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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: SoreTween on 22 August, 2016, 08:43:58 pm

Title: Vuelta? - Sorry, I appear to be lost.
Post by: SoreTween on 22 August, 2016, 08:43:58 pm
I came here expecting a thread on the Vuelta.  Couldn't find it so I checked sporting life, not there either.  So I searched - nowt again.  I must be lost.

Am I the only one on here with a bursting desire to comment on how ridiculously, stupidly, insanely BONKERS the finish of todays stage was?  I'd prefer my rock boots to walk up that and just forget riding it at any speed with any gears.  How in the flibbity gibbett did they keep the front wheel in contact with the ground?
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Post by: David Martin on 22 August, 2016, 09:04:50 pm
By being much much lighter and stronger than most of us, methinks.
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Post by: Samuel D on 22 August, 2016, 09:06:48 pm
It was brutal alright. Not a good day to be someone with no discernible anaerobic burst, such as Contador.

Froome did very well, but this is the kind of finish that flatters him. Remains to be seen what his form will be like, especially as the race progresses and he inevitably comes down from his Tour/Olympics peak. I hope he doesn’t get sick, which is what my body would do if it tried to do what his is doing this year.
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Post by: jamesld8 on 22 August, 2016, 09:10:24 pm
great finish  :thumbsup:---grand tours seem to be in search of most steep / insane finishes currently ! Perhaps it`s not a real cycling test though but certainly opened up the GC
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Post by: Jabba on 23 August, 2016, 04:23:46 pm
Ahh La Vuelta, only the Spanish can love looking for those climbs that even Barbary Apes would wince at.  I seem to remember that the local TV producers also have a moto that shows the inclines as the riders are riding it!!  :facepalm: :facepalm:

I loved the Great D Millar's throwaway comment about it only being 1.8km and how it would take them 9-10 minutes because it was steep.  :o STEEP :o it was a blinking wall with extra bricks on top  :o ;D :o

I love La Vuelta
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Post by: mattc on 23 August, 2016, 07:29:21 pm
I'vereally enjoyed the Vuelta coverage in the last couple f years.

Not so excited this year; need a break from telly straight after the Olympics, and the evenings are too nice for telly watching.


But I'm sure I'll get into it!  (I'm Foreign Audaxing Sep 1-4th - hopefully it wont all  be over when I get back)
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Post by: mcshroom on 23 August, 2016, 07:57:21 pm
Ahh La Vuelta, only the Spanish can love looking for those climbs that even Barbary Apes would wince at.  I seem to remember that the local TV producers also have a moto that shows the inclines as the riders are riding it!!  :facepalm: :facepalm:

I loved the Great D Millar's throwaway comment about it only being 1.8km and how it would take them 9-10 minutes because it was steep.  :o STEEP :o it was a blinking wall with extra bricks on top  :o ;D :o

I love La Vuelta

ToB do it sometimes too. A couple years back they took the ride up Newlands Pass from Buttermere in the pouring rain which had the back of the pack walking up.
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Post by: Tim Hall on 24 August, 2016, 07:57:16 pm
On the FNRttC, one of the calls we have is "Bollard!" Looks like they could do with that in La Vuelta.
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Post by: spesh on 24 August, 2016, 08:36:38 pm
On the FNRttC, one of the calls we have is "Bollard!" Looks like they could do with that in La Vuelta.

Shades of the incident from last year's Tour of the Basque Country?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/riders-angry-after-high-speed-basque-country-crash
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Post by: Exit Stage Left on 24 August, 2016, 08:55:33 pm
Ahh La Vuelta, only the Spanish can love looking for those climbs that even Barbary Apes would wince at.  I seem to remember that the local TV producers also have a moto that shows the inclines as the riders are riding it!!  :facepalm: :facepalm:

I loved the Great D Millar's throwaway comment about it only being 1.8km and how it would take them 9-10 minutes because it was steep.  :o STEEP :o it was a blinking wall with extra bricks on top  :o ;D :o

I love La Vuelta

ToB do it sometimes too. A couple years back they took the ride up Newlands Pass from Buttermere in the pouring rain which had the back of the pack walking up.

They're going up 'The Struggle' this year.
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Post by: mattc on 26 August, 2016, 08:23:55 am
On the FNRttC, one of the calls we have is "Bollard!" Looks like they could do with that in La Vuelta.

Shades of the incident from last year's Tour of the Basque Country?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/riders-angry-after-high-speed-basque-country-crash
So Bollard-gate rumbled on a bit yesterday, but it seems that the (uninjured) riders are now past it, and focusing on the racing. GWS Mr Krosewick* .

I did enjoy the interview with his (dutch?) team-mate. It made SUCH a change to hear a forgiving attitude, following a heartfelt apology. You see Humans, it IS possible to make the best of things if you actually want to!


*(that might be spelt wrong)
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Post by: TheLurker on 26 August, 2016, 09:27:07 am
"Kruijswijk", but we all knew who you meant.

What did the team mate have to say?  Paraphrase would do if you haven't got a link to a transcript.

ETA.
Where is Mr. Larrington's penetrating analysis and summary of Yates S'. performance yesterday?

Come to that; where are his analyses and summaries of the stages so far?

Tsk, tsk. Not good enough Mr. Larrington, D for effort and take 100 lines; "I must not shirk my major stage race analysis and summarising duties if I know what's good for my health."
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Post by: mattc on 26 August, 2016, 10:32:00 am
[ ... stalls, while deeply hoping that someone will post a link to the relevant ITV4 catchup page...   ]

Yes, "Kruijswijk". well done!
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Post by: spesh on 27 August, 2016, 10:58:08 pm
Where is Mr. Larrington's penetrating analysis and summary of Yates S'. performance yesterday?

Come to that; where are his analyses and summaries of the stages so far?

Tsk, tsk. Not good enough Mr. Larrington, D for effort and take 100 lines; "I must not shirk my major stage race analysis and summarising duties if I know what's good for my health."

AFAIK, P@nd3m1c® Pr0duct10nz™ doesn't cover "chipper" races.  :demon:
Title: Re: Vuelta? - Sorry, I appear to be lost.
Post by: mattc on 28 August, 2016, 05:36:44 pm
"Kruijswijk", but we all knew who you meant.

What did the team mate have to say?  Paraphrase would do if you haven't got a link to a transcript.

Summat like:
Obs apologies dont fix K's injuries. But they are good to hear.
Its the first time we [the riders] have had an apology from organisers. To hear an honest apololgy, with regret, shows that they are thinking about what has gone wrong; so there is hope that they will fix things.

[meanwhile ...]
Contador's interview yesterday was interesting - he only seems to consider Froome as the man to beat.
And of course it was also interesting to see the Froom-omatic 3000 brain actually miscalculate his pacing.

It's game on ...
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Post by: David Martin on 28 August, 2016, 06:34:57 pm
And another red jersey holder. Looks like a cracking race so far with plenty of calculating for the breakaway going on.
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 August, 2016, 08:17:12 am
Froome appears to be annoying  Quintana by carefully riding his own race and not exhausting himself. Quintana has called for a ban on power meters, saying they make things 'unfair'. Not quite sure how, except that records from them might show when some riders are hanging on to motorbikes . . .

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Post by: David Martin on 31 August, 2016, 09:01:33 am
Maybe they should ban garmins and speedos, and notes of when key points are happening stuck to the handlebars.
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Post by: yoav on 03 September, 2016, 11:43:23 am
The peloton was 33 minutes behind the stage winner!

Just like the good old days :-)
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Post by: Andrew on 03 September, 2016, 12:05:05 pm
Maybe they should ban garmins and speedos, and notes of when key points are happening stuck to the handlebars.

They ride in speedos!  :o
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Post by: Andrij on 03 September, 2016, 02:53:19 pm
Maybe they should ban garmins and speedos, and notes of when key points are happening stuck to the handlebars.

They ride in speedos!  :o

That will involve a bit more shaving.
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Post by: TigaSefi on 03 September, 2016, 05:42:30 pm
Bloody good battle up Aubisque today!!
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Post by: TheLurker on 03 September, 2016, 08:08:54 pm
My, my.  That _was_ exciting.
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Post by: jamesld8 on 03 September, 2016, 08:11:13 pm
great stage indeed and Simon y was amazing in his ride to take so much time on GC contenders
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Post by: Samuel D on 04 September, 2016, 03:31:18 pm
Incredible scenes in Spain right now. Tune in if you haven’t.
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Post by: rafletcher on 04 September, 2016, 04:40:17 pm
Oh my!
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Post by: IanDG on 04 September, 2016, 04:41:31 pm
Think Sky got lost ;)
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Post by: De Sisti on 04 September, 2016, 07:38:09 pm
All Froome had to do was to sit on Quintana's wheel all the way to the time trial and then beat him by a couple
of minutes; or have I missed something?
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Post by: Ivo on 04 September, 2016, 07:49:30 pm
All Froome had to do was to sit on Quintana's wheel all the way to the time trial and then beat him by a couple
of minutes; or have I missed something?

Indeed, Froome missed something. He was caught sleeping at the start of the stage, just like his team. He's just plain lucky that the jury did bend the rules otherwise he would have to do without his teammates for the rest of the Vuelta. They were well and truly out of time.
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Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 September, 2016, 07:59:17 pm
God, that was a bit of a disaster!
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Post by: De Sisti on 04 September, 2016, 08:09:18 pm
Did his team forget to have their pasta meal the previous evening and missed breakfast?

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Post by: mcshroom on 04 September, 2016, 08:11:09 pm
As seen elsewhere, only those in green would have been starting tomorrow if the rules hadn't been bent: -

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crh5fH5WEAAFcal.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crh5fH5WEAAFcal.jpg)
(Click for bigness)
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Post by: Mrs Pingu on 04 September, 2016, 08:28:54 pm
Och, that happens regularly on the Tour, they call it the autobus :)
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Post by: Ivo on 04 September, 2016, 08:36:37 pm
As seen elsewhere, only those in green would have been starting tomorrow if the rules hadn't been bent: -

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crh5fH5WEAAFcal.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crh5fH5WEAAFcal.jpg)
(Click for bigness)

That would have been a real disaster, one team completely out, several others with only one man standing. And it would kill the Vuelta, Quintana having a nearly full team remaining so the jury has a point.
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Post by: Veloman on 04 September, 2016, 08:43:18 pm
And how many times have we seen AC do that before?  NQ realised (planned) to 'roll over' CF and it worked.

I would have thought Sky would have stuck to the NQ like glue, even from the start.
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Post by: jamesld8 on 04 September, 2016, 09:02:37 pm
indeed maybe complacency won the day ? or were team Sky just completely knackered after yesterday, whatever all credit to AC and NQ for setting race overall onfire and maybe burning all CF hopes of an overall win.
It was IMHO a complete Sky disaster, from what I saw majority of team just `gave up` after less than 20km. Let the initial break just build and build time gap
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Post by: drgannet on 05 September, 2016, 12:17:55 pm
That was one of the best weekends of grand tour racing I've ever watched.
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Post by: Riggers on 05 September, 2016, 12:41:49 pm
… and with spectacular scenery too!!!
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Post by: Riggers on 08 September, 2016, 11:00:56 am
What a stinker of a finish yesterday!!
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Post by: Russell on 10 September, 2016, 06:59:43 pm
Nice gesture from Froomey at the finish line today.  He tried but couldn't drop Quintana.  If he hadn't lost that time on stage 15 and been in the lead by 20 odd seconds following the time trial he may have struggled to retain the lead.