Author Topic: Solid wall buildings part elebenty - alternatives to lath and plaster (Read 48809 times)

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #100 on:** 18 April, 2016, 09:47:21 pm »

Kim · « **Reply #101 on:** 18 April, 2016, 11:51:54 pm »

Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 18 April, 2016, 04:36:48 pm

Question - how long do I need to keep my cats away from the new plaster?

Depends how much you like pawprints, I suppose...

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #102 on:** 19 April, 2016, 07:30:53 am »

That looks really nice now and you've managed to keep the run moulding around the ceiling in one piece.

What's the plan for the fireplace ?

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #103 on:** 19 April, 2016, 09:47:13 pm »

Quote from: Kim on 18 April, 2016, 11:51:54 pm

Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 18 April, 2016, 04:36:48 pm
Question - how long do I need to keep my cats away from the new plaster?

Depends how much you like pawprints, I suppose...

I actually meant in terms of how long it would be caustic. Like my wit

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #104 on:** 19 April, 2016, 09:54:24 pm »

Quote from: Aunt Maud on 19 April, 2016, 07:30:53 am

That looks really nice now and you've managed to keep the run moulding around the ceiling in one piece.

What's the plan for the fireplace ?

That's all coming out. Black slate hearth going in. Plain skimmed front and an oak beam on the top.

Plasterer filled my Dyson tube with wet plaster.

Had a flipping nightmare tonight trying to find the gas pipe before it goes into the fireplace, as the gas man is coming to cut it back on Thursday. Can't wait for it all to be over.

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #105 on:** 20 April, 2016, 04:44:14 pm »

Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 19 April, 2016, 09:47:13 pm

Quote from: Kim on 18 April, 2016, 11:51:54 pm
Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 18 April, 2016, 04:36:48 pm
Question - how long do I need to keep my cats away from the new plaster?

Depends how much you like pawprints, I suppose...
I actually meant in terms of how long it would be caustic. Like my wit

It's caustic for ever, so watch your eyes and try not to flick it around too much.

That plasterer chappy sounds a right one.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #106 on:** 20 April, 2016, 06:00:40 pm »

Yeah, they still didn't put anything down on the carpet despite being asked to. Have bought myself a roll of Roll & Stroll.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #107 on:** 25 April, 2016, 10:17:03 pm »

Next stupid question...

At the sides of my current fireplace are some knackered gypsum and some sort of allegedly waterproof plaster. My stove installer did originally quote for plastering round the fireplace but that was before I decided to get the whole wall lime skimmed so my plan is instead to get the lime plasterers to put new lath beside the fireplace and then 3 coat lime plaster after the stove is in.

Before I go telling the stove installer I won't need him to plaster that bit can anyone see a flaw in my plan?

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #108 on:** 26 April, 2016, 10:06:03 am »

Has the old "Bling" fire surround thing been removed yet ?

If so post a photo.

Are you planning on plastering the whole of the inside of the fireplace and what does it look like ?

Don't you just love a question being answered with two questions.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #109 on:** 26 April, 2016, 03:10:04 pm »

No, the stove installer is going to do it on Friday (nothing being removed until the cats have been packed off to borstal for the day).
I can't remember if the inside is going to be all rendered or a brick back. I don't really have a strong preference either way TBH.
I don't know what it looks like as it hasn't been done yet? Unless I misunderstood your question....

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #110 on:** 26 April, 2016, 03:56:31 pm »

Well the reason I asked was that if there is the remnants of an old fireplace in there which has soot on it, the soot will bleed through any plaster that you put over it.

Even if the bricks are cleaned off, it's amazing how little soot it takes before it starts to show.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #111 on:** 26 April, 2016, 05:23:26 pm »

Ah. I dare say the answer to that will turn out to be yes. I suppose I could just wait and see how big the opening ends up and measure the distance to combustibles...

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #112 on:** 26 April, 2016, 08:12:01 pm »

Ballsbumpoopiss. Looks like the Sqrl requires 600 mm clearance to combustibles. That's almost half the entire width of the chimney breast, so that's not likely. Guess I will be having some evil modern fireproof board at the sides of the opening

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #113 on:** 26 April, 2016, 08:43:04 pm »

You could always have just bricks on the inside and plaster the front around the opening.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #114 on:** 26 April, 2016, 09:01:50 pm »

Plaster directly onto the stone?
I'm thinking that plaster onto the hard allows the passage of salts, but read that metal lath is a bit crap to plaster onto...

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #115 on:** 27 April, 2016, 05:49:53 am »

Yep, you can plaster straight onto stone or brick.

It needs to be clean though and you need a fatty lime, so it sticks.

The thing with building, and I fall into the trap all the time, is it's easy to read too much about it and overthink it. I've found it's best to be pragmatic and just do it and see if it works.

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #116 on:** 27 April, 2016, 04:47:59 pm »

Yes, easy to do if you're doing it yourself, not the same when you're paying to get a man in.... Oh well I'll see what happens on Friday I spose

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #117 on:** 27 April, 2016, 06:20:31 pm »

Yeah, sorry it's easy for me to say.</doh!>

Your man should be able to recommend the ideal and historically correct solution.

Zipperhead · « **Reply #118 on:** 27 April, 2016, 11:26:57 pm »

I should just like to say that when the work is done and this thread withers that I shall miss it. I've been enjoying it.

And now back to your previously scheduled plastering program

Poly Hive · « **Reply #119 on:** 28 April, 2016, 07:53:49 am »

*Injects more life*

Ah but our stove was safely delivered to the installer yesterday, and so the cunning plan begins....

Met with the builder on Saturday and he knows what he has to do to make the cottage water tight from above. I am to dig and install the French drain around the building, and between stopping the ingress from above and stopping it from getting to the walls below, plus the stove we are very much looking forward to a very cosy dry winter.

Your help Mrs P in pointing us towards the surveyor has been invaluable. The difference between his report and the so called damp professionals was and is chalk and cheese so dear reader if you are tempted to take one of the national companies advice re damp in an old building then do please think again. We are saving thousands.

PH

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #120 on:** 28 April, 2016, 09:42:43 am »

Quote from: Zipperhead on 27 April, 2016, 11:26:57 pm

I should just like to say that when the work is done and this thread withers that I shall miss it. I've been enjoying it.

And now back to your previously scheduled plastering program

That's nice to know, I was thinking the other night that people might be thinking, get a room.....

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #121 on:** 28 April, 2016, 09:43:57 am »

Quote from: Poly Hive on 28 April, 2016, 07:53:49 am

*Injects more life*

Ah but our stove was safely delivered to the installer yesterday, and so the cunning plan begins....

Met with the builder on Saturday and he knows what he has to do to make the cottage water tight from above. I am to dig and install the French drain around the building, and between stopping the ingress from above and stopping it from getting to the walls below, plus the stove we are very much looking forward to a very cosy dry winter.

Your help Mrs P in pointing us towards the surveyor has been invaluable. The difference between his report and the so called damp professionals was and is chalk and cheese so dear reader if you are tempted to take one of the national companies advice re damp in an old building then do please think again. We are saving thousands.

PH

How are things on the paint removal front?

Poly Hive · « **Reply #122 on:** 28 April, 2016, 01:01:58 pm »

At the moment in limbo.

Had a poke and another poke at it over the weekend and it seems quite brittle so I am hoping that one of these will work....

Mechanical agitation. Power washing. Power wire brushing.

Time will tell on this one as the more important issues are to water proof the cottage from above and get the drain in to keep it dry from the bottom, then the coating can be tackled. The upper issues are in hand with the builder so by the time the stove goes in (late June) the ingress from above will be stopped permanently. On moving in (August hopefully) then I will start the drain.

PH

Mrs Pingu · « **Reply #123 on:** 28 April, 2016, 07:01:49 pm »

Ready for tomorrow by The Pingus, on Flickr

Shifted the mantlepiece, but not picking that lot up, it looks flipping heavy!

Aunt Maud · « **Reply #124 on:** 28 April, 2016, 08:17:05 pm »

That's a job for a hammer.