I wear 2xl in Owayo (a bit of a loose fit, but I prefer that to being painted on). I ordered 3xl for PBP as that seemed right based on measurements, and I'll wear something a bit loose but not something too tight. As the woman handed it to me she said it would be too big. It was a bit looser than I like, but I'd have lived with it. A minute later, a big bloke was given a 2XL, which was comedy-small on him. We swapped and both went away happy.