Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 856944 times)

mattc

  • n.b. have grown beard since photo taken
    • Didcot Audaxes
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2700 on: 10 June, 2013, 12:25:06 pm »
I don't think "almost correct" is good enough for the contributors to this thread!
Has never ridden RAAM
---------
No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2701 on: 10 June, 2013, 01:26:32 pm »
I reckon we could use that construction for a few threads:
Cringe yourself pedantic
Rant yourself happy
Fettle yourself shiny
Ride yourself somewhere
Baton yourself woody
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

citoyen

  • Occasionally rides a bike
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2702 on: 10 June, 2013, 02:49:02 pm »
I reckon we could use that construction for a few threads:
Cringe yourself pedantic
Rant yourself happy
Fettle yourself shiny
Ride yourself somewhere
Baton yourself woody

 ;D

I particularly like "Fettle yourself shiny".
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Guy

  • Retired
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2703 on: 10 June, 2013, 03:51:39 pm »
I reckon we could use that construction for a few threads:
Cringe yourself pedantic
Rant yourself happy
Fettle yourself shiny
Ride yourself somewhere
Baton yourself woody
;D

I might be forced to nick that'n :thumbsup:
"The Opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject"  Marcus Aurelius

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2704 on: 10 June, 2013, 04:12:38 pm »
"St John's Ambulance"

Hint: http://www.sja.org.uk/sja/default.aspx
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

clarion

  • Tyke
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2705 on: 10 June, 2013, 04:13:18 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/FC939SwIsuE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/FC939SwIsuE&rel=1</a>
Getting there...

Wowbagger

  • Stout dipper
    • Stuff mostly about weather
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2706 on: 10 June, 2013, 06:28:16 pm »
Dunno if it's cringeworthy or more suitable for a full-on rant.

expedia.co.uk

Just what the @#~ :o%>} is "Travel yourself interesting" supposed to mean? :sick:

These days it seems possible to verb any noun.
Quote from: Dez
It doesn’t matter where you start. Just start.

hellymedic

  • Just do it!
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2707 on: 10 June, 2013, 06:50:46 pm »
Yebbut verbing weirds language innit?

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2708 on: 10 June, 2013, 09:53:04 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/FC939SwIsuE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/FC939SwIsuE&rel=1</a>
Do you think Bobb would like those red shorts?
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2709 on: 11 June, 2013, 08:08:11 am »
Um, before you move that to the "Spelling that makes you cringe" thread, can I just point out that the author of that quote is almost certainly dyslexic.
Quote from: tiermat
that's not science, it's semantics.

Guy

  • Retired
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2710 on: 11 June, 2013, 08:18:52 am »
Dunno if it's cringeworthy or more suitable for a full-on rant.

expedia.co.uk

Just what the @#~ :o%>} is "Travel yourself interesting" supposed to mean? :sick:

Thinking about this last night (sad, I know) I wonder if the EDL use the same advertising agency to come up with classic slogans like "SPORT ARE TROOPS" :facepalm:
"The Opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject"  Marcus Aurelius

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2711 on: 12 June, 2013, 10:40:03 am »
Grammarians that make you cringe:

A while ago I was on a proofreading course (not terribly useful as it turned out) and one of the attendees, who was using the course as an opportunity to plug her firm, mentioned that she had just moved to Folkestone and was standing in the county council elections there. She came across as a bit of a grammar peever, even more than might be expected in the context - she'd love some of this thread! I've just looked her up and she was standing for UKIP. Somehow I'm not surprised.
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

hellymedic

  • Just do it!
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2712 on: 12 June, 2013, 04:53:27 pm »
Yebbut it is possible to be a grammar pedant without being a racist bigot.
I believe.

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2713 on: 12 June, 2013, 04:55:27 pm »
It's also possible to be a UKIP candidate without being a racist bigot. I think.
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2714 on: 12 June, 2013, 05:06:09 pm »
Audaxers who keep saying they've been to "Menai" - there's no such place. The name of the town is "Porthaethwy".

 >:(

The town of 'Menai Bridge' doesn't exist?  Genuine q.
Working my way up to inferior.

mattc

  • n.b. have grown beard since photo taken
    • Didcot Audaxes
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2715 on: 12 June, 2013, 05:30:14 pm »
There are definitely road signs to "Menai Bridge" - but not "Menai", that I've seen anyway.

(Of course they may refer to the bridge itself.)

EDIT: Gmaps is convinced it's a place (on Anglesey). For what it's worth!
Has never ridden RAAM
---------
No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

Wombat

  • Is it supposed to hurt this much?
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2716 on: 12 June, 2013, 06:20:51 pm »
I always have been of the opinion that such signs did indeed refer to the bridge itself, as its a moderately wondrous thingy.  The mere concept of such a thing as a town, on Anglesey seems mildly amusing.  I suppose Holyhead sort of counts...
Wombat

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2717 on: 12 June, 2013, 06:57:56 pm »
Ordnance Survey maps say "MENAI BRIDGE / PORTHAETHWY".

And if you stick "LL59 5DD" into Royal Mail's Address finder then example addresses look like:-

Auckland Arms Hotel
13 Water Street
MENAI BRIDGE
LL59 5DD
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2718 on: 25 June, 2013, 01:31:00 pm »
"The Regional IT Support Analyst will respond to and resolute incidents involving Information Systems and related equipment used at the workplace."

The firm advertising has 2500 employees, & a turnover of several hundred million pounds.
"A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Type-Writer Girl, 1897

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2719 on: 25 June, 2013, 01:41:27 pm »
He will be resolute in finding a resolvsion?
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2720 on: 25 June, 2013, 07:45:58 pm »
Quote
English includes many words originally press-ganged from latin, which have changed their grammatical type.

‘Stamina’ and ‘agenda’ are two well-known ones, and ‘media’ is apparently becoming one. Separately from its botanical sense, a ‘stamen’ was the warp of a fabric, or figuratively some essential element of a thing; the word ‘stamina’ now refers to a completely different concept, which has no need, and no room, for a singular form – it makes no sense to speak of one of the things of which stamina is the plural.
Surely 'stamina' is singular (and uncountable)? As in "Stamina is what you need in long distance cycling." I'm not sure the author doesn't think so too, because he goes on to say:
Quote
We can even watch the word changing its grammatical ‘number’, from plural to singular. In the list of OED usages for this sense (3a) of ‘stamina’ – from ‘her stamina could not last much longer’ (the earliest, in 1726) to ‘his stamina is gone entirely’ (1834) – we see a century or so where the word is used in contexts where its number is ambiguous; and in the first case in this list where its number is clear, it is clearly singular, and the word is being used in its modern sense. The OED's last spotting of the relevant sense of ‘stamen’ used as a singular is in 1794.
A bit confusing. Not that it matters anyway!
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

mattc

  • n.b. have grown beard since photo taken
    • Didcot Audaxes
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2721 on: 25 June, 2013, 07:49:47 pm »
Isn't that 1726 example ambiguous?
Has never ridden RAAM
---------
No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

Cudzoziemiec

  • Ride adventurously and stop for a brew.
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2722 on: 26 June, 2013, 07:27:42 am »
Yes - that's what he says too.
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2723 on: 26 June, 2013, 12:13:38 pm »
From the Standard, is this correct? It certainly grates:
A quarter of all rush-hour traffic in central London is now bicycles...

The transport editor preferred this way of saying it (different article, same day):
The biggest ever census of bike use in the city reveals one in four road users during the morning rush hour is a cyclist
Quote from: tiermat
that's not science, it's semantics.

mattc

  • n.b. have grown beard since photo taken
    • Didcot Audaxes
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #2724 on: 26 June, 2013, 12:23:22 pm »
Well, as you mentioned 'grating':
the first does grate, but I don't think 'are' instead of 'is' would help. It's just an awkward phrase.

the 2nd grates too - _I_ would have written " are cyclists" - cos we know there are more than one. (It would be a stoopid census if there were exactly one IMHO).

(I have no idea of the 'correct' wording.)
Has never ridden RAAM
---------
No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles