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Title: Bagpuss
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 September, 2013, 10:06:54 am
I have just introduced Bagpuss to Martha. She is transfixed with the Mouse Mill episode.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Woofage on 12 September, 2013, 10:52:21 am
Is that the one where the mice make chocolate biscuits out of butterbeans etc?
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 12 September, 2013, 01:13:17 pm
Was Bagpuss pleased to meet your granddaughter?
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Vince on 12 September, 2013, 03:48:28 pm
Oh dear. This is how it starts, with the most Magical Saggy old cloth cat in the whole wide world. Next it will be irascible space creatures swearing. Then she'll be after the hard stuff, the Welsh train and The Nog.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 September, 2013, 07:43:58 pm
Was Bagpuss pleased to meet your granddaughter?

He just went to sleep.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2013, 09:12:01 pm
Is that the one where the mice make chocolate biscuits out of butterbeans etc?

Breadcrumbs and butterbeans!

<high pitched voices>

"More breadcrumbs and butterbeans!"
"Which do you want first, breadcrumbs or butterbeans?"
"Breadcrumbs first, then butterbeans!"

Bagpuss was probably my favourite TV show as a kid.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Biggsy on 19 September, 2013, 10:03:38 pm
Seems terribly melancholic to me.  Never watched it as a young kid.  We didn't have a TV until I was 10.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Clare on 19 September, 2013, 10:54:33 pm
Have you done the stinky stilton cheese one yet?

Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: citoyen on 20 September, 2013, 12:01:06 am

Have you done the stinky stilton cheese one yet?

Binglety, banglety, bonglety, bumpety, down the apples and pears!

;D
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: citoyen on 20 September, 2013, 12:05:20 am

Is that the one where the mice make chocolate biscuits out of butterbeans etc?

Chocolate biscuits? From breadcrumbs and butterbeans?
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Vince on 20 September, 2013, 06:56:33 am
Those mice were very good at their jobs!
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Tewdric on 20 September, 2013, 07:12:29 am
There are some fab young children's programmes on Cyw, the S4C kids programming, if you want to widen her linguistic diversity.  Available on demand on clic, the S4C player app.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Hot Flatus on 20 September, 2013, 07:17:48 am
I prefer to offer my kids a more realistic and balanced view of Wales and the Welsh and to that end I've been giving them a daily viewing of Ivor the Engine,
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: tiermat on 20 September, 2013, 09:07:11 am
I prefer to offer my kids a more realistic and balanced view of Wales and the Welsh and to that end I've been giving them a daily viewing of Ivor the Engine,

"F*** me!" says Evans the Steam "A talking train!"
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Vince on 20 September, 2013, 09:22:31 am
You know nothing! Ivor doesn't talk, just sounds his horn in in different notes to help Jones the Steam in the choir.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: citoyen on 20 September, 2013, 09:41:42 am
"F*** me!" says Evans the Steam "A talking train!"

You're thinking of Thomas the Tank Engine.

I loved the Rev.Awdry's books as a kid but I saw them again recently and realised they're actually pretty awful. Nice pictures though.

I still love Postgate's stuff.

Oh, and the original Emily is a near neighbour of mine.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 20 September, 2013, 11:18:05 am
Anyone who doesn't love Bagpuss is dead inside and shouldn't be trusted. Bagpuss, dear Bagpuss, old fat furry catpuss, baggy and a bit loose at the seams.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: tiermat on 20 September, 2013, 11:19:12 am
Anyone who doesn't love Bagpuss is dead inside and shouldn't be trusted. Bagpuss, dear Bagpuss, old fat furry catpuss, baggy and a bit loose at the seams.

Indeed, and I have to confess that Bagpuss rides shotgun in my car, us having found him hiding in a shop in Whitby.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 11:20:47 am
Bagpuss was probably my favourite TV show as a kid.

Doesn't surprise me at all.  What about Wombles?

Btw, EG, I'm dead inside and shouldn't be trusted.   I think Professor Yaffle gets too much of a hard time from the knownowts.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 20 September, 2013, 11:42:25 am
Bagpuss is the best kids TV in the whole wide world...
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 01:37:02 pm
Says someone who obviously never saw Pogle's Wood. </fondifdistantmemories>
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 20 September, 2013, 01:51:38 pm
Not old enough for Pogle's Wood  :smug:
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Clare on 20 September, 2013, 01:56:42 pm
<----- Remembers Pogle's Wood.

Bagpuss is miles better.

Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Vince on 20 September, 2013, 02:18:59 pm
I remember Pogles wood. I thought the witch was scary :(
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 02:53:28 pm
A Pedant Writes: Technically, the scary witch was inthe first series, which was entitled The Pogles.  The BBC received so many complaints about how scary it was, they never repeated it.  Pogle's Wood, i.e. the second series onwards, was a more bucolic format, less epic and (crucially) less scary.

But yeah, wasn't she? :o
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: pcolbeck on 20 September, 2013, 03:03:47 pm
Pogle's Wood is one of my treasured childhood memories. I think I loved everything Oliver Postgate ever did.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Vince on 20 September, 2013, 03:16:59 pm
Clarion, fair point, well made. In my defence I was only four at the time and watching on a grainy 405 line TV.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 03:48:38 pm
No excuses accepted.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Woofage on 20 September, 2013, 03:55:01 pm
I don't recall ever seeing The Pogles or Pogles' Wood, but The Clangers was my favourite prog as a small child.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 04:05:52 pm
Bet you don't remember Pingwings, either, which was the Smallfilms production before Pogles. ;)
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 20 September, 2013, 04:35:11 pm
I don't recall ever seeing The Pogles or Pogles' Wood, but The Clangers was my favourite prog as a small child.
Ditto. 100%.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Biggsy on 20 September, 2013, 06:17:47 pm
I liked the Clangers as a big child.  No, I wasn't on drugs; and neither were the makers, really.  As on adult on prescription drugs, I like In the Night Garden (http://youtu.be/HQ6zmKq5u3E?t=2m1s).
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Clare on 20 September, 2013, 06:50:03 pm
Does anybody else remember Romper Room?

As a pre-schooler it was brilliant, thinking back now it was crap.

Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: nicknack on 20 September, 2013, 07:13:28 pm
Never saw Bagpuss or Pogle's Wood. I may be too old. Noggin the Nog was my era.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 07:24:30 pm
Pogle predated Noggin.  Bagpuss was slightly later.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: nicknack on 20 September, 2013, 07:49:43 pm
Um, not according to my memory or Wikithing.

Noggin the Nog (1959-1965 remade in colour in 1970 and 1982 also for the BBC)
Pogles' Wood (1966–67)
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: L CC on 20 September, 2013, 08:01:34 pm
I found Bagpuss a bit, erm, dull tbh.

Ivor the Engine.  :thumbsup: There's DRAGONS.
Really I'm a Camberwick Green kinda gal, though.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 20 September, 2013, 08:30:56 pm
You're right, of course, Nicknack.  I'd forgotten the original Noggin.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Arch on 20 September, 2013, 09:09:10 pm

Have you done the stinky stilton cheese one yet?

Binglety, banglety, bonglety, bumpety, down the apples and pears!

;D

I had a CD of Bagpuss songs. If you listen carefully in that song (on that very line I think) you can hear all the singers giggling a little bit as they sing.

Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Arch on 20 September, 2013, 09:15:19 pm
Bagpuss was probably my favourite TV show as a kid.

Doesn't surprise me at all.  What about Wombles?

Btw, EG, I'm dead inside and shouldn't be trusted.   I think Professor Yaffle gets too much of a hard time from the knownowts.

The Wombles were alright, but not a favourite of mine as a kid. Smallfilms ruled, followed by Trumptonshire.

I was lucky enough to go to a screening of Noggin at City Screen, with live appearance by Peter Firmin. Oliver Postgate should have been there but was unwell. Still, I got to meet a real Clanger, and the lady who knitted them (Mrs Firmin), and thank Peter Firmin for my childhood.

BTW, Yaffle was apparently based on Bertrand Russell, who was a friend of the Postgate family.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: citoyen on 20 September, 2013, 09:18:21 pm

I had a CD of Bagpuss songs. If you listen carefully in that song (on that very line I think) you can hear all the singers giggling a little bit as they sing.

I bet! It always makes me smile.

My dad used to vaguely know Madeleine and Gabriel IRL. They're like proper serious folk musicians and everything.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Thor on 20 September, 2013, 10:27:22 pm
Does anybody else remember Romper Room?

As a pre-schooler it was brilliant, thinking back now it was crap.

I remember the Northern Ireland version but, apparently, there were others (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romper_Room#United_Kingdom).

Anyway, The Herbs was the best kids TV programme  :P
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Tewdric on 20 September, 2013, 11:48:28 pm
I raise you Trumpton.  And Dangermouse.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 21 September, 2013, 09:22:57 am
I went to a Fringe event a few years ago which was Phil Jupitus in conversation with Brian Cant, talking about Trumpton, Chigley and Camberwick Green, showing clips, and it finished with a whole episode chosen at random. When the opening credits of "this is a box, a musical box..." started, the whole audience did a sort of "ohhhhhhhhhhh" and I'm absolutely certain I wasn't the only one a bit damp around the eyes.

We watched an episode of Camberwick Green in which PC McGarry questioned Windy Miller about boys fishing without a permit, but Windy refused to grass them up, then he drank a lot of strong cider and fell asleep. Meanwhile, PC McGarry went off to question Mr Crockett the garage man, refuelled his police motorbike and then went off without paying. It's quite subversive really.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: sg37409 on 21 September, 2013, 09:25:59 am
number 452
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Vince on 21 September, 2013, 10:36:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf17YKJZv3w
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 21 September, 2013, 11:24:02 am
Roobarb and Custard. That was a bit surreal.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Butterfly on 22 September, 2013, 11:19:37 pm
The best song in Bagpuss is 'The Bony King of Nowhere', where they don't say bum.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: TimO on 23 September, 2013, 12:55:20 am
You haven't lived until you've watched Mr Benn, on an oscilloscope, in reverse video green and black, without the audio (we didn't have an easy way to extract the audio sub-carrier and demodulate it), so an entire lab full of people doing the words, because we all knew them so well. ;D
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Arch on 23 September, 2013, 10:14:39 pm
The best song in Bagpuss is 'The Bony King of Nowhere', where they don't say bum.

I love that too! ;D

Also, the bit where Yaffle tells the mice to just get on, and not sing, and a mouse replies, "Mice like to sing. Mice not sing, mice not work. Mice Strike!"

And when they push Charlie Mouse into the Ship in a Bottle, and Madeleine cries out about how they're hurting him, so they pull him out again, with a popping cork noise..

Actually. Just all of it.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Wowbagger on 23 September, 2013, 10:57:16 pm
Was Bagpuss pleased to meet your granddaughter?

He was asleep.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 23 September, 2013, 11:15:09 pm
Was Bagpuss pleased to meet your granddaughter?

He was asleep.
Maybe not the only one. ;D
Was Bagpuss pleased to meet your granddaughter?

He just went to sleep.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Paul on 23 September, 2013, 11:59:13 pm
When the opening credits of "this is a box, a musical box..." started, the whole audience did a sort of "ohhhhhhhhhhh" and I'm absolutely certain I wasn't the only one a bit damp around the eyes.

Yep. They repeated them all on tv a while back. I watched as many as I could, and I loved all those I saw, but the best bit was (as always) the opening sequence. Brian wove a little bit of magic into those words.

We watched an episode of Camberwick Green in which PC McGarry questioned Windy Miller about boys fishing without a permit, but Windy refused to grass them up, then he drank a lot of strong cider and fell asleep. Meanwhile, PC McGarry went off to question Mr Crockett the garage man, refuelled his police motorbike and then went off without paying. It's quite subversive really.

Didn't Windy also fall into a drunken stupor under the windmill?
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Paul on 24 September, 2013, 12:02:21 am
OT: Since it's okay to mention Pogle's Wood, can I chip in Hector's House and the Herb Garden?

I have the scantest memories of both, but it feels as though they were important. Isn't it amazing what sticks?
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: L CC on 24 September, 2013, 06:25:39 am
I went to a Fringe event a few years ago which was Phil Jupitus in conversation with Brian Cant, talking about Trumpton, Chigley and Camberwick Green, showing clips, and it finished with a whole episode chosen at random. When the opening credits of "this is a box, a musical box..." started, the whole audience did a sort of "ohhhhhhhhhhh" and I'm absolutely certain I wasn't the only one a bit damp around the eyes.

We watched an episode of Camberwick Green in which PC McGarry questioned Windy Miller about boys fishing without a permit, but Windy refused to grass them up, then he drank a lot of strong cider and fell asleep. Meanwhile, PC McGarry went off to question Mr Crockett the garage man, refuelled his police motorbike and then went off without paying. It's quite subversive really.
My children watched it with me a couple if years ago and said it was proper creepy. No2Daughter claimed she had windmill based nightmares.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 25 September, 2013, 11:09:43 am
I had windmill-based nightmares, once.  But that was because of the book, The Windmill Man, and its horrid illustrations.

I now love windmills. :)
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Arch on 25 September, 2013, 10:16:20 pm
I had windmill-based nightmares, once.  But that was because of the book, The Windmill Man, and its horrid illustrations.

I now love windmills. :)

Have you been to Holgate?

http://www.holgatewindmill.org/

It's brilliant when they've got the sails turning, a couple of times a month (not winter).  The feeling of power when the sails turn is amazing, and you can go right up and see the workings. And it's on a roundabout in a surburban street!
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: clarion on 26 September, 2013, 07:55:29 am
No, I haven't.  I'll make a point of it in future.
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Arch on 26 September, 2013, 10:10:05 pm
No, I haven't.  I'll make a point of it in future.

Well worth a visit, I think.

The funny thing is how it appears and disappears completely as you cycle to and from it. You'd think it would be visible from miles around, but it hides. 

The view from the top is superb - we think it's about level with the top of the Minster tower, but as it's on a hill, there aren't so many steps to climb to get up there.

(and it's not too far from the NRM, so that's a whole day taken care of!)
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: Kim on 26 September, 2013, 10:22:12 pm
The funny thing is how it appears and disappears completely as you cycle to and from it. You'd think it would be visible from miles around, but it hides.

Is it related to Drax power station?  :D
Title: Re: Bagpuss
Post by: LEE on 27 September, 2013, 11:30:08 am
Stand by for some overwhelming nostalgia (for the fifty-somethings among us)

I didn't realise that I knew this off by heart until now, nor how deep-rooted it is in me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTIWWupaaZE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTIWWupaaZE)