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U.N.Dulates

  • aka John Hamilton
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #150 on: 04 March, 2018, 07:54:59 pm »
Is there room for another trike ?


Paul
Always room for another trike.

U.N.Dulates

  • aka John Hamilton
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #151 on: 04 March, 2018, 10:15:53 pm »
And that's all folks. Entries are now closed. Depending on how many cancellations I get there may be more availability nearer the time - I'll take a view on that at the start of June. But as I've taken 120 so far I wouldn't expect there to be many freed up by that.

Otherwise, as noted earlier in the thread, you can get a ride if you have: ridden both previous editions and are going for the triple; have a spouse or significant other helping; have volunteered on a previous edition; or ride a tandem, trike or recumbent. In which case get in touch with me here or by email.

Or you can enter the Grand Tour - plenty of spaces going there.

simonp

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #152 on: 04 March, 2018, 11:16:09 pm »
Phew!  ;D

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #153 on: 05 March, 2018, 10:49:59 pm »
Any OCD folks taking part?  Anyone with a list of cols?  Anyone who cares or knows what I'm talking about?

Here's my list for comment:

        Col                               Altitude (m)
1   Long Mynd (Thresholds)   409
2   Stiperstones (Upper Knolls)   429
3   Bwlch y sarnau hill         471
4   Bwlch Llwyn Bach          356
5   Llanbedr Hill                  440
6   Gospel Pass                  549
7   Mynydd Eppynt B4519   455
8   Devil’s Staircase                   475
9   Mynydd Llanybydder       402
10   Bodtalog (Rhyader-Cwmystwyth road)   402
11   The Arch B4574             378
12   Pen y pass                     359
13   Cwm Hafodredwydd B4407   485
14   Hirnant Pass                  501
15   Fronheulog B4393         336
                            Total   6447


A decent weekend's col bagging, no?
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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #154 on: 05 March, 2018, 11:14:39 pm »
Stiperstones, if its the col i'm thinking of is bloody hard  :o :o
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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #155 on: 05 March, 2018, 11:17:42 pm »
There's more cols than vowels.

I lived in Wales for a time, but never quite grasped the language/pronunciation. Will have to work on it beforehand I think.

whosatthewheel

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #156 on: 06 March, 2018, 07:11:32 am »
Any OCD folks taking part?  Anyone with a list of cols?  Anyone who cares or knows what I'm talking about?

Here's my list for comment:

        Col                               Altitude (m)
1   Long Mynd (Thresholds)   409
2   Stiperstones (Upper Knolls)   429
3   Bwlch y sarnau hill         471
4   Bwlch Llwyn Bach          356
5   Llanbedr Hill                  440
6   Gospel Pass                  549
7   Mynydd Eppynt B4519   455
8   Devil’s Staircase                   475
9   Mynydd Llanybydder       402
10   Bodtalog (Rhyader-Cwmystwyth road)   402
11   The Arch B4574             378
12   Pen y pass                     359
13   Cwm Hafodredwydd B4407   485
14   Hirnant Pass                  501
15   Fronheulog B4393         336
                            Total   6447


A decent weekend's col bagging, no?

You can't take the elevation from sea level... you need the actual climbing height, which is a lot less, possibly around 4K

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #157 on: 06 March, 2018, 07:36:06 am »
Any OCD folks taking part?  Anyone with a list of cols?  Anyone who cares or knows what I'm talking about?

Here's my list for comment:

        Col                               Altitude (m)
1   Long Mynd (Thresholds)   409
2   Stiperstones (Upper Knolls)   429
3   Bwlch y sarnau hill         471
4   Bwlch Llwyn Bach          356
5   Llanbedr Hill                  440
6   Gospel Pass                  549
7   Mynydd Eppynt B4519   455
8   Devil’s Staircase                   475
9   Mynydd Llanybydder       402
10   Bodtalog (Rhyader-Cwmystwyth road)   402
11   The Arch B4574             378
12   Pen y pass                     359
13   Cwm Hafodredwydd B4407   485
14   Hirnant Pass                  501
15   Fronheulog B4393         336
                            Total   6447


A decent weekend's col bagging, no?

You can't take the elevation from sea level... you need the actual climbing height, which is a lot less, possibly around 4K
You might be thinking of AAA.  http://www.aukweb.net/ocd/

Andy Corless

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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #158 on: 08 March, 2018, 05:06:10 pm »
Not riding this time so tell me to MMOB if you wish but I've noticed the speed ranges for the event are 13.3 - 16.7 kph http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-1000/

For the Grand Tour version the speed ranges are 14.3 - 25 kph http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-384/

Does this seem right?

Andy Corless

mattc

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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #159 on: 08 March, 2018, 06:11:09 pm »
Looks ok for the GT version. This text might help explain:

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Choose your own daily distances and overnight stops but a minimum of 4 days must be at least 200km and ridden within a 14.3kph minimum speed for BR validation.

This seems to be how multi-day BRs often work - each *day* has a min of 14.3kph. But you can then rest for 10 hours before attempting the next leg :)
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simonp

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #160 on: 08 March, 2018, 06:46:54 pm »
I think AC is surprised by the 16.7kph maximum for the standard event. I am too. I know orgs are allowed to set a reduced maximum but I didn’t think it went that low.

whosatthewheel

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #161 on: 08 March, 2018, 07:13:36 pm »
I think AC is surprised by the 16.7kph maximum for the standard event. I am too. I know orgs are allowed to set a reduced maximum but I didn’t think it went that low.

Not an issue, looking at past MC1K, nobody got close to that... I think that's the final one.. controls along the way allow much higher averages

U.N.Dulates

  • aka John Hamilton
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #162 on: 08 March, 2018, 07:55:45 pm »
4 years ago I set the maximum speed to 20kph i.e. 50hrs. That might seem very low, but the reality was that the fastest time was just under 65 hours and only 4 riders (out of the 60 finishers) were back in less than 70 hours.

(This is not necessarily because it's that hard a ride but because it's set up to ride "collegiate style" with the field regrouping each night. It would undoubtedly be possible for a fast rider to get round significantly faster riding non-stop but on experience of the past editions, those riders prefer to use their extra time in hand to get more sleep. This makes for a more sociable experience on an event with a relatively small field rather than the fast riders disappearing off into the distance - and means resources can be concentrated where/when they provide the most benefit overall rather than having to man controls for hours with very little happening).

This time round based on that experience the maximum speed has been further reduced to 16.7kph (60hrs). That only applies at the finish control - intermediate controls have higher maximum speeds which taper down throughout the event.

The GT version, as noted is set up to be ridden as 4x200km+ @ 14.3kph. There is an overall limit for the finish control as well. The event planner is so heavily geared towards the "standard" event format that there's not really any way to reflect this though.

U.N.Dulates

  • aka John Hamilton
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #163 on: 08 March, 2018, 08:02:03 pm »
There's more cols than vowels.

I lived in Wales for a time, but never quite grasped the language/pronunciation. Will have to work on it beforehand I think.

If it helps (probably not) Welsh is a phonetic language (unlike say English) so once you learn the sounds of the individual letters it's not that hard to string words together. You also need to remember that 'w' and 'y' are vowels in the Welsh alphabet, and 'll', 'ff' and 'dd' are actually just single letters

Andy Corless

  • Doesn't take the p***, says it as it is!
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #164 on: 09 March, 2018, 03:45:32 pm »
Thought so! I was wondering whether the 16.7 maximum was being applied to intermediate controls or just the finish control. I had visions of riders arriving at each control on the first day and having to wait an hour before departing. Good luck with the event this year.

Andy Corless

Smeth

  • less Grimpeur than Whimpeur...
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #165 on: 10 March, 2018, 11:53:01 pm »


There's more cols than vowels.

I lived in Wales for a time, but never quite grasped the language/pronunciation. Will have to work on it beforehand I think.

Welsh is a phonetic language

Googled a few Welsh language topics. Been visiting Wales all my life. Never bothered to pick up more than road signs whereas in other countries I've at least learned counting, greetings, please and thank you. What would the response be to an English numpty using a word or two of Welsh? Possibly suspect p**s taking or "sorry mate, please speak English? Or like elsewhere, an appreciation you're making an effort however inept?

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vistaed

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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #166 on: 13 April, 2018, 11:30:59 pm »
Quite excited. I've entered the GT version as it's something a little bit different. I'll be audaxing with a book, a stove and either the bivi or tent.
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U.N.Dulates

  • aka John Hamilton
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #167 on: 08 May, 2018, 08:41:16 pm »
The Jersey for this year's event is now available from ForceGB



http://forcegb.com/club-shops/millie-cymru [sic]

More details, prices & sizing etc are all on the ForceGB website. Orders direct from them as well.

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #168 on: 08 May, 2018, 08:57:02 pm »
The Jersey for this year's event is now available from ForceGB

 :thumbsup: Looks good.

One ordered, now I just need to complete the ride to be worthy

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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #169 on: 09 May, 2018, 10:07:29 am »
That jersey looks great. Just a quick (and most probably stupid) question. What is the difference between the "Short Sleeve Club Jersey" and the "Short Sleeve Event Jersey" ? The description is exactly the same except the bullet points at the bottom of more expensive one.

whosatthewheel

Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #170 on: 09 May, 2018, 10:15:31 am »
Great design John... looks awesome...  :thumbsup:

Bernster

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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #171 on: 09 May, 2018, 10:27:21 am »
That jersey looks great. Just a quick (and most probably stupid) question. What is the difference between the "Short Sleeve Club Jersey" and the "Short Sleeve Event Jersey" ? The description is exactly the same except the bullet points at the bottom of more expensive one.
Based on other events that Force GB have provided jerseys for, the club jersey is more of a race/slim fit, and has slightly more features. Don't take that as gospel though, hopefully someone will be along shortly who knows more than I do.

Smeth

  • less Grimpeur than Whimpeur...
Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #172 on: 09 May, 2018, 10:27:39 am »
Just checked with Force GB. LEL had "race" and "event" jerseys. For MC "club" is what was called "race" for LEL. "Event" is as per LEL.

Event is more relaxed fit. I have an LEL one so same again. And +1 to a good design.

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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #173 on: 09 May, 2018, 11:30:02 am »
Detail are elsewhere on the ForceGB website
http://forcegb.com/products/jerseys


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thing1

  • aka Joth
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Re: Mille Cymru 2018
« Reply #174 on: 14 May, 2018, 03:25:35 pm »
My experience was I tried M and S sizes of Event jersey for LEL, and in the end  stumped up for the M sized club/race fit jersey to get a good fit.  I found the event fit was either way too tight on the shoulders, or way way way to flappy around the gut.
Happily that extensive research should pay off well for my second MC jersey :)

Sorry if I missed it, but is there a closing date for orders? (i.e., can we order after the ride?)

Thanks