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Security on LEL
« on: July 10, 2012, 01:12:45 PM »
What measures do people normally employ for LEL or similar to ensure that stuff/bikes doesn't sprout legs and walk away?

Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 01:16:18 PM »
Usually I just rely on someone keeping an eye on them if stopped at a proper control.

And carry a lightweight lock if planning to stop elsewhere. Anything worthwile is probably too heavy, so just something to stop the opportunist.

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2012, 01:56:52 PM »

Usually I just rely on someone keeping an eye on them if stopped at a proper control.

And carry a lightweight lock if planning to stop elsewhere. Anything worthwile is probably too heavy, so just something to stop the oppurtunist.



At Thorne in 2009  ( Rugby Club clubhouse ) there was virtually always someone outside either tasking,resting in the fresh air or specifically on bike watch.

I was suprised at the number of bikes not locked up

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2012, 01:58:07 PM »
You can also usually rely on someone else having a more nickable bike than yours.
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2012, 04:01:46 PM »
You can also usually rely on someone else having a more nickable bike than yours.

If only I could rely on that....  I live in Switzerland where theft is less of an issue than where I used to live while in the UK...near Chatham, Kent if anyone knows it  :-\ so my bike is slightly above average quality...

I'll probably end up using a lightweight coil type lock.

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2012, 04:11:11 PM »
Once you are out of the South East, and especially outside of cities, bike theft is far less common anyway IME.

I usually carry a cheap cable lock with me on audaxes, but don't always use it.
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2012, 04:35:19 PM »
I'll suggest rooftop snipers and armed security guards at controls to the organiser, but if his budget doesn't run to that, you could carry a lightweight lock.

Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2012, 04:38:33 PM »
I'll probably end up using a lightweight coil type lock.
I must get one of these mythical devices. For the easter arrow, I took my usual 1.7Kg lock. Plus 2kg of 'bonk' rations, 2l of water and n Kg of stuff I didn't need. Noob panic on first audax, you see.
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2012, 06:07:38 PM »
I'll suggest rooftop snipers and armed security guards at controls to the organiser, but if his budget doesn't run to that, you could carry a lightweight lock.
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 06:11:47 PM »
Ride a Brompton. Fold it up, and take it inside with you  :thumbsup:.
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 06:35:41 PM »
I'll suggest rooftop snipers and armed security guards at controls to the organiser,

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2012, 09:52:17 PM »
I usually conceal my steed under the grime of passage.  But then my yellow Roberts would be unrideable by people of normal shape.   :smug:
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 08:08:03 PM »
For the smallest lightest this probably fits the bill http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_13&products_id=110193 or you could  pay a very little bit more for the Abus version http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/abus-combiflex-201-retractable-16-mm-steel-cable-lock-70-cm-prod17333/ (note that these are both only 70cm long)

Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 09:45:04 PM »
I seem to recall something similar to these cable locks in my local LidL yesterday (I think they were about a fiver, but couldn't stop to look as I was getting earache from she who must be obeyed; apparently I was 'dawdling along' ::-))

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2012, 11:06:50 AM »
I seem to recall something similar to these cable locks in my local LidL yesterday (I think they were about a fiver, but couldn't stop to look as I was getting earache from she who must be obeyed; apparently I was 'dawdling along' ::-))

I had a Lidl one a few years back ....  One day after a cafe stop it just decided not to open any more, fortunately I was carrying a multi-tool that seemd to have most of the swiss army knife features including a saw blade about 1-1/2" long.   Took about 10 seconds to got through the cable !

I usually take one of these on audaxes....which might take longer to saw through, and might even resist side-cutters for a while, but still wouldnt last any time at all against bolt croppers.  http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/LOCPY6-60-BLK/sagisaka_y_6_japanese_cable_lock___60cm___black

Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 07:42:25 PM »
I usually carry a Kryptonite Evolution Mini. It's not particularly light, but if I'm leaving my bike in a town whilst I nip into a shop - especially if I'm on my own - then I want it to be there when I get back. As I carry a big saddlebag anyway, it's minimal extra space/weight.

Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2012, 08:48:52 PM »
i didn't know what lock to take on lel either (audax noob). so took a heavy abus lock to be on the safe side. of course i didn't use it, and after carrying it for few hundred kms left at one of controls, hoping that hills will be easier to climb (they weren't). i'd probably take a small cable lock now, in case i had to leave my bike unattended in a populated area.

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2012, 01:04:02 AM »
At least one bicycle was stolen before the start of LEL2009.

Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2012, 06:42:50 PM »
For the smallest lightest this probably fits the bill http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_13&products_id=110193 or you could  pay a very little bit more for the Abus version http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/abus-combiflex-201-retractable-16-mm-steel-cable-lock-70-cm-prod17333/ (note that these are both only 70cm long)

B & Q sell a "Masterlock" version of these for £5.99.
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2012, 01:12:19 AM »
On a slightly related matter I've noticed that since my move to France i outgun everybody in the lock department!

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2012, 11:27:59 AM »
On a slightly related matter I've noticed that since my move to France i outgun everybody in the lock department!

It's never a good idea to be the easy target! :)
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 04:39:36 PM »
On a slightly related matter I've noticed that since my move to France i outgun everybody in the lock department!

Toothgrimper nearly had his bike stolen from under his nose in Paris a few years ago. Bikes locked up outside a restaurant in Dieppe had their front wheels stolen. But I'm sure Rennes is much more civilised. (me with friends in Rennes some years ago)

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2012, 05:23:14 PM »
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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2012, 07:20:19 PM »
The Knog Milkman lock seems to be quite a nicely engineered lock in the lightweight lock category.  It's not going to take much to break through it, but then neither would any comparable lock.  It's adequate for locking up a not too desirable bicycle in a low threat environment, and seems to be well built.  The lock mechanism appears to be very similar to that on some of their larger locks (It's the same type of key as my Knog Fisticuff).

Actually, it is rocket science.
 

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Re: Security on LEL
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2012, 09:57:56 PM »
On a slightly related matter I've noticed that since my move to France i outgun everybody in the lock department!

Toothgrimper nearly had his bike stolen from under his nose in Paris a few years ago. Bikes locked up outside a restaurant in Dieppe had their front wheels stolen. But I'm sure Rennes is much more civilised. (me with friends in Rennes some years ago)

Presumably this is one of those time travelling machine story.  ;)