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Mr Larrington

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Re: New English?
« Reply #25 on: 22 July, 2008, 11:55:47 am »
Our current calibration specimen for 100% idiom is one Mr "Legs" Larrington.  I think I'd recognise his style anywhere  :D

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tiermat

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Re: New English?
« Reply #26 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:00:10 pm »
In regards to the OP, many years ago I managed a team of IT bods (a total of 12 at it's height, 6 by the time I left), and the "in" thing for them to do was to send emails in l33t txt spk.

After two warnings about doing so I refused to acknowledge any emails that contained such guff.

They soon realised that if they wanted me to sign off their expenses/approve leave/whatever then they had better use plain english...

Txt spk has its place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited (100 odd characters for an SMS doesn't really let you get a complex message across), but in a "professional" workplace on email, where the charge isn't by the letter, then use plain english, I don't want to have to spend 30 minutes looking at an email to try and work out just what the hell you mean by it!
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Re: New English?
« Reply #27 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:04:16 pm »
Txt spk has it's place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited

But there's no excuse for adding random apostrophes where they aren't necessary. :)

We just had an email about "Required Security Check's and clean desk policy's".
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

tiermat

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Re: New English?
« Reply #28 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:06:05 pm »
Txt spk has it's place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited

But there's no excuse for adding random apostrophes where they aren't necessary. :)

Random apostrophes, what random apostrophes? :)  I'll have you know that one was deliberately placed to catch out the inner Lynne Truss :)
I feel like Captain Kirk, on a brand new planet every day, a little like King Kong on top of the Empire State

Re: New English?
« Reply #29 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:18:26 pm »
Is this text speak below? I received it as part of an e-mail. Possible translation or maybe it is a computer translation already! much confused as no mention of Viagra :P. But someone was trying to sell me something but what was not revealed :D


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"100% PURE FREAKING AWESOME"

tiermat

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Re: New English?
« Reply #30 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:19:35 pm »
Is this text speak below? I received it as part of an e-mail. Possible translation or maybe it is a computer translation already! much confused as no mention of Viagra :P. But someone was trying to sell me something but what was not revealed :D


<snip>

No it's just random rubbish used to try and avoid spam traps
I feel like Captain Kirk, on a brand new planet every day, a little like King Kong on top of the Empire State

Re: New English?
« Reply #31 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:23:09 pm »
But my Googlemail trapped it
"100% PURE FREAKING AWESOME"

Re: New English?
« Reply #32 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:32:42 pm »
But my Googlemail trapped it

The text is added to bulk up the email to help defeat the Bayesian Spam Filters that some filtering software uses.

Googlemail uses more than one type of spam filter and tagged it as spam for any number of other reasons.
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Jaded

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Re: New English?
« Reply #33 on: 22 July, 2008, 12:55:44 pm »
The problem is that until relatively recently the only real variation in English was spoken, or handwritten. When you are speaking you can generally see/her if the other person has understood your lingo/jargon.

When you put your lingo/jargon up on a forum or in an email you don't get that feedback.

The real problem, however, is a mixture of laziness and ignorance. Laziness in not crafting typed text properly and ignorance in either not knowing you've made an error or in not caring.

We despair of literacy on this side of the pond, but in my experience it is US kids that are some of the most illiterate literate people on the planet.
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: New English?
« Reply #34 on: 22 July, 2008, 05:09:32 pm »
Shit, I outta go backta school.

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Re: New English?
« Reply #35 on: 22 July, 2008, 06:29:03 pm »
The real problem, however, is a mixture of laziness and ignorance. Laziness in not crafting typed text properly and ignorance in either not knowing you've made an error or in not caring.

Quite right - we should stamp out laziness in our postings. Perhaps we could start by removing all time-saving devices such as those irritating "smiley" things. Members would be forced to maintain their literacy levels, and intelligent, intelligible discussion would issue forth.
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Re: New English?
« Reply #36 on: 22 July, 2008, 06:40:23 pm »
the one I can't work out is YMMV.

Your mileage may vary - what works for me, may not work for you.
Abbreviated and idiomatic, no wonder I didn't get it!
I use "YMMV" a lot, but I wish there was a better abbreviation.

I think it has quite a precise meaning, e.g.
"I switched to the Michelin tyres which gave me 2mpg more. However, you drive on different roads and accelerate harder, so Your Mileage May Vary."

It is good for things that will be strongly affected by an individual's unique circumstances.

HTH !
Has never ridden RAAM
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Re: New English?
« Reply #37 on: 22 July, 2008, 10:59:24 pm »


Txt spk has its place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited (100 odd characters for an SMS doesn't really let you get a complex message across)...

My nearest and dearest sends text messages in immaculate English, in paragraphs.

Re: New English?
« Reply #38 on: 22 July, 2008, 11:02:38 pm »
My nearest and dearest sends text messages in immaculate English, in paragraphs.

As do I. The cost of it spanning a second text message is secondary.
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Jaded

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Re: New English?
« Reply #39 on: 23 July, 2008, 09:00:30 am »
My nearest and dearest sends text messages in immaculate English, in paragraphs.

As do I. The cost of it spanning a second text message is secondary.

If there is a cost at all nowadays...
It is simpler than it looks.

Julian

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Re: New English?
« Reply #40 on: 23 July, 2008, 09:29:38 am »


Txt spk has its place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited (100 odd characters for an SMS doesn't really let you get a complex message across)...

My nearest and dearest sends text messages in immaculate English, in paragraphs.

There's another way to do it?

???

Mr Larrington

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Re: New English?
« Reply #41 on: 23 July, 2008, 09:35:24 am »


Txt spk has its place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited (100 odd characters for an SMS doesn't really let you get a complex message across)...

My nearest and dearest sends text messages in immaculate English, in paragraphs.

There's another way to do it?

pprntly so lol
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Re: New English?
« Reply #42 on: 23 July, 2008, 11:05:39 am »


Txt spk has its place, i.e. where the bandwidth is limited (100 odd characters for an SMS doesn't really let you get a complex message across)...

My nearest and dearest sends text messages in immaculate English, in paragraphs.

There's another way to do it?

???

If it requires paragraphs I write. Wiv a pen.