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The Pub / Re: A Random Thread For Astronomical Stuff.
« Last post by Jaded on Today at 01:46:06 am »
Jupiter and the moon.
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Racing / Re: Giro 2018
« Last post by Exit Stage Left on Today at 01:37:40 am »
Congratulations to Chris Froome and Team Sky. Let's hope they can keep up their winning ways at the Tour de France.
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Racing / Re: The TT Thread
« Last post by Frank9755 on Today at 01:17:04 am »
Heard about that, apparently quite dramatic / high speed incident. 
I'd already decided to DNS due to baby not well so saved the wasted journey, and wasted energy drink, as I'd measured it out but not put water in!
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The Knowledge / Re: Chamois Creme for Long rides
« Last post by Porkins on Today at 12:59:40 am »
I got the Assos ingredients from their site. The womens' has many more words! That's the limit of my expertise.

Womens':

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COMPOSITION AQUA HYDROGENATED POLYDECENE OCTYLDODECANOL GLYCERYL STEARATE SE PROPYLENE GLYCOL GLYCERIN SORBITAN STEARATE CETEARYL ALCOHOL CYCLOPENTASILOXANE POLYSORBATE 60 OZOKERITE HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL PHENOXYETHANOL MENTHYL LACTATE PANTHENOL STEARYL STEARATE TOCOPHERYL ACETATE DIMETHICONE/VINYLTRIMETHYLSILOXYSILICATE CROSSPOLYMER RIBES NIGRUM SEED OIL STEARIC ACID HAMAMELIS VIRGINIANA WATER MENTHOL PARFUM HELIANTHUS ANNUUS SEED OIL UNSAPONIFIABLES ALCOHOL DENAT. CARDIOSPERMUM HALICACABUM FLOWER/LEAF/VINE EXTRACT HELIANTHUS ANNUUS SEED OIL TOCOPHEROL CITRIC ACID ROSMARINUS OFFICINALIS LEAF EXTRACT

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COMPOSITION AQUA HYDROGENATED POLYDECENE OCTYLDODECANOL SYNTHETIC BEESWAX GLYCERYL STEARATE SE GLYCERYL PROPYLENE GLYCOL CETEARYL ALCOHOL SORBITAN STEARATE POLYSORBATE 60 CYCLOPENTASILOXANE MENTHYL LACTATE PHENOXYETHANOL PANTHENOL DIMETHICONE/VINYLTRIMETHYLSILOXYSILICATE CROSSPOLYMER MENTHOL HAMAMELIS VIRGINIANA WATER TOCOPHERYL ACETATE BHA ALCOHOL DENAT. CITRIC ACID
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The Knowledge / Re: Chamois Creme for Long rides
« Last post by Porkins on Today at 12:52:40 am »
There are 3 different Sudocrem products and they have different ingredients. Perhaps the antiseptic version could be expected to sting a bit on raw skin?

When I got my first bad case of nappy rash a pharmacist in the US told me that zinc oxide https://draxe.com/zinc-oxide-benefits/ was the key ingredient I needed, and I could get it in sunblock as well as nappy rash cream. The nappy rash stuff was only available in enormous tubs so I bought sunblock, and was saved from much agony. Any cream with a high zinc oxide content can be multipurpose, as chamois cream, sunblock, and burn treatment.

Difficult to say which creams are better or last longer. I suspect cream performance will vary according to how comfortable your chamois pad is. I reckon  a little cream goes a long way when you have the best chamois pad, which is why I've ended up wearing nothing but Assos. You can tell by looking at them that there's a complicated multi-stage manufacturing process, and they feel like a perfect fit. But I'm a bloke and I don't know anything about the chamois pads in Assos women's shorts.
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Racing / Re: Giro 2018
« Last post by Samuel D on Today at 12:36:11 am »
Without evidence? What do you think the AAF is?

It’s not even evidence of an overdose of salbutamol, much less evidence of Froome’s “willingness to use banned methods”. That’s leaping to conclusions twice in a single bound.

Froome found himself in a pickle. Chest infection and asthma. 3 options. Withdraw from the race, continue and risk health, or take a risk and use oral or nebulised Salbutamol, both banned.

You’ve created this out of whole cloth. Stating it emphatically doesn’t prove anything. Besides, what about the TUE option for something stronger?

The team are not disputing the fact that double the permitted level of salbutamol was found in his urine sample. What they are arguing about is why his urine contained that much salbutamol.

They need to convince WADA that the arbitrary limit set for permissible salbutamol level in the urine is based on flawed reasoning. Good luck with that.

It doesn’t seem so unlikely to this layman, given some of the lab tests and other salbutamol cases I’ve skim-read. There is room for doubt when experts disagree, and that’s all Froome needs. Also, I understand Froome’s urinary concentration of salbutamol has been recalibrated down to 1429 ng/ml. That may explain his cockiness about proving his innocence … or the cockiness could be a bluff.

If Sky were members of the MPCC, he would have been withdrawn from all racing pending the outcome of the investigation even if the AAF had not been made public.

I know. Given how that breaks the presumption of innocence, it seems like a good reason not to join the MPCC (itself increasingly lacking credibility for other reasons).

I think there was someone in this Giro with a swollen face from an insect bite he couldn’t treat for some MPCC reason. Not cool.
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The Knowledge / Re: Chamois Creme for Long rides
« Last post by Kim on Today at 12:33:29 am »
I like Conotrane's price:performance ratio, if not its smell.  It seems slightly better in wet conditions than some of the others, but I can't vouch for more than about 12 hours in one go.

Conotrane seems to be something that only appears in google searches along with mention of being from boots. Makes me think it may not be easy to find in Amsterdam... What section is it in in boots, I may look in etos just on the off chance.

I've only bought it online (5-6 quid for 500g), but I expect it'll either be with the baby stuff or the non-prescription pharmacy stuff.  It's a barrier cream for incontinence and pressure sores, and correspondingly smells like Old People.
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Health & Fitness / Re: Optical Symptoms - Migraines
« Last post by Jakob on Today at 12:31:31 am »
Feck, that sounds grim.

Is it worth talking to a pharmacist as they may know more about reality of meds than doctors. 

I wasn't told of kidney stones issues with either topiramate or zonisamide but I can't get candesartan without kidney function blood tests before taking it and 4 weeks in.
Yeah, that does sound bad. If I found a drug that worked, I would be extremely reluctant to go off it.

I was warned about it and was told to increase my water intake. No kidney tests for candesartan needed here.
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Audax / Re: Diy controls
« Last post by Manotea on Today at 12:26:11 am »
Who Knew?

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The Knowledge / Re: Chamois Creme for Long rides
« Last post by quixoticgeek on Today at 12:23:13 am »
I like Conotrane's price:performance ratio, if not its smell.  It seems slightly better in wet conditions than some of the others, but I can't vouch for more than about 12 hours in one go.

Conotrane seems to be something that only appears in google searches along with mention of being from boots. Makes me think it may not be easy to find in Amsterdam... What section is it in in boots, I may look in etos just on the off chance.

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I didn't realise there *were* women's versions.  Do they come in PINK tubs or something?

Well, from what I can tell, they reduce the size of the container, and up the price, and make it pink (in the case of Assos)...

Sportique, list both versions on their website as the same price, only I can't seem to find anywhere stocking the women's in the larger 180ml container, only the 100ml, making it effectively more expensive than the 180ml mens version stocked elsewhere...

Chamois Butt'r is the same price for mens and women's version. Tho the reviews I've seen suggest it has longevity issues...

Insert standard feminist rant about the cycling industry here.

J
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