Super-Twat

[ElyDave]

I said that to Mrs ED the other day, it didn't go down well.

Just imagine a ride or TT around the M25, what fun

[citoyen]

Simple. Ban cars.

Doesn’t solve the problem of floating bus stops unless you also ban buses. And bikes sharing the lane with buses is not exactly problem-free.

What do they do in the Netherlands? Surely someone must have come up with a workable solution to this somewhere?

[fd3]

Gillian Keegan and Rish!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-69013002
For playing political football with children.

[andrewc]

Have we had Looza this week ?


https://www.thepoke.com/2024/05/16/laurence-fox-compared-james-bond/

[grams]

What do they do in the Netherlands? Surely someone must have come up with a workable solution to this somewhere?

A textbook Dutch urban street already has the cycle track running down the centre of each pavement, so they just put the shelter on the half of the pavement that's nearest the road, maybe skewing the track away a bit to make more space.

(other designs with e.g. the cycle track running between the shelter and the road also exist)

[citoyen]

What do they do in the Netherlands? Surely someone must have come up with a workable solution to this somewhere?

A textbook Dutch urban street already has the cycle track running down the centre of each pavement, so they just put the shelter on the half of the pavement that's nearest the road, maybe skewing the track away a bit to make more space.

Sounds vaguely familiar from my experience of cycling in the Netherlands now you mention it.

(other designs with e.g. the cycle track running between the shelter and the road also exist)

So people have to cross the cycle lane from the shelter to board the bus? Not sure I like the sound of that.

[Beardy]

The fact is when we share space there are going to be points of potential conflict. The sensible solution is for,all parties to,recognise these pinch points and alter their behaviour accordingly. Unfortunately people are inherently not sensible and expect to continue in their,own bubble without recourse to others which inevitably leads to those potential points of conflict becoming actual points of conflict.

[Polar Bear]

Put the bikes down the middle and the buses on either side.  There is always going to be an interaction at junctions but having the cyclists in the middle removes the need for floating bus stops.