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Title: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 21 February, 2017, 06:40:59 pm
Back in 2009 you lot helped me out with tips to find off-beat stuff to do in Paris (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13538.msg242063#msg242063) and your input assisted greatly in me and The Current Mrs R having a top time in France's capital.

So, please can you repeat the trick with London?  We have a weekend trip planned at the end of June to celebrate the TCMR's birthday.  We want to know about the fun, the interesting, the unusual stuff to do, see, eat and drink.  If all your ideas are too numerous to pack into a single weekend fret not as we only live 45 minutes away so can easily work through the list at other times.

thanks in advance  :thumbsup: :-*
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Tim Hall on 21 February, 2017, 06:51:54 pm
The Kircaldy Testing Museum, Southwark.  Not been there myself and keep meaning to.

http://www.testingmuseum.org.uk/ (http://www.testingmuseum.org.uk/)

The Brunel Museum, Rov rive. http://www.brunel-museum.org.uk/ (http://www.brunel-museum.org.uk/)

Sir John Soane's Museum, obvs.  Well Lincoln's Inn Fields, actually, not obvs.

http://www.soane.org/ (http://www.soane.org/)

 
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 22 February, 2017, 08:04:50 am
Cool!
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: jiberjaber on 22 February, 2017, 09:03:43 am
The Kircaldy Testing Museum, Southwark.  Not been there myself and keep meaning to.

http://www.testingmuseum.org.uk/ (http://www.testingmuseum.org.uk/)

The Brunel Museum, Rov rive. http://www.brunel-museum.org.uk/ (http://www.brunel-museum.org.uk/)

Sir John Soane's Museum, obvs.  Well Lincoln's Inn Fields, actually, not obvs.

http://www.soane.org/ (http://www.soane.org/)

We did the Brunel Museum when they had the floodlit tunnel on too which was a good combo http://www.brunel-museum.org.uk/events/floodlit-thames-tunnel/
There's a couple of famous pubs near there too iirc to do with the Royal Society meetings... will try and remember what and where
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Robh on 22 February, 2017, 09:35:15 am
Sir John Soane's Museum, obvs.  Well Lincoln's Inn Fields, actually, not obvs.

http://www.soane.org/ (http://www.soane.org/)
Another vote for this. I actually found the museum exhibits themselves a bit boring, but the actual place itself is fascinating*, and Lincoln's Inn Fields is a veritable oasis in the middle of London. The cafeteria next to the tennis courts is a great place for a snack and a sit-down.

I would also recommend Bunhill Fields (https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/city-gardens/visitor-information/Pages/Bunhill-Fields.aspx) and the Postman's Park (https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/city-gardens/visitor-information/Pages/Postman's-Park.aspx).

* Edit = apologies, I was thinking of the Hunterian Museum in Lincoln's Inn Fields. (Thank you Little Jim.)
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: jiberjaber on 22 February, 2017, 10:03:07 am
We did this when they first started in London which was a fun trip...

https://www.londonducktours.co.uk/

Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Clare on 22 February, 2017, 10:06:11 am
The Kircaldy Testing Museum is brilliant but they have very limited opening hours (first Sunday of every month). We had never heard of it but just happened to be in the hotel next door at the right time.

The Soane Museum is also a brilliant place and you get to see the Hoggarths.

If you are foodies Borough Market is interesting but very expensive (as markets go), not open Sunday. It will be rammed with visitors.

The Undercroft on the South Bank often has rather good sk8r dudes doing their thing.

Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: ian on 22 February, 2017, 10:10:23 am
Go to Crystal Palace, marvel at the lack of both crystal and palace. How did a greenhouse burn down anyway? Go see the wrong-o-saurs, though some of them are in dino-restoration hospital at the moment. Gaze out at the best view there is of London. Cross the road and soak up the views of Croydon skyline. Then cross back, quickly, before it nicks your eyeballs.

Borough Market is super-annoying crowded these days, but there's loads of street-food-y markets dotted around (walk a bit further to Maltby Street and wash down lunch with something from Anspach & Hobday). Sometimes just wandering is the best plan, the touristy stuff sucks, I've no idea why people fly around the world to visit the same shops that in every capital or, the horrors, to queue for the Hard Rock Cafe.

Scientists have proved that tourists won't immediately die if they leave zone 1. Just ensure you take an environment suit and self-contained air supply.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: fhills on 22 February, 2017, 10:15:06 am
Horniman museum.

http://www.horniman.ac.uk/

Great building, interesting mish mash of stuff (though some bits are closed at the mo as it is forever improving itself), sundial trail, wonderful gardens - nice mix of formal and informal, one of THE best views of London, particularly the modern stuff, from the gardens, whatever north Londoners may tell you, animal enclosure including a giant white rabbit (animals receive guests only about 12 to 4).

Great handy spoons in an art deco cinema.

From the tourist board:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88S4ofkC5a8

Faster to get to than you might think on the overground.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: ian on 22 February, 2017, 10:21:54 am
And they've got a Robot Zoo at the moment. Which sounds cool, but I've not been yet.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: citoyen on 22 February, 2017, 10:25:53 am
Dennis Severs' House
http://www.dennissevershouse.co.uk/
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Little Jim on 22 February, 2017, 12:57:38 pm
If you do go to the Soane's museum in Lincoln Inn then the Huntarian is also worth a visit - it is the museum of the Royal College of Surgeons and full of preserved specimens and skeletons.  Apsley House at Hyde Park Corner - the Duke of Wellington's old house is very interesting if you like the National Trust type of place (It isn't NT, but the same type of visit) plus you can buy a dual ticket to get you up onto the Wellington Arch just across the road.

You could also take TCMR for afternoon tea somewhere nice - I am sure she deserves a special treat (as well as a medal).  You wont get in to the likes of the Savoy for ages but we went to the Athanaeum (just down the road from Apsley House) for the MiL's big birthday and even a died-in-the-wool cynic like me enjoyed it.  Very very good food and it really is as much as you can eat and drink and we were not rushed at all - I can't remember what sort of dress code they have but you might be pushing your luck if you turn up part way through a 400km perm hoping to re-fuel.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Kim on 22 February, 2017, 01:00:35 pm
Scientists have proved that tourists won't immediately die if they leave zone 1.

They make it to Zone 3 all the time in search of the birthplace of Shakespeare...
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: alexb on 22 February, 2017, 01:23:42 pm
The Old Operating Museum and Herb Garret: http://oldoperatingtheatre.com/ amazing and cheap.
Tower Bridge Experience is surprisingly not shit.
St Katherine's Wharf nearby is also good for a wander, as is the walk along the river around there.

Add a river boat extension to your travel card and cruise all the way out to Woolwich, through the Thames Barrier for buttons, then get off at Greenwich and have a walk around the Naval College and the market (nicer food, cheaper and less crowded than Borough).

The observatory is worth a visit.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: hellymedic on 22 February, 2017, 02:51:27 pm
Scientists have proved that tourists won't immediately die if they leave zone 1.

They make it to Zone 3 all the time in search of the birthplace of Shakespeare...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 22 February, 2017, 02:57:26 pm
Scientists have proved that tourists won't immediately die if they leave zone 1.

They make it to Zone 3 all the time in search of the birthplace of Shakespeare...

He was born at The Globe Theatre wasn't he?

Some great suggestions by the way, thanks very much, keep them coming.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Tim Hall on 22 February, 2017, 09:12:18 pm
The London Museum of Water and Steam (used to be the Kew Steam Museum). It's at Kew, so a small schlepp out from the centre.

http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/ (http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/)
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jurek on 22 February, 2017, 09:36:39 pm
The London Museum of Water and Steam (used to be the Kew Steam Museum). It's at Kew, so a small schlepp out from the centre.

http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/ (http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/)

Ohh!
I did that a few years ago - that's a good one.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: ian on 23 February, 2017, 09:46:14 am
Scientists have proved that tourists won't immediately die if they leave zone 1.

They make it to Zone 3 all the time in search of the birthplace of Shakespeare...

I once had a Chinese tourist who, on a train from London Euston to Liverpool Lime Street, asked me if he was on the right train to Liverpool Street. In Runcorn.

Re offbeat London, if The Breakdown has happened before you travel, then Melissa, the last living girl in Forest Hill, can give tours of post-apocalyptic south-east London. Don't look up, of course, on account of the demons.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Andrij on 23 February, 2017, 01:44:35 pm
Tube to Hampstead, and around the corner from the station stroll down Flask Walk and stop in The Flask for a fortifying beverage.  Continue along Flask Walk, perhaps stopping at Burgh House & Hampstead Museum before heading down Willow Road to visit “Erno Goldfinger’s innovative 1939 Modernist house” at no. 2.  If needed, stop in The Freemasons Arms before reaching no. 2.

Next, cross over onto Hampstead Heath, aiming for Parliament Hill and the views of London.  Turn north and work your way up across the Heath to explore the art collection in Kenwood House.  Then cut back west then along the road for a drink/meal at The Spaniards.  Continue along Spaniards Road then down Heath Street, detouring up to The Holly Bush for a drink/meal before returning to Hampstead station.

Caveat: If you plan to eat at either The Spaniards or The Holly Bush then it’s a good idea to make a reservation – they both can get rather busy.

ETA: not particularly off-beat, but it's beyond Zone 1 so I don't consider part of the standard 'things to do in London'.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: andrewc on 23 February, 2017, 02:24:27 pm
Kenwood House is definitely worth a visit.    If arts are an interest then Leighton House in Holland Park is lovely.  https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/subsites/museums/leightonhousemuseum1.aspx
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 23 February, 2017, 02:56:46 pm
Tube to Hampstead, and around the corner from the station stroll down Flask Walk and stop in The Flask for a fortifying beverage.  Continue along Flask Walk, perhaps stopping at Burgh House & Hampstead Museum before heading down Willow Road to visit “Erno Goldfinger’s innovative 1939 Modernist house” at no. 2.  If needed, stop in The Freemasons Arms before reaching no. 2.

Next, cross over onto Hampstead Heath, aiming for Parliament Hill and the views of London.  Turn north and work your way up across the Heath to explore the art collection in Kenwood House.  Then cut back west then along the road for a drink/meal at The Spaniards.  Continue along Spaniards Road then down Heath Street, detouring up to The Holly Bush for a drink/meal before returning to Hampstead station.

Caveat: If you plan to eat at either The Spaniards or The Holly Bush then it’s a good idea to make a reservation – they both can get rather busy.

ETA: not particularly off-beat, but it's beyond Zone 1 so I don't consider part of the standard 'things to do in London'.

Love it, you've missed your vocation  :thumbsup:

Thanks for all the other suggestions by the way, keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Palinurus on 23 February, 2017, 03:17:55 pm
The London Museum of Water and Steam (used to be the Kew Steam Museum). It's at Kew, so a small schlepp out from the centre.

http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/ (http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/)

Nearby is the Musical Museum, it's a museum of automated musical instruments. It's great, or it was when I went there some time ago.

http://www.musicalmuseum.co.uk/

You need to turn up at the right time to join a tour so you can watch and hear the instruments. It won't be any fun otherwise.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: jiberjaber on 23 February, 2017, 06:01:08 pm
For Sunday unfortunately you might not be able to attend the Church (http://thechurchlondon.com/)  O:-) anymore, but at least you can get your dinner in a convenient burger format. (http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/restaurants/london-restaurant-launches-a-roast-dinner-burger-a3474156.html)

Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Exit Stage Left on 23 February, 2017, 06:21:12 pm
The City of London do a number of guided walks, and there are self-guided leaflets. As a bit of a dendrophile I'd favour the Tree Trail.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/city-gardens/Documents/Tree-trail-City-of-London.pdf

I lived in the suburbs, and I always liked the City at the weekend, as it's nice and quiet.
https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/visit-the-city/walks/Pages/self-guided.aspx

Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jurek on 23 February, 2017, 06:53:20 pm
The London Museum of Water and Steam (used to be the Kew Steam Museum). It's at Kew, so a small schlepp out from the centre.

http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/ (http://www.waterandsteam.org.uk/)

Nearby is the Musical Museum, it's a museum of automated musical instruments. It's great, or it was when I went there some time ago.

http://www.musicalmuseum.co.uk/

You need to turn up at the right time to join a tour so you can watch and hear the instruments. It won't be any fun otherwise.
Wow!
That's come on a bit. Last time I visited, it was operating out of a draughty old church building in Brentford.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Tim Hall on 23 February, 2017, 08:55:05 pm
Following on the musical theme, what about Longplayer at Trinity Buoy Wharf?

Quote
Longplayer is a one thousand year long musical composition. It began playing at midnight on the 31st of December 1999, and will continue to play without repetition until the last moment of 2999, at which point it will complete its cycle and begin again. Conceived and composed by Jem Finer, it was originally produced as an Artangel commission, and is now in the care of the Longplayer Trust.
http://longplayer.org (http://longplayer.org)
http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com (http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com)
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jurek on 23 February, 2017, 09:07:40 pm
Following on the musical theme, what about Longplayer at Trinity Buoy Wharf?

Quote
Longplayer is a one thousand year long musical composition. It began playing at midnight on the 31st of December 1999, and will continue to play without repetition until the last moment of 2999, at which point it will complete its cycle and begin again. Conceived and composed by Jem Finer, it was originally produced as an Artangel commission, and is now in the care of the Longplayer Trust.
http://longplayer.org (http://longplayer.org)
http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com (http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com)
Trinity Buoy Wharf is always worth a visit.
All kinds of interesting $h!t goes on there - much of it not widely (if at all) publicised.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Tim Hall on 23 February, 2017, 09:58:46 pm
Following on the musical theme, what about Longplayer at Trinity Buoy Wharf?

Quote
Longplayer is a one thousand year long musical composition. It began playing at midnight on the 31st of December 1999, and will continue to play without repetition until the last moment of 2999, at which point it will complete its cycle and begin again. Conceived and composed by Jem Finer, it was originally produced as an Artangel commission, and is now in the care of the Longplayer Trust.
http://longplayer.org (http://longplayer.org)
http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com (http://www.trinitybuoywharf.com)
Trinity Buoy Wharf is always worth a visit.
All kinds of interesting $h!t goes on there - much of it not widely (if at all) publicised.
They had a machine wot made nekkid ladies when I went there once. Nekkid, I tell you.

(what's the current state of Fatboys?)

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Machine.

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Nekkid lady.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jakob W on 23 February, 2017, 10:14:05 pm
London Transport Museum is great (though Covent Garden isn't exactly un-touristy...)

I've not yet been to the Design Museum in the old Commonwealth Institute but the building's stunning.

The Star of Belgravia is a fantastic Fuller's pub in a mews behind the German Embassy about five minute's walk from Sloane Square - buy TCMR something at one of the jewellers on Sloane St and head there for a refresher?
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Zipperhead on 23 February, 2017, 11:01:55 pm
London Transport Museum is great (though Covent Garden isn't exactly un-touristy...)

I've not yet been to the Design Museum in the old Commonwealth Institute but the building's stunning.

The Star of Belgravia is a fantastic Fuller's pub in a mews behind the German Embassy about five minute's walk from Sloane Square - buy TCMR something at one of the jewellers on Sloane St and head there for a refresher?

The Star is where the great train robbery is supposed to have been planned.

I went to the design museum on Sunday. The building is lovely but I can't say that I was over impressed with the way the space is used inside. There's very little space used for (free) exhibits, and the labelling of things is very poor - well, things are detailed quite well, so on the info board you might see that in the area in front of you, amongst the cameras no 109 is a Polaroid SX70, but there are no numbers next to the exhibits, so unless you really know your stuff you won't have much idea what a lot of the things are.

However, nearby.... Leighton House Museum is worth visiting, or if that's too on-beat, the Roof Gardens (http://www.virginlimitededition.com/en/the-roof-gardens/the-gardens) are very nice.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jakob W on 23 February, 2017, 11:43:55 pm
Ah, yes, I'd forgotten the train robbery connection; perhaps more importantly it's one of the few pubs in the country to have been in every edition of the Good Beer Guide!
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Andrij on 24 February, 2017, 03:28:58 pm
Fatboys has been closed for some time now.  :'(   There's a fancy (relatively speaking) in its place.

When I was last there a few months ago the diner itself was moved off to the side and had a For Sale notice on it.  If I make it out for a ride tomorrow I'll check out current status.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Andrij on 24 February, 2017, 03:31:11 pm
Tube to Hampstead, and around the corner from the station stroll down Flask Walk and stop in The Flask for a fortifying beverage.  Continue along Flask Walk, perhaps stopping at Burgh House & Hampstead Museum before heading down Willow Road to visit “Erno Goldfinger’s innovative 1939 Modernist house” at no. 2.  If needed, stop in The Freemasons Arms before reaching no. 2.

Next, cross over onto Hampstead Heath, aiming for Parliament Hill and the views of London.  Turn north and work your way up across the Heath to explore the art collection in Kenwood House.  Then cut back west then along the road for a drink/meal at The Spaniards.  Continue along Spaniards Road then down Heath Street, detouring up to The Holly Bush for a drink/meal before returning to Hampstead station.

Caveat: If you plan to eat at either The Spaniards or The Holly Bush then it’s a good idea to make a reservation – they both can get rather busy.

ETA: not particularly off-beat, but it's beyond Zone 1 so I don't consider part of the standard 'things to do in London'.

Love it, you've missed your vocation  :thumbsup:

Thanks for all the other suggestions by the way, keep 'em coming!

I should add:
* Flask Walk has some interesting shops (well, did, last time I was there); and
* Burgh and Kenwood Houses have tea rooms.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: contango on 25 February, 2017, 05:41:59 am

I often took the chance to have a swift jar at the Bishop's Mitre on Hatton Garden. Well, kind of on Hatton Garden (the nearest tube station is probably Chancery Lane on the Central Line), you look for a little alleyway with an easily missable sign on a lamp post, follow the alleyway and you get there. Much real ale goodness. Often used to meet friends in their function room - the room was upstairs and one of the friends was a wheelchair user but she loved the pub and didn't want to meet at another venue, so a few of us carried her up the stairs so she could join in.

Last time I visited London I must admit I really enjoyed just walking the streets and seeing the sights, even the really touristy ones. My wife and I walked along the Mall many times, walked through the West End and the City just to see the architecture and take in the buzz. I must admit I got rather tired of it when we lived there, but having the benefit of combining being tourists with knowing the back roads better than the masses meant we could see what we wanted without getting caught up in the crowds when we were ready to move on.

Years ago we had some friends from USAnia come to visit and we took them on a river cruise. I think we started at Westminster and got off at Hampton Court. There may have been an option to go a little further but we were pretty close to the edge of the world so feared falling off into space if we did, so we quit while we were ahead. Then of course from Hampton Court you can see the palace (pretty touristy), take a short walk into Bushey Park (not so touristy) and, if you're so inclined, walk through the park until it spits you out in Hampton Wick near Kingston Bridge. If you end up there, go the roundabout on the west side of the bridge, turn left and shortly after the electric bike shop is a little cafe called Hussars. I've always had good coffee there. Just don't ask for tea if you're easily offended. And, since this is a cycling forum, you'll be very close to Sigma Sport where you can spend sums of money with big scary numbers after the pound sign on very nice bicycles.

If you're really into walking you can walk along the Thames from Kingston to Kew Gardens and further. It's a bit of a trek but if the weather is nice it's nice and picturesque. When I lived in the area I often cycled that way.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 07 April, 2017, 04:22:09 pm
A thumbnail of the plan, most of which has been booked:

Staying at CitizenM, Shoreditch.
Friday evening - dinner at Cafe Spice Namaste
Saturday morning - Westminster Abbey (not very off-beat I know but we've always wanted to visit)
Saturday afternoon - afternoon tea onna Routemaster bus (front seat, upstairs)
Saturday evening - live music at the Nightjar
Sunday - Andrij's Hamstead suggestions

We're really looking forward to it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: psyclist on 07 April, 2017, 07:09:32 pm
Looks like an interesting weekend. Being so central, you'll no doubt be looking forward to using the Boris bikes?

Great thread idea ... i've added a couple of items to my 'to-do' list.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jurek on 16 April, 2017, 01:21:39 pm
Fatboys has been closed for some time now.  :'(   There's a fancy (relatively speaking) in its place.

When I was last there a few months ago the diner itself was moved off to the side and had a For Sale notice on it.  If I make it out for a ride tomorrow I'll check out current status.
Fatboys was open and trading today - Easter Sunday - although I didn't go in. I confess to being disenchanted with FB's menu and ambience ever since Joe went back to Italy, taking his outstanding pastrami on rye with grilled sauerkraut with him.
Instead, I had breakfast at Bow Creek Cafe (https://www.facebook.com/bowcreekcafe/) which stands on the same plot as Fatboys once did. Eating in there is a bit like eating in someone's front room. At £6.50 I thought their vegetarian breakfast was very good vfm, as well as being freshly made and tasty. I talked with the owner, asking her would an hour be enough notice for her that a dozen cyclists were on their way and in need of feeding.
If you are thinking of going there with a group of cyclists, unannounced - don't. Much as you are welcome, she won't thank you for it as at weekends they are absolutely rammed. It was fairly quiet in there today, but I think that is because Easter. She'll be more than happy to reserve and hold a table for you and as many people as you'd like to bring with you if you call her to make a reservation on the day prior to your visit. Reserve your table by calling 07591 383 757.
Would eat there again. Deffo.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Tigerrr on 17 April, 2017, 01:28:01 pm
Its been mentioned but Dennis Severs house is probably the best thing in the whole of London. You have to book. there is nothing else like it, ever.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Andrij on 17 April, 2017, 01:35:06 pm
Jurek, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Jurek on 17 April, 2017, 04:55:32 pm
Its been mentioned but Dennis Severs house is probably the best thing in the whole of London. You have to book. there is nothing else like it, ever.
Can you eat there?  :P
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: hubner on 17 April, 2017, 08:30:56 pm
I went to the Museum of London Docklands a couple of weeks ago. OK not really off-beat but it's easy to get to, just round the corner from West Ferry DLR on CS3, and it's free.

Looking at:
http://www.dennissevershouse.co.uk/
you would think the house as it is now is a real old house turned into a museum, similar to eg John Soane's Museum. But it's actually "fake", and the website comes across as pompous and up its own backside.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Tigerrr on 20 April, 2017, 07:39:48 am
It isn't fake, it is a lifelong artwork. All about atmosphere, like a sort of extreme form of set dressing, but more focussed. It isn't reality either, more like historical reality on steroids. Mind you I am a fan and have been several times - you have to enter into the spirit of the place, and then it becomes quite special. They only let very few people in a time and you have to be silent.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: red marley on 20 April, 2017, 08:06:58 am
Dennis Severs' house looks really interesting - just my thing. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 July, 2017, 06:15:17 am
A thumbnail of the plan, most of which has been booked:

Staying at CitizenM, Shoreditch.
Friday evening - dinner at Cafe Spice Namaste
Saturday morning - Westminster Abbey (not very off-beat I know but we've always wanted to visit)
Saturday afternoon - afternoon tea onna Routemaster bus (front seat, upstairs)
Saturday evening - live music at the Nightjar
Sunday - Andrij's Hamstead suggestions

We're really looking forward to it  :thumbsup:

This ^^^ is pretty much what we did except rather than go to Westminster Abbey on Saturday morning we went down the helter skelter thing at the Olympic Park, Stratford, well I did, twice, as The Current Mrs R bottled it  ;D   After which we got the DLR down to the river for a ride on the cable cars then took a Clipper boat up to Westminster before wending our way to Victoria coach station for afternoon tea.

Oh and on Friday evening we went to The Cocktail Trading Company before dinner.  We had the most wonderful weekend, thanks for all the inspiration  :-*

Some pictures ...

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Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Andrij on 04 July, 2017, 10:16:37 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 July, 2017, 10:48:13 am
Is that a, um, 'deconstructed coffee'?
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 July, 2017, 10:54:15 am
Is that a, um, 'deconstructed coffee'?

It was meant to be a pint of Guinness!  The glass came lying on its side and the white stuff was panacota which you could eat.  You then poured in the black coloured cocktail which is in the jug, a can't remember what was in it but it was very nice and made me a bit pissed  ;D

Cocktails at The Cocktail Trading Company were £10 to £12, those at The Nightjar were about £16.  I appreciate these prices are steep for a drink but when you see the imagination that has gone into designing them and the skill needed to make them plus the superb surroundings they  don't seem quite so expensive.  Both joints were packed and the Nightjar were turning folks away so why charge less?
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 04 July, 2017, 11:51:08 am
right. A deconstructed guinness cocktail then.

Gimme a barrel of rum and some ice, mines the corner of floor near the back.
Title: Re: Off-beat London
Post by: Oscar's dad on 04 July, 2017, 11:58:28 am
I'll see you there!