just one step away from Regional Boards - a la LFGSS...

Excellent idea

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Question: Generally, East Anglians aren't allowed to use the words "Hill", "Hilly", "Grimp" or "Right old Grind"¹ when it comes to rides in their area. Are such prejudices not an issue within this thread/group?

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¹ Erm... the long gradual gradient variety.

Oscar's dad · « **Reply #4 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:34:57 pm »

Quote from: Chris S on 19 February, 2012, 07:32:34 pm

It's just one step away from Regional Boards - a la LFGSS...

Excellent idea .

Question: Generally, East Anglians aren't allowed to use the words "Hill", "Hilly", "Grimp" or "Right old Grind"¹ when it comes to rides in their area. Are such prejudices not an issue within this thread/group?

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¹ Erm... the long gradual gradient variety.

Given there maybe a lot of talk of The Mighty North Hill I don't think such prejudices will be tolerated

RogerT · « **Reply #5 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:36:35 pm »

Can we mention the Col Du Haddenham, Grimped up it this afternoon

Oscar's dad · « **Reply #6 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:44:21 pm »

Quote from: RogerT on 19 February, 2012, 07:36:35 pm

Can we mention the Col Du Haddenham, Grimped up it this afternoon

If this thread achieves nothing except to promote the hills of East Anglia I shall consider my time on this earth to have been worthwhile

Wowbagger · « **Reply #7 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:48:48 pm »

I feel a ridiculous idea coming on.

You know how there are people who go "Munro-bagging", a Munro* being a >3000' Scottish peak (I believe there are 287 of them).

We need to plot all the hills of East Anglia where a road climbs over, say, 250' (we could call them "Wows"), list them on this site and then set off "Wow-bagging".

There could be a prize for the most successful Wow-bagger of the year.

*People also refer to Welsh and English Munros. I believe there are 15 in Wales and 6 (or is it 4?) in England.

Adam · « **Reply #8 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:49:56 pm »

Although is there anything as high as 250'?

Chris S · « **Reply #9 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:51:02 pm »

LOL- excellent.

(Starts plotting routes)

Wowbagger · « **Reply #10 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:52:50 pm »

Essex and Suffolk both have "County Tops" in excess of 400'. Not sure about Norfolk.

Anyone who has been on the Mildenhall WARTY has already bagged a Wow: Rede Hill is over 400'.

TMNH is about 350'.

Langdon Hills (Westleigh Heights) is 385'.

Stock and Wickham Bishops are both about 300'.

Most of Essex NW of Saffron Walden is over 400' and therefore Alpine.

Chris S · « **Reply #11 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:54:33 pm »

Quote from: Adam on 19 February, 2012, 07:49:56 pm

Although is there anything as high as 250'?

Great Chishill, Cambridgeshire - 479'

Oscar's dad · « **Reply #12 on:** 19 February, 2012, 07:57:02 pm »

What are you doing on Saturday 24th March? That nice man Huggy and I are planning a 200k ride based on the SEG75 route. I think Huggy is hoping to ride it as a proper DIY so the pace will be audaxy. Feel free to tag along. No doubt the plan will firm up nearer the time.

NB: forward planning is allowed in this thread

Wowbagger · « **Reply #13 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:04:37 pm »

I suppose we could adapt the "Marylyn" rule for Wows as well (a Marilyn is a stand-alone hill where it's more than 150 metres higher than the surrounding countryside).

We'd need to distinguish between hills where two peaks were both over 250' but you could cycle from one to another without dropping below 200'. I don't think you should be allowed to bag two Wows without adequate descent and climb.

Edit: http://www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?lnk=http://peter.chesspod.com/routes/billericay-bardfield.gpx is the old SEG75 route. The elevation data shows 9 Wows bagged: 9 peaks above 250' with troughs between them of <200'. Now, we would need to allow for the fact that it's a figure-of-8 route with about 2 miles of duplication. Would that really be 9 Wows or only 5? (Billericay, the starting point, is already above 250').

Wowbagger · « **Reply #14 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:16:22 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_counties_by_highest_point shows the County Tops.

To my surprise, Langdon Hills is/are counted at Thurrock and is therefore a separate county (unitary authority). 115 metres.

Norfolk's county top is 103 metres.

Perhaps we should have a separate designation for roads that venture above 300'?

RogerT · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:20:41 pm »

Er Hum, cough, at risk of being controversial, can we really include Essex as being a true part of East Anglia ??..

Wowbagger · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:25:17 pm »

I refer the Hon. Memb. to my Right Hon Friend's reply.

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=56930.msg1167644#msg1167644

Chris S · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:28:29 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 19 February, 2012, 08:16:22 pm

Norfolk's county top is 103 metres.

Corresponds well to this: Clickity

There are a couple of points that come close to 100' (Pigg's Grave, near Melton Constable, and Bradenham Hill).

Canardly · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:28:49 pm »

Parts of Hertfordshire have lumps.

RogerT · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:30:32 pm »

Indeed, and I would have no wish to create any sort of exclusion zone, in particular for such august and learned persons who have the ~~misfortune~~ honour of residing south of Suffolk.

Wowbagger · « **Reply #20 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:35:09 pm »

Including Herts & Beds makes it the East of England, allegedly. Both are very much higher than the rest of the E of E.

L CC · « **Reply #21 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:43:50 pm »

Quote from: Oscar's dad on 19 February, 2012, 07:57:02 pm

What are you doing on Saturday 24th March?

Dirty weekend from Oxford: Clicky

Want Hills: Will Travel.

Chris S · « **Reply #22 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:48:41 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 19 February, 2012, 08:35:09 pm

Including Herts & Beds makes it the East of England, allegedly. Both are very much higher than the rest of the E of E.

I agree. The Kingdom of the East Angles was basically Norfolk, Suffolk and a bit of the Fens.

L CC · « **Reply #23 on:** 19 February, 2012, 08:54:45 pm »

Which excludes the Essex-ians. $:-\$
For the purposes of this thread, if you think you're East Anglian, you probably are. Even if only by location...

Adam · « **Reply #24 on:** 19 February, 2012, 09:27:21 pm »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 19 February, 2012, 08:35:09 pm

Including Herts & Beds makes it the East of England, allegedly. Both are very much higher than the rest of the E of E.

The East Anglian Air Ambulance service covers Bedfordshire, therefore I'm an East Anglian.