Author Topic: Solid wall buildings part elebenty - alternatives to lath and plaster (Read 48825 times)

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #75 on:** 05 April, 2016, 07:55:47 pm »

The nail pr0n is proving popular - Pingu only just added to Flickr and it's been favourited twice already!
There are a few photos, not sure if they are any good so if you click through to Flickr through this one you will be able to go back and forward through them and see for yourself.

IMG_3916 by The Pingus, on Flickr

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #76 on:** 05 April, 2016, 08:12:28 pm »

I've sent a linky to the experts, don't be shy about pulling a nice one out, thobut.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #77 on:** 05 April, 2016, 08:26:35 pm »

Next question - what does one do with the wooden bead when decorating?

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #78 on:** 06 April, 2016, 02:38:24 pm »

Paint it.

You could use Farrow and Ball "Flat White" or lime wash with casein mixed in.

Plain lime wash won't stick to timber. It might look like it does when you first paint it on, but turn your back on it and it'll throw itself all over the floor.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #79 on:** 06 April, 2016, 05:36:26 pm »

I believe I can't use lime wash to paint the whole room because 2 walls of it is still gypsum skimmed (I wasn't volunteering to scrape anymore off than I did because they're internal walls and it took long enough to get the stuff off that I did already) and I read that you can't lime wash gypsum, is that correct?
I didn't realise F&B Estate emulsion is as vapour permeable as the Earthborn Claypaint....strokes chin...

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #80 on:** 06 April, 2016, 05:52:52 pm »

65 quid for 5L, maybe not!

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #81 on:** 06 April, 2016, 05:57:53 pm »

You can lime wash new gypsum plaster if you mix casein in with the lime wash. I did that on the brick wall between a bedroom and bathroom.

You won't get lime wash to stick to emulsion though. But you can get a flat white emulsion from Travis Perkins or other regular builders merchants called Contractors Matt, which looks like lime wash and is as cheap as chips. It won't stick to lime plaster or lime wash and you really shouldn't be naughty and try that either, as you're now a fully paid up member of the crumbly building conservation club.

So you need to select your paint for the material you wish to cover.

By all means spend loads of money on paints with fancy names, if it floats your boat. I would rather spend it on gin though.

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #82 on:** 06 April, 2016, 06:01:56 pm »

And tonic.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #83 on:** 06 April, 2016, 06:33:37 pm »

Well of course.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #84 on:** 08 April, 2016, 12:44:49 pm »

So the builders have been back again and I'm surprised that the plasterboard wasn't wetter there.

I suspect that vent is not really meant to be used that way up. Any suggestions for a better solution that doesn't just let the rain right through to the inner wall appreciated:

Gratuitous cat shot

IMG_4026_01 by The Pingus, on Flickr

plaster_01 by The Pingus, on Flickr

IMG_4023_01 by The Pingus, on Flickr

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #85 on:** 08 April, 2016, 12:53:11 pm »

You've got lovely lath Mrs. P.

Nice to see the vent, is it on the rainy side of the building ?

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #86 on:** 08 April, 2016, 01:12:23 pm »

Why thank you

It's on the rainy side of the building - this is the same wall we've just had pointed. There is another building a couple of feet across from this wall, but in this corner there will be not much protection afforded by that.

I know we don't want to block it up but is there anything we can do to stop the rain coming straight in and blowing on my lovely new plaster when it arrives? A few judiciously placed chunks of rock to make the path of the wind and rain a bit more twisty?

Having said that the lath looks ok round the hole.....

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #87 on:** 08 April, 2016, 01:20:36 pm »

Is the stone wall wet inside when it rains, because it might not be causing a problem ?

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #88 on:** 08 April, 2016, 02:05:14 pm »

I guess we will find that out next time it rains now we have a window to look through....

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #89 on:** 08 April, 2016, 05:14:52 pm »

Just got home to see it for myself. Cor! it's a bit draughty!

Canardly · « **Reply #90 on:** 08 April, 2016, 05:33:36 pm »

There used to be shaped insulated internal sleeves available for standard air bricks (e.g. stadium) which allowed ventilation and the passage of moisture, a dew point to occur within the two halves of the shaped insulation which allowed any condensation to leave externally but which kept the drafts down internally. If I can find a link will post. The air brick would however be positioned on the other axis to that shown in the photo.

Pingu · « **Reply #91 on:** 09 April, 2016, 10:52:44 pm »

Quote from: Aunt Maud on 08 April, 2016, 12:53:11 pm

You've got lovely lath Mrs. P.

Oi! Are you lookin' at my bird's lath?

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #92 on:** 16 April, 2016, 05:29:01 pm »

Went into the wash house y'day and noted that some lath had appeared. Work starts again on Monday. Haven't quite known what to do with myself with nothing going on this week.

Tell you what, it's bloody draughty in here with this wind today!

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #93 on:** 18 April, 2016, 11:42:23 am »

I bet it's cold. We're still on two wood burners, with one going constantly and CH twice a day.

There's hope though. The Rowan outside the window has extra large buds, so warm weather is on the way.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #94 on:** 18 April, 2016, 04:36:48 pm »

Question - how long do I need to keep my cats away from the new plaster?
(The plasterer came and went while I was at work)

First coat is up, photos later perhaps.

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #95 on:** 18 April, 2016, 04:43:14 pm »

As long as they don't get any in their eyes or eat it, they should be ok with it as it is now.

Are they likely to want to rub up against it?

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #96 on:** 18 April, 2016, 05:01:39 pm »

Everything has to get sniffed so I imagine there's a fair chance of nose contact unless they find the smell offensive from afar.

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #97 on:** 18 April, 2016, 05:06:35 pm »

Should be ok, I can't imagine they would do more than sniff it.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #98 on:** 18 April, 2016, 06:50:06 pm »

Next question while I try to establish comms with the plasterer - how long does it need to cure between coats?
Am wondering if I can move some stuff back to watch telly in the eve.... don't have a clue when he'll be back.

Also, what on earth is it with tradespeople and their inability to put carpet protection down?

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #99 on:** 18 April, 2016, 08:13:12 pm »

It'll be ok to put stuff in front of it, as he's only done the scratch coat, which will dry pretty quickly with the wind.

As for the carpet, I don't know why people don't do that or clean up after themselves. It's one of life's great mysteries, but you should get him to do it next time he comes.