Author Topic: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again  (Read 9329 times)

Auntie Helen

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #25 on: 03 September, 2023, 06:55:52 am »
[Insert Brexit-related swearing noises inspired by the HPVelotechnik and AZUB websites]
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rogerzilla

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #26 on: 03 September, 2023, 06:57:50 am »
Guess at mileage?
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T42

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #27 on: 03 September, 2023, 08:25:26 am »
Bugrit. Sympathies, Kim.

I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

Paul

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #28 on: 03 September, 2023, 09:42:34 am »
I’m sorry for your loss.

Was that cable tie too tight?
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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #29 on: 03 September, 2023, 10:58:36 am »
Cheers, Kim!

Kim

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #30 on: 03 September, 2023, 11:02:41 am »
Was that cable tie too tight?

I'm reasonably sure the cable tie is coincidental (it's only holding a bundle of dynamo cables, and didn't appear to be concealing any abrasive/corrosive grit).  The crack runs between the end of the seat bracket and the bottle cage braze-on, at the point where the frame is presumably under the greatest stress.  I always thought that if it were going to fail it would be around the headset, but this makes more sense.

alfapete

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #31 on: 03 September, 2023, 11:17:20 am »
Was that cable tie too tight?
No, it was holding the bike together from the last time this happened.
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Kim

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #32 on: 03 September, 2023, 11:29:11 am »
Was that cable tie too tight?
No, it was holding the bike together from the last time this happened.

I thought the bottle cage was holding the bike together on the way home, but sadly that wasn't the case (both braze-ons are the same side of the crack).

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #33 on: 03 September, 2023, 09:30:53 pm »
You should always carry half a dozen cable ties for events like this. Commiserations Kim. Any thoughts what you'll do with the cracked frame? Some sort of mechanical art project?
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Kim

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #34 on: 03 September, 2023, 09:42:27 pm »
I've spent much of the afternoon reducing the bike to its components parts, vis:
a) likely to be used on the replacement
b) unlikely to be used on the replacement, but useful spares for other bikes in the fleet
c) might be useful to someone else one day, perhaps in a somewhat bizarre set of circumstances
d) scrap

This was a great deal more depressing that I expected it to be.  I'm not particularly attached to the bike as a physical object - my current frustration coming from the effort and expense inherent in replacing it - but nearly everything I removed was either an original part that had served admirably well and will now be retired, or something I'd tweaked and changed and adapted in some way and had its own story.

The other thing that struck me was the sheer number of cable-ties I ended up removing, though rather uninterestingly the vast majority of them had been tying cables.

Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #35 on: 04 September, 2023, 07:33:00 am »
Commiserations kim.  Hoping that you can find a suitable replacement ASAP  :)
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T42

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #36 on: 04 September, 2023, 07:55:57 am »
Once saw a bloke on a 200k turn up at a control with a broken seat tube.  They shoved a bit of tree down it and he finished. Different force vectors on a recumbent, though.
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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #37 on: 04 September, 2023, 08:09:10 am »
That is sad.

Two things I remember about that machine on that Tan Hill ride; the awkwardness of fixing a puncture, and you 'gravel tracking' on a recumbent.
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zigzag

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #38 on: 04 September, 2023, 08:59:51 am »
that's a bummer. it is however repairable, at the right workshop. it would also cost a fraction of the new/replacement one.

Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #39 on: 04 September, 2023, 09:23:48 am »
Commiserations.
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LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #40 on: 04 September, 2023, 09:28:54 am »
This does give the opportunity to try a different recumbent, which can be fun in itself and gets rid of the worn difficult-to-replace components that are par for the course with old dual-suspension machines.
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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #41 on: 04 September, 2023, 11:32:01 am »
Yes, I'm giving serious consideration to the AZUB Six, which is an equally competent touring machine that has actually seen some innovation in the last decade.  (I get the distinct impression that HPVelotechnik would rather be making trikes and Grasshoppers, and keep the Streetmachine and Speedmachine going purely because people keep wanting to buy them.)  Last time I met one I decided I preferred HPVelotechnik's handlebar ergonomics, which trumps most other considerations.

Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #42 on: 04 September, 2023, 12:27:36 pm »
Once saw a bloke on a 200k turn up at a control with a broken seat tube.  They shoved a bit of tree down it and he finished. Different force vectors on a recumbent, though.
You should always carry half a dozen cable ties for events like this. Commiserations Kim. Any thoughts what you'll do with the cracked frame? Some sort of mechanical art project?

If it had been an e-recumbent you could have used the battery to weld a repair by the side of the road. My ex-boss, who once specialised in forestry tractors, said that two norwegian brothers in the Landes after the great tempest had a tractor much welded together that they did on site with the welding cables directly connected to the battery. OTOH a lead acid battery is probably better suited to being short-circuited like that. A lithium battery (or accumalator as I suppose people will tell that is wot I mean) would probably do a good impression of a firework show!

Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #43 on: 04 September, 2023, 05:59:23 pm »
Going by the design and quality of build of my azub tricon gr a two wheel recumbent built by them seems a good option  :)
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Kim

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #44 on: 04 September, 2023, 06:55:25 pm »
Going by the design and quality of build of my azub tricon gr a two wheel recumbent built by them seems a good option  :)

Indeed.  Though I'm sure a Scorpion would fare equally well on build quality, you'd go about half the speed on one on account of HPVelotchnik's general inability to keep the weight down.

IIRC Woollypigs OTP has a Six, and is very happy with it.  What puts me off (apart from the handlebar position and general familiarity with the foibles of Streetmachines) is that none of the UK AZUB dealers seem to carry demo models of the bikes, and my ability to get a foot down is marginal enough that I'm disinclined to buy one without having had a proper fiddle with the seat/bars adjustment and test ride.

I also think the HPVelotechnik luggage racks are substantially less fugly (I'm unlikely to ever need the ability to carry six panniers), I prefer the simplicity of direct steering and - until someone[1] works out how to drive an E-14 actuator without an electric assist system - their custom Rohloff shifter seems to be the least worst option[2] (though I could probably obtain it as a spare part if necessary).


[1] Preferably not me, unless someone wants to donate a suitably equipped e-bike for reverse-engineering purposes :)
[2] I detest grip shifters, but you can't drive a Roholff with a bar-end, and trigger shifters via a widget aren't ideal with USS.

Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #45 on: 04 September, 2023, 07:10:12 pm »
https://www.nextstopwhere.com/2017/04/17/azub-vs-streetmachine/


A comparison of the 2 bikes here.  You've probably seen it, but it may be useful to others.
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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #46 on: 04 September, 2023, 07:20:50 pm »
https://www.nextstopwhere.com/2017/04/17/azub-vs-streetmachine/


A comparison of the 2 bikes here.  You've probably seen it, but it may be useful to others.

Yep.  Worth noting the age of the article, and that both bikes are being equipped with different components now.  Also the lowrider-mounted kickstand has always worked well for me (soft ground and sandals notwithstanding), so I suspect they got one that was the wrong length.

Pingu

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #47 on: 04 September, 2023, 08:23:32 pm »
A couple of cable ties and other bits of plastic is what you need.


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Kim

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Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #48 on: 28 February, 2024, 04:58:46 pm »
After several earth months[1], I have news that a SMGTe with my name on it has arrived in Glasgow.  Just to give the smug Ribble customers some perspective  ;D


[1] A wise man once said that if we do things by the book, hours would seem like days.  It appears that HPVelotechnik do things by the book.

Re: n-1: Crack of Doom strikes again
« Reply #49 on: 28 February, 2024, 06:18:47 pm »
 :thumbsup:
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