The great chip shop gravy divide.

[clarion]

The Staffs oatcake is similar to the Yorkshire Haverbread/havercake.

And, please note the correct spelling of pie-clate!

I like dosas!  In fact, i like a lot of breads - naan & chapatis, too

[Really Ancien]

Jumping back to a note from Damon that didn't seem to get picked up.

What about steak and kidney puddings from chip shops?  Pies, yes dead common, but I've only ever come across  s&k puddings in darkest lancashire.  Do they crop up elsewhere?

Steak and kidney pudding is a common dish throughout Britain, it was Rumpole's favourite dish. Hollands are one of the suppliers in Lancashire of an individual version, nicknamed 'Babby's Yeads' in the area between Wigan and Bolton. These require a specialised sort of baine marie to reheat them.
A trivet with appropriately sized holes stands in a pan of boiling water, the advantage is that the pudding is always at the right temperature and cannot dry out. For a chippy to serve puddings requires a supplier and a dedicated piece of equipment.

Damon.

[Gattopardo]

Jumping back to a note from Damon that didn't seem to get picked up.

What about steak and kidney puddings from chip shops?  Pies, yes dead common, but I've only ever come across  s&k puddings in darkest lancashire.  Do they crop up elsewhere?

Is it really a pudding or more like a different kind of pie?

Have had the tinned fray bentos ones and it was nothing special.

[Gattopardo]

The Staffs oatcake is similar to the Yorkshire Haverbread/havercake.

And, please note the correct spelling of pie-clate!

I like dosas!  In fact, i like a lot of breads - naan & chapatis, too

So whats a pikelet?

Oh and maybe you should get a tandour

[clarion]

A pikelet is a small pike.

[Really Ancien]

Jumping back to a note from Damon that didn't seem to get picked up.

What about steak and kidney puddings from chip shops?  Pies, yes dead common, but I've only ever come across  s&k puddings in darkest lancashire.  Do they crop up elsewhere?

Is it really a pudding or more like a different kind of pie?

Have had the tinned fray bentos ones and it was nothing special.

It's a suet pudding, a pie has a pastry case, puddings are steamed, puddings pre-date the types of ranges that have a warming area at breast height. Ovens are the most energy intensive way of cooking food, grilling, boiling and frying use less fuel. Pie making and baking in Lancashire are associated with mining areas, fuel was cheap and miners eat pies underground. At some point pies started to be sold at chip shops, but historically they were available from pie shops and pork butchers. puddings have always been associated with chip shops.

Damon.

[Gattopardo]

A pikelet is a small pike.

   So what are the flat bread type thing that are sold called pikelets.

Go on get a tandour, fresh naan breads ummmm

[clarion]

A pikelet is a small pike.

   So what are the flat bread type thing that are sold called pikelets.

Go on get a tandour, fresh naan breads ummmm

I can't help it if southerners are ignorant and illiterate!

[peterh]

Jumping back to a note from Damon that didn't seem to get picked up.

What about steak and kidney puddings from chip shops?  Pies, yes dead common, but I've only ever come across  s&k puddings in darkest lancashire.  Do they crop up elsewhere?

Is it really a pudding or more like a different kind of pie?

Have had the tinned fray bentos ones and it was nothing special.

I used to have steak and kidney puddings at the chip shops of my youth and they were the real thing.  Invariably supplied by Hollands (see Damons posts)

[tiermat]

I have fond memories of hot pork pie and chips from our local chippy....

Maybe that has some bearing on my shape in later life?

[rafletcher]

. The pizzas are folded over and deep-fried, though - not for the unsuspecting!

  Is there anything they wont deep fry in Scotland 
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Well in my time on the South Side of Glasgow (late 70's / early 80's) I never saw a scollop of any description (I used to go to the chippy near the junction of Cathcart and Prospecthill roads) but it did have two kinds of fish and chips. Fish supper (battered plaice and chips) and special fish supper (breaded plaice and chips). It had white "condiment". Acetic acid as opposed to malt vinegar I think. Oh, and the pies.... having been used to Walls steak and kidney pies from the Wavecrest on Albert Road in Southsea (near the Kings Theatre, they did amazing self prepared double fried chips when I was there) I asked for one very soon after I'd moved to Glasgow. Well, it was a shortcrust pie (not the flaky crust I'd been used to) and - well I should have known from the way they were stacked on end like tombstones - it had been deep fried. But standing them up doesn't get all the oil/fat out    The first and last chippy's steak pie I had in Scotland.  And I never did manage a boiled mutton pie either.

[Really Ancien]

I inspired myself to have an indulgent Central Lancashire lunch of Butter Pie and Coffee Renoir (or is it Renue?) both very local dishes so here is an explanation. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/AAuBEEkve7k&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/AAuBEEkve7k&rel=1</a>

Damon.

[Andrew Br]

Jumping back to a note from Damon that didn't seem to get picked up.

What about steak and kidney puddings from chip shops?  Pies, yes dead common, but I've only ever come across  s&k puddings in darkest lancashire.  Do they crop up elsewhere?

Is it really a pudding or more like a different kind of pie?

Have had the tinned fray bentos ones and it was nothing special.

I used to have steak and kidney puddings at the chip shops of my youth and they were the real thing.  Invariably supplied by Hollands (see Damons posts)

Puddings, like the meat pies, were even more delicious when they were just cooked.
On Friday nights (usually) there were a couple of rushes for pies at the Holands loading bay. The first occurred at pub chucking out time, the second when the clubs (actually make that club- Lar de Dars in Accrington) closed. The warehouse guys used to make a few quid by flogging them from under the metaphorical counter.

[Gattopardo]

A pikelet is a small pike.

   So what are the flat bread type thing that are sold called pikelets.

Go on get a tandour, fresh naan breads ummmm

I can't help it if southerners are ignorant and illiterate!

Email tescos to complain.

Here is the what wikipedia says Pikelet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia now is it a pancake or a dropped scone.  WTF is a dropped scone, why would you want one thats been dropped?

[Really Ancien]

A crumpet is made on a griddle or bakestone in a steel ring to give it the distinct edge. A pikelet is batter dropped onto the griddle as a pancake would be. Hence dropped scone.

Damon.

[Gattopardo]

So completly different to a pie clet thingy mentioned earlier?

[токамак]

My ex Australian girlfriend was always banging on about pikelets, I couldn't stand the word (little pancake does for me), but maybe it had more to do with the way it sounds with an Australian accent, just imagine it...

[clarion]

... A pikelet ...

... a pie clet ...

...pikelets...

PIE-CLATE!!!

[токамак]

pie-clate - Google Search

pikelet - Google Search

Pie-clate - Wikipedia search

Pikelet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pie-clate - maybe where you come form, but nowhere else.

[clarion]

But it comes from where I come from - not from Tesco head office or wherever!

[токамак]

You should do the wiki entry then and put the world right!

[clarion]

The reason why there isn't a Wiki entry may be that I have something better to do with my time.

*wonders whether there's a Wiki entry for Haverbread; CBA searching; moves on*

Have I mentioned the palare/polari debate?  I have a spare soapbox for that one...

[токамак]

ease up fella, it's the weekend, go and have a beer...

[clarion]

...and a pie-clate?

[токамак]

whatever...