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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #750 on: 16 March, 2010, 05:34:25 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #751 on: 16 March, 2010, 06:10:03 pm »
From the same catalogue, however, WTF is 'Lifestyle seating'? :o

It's probably something you use to create a "lifestyle ambience", a preposterous phrase I heard used on some ridiculous home makeover programme a few years ago.

My son, who must have been about 6 or 7 at the time, misheard it as "lifecycle ambulance", which to be fair, makes just as much sense.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #752 on: 16 March, 2010, 06:26:37 pm »
Makeup will give you a makeover, then you can makeout with the accountant and makeoff with all the money.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #753 on: 16 March, 2010, 08:12:25 pm »
Actually better not hope some non-cyclist sees this, as I've got a feeling they could find a fair few pseudo-tecchie marketing phrases in our sport  :demon:
As in the word 'aero' being used to describe anything that looks streamlined, whether or not its been wind tunnel tested.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #754 on: 16 March, 2010, 08:14:44 pm »
I've just noticed 'Aqua' on the shampoo bottle, a mysterious ingredient that magically wets your hair.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #755 on: 16 March, 2010, 08:45:34 pm »
I saw this, and I thought of "you" :)

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #756 on: 16 March, 2010, 10:20:44 pm »
I've just noticed 'Aqua' on the shampoo bottle, a mysterious ingredient that magically wets your hair.
There was a tv advert a few years ago for some new moisturiser containing "aquaspheres." We assumed they meant "blobs of water."
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #757 on: 17 March, 2010, 05:37:59 pm »
I believe water is described as aqua in lists of chemical ingredients in line with some international standard.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #758 on: 17 March, 2010, 05:46:03 pm »
I believe water is described as aqua in lists of chemical ingredients in line with some international standard.

Yes - an international standard devised by the cosmetics industry to mislead consumers.

According to this, the purpose is "for the purchaser to reduce the risk of an allergic reaction to an ingredient the user has had an allergy to before", but it's hard to see how that argument applies to calling water anything other than water.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #759 on: 17 March, 2010, 09:56:52 pm »
I don't see how you could have an allergy to water. But I don't claim to know that for certain.

However, calling water "aqua" isn't entirely misleading - the same list is used in all languages,* as far as I can see, so a Latin word that will be vaguely familiar from school chemistry lessons is quite likely better than an English one that will be totally unfamiliar to many/most. Of course, they could just translate the list, as with food ingredients, but there are two problems with that: 1) most chemicals have no common name in any language 2) having the same list for all means you can recognise an ingredient you know you are allergic to, wherever you may be.

Then again, the fact they do translate for Cyrillic, Arabic, etc, counteracts the second point (I don't know to what extent it's actually a translation, I expect it's more a transliteration).

*that use the Roman alphabet.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #760 on: 17 March, 2010, 09:59:20 pm »
water has a name in every language I know.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #761 on: 17 March, 2010, 10:32:19 pm »
Takes a tube of toothpaste from the bathroom.
No ingredients list. Hmmm...
Takes a bottle of shampoo (made and bought in Poland).

Składniki:
Aqua, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Methylchloroisothiasolinone (and) Methylisothiasolinone, ACID Citric, Propylene Glycol Turnig Extract, Sodium Chloride, Parfum, Cocamide DEA

I bet most of those ingredients don't have a name in most languages.

But... While I can see the logic in such "worldese" as "aqua" and "parfum", why do we have "(and)" in English? Why is ACID in capitals? As far as I'm aware it's not an acronym. And should we be worried that if they can't check for typos such as "Turnig" - they mean turnip - there may be other, perhaps more important, misprints? And why in any case is "Turnip" in English - it must have a scientific name that could be used?

But this all pales into insignificance compared to the toothpaste. You put it in your mouth, you want to know what it's made of!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #762 on: 18 March, 2010, 09:58:56 am »
Does poland really have shampoo made out of turnips?  Fantastic  :)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #763 on: 18 March, 2010, 10:01:54 am »
Does poland really have shampoo made out of turnips?  Fantastic  :)

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #764 on: 18 March, 2010, 10:05:16 am »
It's supposed to be good for greasy hair. Or perhaps it's dandruff or something, I forget.

Anyway it occured to me the following kind of translated lists could be used:
Ingredients/Składniki: Water/Woda, Cocamidopropyle, Turnip Extract/Wyciąg z rzepaka, Camel fat/Tłuszcz z wielbłąda, ....

No, we don't actually have shampoo made from camel fat. But I'm sure it would be good for something!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #765 on: 18 March, 2010, 10:16:20 am »
It's supposed to be good for greasy hair. Or perhaps it's dandruff or something, I forget.

Anyway it occured to me the following kind of translated lists could be used:
Ingredients/Składniki: Water/Woda, Cocamidopropyle, Turnip Extract/Wyciąg z rzepaka, Camel fat/Tłuszcz z wielbłąda, ....

No, we don't actually have shampoo made from camel fat. But I'm sure it would be good for something!

That one, as it contains lemon juice.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #766 on: 18 March, 2010, 02:09:46 pm »
I don't see how you could have an allergy to water. But I don't claim to know that for certain.

There is a very rare condition that causes the skin to have an allergic reaction to water. Possibly not entirely relevant here since a person with that condition probably wouldn't be in a position to use shampoo anyway.

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Of course, they could just translate the list, as with food ingredients, but there are two problems with that: 1) most chemicals have no common name in any language 2) having the same list for all means you can recognise an ingredient you know you are allergic to, wherever you may be.

Mmm, maybe. I'm not convinced, but I'm not affected by any allergies so I don't know how it works in practice.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #767 on: 18 March, 2010, 02:15:46 pm »
Aquagenia umm, errr, aarrrgh I did know this. Severe histamine reaction...

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #768 on: 21 March, 2010, 09:18:24 pm »
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #769 on: 31 March, 2010, 04:51:38 pm »
Latest USAism that has made its way here; the dropped preposition.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #770 on: 31 March, 2010, 04:52:21 pm »
What's up that? :demon:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #771 on: 31 March, 2010, 04:54:16 pm »
The labels on the doors in the scout hut we stopped at on the FNRttC:

Scout's
Guide's
Beaver's
Cub's
Browneis

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #772 on: 31 March, 2010, 05:26:19 pm »
Brown eis, hmm, sounds distinctly NSFW!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #773 on: 06 April, 2010, 08:01:41 pm »
Alongside my hate of the misuse of 'less' and 'fewer', I would like to add the misuse of 'sex' and 'gender', and 'fertility' and 'fecundity'...  >:(

And why is it always the so-called 'experts' who use the wrong words?   >:( >:( >:(

Perhaps we shouldn't allow someone to get a PhD unless they can quote Fowlers by heart...   ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #774 on: 06 April, 2010, 10:59:31 pm »
...unless they can quote Fowlers by heart...   ;)

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