Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Topic started by: Beardy on 16 April, 2020, 08:43:18 am
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i do so hope that I’m that active and bright when I get to be that age.
I heart warming story amongst all the gloom and doom.
What an absolute star.
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They should promote him.
I mean as a Major, not a meeja star.
Major Tom has a kind of ring to it.
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Yeah, but that doesn’t end well if memory serves.
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Then leapfrog him to Honorary Colonel, he can have one of Harry's
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That is a brilliant suggestion. :thumbsup:
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The Yorkshire Regiment gave him an honour guard for the final lap.
(https://i2-prod.gazettelive.co.uk/incoming/article18099525.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Coronavirus-Thu-April-16-2020.jpg)
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
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That struck me as bizarre. Also their major appeared to get very close to the old chap and it looked as if he was then reminded to take care.
Shame if he does all that and then gets the virus.
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
I think you'll find it's Ok, because they got there by doing a DIY by GPS.
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment are actually based in Warminster. Regiments aren't actually garrisoned where there names indicate historical recruiting came from. We also don't know if they made a special trip or were doing something in the area anyway.
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
I think you'll find it's Ok, because they got there by doing a DIY by GPS.
;D
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment are actually based in Warminster. Regiments aren't actually garrisoned where there names indicate historical recruiting came from. We also don't know if they made a special trip or were doing something in the area anyway.
1st Battalion are based in Warminster - the rest of the Yorkshire Regiment are based primarily in Yorkshire (according to the MoD).
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment are actually based in Warminster. Regiments aren't actually garrisoned where there names indicate historical recruiting came from. We also don't know if they made a special trip or were doing something in the area anyway.
1st Battalion are based in Warminster - the rest of the Yorkshire Regiment are based primarily in Yorkshire (according to the MoD).
The Army has indeed been hit badly by cuts and recruiting failures, but the 1st Bn didn't need the rest of the Regt to be able to muster 9 guys!
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I assume a chunk of them somewhere near Catterick, but I have no evidence for that
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I assume a chunk of them somewhere near Catterick, but I have no evidence for that
2nd Battalion. There is no 3rd any more due to downsizing.
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment are actually based in Warminster. Regiments aren't actually garrisoned where there names indicate historical recruiting came from. We also don't know if they made a special trip or were doing something in the area anyway.
1st Battalion are based in Warminster - the rest of the Yorkshire Regiment are based primarily in Yorkshire (according to the MoD).
And it was 1st who paid him a visit.
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It's lovely that someone is trying to raise money for the NHS and all that.
But it's a really fucked up state of affairs when the nations healthcare system needs to find it's funding that way.
It's the National Health Service, not a fucking charity.
Then of course we have the fact that to you and me, 12 million is a lot of money. To an organisation like the NHS, it's a rounding error...
Do not forget that the NHS, and all of the issues of austerity funding cuts are all purely ideological moves taken by a government who's attacks on public services are verging on criminal.
Lovely effort Capt Tom (Ret.). Fucking disgusting that the 6th largest economy on earth needs it...
J
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Fundraising hero Captain Tom Moore has been assessed as fit to work by the Department of Work and Pensions it has emerged.
The 99-year-old war veteran who has raised in excess of £14m for the NHS by completing 100 laps of his garden will have his state pension and other benefits withdrawn.
“Anyone who is fit enough to go round his garden 100 times is clearly fit for work,” said Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey. (https://newsthump.com/2020/04/16/dwp-declares-captain-tom-moore-fit-for-work/?utm_medium=webnotifications&utm_source=browser&utm_campaign=wordpress&utm_content=newpost)
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It's the National Health Service, not a fucking charity.
It provides sexual health services, therefore it's literally a fucking charity. ;D
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I understood his efforts were going to a charity that is supporting NHS personnel, not to the NHS itself. It is much easier as a journalist though to say that he's fundraising for the NHS
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment are actually based in Warminster. Regiments aren't actually garrisoned where there names indicate historical recruiting came from. We also don't know if they made a special trip or were doing something in the area anyway.
One rule for us, an another for them.
It's lovely that someone is trying to raise money for the NHS and all that.
But it's a really fucked up state of affairs when the nations healthcare system needs to find it's funding that way.
It's the National Health Service, not a fucking charity.
Then of course we have the fact that to you and me, 12 million is a lot of money. To an organisation like the NHS, it's a rounding error...
Do not forget that the NHS, and all of the issues of austerity funding cuts are all purely ideological moves taken by a government who's attacks on public services are verging on criminal.
Lovely effort Capt Tom (Ret.). Fucking disgusting that the 6th largest economy on earth needs it...
J
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that.
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If I were him, I'd spend the money on a wheelbarrow full of cocaine, a hotel room, and a brace of flexible young redheads.
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If I were him, I'd spend the money on a wheelbarrow full of cocaine, a hotel room, and a brace of flexible young redheads.
And the rest you would just waste.
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It's lovely that someone is trying to raise money for the NHS and all that.
But it's a really fucked up state of affairs when the nations healthcare system needs to find it's funding that way.
It's the National Health Service, not a fucking charity.
Then of course we have the fact that to you and me, 12 million is a lot of money. To an organisation like the NHS, it's a rounding error...
Do not forget that the NHS, and all of the issues of austerity funding cuts are all purely ideological moves taken by a government who's attacks on public services are verging on criminal.
Lovely effort Capt Tom (Ret.). Fucking disgusting that the 6th largest economy on earth needs it...
J
^This.
Especially all of the last line.
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I see that the Collosal Bell End cornered Hancock about MP's following the NZ line and taking a pay cut.
As you'd expect, Hancock came out of it looking like the miserable, tight, uncaring , greedy bastard that I consider him and his tory colleagues to be.
For once, well done Morgan.
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I see that the Collosal Bell End cornered Hancock about MP's following the NZ line and taking a pay cut.
As you'd expect, Hancock came out of it looking like the miserable, tight, uncaring , greedy bastard that I consider him and his tory colleagues to be.
For once, well done Morgan.
'sake! That's the second time in two weeks PM CBE has done or said something decent. Though I can't now remember what the first thing was.
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I understood his efforts were going to a charity that is supporting NHS personnel, not to the NHS itself.
Correct - per the second paragraph and a well-buried lede right down near the bottom of the BBC's report:
Captain Tom Moore originally wanted to raise £1,000 for NHS Charities Together by completing laps of his garden before his 100th birthday.
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NHS Charities Together, which support health service charities and will benefit from the funds, said it was "truly inspired and humbled" by his efforts.
Its chairman Ian Lush said about 150 charities would benefit from the money.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52303859
It is much easier as a journalist though to say that he's fundraising for the NHS
Easier? Or the journalist/copy editor/headline writer knew what sort of response would be elicited by creating that impression?
As demonstrated in posts up-thread... ;)
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But it's a really fucked up state of affairs when the nations healthcare system needs to find it's funding that way.
He's not raising money for "the NHS".
He's raising money for NHS Charities Together, you can read what they do here: https://www.nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/
(Although you might argue that a significant proportion of things that end of getting funded by NHS Charities Together should be funded by the Government anyway. But that's a different story. The main point is that "the NHS" and "NHS Charities Together" are quite different things. The latter raised £437m in donations last year.)
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I understood his efforts were going to a charity that is supporting NHS personnel, not to the NHS itself.
Correct - per the second paragraph and a well-buried lede right down near the bottom of the BBC's report:
Captain Tom Moore originally wanted to raise £1,000 for NHS Charities Together by completing laps of his garden before his 100th birthday.
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NHS Charities Together, which support health service charities and will benefit from the funds, said it was "truly inspired and humbled" by his efforts.
Its chairman Ian Lush said about 150 charities would benefit from the money.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52303859
It is much easier as a journalist though to say that he's fundraising for the NHS
Easier? Or the journalist/copy editor/headline writer knew what sort of response would be elicited by creating that impression?
As demonstrated in posts up-thread... ;)
Absolutely, ring bell, watch dogs slather and drool at the prospect of a feeding frenzy
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I see that the Collosal Bell End cornered Hancock about MP's following the NZ line and taking a pay cut.
As you'd expect, Hancock came out of it looking like the miserable, tight, uncaring , greedy bastard that I consider him and his tory colleagues to be.
For once, well done Morgan.
'sake! That's the second time in two weeks PM CBE has done or said something decent. Though I can't now remember what the first thing was.
He called the landlord of The Gammon Arms, Tim Martin, into question, using Bad Swears in the process, over his claim that there had been hardly any transmission in pubs.
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That was it. Your memorycells are outmemoritastic of mine.
More importantly, is this just random stuff or is he (PM CBE) becoming PM LBE (l=lesser)?
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He also shredded Hancock's sidekick, Helen Whately, who, as a McKinsey consultant before becoming a MP, was responsible for many of the fuck-ups that still burden the NHS with excessive bureaucracy and depleted resources. She's been wheeled out to the media a couple of times in the past month and is so spectacularly out of her depth that even Nick Robinson took her to pieces on 'Today'.
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Forgive me if I'm not overly impressed by soldiers from the Yorkshire Regiment travelling down to Bedfordshire to visit a 99 year old and put on a show... not exactly in line with:
(a) the social isolation policy for over 70s, or
(b) avoiding unnecessary journeys.
1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment are actually based in Warminster. Regiments aren't actually garrisoned where there names indicate historical recruiting came from. We also don't know if they made a special trip or were doing something in the area anyway.
1st Battalion are based in Warminster - the rest of the Yorkshire Regiment are based primarily in Yorkshire (according to the MoD).
And it was 1st who paid him a visit.
And Warminster is nowhere near Marston Moreteyne.
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That was it. Your memorycells are outmemoritastic of mine.
More importantly, is this just random stuff or is he (PM CBE) becoming PM LBE (l=lesser)?
There is a real issue when PM CBE is the chief MSM person holding the Government to account...
Laura Kuenssberg and Robert Peston continue to function as Cummings' pets. The government won't send people on to C4 news programmes.
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There is no law against unnecessary journeys. It is is illegal to leave your home without reasonable excuse. It is unlikely the soldiers were coming from their homes and even if they were, working from home to provide an honour guard was not possible.
Reading in today’s paper the “over 100s” are a special cohort who have super powers to resist covid-19. Let’s hope Tom makes it through the next two weeks.
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He also shredded Hancock's sidekick, Helen Whately, who, as a McKinsey consultant before becoming a MP, was responsible for many of the fuck-ups that still burden the NHS with excessive bureaucracy and depleted resources. She's been wheeled out to the media a couple of times in the past month and is so spectacularly out of her depth that even Nick Robinson took her to pieces on 'Today'.
I'm pretty sure Whately couldn't win a debate with Sooty.
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There is no law against unnecessary journeys. It is is illegal to leave your home without reasonable excuse. It is unlikely the soldiers were coming from their homes and even if they were, working from home to provide an honour guard was not possible.
Reading in today’s paper the “over 100s” are a special cohort who have super powers to resist covid-19. Let’s hope Tom makes it through the next two weeks.
Don't spoil Reg's 'bah humbug' moment!
Actually, in my son's part of the Army (in Yorkshire, as it happens), they have all been sent home apart from those that are working on Nightingale hospitals or PPE distribution. Wattisham, the home of the Apache and just a couple of miles from me, has pretty much closed down.
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There is no law against unnecessary journeys. It is is illegal to leave your home without reasonable excuse. It is unlikely the soldiers were coming from their homes and even if they were, working from home to provide an honour guard was not possible.
Reading in today’s paper the “over 100s” are a special cohort who have super powers to resist covid-19. Let’s hope Tom makes it through the next two weeks.
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There does seem to be something about centenarians... we've just discharged a 102 year old who had Covid19.
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He also shredded Hancock's sidekick, Helen Whately, who, as a McKinsey consultant before becoming a MP, was responsible for many of the fuck-ups that still burden the NHS with excessive bureaucracy and depleted resources. She's been wheeled out to the media a couple of times in the past month and is so spectacularly out of her depth that even Nick Robinson took her to pieces on 'Today'.
Can you recall which day ? I'd quite like to listen to that.
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There is no law against unnecessary journeys. It is is illegal to leave your home without reasonable excuse. It is unlikely the soldiers were coming from their homes and even if they were, working from home to provide an honour guard was not possible.
Reading in today’s paper the “over 100s” are a special cohort who have super powers to resist covid-19. Let’s hope Tom makes it through the next two weeks.
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There does seem to be something about centenarians... we've just discharged a 102 year old who had Covid19.
Hope so, my godfather uncle is 91 and recently gave up golf. His father died c.1948 - lung cancer.
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He also shredded Hancock's sidekick, Helen Whately, who, as a McKinsey consultant before becoming a MP, was responsible for many of the fuck-ups that still burden the NHS with excessive bureaucracy and depleted resources. She's been wheeled out to the media a couple of times in the past month and is so spectacularly out of her depth that even Nick Robinson took her to pieces on 'Today'.
Can you recall which day ? I'd quite like to listen to that.
Here's the YouTube copy of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0gRQIWvd4
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Thank you !
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It's lovely that someone is trying to raise money for the NHS and all that.
But it's a really fucked up state of affairs when the nations healthcare system needs to find it's funding that way.
It's the National Health Service, not a fucking charity.
Then of course we have the fact that to you and me, 12 million is a lot of money. To an organisation like the NHS, it's a rounding error...
Do not forget that the NHS, and all of the issues of austerity funding cuts are all purely ideological moves taken by a government who's attacks on public services are verging on criminal.
Lovely effort Capt Tom (Ret.). Fucking disgusting that the 6th largest economy on earth needs it...
J
^This.
Especially all of the last line.
Yes, this.
And the poodle-BBC laps it up saying how wonderful it is, I guess Hancock and his ilk must be jubilant as it's such a distractor from the mess they not only created but continue to prolong.
GC
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I see that the Collosal Bell End cornered Hancock about MP's following the NZ line and taking a pay cut.
As you'd expect, Hancock came out of it looking like the miserable, tight, uncaring , greedy bastard that I consider him and his tory colleagues to be.
For once, well done Morgan.
'sake! That's the second time in two weeks PM CBE has done or said something decent. Though I can't now remember what the first thing was.
Yeah, it's really scary times. On the way back home from (essential) work in the East Mids this week I was listening to LBC and found myself agreeing with something Nigel Farage was saying. :o :o :o :o :o :o
To quote one of the first callers, "I'm a first time caller and it's the first time I've ever agreed with you Nigel" yes well quite.
GC
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I see that the Collosal Bell End cornered Hancock about MP's following the NZ line and taking a pay cut.
As you'd expect, Hancock came out of it looking like the miserable, tight, uncaring , greedy bastard that I consider him and his tory colleagues to be.
For once, well done Morgan.
'sake! That's the second time in two weeks PM CBE has done or said something decent. Though I can't now remember what the first thing was.
Yeah, it's really scary times. On the way back home from (essential) work in the East Mids this week I was listening to LBC and found myself agreeing with something Nigel Farage was saying. :o :o :o :o :o :o
To quote one of the first callers, "I'm a first time caller and it's the first time I've ever agreed with you Nigel" yes well quite.
GC
Well...
...what on earth did he say?
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He made a very sensible and reasoned suggestion that the govt needs to start developing a strategy for exiting lockdown wilst keeping covid infection controlled and cited Germany and Merkel as good examples!!!!!!!
GC
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It's very easy to say that. It's very hard to come up with an answer or, if several options were presented, to get behind a specific option.
It's much easier to sit on the sidelines and complain that what people aren't doing isn't good enough.
Just sounds like more populist pandering.
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It's very easy to say that. It's very hard to come up with an answer or, if several options were presented, to get behind a specific option.
It's much easier to sit on the sidelines and complain that what people aren't doing isn't good enough.
Just sounds like more populist pandering.
Aye but even a populist gets the odd thing right. Tho stats are that 90% or support the lockdown so he is currently in a minority.
It is actually much easier for anyone with the financial means to just nod and accept the BBC propaganda and merge into the stream of project fear 2.
Kier Starmer has also made the same point a couple of days previously and I hope the recall of parliament will allow the govt to be held to account constructively and so give them an incentive to get a cross party group to start getting a realistic risk managed route out of this in place.
GC
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There were outline exit strategies from SAGE before the lockdown commenced. There are a lot of behavioural scientists deciding how and when this is best communicated. One option - mobile phone tracking would be problematic with existing laws. I expect the adverts for the “NHS save lives” app will feature a sweet June Whitfield look-a-like granny.
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There does seem to be something about centenarians... we've just discharged a 102 year old who had Covid19.
Cohen the Barbarian principle?
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I see that the Collosal Bell End cornered Hancock about MP's following the NZ line and taking a pay cut.
As you'd expect, Hancock came out of it looking like the miserable, tight, uncaring , greedy bastard that I consider him and his tory colleagues to be.
For once, well done Morgan.
When I posted this
https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-a-rejection-of-the-mp-s-10000-corona-virus-working-from-home-allowance?use_react=false (https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-a-rejection-of-the-mp-s-10000-corona-virus-working-from-home-allowance?use_react=false)
The reaction seemed to be that our 'ardwerkin' representatives needed more more money rather than less.
Oh well..
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I think there is a difference between the MP salary and the support to provide equipment for their support staff to WFH.
perhaps we should just furlough parliament?
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I think there is a difference between the MP salary and the support to provide equipment for their support staff to WFH.
perhaps we should just furlough parliament?
Isn't that called a dictatorship?
J
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I think there is a difference between the MP salary and the support to provide equipment for their support staff to WFH.
perhaps we should just furlough parliament?
Isn't that called a dictatorship?
J
Not really. It happens every summer and at Christmas, Easter and so on.
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Then leapfrog him to Honorary Colonel, he can have one of Harry's
Ahem, news this morning reports a birthday promotion.
Colonel Tom it is :thumbsup:
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Wasn't Colonel Tom Elvis Presley's manager?
Back to reality (reality TV more like), it must be the dream autumn of one's life to raise so much money for charity, have a no. 1 single, get a promotion and 140,000 birthday cards, have an RAF fly-by, hava a train names after him and, I hear, there are rumours of an OBE or similar. I am so pleased for him.
I'm going to put my curmudgeons hat on,
It all feels rather like a distraction, lets face it there are loads of people who have volunteered for years supported charity's, the country, etc that never receive any recognition and then this chap comes along a walks up and down his garden and raises millions because well I don't know, and suddenly gets a fly past, military honours, public recognition, and now possibly a gong.
I am a cynic, and wear my cynics badge with pride but we can move on now the things done, leave the old boy alone or there'll be a petition to make him pm soon.
And the number 1 single is bloody awful which reminds why I stopped paying any attention to charts years ago, it's just trying to squeeze as much out of something folks have found to latch onto as possible.
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These weren’t for me then.
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Clicky (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=63464.msg2492530#msg2492530)
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Wasn't Colonel Tom Elvis Presley's manager?
Back to reality (reality TV more like), it must be the dream autumn of one's life to raise so much money for charity, have a no. 1 single, get a promotion and 140,000 birthday cards, have an RAF fly-by, hava a train names after him and, I hear, there are rumours of an OBE or similar. I am so pleased for him.
I'm going to put my curmudgeons hat on,
It all feels rather like a distraction, lets face it there are loads of people who have volunteered for years supported charity's, the country, etc that never receive any recognition and then this chap comes along a walks up and down his garden and raises millions because well I don't know, and suddenly gets a fly past, military honours, public recognition, and now possibly a gong.
I am a cynic, and wear my cynics badge with pride but we can move on now the things done, leave the old boy alone or there'll be a petition to make him pm soon.
And the number 1 single is bloody awful which reminds why I stopped paying any attention to charts years ago, it's just trying to squeeze as much out of something folks have found to latch onto as possible.
This. It's great for him, I'm sure. But it's a distraction and he's being used. The cheering and clapping sessions, the occasional silences.
All distractions.
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I'd argue that distraction is truly essential for everyone at the moment.
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I'm going to put my curmudgeons hat on,
It all feels rather like a distraction, lets face it there are loads of people who have volunteered for years supported charity's, the country, etc that never receive any recognition and then this chap comes along a walks up and down his garden and raises millions because well I don't know, and suddenly gets a fly past, military honours, public recognition, and now possibly a gong.
I am a cynic, and wear my cynics badge with pride but we can move on now the things done, leave the old boy alone or there'll be a petition to make him pm soon.
And the number 1 single is bloody awful which reminds why I stopped paying any attention to charts years ago, it's just trying to squeeze as much out of something folks have found to latch onto as possible.
Could he do any worse than the current incumbent ?
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I'm going to put my curmudgeons hat on,
It all feels rather like a distraction, lets face it there are loads of people who have volunteered for years supported charity's, the country, etc that never receive any recognition and then this chap comes along a walks up and down his garden and raises millions because well I don't know, and suddenly gets a fly past, military honours, public recognition, and now possibly a gong.
I am a cynic, and wear my cynics badge with pride but we can move on now the things done, leave the old boy alone or there'll be a petition to make him pm soon.
And the number 1 single is bloody awful which reminds why I stopped paying any attention to charts years ago, it's just trying to squeeze as much out of something folks have found to latch onto as possible.
Could he do any worse than the current incumbent ?
A sloth on mogodon would be more productive than the current incumbent.
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I'm going to put my curmudgeons hat on,
It all feels rather like a distraction, lets face it there are loads of people who have volunteered for years supported charity's, the country, etc that never receive any recognition and then this chap comes along a walks up and down his garden and raises millions because well I don't know, and suddenly gets a fly past, military honours, public recognition, and now possibly a gong.
I am a cynic, and wear my cynics badge with pride but we can move on now the things done, leave the old boy alone or there'll be a petition to make him pm soon.
And the number 1 single is bloody awful which reminds why I stopped paying any attention to charts years ago, it's just trying to squeeze as much out of something folks have found to latch onto as possible.
Could he do any worse than the current incumbent ?
A sloth on mogodon would be more productive than the current incumbent.
Do sloths father 10+ kids randomly?
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I'd argue that distraction is truly essential for everyone at the moment.
Not really, I think we should be holding the government to account.
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the two are not mutually exclusive in my view
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In theory no, but in practice they're hiding behind this. It's useful to them. The news on the radio this morning has featured two leading items. Captain Tom and It's Thursday So Get Ready to Clap.
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I am glad someone else is of similar mind. I just do not see what is so great about this. Using a wheeled walking frame an old man did the exercises prescribed for him by the NHS physiotherapist. If this was the most exercise he has done for a long time then it will have done him a world of good. If he did it regularly then what was so special about it?
This is why I do not sponsor people to do things which they enjoy or which are good for them.
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Wasn't Colonel Tom Elvis Presley's manager?
Yes and no. "Colonel" Tom Parker wasn't really a colonel. And, because he was born Andreas Cornelis van Kuijk, he wasn't really a Tom either.
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Just as a contrast, have you heard of this, anywhere on mainstream media? I hadn't https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200501-100-year-old-londoner-walks-100-laps-to-help-refugees-this-ramadan
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The second person to run a four minute mile didn’t get much publicity either.
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Just as a contrast, have you heard of this, anywhere on mainstream media? I hadn't https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200501-100-year-old-londoner-walks-100-laps-to-help-refugees-this-ramadan
I think there are a few centurions who have jumped on the bandwagon since Colonel Tom started his public walking and I, sure I’ve not heard of them all. However i suspect that I’ve not heard of this chap for the reason you may be alluding to as much as for any other reason.
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Yes, I'm struck by the fact that not even local news appears to have picked up on this, based on a Google search of his name.
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That said he has raised £6000 in less time than capt tom raised his first £1000.
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In theory no, but in practice they're hiding behind this. It's useful to them. The news on the radio this morning has featured two leading items. Captain Tom and It's Thursday So Get Ready to Clap.
I've been advised to stay in for 12 weeks (I'm complying). I've had two hips and a new knee from the NHS that I'm grateful for (after all, I've been paying national insurance contributions and income tax since July 1979), but I'm waning on the outpouring of gratitude every Thursday. I have a similar feeling* to 4th year primary school when Grant Watson didn’t get picked for Manchester Boys South.
*Back in September 1972, each primary school in South Manchester were invited to send two pupils for trials for South Manchester Boys under-11 football team (I was 3rd choice, so wasn’t chosen). Of the two boys who were nominated (coincidently both from my class) Grant Watson didn’t make the cut. When he came back from the trial to be told that he wasn’t picked, he started to cry. Cue the rest of the class following suit. I remember thinking, “you gave it your best, get over it, I’m not going to start bawling and wailing”. 😊
Ok, not the same, but you get the sentiment.
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Just as a contrast, have you heard of this, anywhere on mainstream media? I hadn't https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200501-100-year-old-londoner-walks-100-laps-to-help-refugees-this-ramadan
I think there are a few centurions who have jumped on the bandwagon since Colonel Tom started his public walking and I, sure I’ve not heard of them all. However i suspect that I’ve not heard of this chap for the reason you may be alluding to as much as for any other reason.
At the current rate, this will kill more really old people than Covid-19.
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Have lots of centenarians died due to undertaking athletic fundraising efforts then?
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Gotta say I don't like his paintings either.
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Have lots of centenarians died due to undertaking athletic fundraising efforts then?
The probability of a centenarian dying within 5 years of undertaking exercise is very high, so yes :D :P
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Have lots of centenarians died due to undertaking athletic fundraising efforts then?
The probability of a centenarian dying within 5 years of undertaking exercise is very high, so yes :D :P
Indeed, but I was just tweaking ian's tail!
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Have lots of centenarians died due to undertaking athletic fundraising efforts then?
If they haven't, they should be moving faster.
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She's the oldest that I've seen so far:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-52491703?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk&link_location=live-reporting-story
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She's the oldest that I've seen so far:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-52491703?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk&link_location=live-reporting-story
I am working on extending my veloviewer max square to 103x103 before my 103rd birthday.
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Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52732300)
What an extraordinary turn of events. So often in history the right person was in the right place at the right time, and so this time it is Captian Sir Tom Moore's turn.
Wholly deserved.
Trouble is, you can see the cynics in N° 10 sitting round and saying "what'll play well with the punters and not cost anything? I know, let's give that walker bloke a K".
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Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52732300)
What an extraordinary turn of events. So often in history the right person was in the right place at the right time, and so this time it is Captian Sir Tom Moore's turn.
Wholly deserved.
Trouble is, you can see the cynics in N° 10 sitting round and saying "what'll play well with the punters and not cost anything? I know, let's give that walker bloke a K".
Is it?
I know people who have spent a lifetime of selfless service to the country and never received anything to mark their efforts, despite applications being made, an old bloke walks up and down his garden, people go crazy for a distraction and the next minute he's being knighted.
The whole bloody system is a joke, Why don't they just make him sodding king next and be done with it.
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Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52732300)
What an extraordinary turn of events. So often in history the right person was in the right place at the right time, and so this time it is Captian Sir Tom Moore's turn.
Wholly deserved.
Trouble is, you can see the cynics in N° 10 sitting round and saying "what'll play well with the punters and not cost anything? I know, let's give that walker bloke a K".
Is it?
I know people who have spent a lifetime of selfless service to the country and never received anything to mark their efforts, despite applications being made, an old bloke walks up and down his garden, people go crazy for a distraction and the next minute he's being knighted.
The whole bloody system is a joke, Why don't they just make him sodding king next and be done with it.
:thumbsup:
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The honours system is a corrupt and patronising mess.
Capt. Tom seems like a decent enough bloke but in harsh reality there are NHS workers who have given their lives during this pandemic and so so many who have worked tirelessly and at great risk due to our inept politicians putting popularity first.
The recognition of the sacrifices made by those front line workers and many more looks increasingly like being a two year public sector pay freeze though I guess that will not apply to MP's.
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Some old white dude get a knighthood...
whilst a brown guy gets a £27,000 bill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/18/british-army-veteran-faces-27000-nhs-hospital-bill
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I'm sure he's a nice bloke and good on him, but he's still being cynically used.
I could do without the entire 'heroism' narrative too. People are doing their jobs. Perhaps if we think those jobs are important, we should think a bit more on that, rather than awarding them shitty pay and treating them too often as an immigration problem.
Anyway, I hope they enjoy the applause because that's all they'll be getting. At the end of this, they'll probably get a certificate with their name spelled incorrectly on it. Thanks. Pay rise? Soz, we're bankrupt.
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Anyway, I hope they enjoy the applause because that's all they'll be getting. At the end of this, they'll probably get a certificate with their name spelled incorrectly on it. Thanks. Pay rise? Soz, we're morally bankrupt.
FTFY
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Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52732300)
What an extraordinary turn of events. So often in history the right person was in the right place at the right time, and so this time it is Captian Sir Tom Moore's turn.
Wholly deserved.
Trouble is, you can see the cynics in N° 10 sitting round and saying "what'll play well with the punters and not cost anything? I know, let's give that walker bloke a K".
Is it?
I know people who have spent a lifetime of selfless service to the country and never received anything to mark their efforts, despite applications being made, an old bloke walks up and down his garden, people go crazy for a distraction and the next minute he's being knighted.
The whole bloody system is a joke, Why don't they just make him sodding king next and be done with it.
Exactly. He walks no further than any other particular centenarian. He did 10 laps per day for 10 days and looks a lot better for it.
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Anyway, I hope they enjoy the applause because that's all they'll be getting. At the end of this, they'll probably get a certificate with their name spelled incorrectly on it. Thanks. Pay rise? Soz, we're bankrupt.
And all those bods who stand at the podium giving the daily covid-19 news conferences will get gongs. >:( It's a fact. You've read it here.
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Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52732300)
What an extraordinary turn of events. So often in history the right person was in the right place at the right time, and so this time it is Captian Sir Tom Moore's turn.
Wholly deserved.
Trouble is, you can see the cynics in N° 10 sitting round and saying "what'll play well with the punters and not cost anything? I know, let's give that walker bloke a K".
Is it?
I know people who have spent a lifetime of selfless service to the country and never received anything to mark their efforts, despite applications being made, an old bloke walks up and down his garden, people go crazy for a distraction and the next minute he's being knighted.
The whole bloody system is a joke, Why don't they just make him sodding king next and be done with it.
I see your point. He did raise a £33 million for the NHS, though. Maybe an MBE? Hell, the Beatles got that, and McCartney got a whole K.
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To be pedantic, he raised money for NHS charities and not the NHS. I'm sure I pay a big hunk of tax to support the NHS (which is how it should be, healthcare shouldn't be a charitable provision).
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To be pedantic, he raised money for NHS charities and not the NHS. I'm sure I pay a big hunk of tax to support the NHS (which is how it should be, healthcare shouldn't be a charitable provision).
+1
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To be pedantic, he raised money for NHS charities and not the NHS. I'm sure I pay a big hunk of tax to support the NHS (which is how it should be, healthcare shouldn't be a charitable provision).
I wonder how many CEOs of those charities are on six-figure salaries? Just askin'.
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Tbh, I imagine running any major national or international charity is a significant job with extensive responsibilities, so I don't think a modest six-figure salary is that unreasonable.
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To be pedantic, he raised money for NHS charities and not the NHS. I'm sure I pay a big hunk of tax to support the NHS (which is how it should be, healthcare shouldn't be a charitable provision).
Looking at the functions of NHS charities (https://www.nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/what-we-do/), it looks as if they're doing things that the NHS should be doing anyway.
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I'm sure he's a nice bloke and good on him, but he's still being cynically used.
You were right!
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Tbh, I imagine running any major national or international charity is a significant job with extensive responsibilities, so I don't think a modest six-figure salary is that unreasonable.
They (the CEOs) are not running those organisations, they are just figureheads who sign off
any expenses claims.
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Tbh, I imagine running any major national or international charity is a significant job with extensive responsibilities, so I don't think a modest six-figure salary is that unreasonable.
They (the CEOs) are not running those organisations, they are just figureheads who sign off
any expenses claims.
You are thinking of board Chairpersons.
The CEO actually runs the company.
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Captain Tom’s daughter says family kept £800,000 from his books (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/11/capt-tom-moore-daughter-says-she-kept-800000-his-books-made-on-his-wishes).
Democratic Ruthless Bastards Party Health Warning: article contains traces of colossal bellend Piers “Morgan” Moron.
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They were strange days..
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Maybe Captain Tom wasn't as cuddly and innocent as he seemed either... Or maybe the family are just ruthless grabbing grifting bastards...
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Maybe Captain Tom wasn't as cuddly and innocent as he seemed either... Or maybe the family are just ruthless grabbing grifting bastards...
Captain Tom was ruthlessly exploited by his family and a cynical, corrupt government.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67099214
A few mistakes along the way, apparently. Beginning to look careless.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67099214
A few mistakes along the way, apparently. Beginning to look careless.
I'm sure it was all inadvertent... just like Sunak's corruption and fraud.
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They've got a nerve saying the books were never part of the charity campaign. The guy was known for one thing and one thing only - raising money for charity, so there would be an immediate assumption that anything sold in his name would be linked to that end.
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They've got a nerve saying the books were never part of the charity campaign. The guy was known for one thing and one thing only - raising money for charity, so there would be an immediate assumption that anything sold in his name would be linked to that end.
And the preface to his memoir, penned by him, effectively said the money raised would be going to charity:
Astonishingly at my age, with the offer to write this memoir I have also been given the chance to raise even more money for the charitable foundation now established in my name.
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The
sex pond complex spa is rather harder to defend.
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(https://media.tenor.com/90O-07ZspXEAAAAC/father-ted-resting-in-my-account.gif)
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Maybe Captain Tom wasn't as cuddly and innocent as he seemed either... Or maybe the family are just ruthless grabbing grifting bastards...
I've seen no evidence to suggest that Tom Moore was in any way corrupt or less than he seemed, and if you have such evidence please produce it - or give your reasons for wishing to implicate him as 'not as cuddly and innocent as he seemed'.
On the other hand there were several rumours about Hannah Ingram-Moore being far too in love with celebrity and status from the early days of Tom's fundraising, and the handling of the charity's business since his death has raised eyebrows and suspicions in several observers, at least in terms of its incompetence. While I don't doubt that Tom did indeed intend the proceeds from some of his works to go to the family after his death, it's surely not beyond the wit of the executors to ensure that all such gifts were above board and squeaky clean. As for the 'spa', there seems to be no actual evidence of its purported purpose for use by the community or the disabled, and - again - the handling of the planning and construction appears to have been at best incompetent.
Thank goodness the £39m raised by Tom went straight to NHS Charities.
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I would prefer that the NHS did not rely on charity.
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I would prefer that the NHS did not rely on charity.
It's against the rules to spend donated money on anything to do with actual patient care.
It can only be used for extras, like books and stuff.
https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/nhs-tayside-will-repay-27m-charity-funds-spent-systems/governance/article/1462090
https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/scottish-government-urged-investigate-nhs-boards-use-charitable-funds/governance/article/1461209
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I would prefer that the NHS did not rely on charity.
Captain Tom’s fundraising was for ‘NHS Charities Together’ not the NHS. NHS Charities Together definitely supports the NHS, but as I understand it no part of the NHS’s remit is dependent on charitable donations. Even if the NHS was funded (and managed) well, there would still be a need for support to provide things the NHS will never be funded to provide, and to support staff in ways that a patient-centred budget can’t.
https://nhscharitiestogether.co.uk/about-us/who-we-are/
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It's against the rules to spend donated money on anything to do with actual patient care.
File under "today I learned". Though obviously it doesn't preclude the NHS refusing to fund certain necessary things and charities picking up the slack. Wheelchairs, for example.
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How few people who donated can have known exactly what their money would be used for!
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Interesting debate but in the end the problem comes down to the usual human frailty: greed.
I have in my more youthful years raised money for charities such as Guide Dogs and for cot death research and support (Lullaby Trust) and it has never occurred to me that people are giving their money for anything but the cause. Each time I have managed to raise a number of thousands which at the time I considered a lot of money given my personal circumstances but not once did I feel that I was entitled to a single penny of it.
I am no saint so I should not really pass judgement but it is difficult not to do so.
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How few people who donated can have known exactly what their money would be used for!
When I donated I received an email from NHS Charities Together explaining exactly who they were and how the donations would be used.
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Charity to be closed down, according to the Mirror.
The planning appeal over the L-shaped sex pond complex goes on.
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Captain Tom Moore's son-in-law's companies 'go bust owing £3.7 million in taxes and to small businesses'
(https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/captain-tom-moore-son-in-law-companies-bust-owing-millions/)
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Captain Tom Moore's son-in-law's companies 'go bust owing £3.7 million in taxes and to small businesses'
(https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/captain-tom-moore-son-in-law-companies-bust-owing-millions/)
Although the two companies listed in the article were dissolved in 2009 and 2016, well before Covid and Covid inspired charity events
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It doesn’t look good on CV, now does it?
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It explains why the family might have had an incentive to exploit the late Captain.
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Sex pond appeal has failed. Bulldozers at 5 o'clock!*
* may contain elements of dramatisation
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Metro has the best headline.
https://twitter.com/hannahrosewoods/status/1721823401919021226?s=20
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There's a Spa Man
Waiting in the sky
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52994407681_656c0de7d8_o.png)
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Orchestration by Hans Zimmer?
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V. good. ;D
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Credit to Larrers for setting it up!
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From that Twitter:
J'accuzi
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From that Twitter:
J'accuzi
Émile Zola walt. ;D
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/1608/24765436966_85efc368aa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DJrkAw)
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Sex pond to be demolished (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-67802607). Captain Tom's family not pursuing High Court appeal to keep spa.
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I wonder where the legal fees came from?
If I were them, I'd downsize anyway for (a) cash and (b) because the neighbours must now hate them
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Demolition has started..
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/demolition-captain-tom-family-spa-b2483264.html)
Ms Ingram-Moore said she had “regret” over the building of a spa and pool complex at their home. “We have to accept that we made a decision, and it was probably the wrong one,” she said.
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Dulux paint? The bourgeois swine. I buy Johnstone's cheap swill.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68204446
There goes the sex pond complex. Took them a fortnight to get cracking.
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Friends of mine living nearby were discussing whether it was worth going to watch with a picnic and popcorn :demon:
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As Chair of the Planning Committee it made my heart skip a little... :thumbsup:
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As Chair of the Planning Committee it made my heart skip a little... :thumbsup:
Too easy
One of the few times planning hasn't been fucked over....
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As Chair of the Planning Committee it made my heart skip a little... :thumbsup:
Yeah it’s fun. Being on Parish planning. (we don’t have a planning committee, on account of wanting to get all cllrs on board with a key responsibility.)
But, as I reminded them at tonight’s meeting, we have no more weight in the planning process than a member of the public.
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As Chair of the Planning Committee it made my heart skip a little... :thumbsup:
I thought you were taking bisoprolol for that.
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I wonder where the legal fees came from?
If I were them, I'd downsize anyway for (a) cash and (b) because the neighbours must now hate them
Well predicted! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68896140 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-68896140)
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A waggish estate agent would list it as "desirable detached property, spa-free".