2018 North Yorkshire Brevets Unpopulaire

[Deano]

Good folks of yacf, I'd like to invite you all to either of my offroad audaxes from Newby Wiske on Saturday 28/04/18.

You read that right - as if one brevet unpopulaire wasn't enough, there are now two brevets unpopulaire.

Don't Keep to the Road is 100-anna-bit kms, with the usual mix of bastard hills, offroad climbs and descents, abandoned railways, hidden valleys, forestry trails and pubs. But one less pub this year as I've decided the control at Hawnby isn't required. You can still stop there for a pint, of course.

Moor Gravel Forever is the same loop, but with an extra loop farther into the Moors making it up to 100 miles. More gravel. More hills. A lovely cafe in Lealholm.

There's free camping* and food at the start and finish, and an all-night after-ride party. I think we eventually went to bed at 4 am last year - with the 300 on the same day, I'm hoping riders on the 150 will be finishing at around the same time as riders on the 300. It'll be a great atmosphere - it was last year.

Both events have a minimum speed of 10 kph.




Don't Keep to the Road on RWGPS: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/25648476
Moor Gravel on RWGPS: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/24209276

* It really is free, but I'll almost certainly wave a charity tin in the direction of anyone camping, cos the start/finish is my mate's farm, and all proceeds from the ride will go to a charity of his choice. No obligation though.

[Karla]

What, you mean you didn't call the long one "Moor unpopulaire than ever"?  I'm shocked.

[Wobbly]

Sounds great.

Not for me though - I'd hate to chip the paintwork on the Pashley...

[SoreTween]

Aw g'wan Wobbly, a Pashley would make a great addition to the variety of machines that went round last year. (See arrivee)

[Chris S]

That DrMekon glance-of-shame back to see if you're watching him get off is tremendous  . Didn't prevent him winning thobut!

Don't forget to send me the GPX of the 100 miler for us to play with! Don't worry, found it.

[SoreTween]

Don't forget to send me the GPX of the 100 miler for us to play with!

I'd appreciate that sooner rather than later too. There's at most 6 cycle.travel updates between now and the ride to fill in any missing bits. I copy the route onto c.t as I need a tcx (and I'm too tight to pay for rwgps)

[Stretch]

Looking forward to this, from what Mike was saying it sounds like a cracking event.
MTB or gravel bike though? 100 miles on the moors on a gravel/ cross bike might be a bit harsh on my back.

[tiermat]

I'm in, again, as I have unfinished business with the 100k

[Chris S]

Looking forward to this, from what Mike was saying it sounds like a cracking event.
MTB or gravel bike though? 100 miles on the moors on a gravel/ cross bike might be a bit harsh on my back.

The usual tradeoff applies - Comfort vs Speed. The rougher parts will be easier with a mountain bike, the road parts (which is most of the ride(s), to be fair) will be faster with CX. I've only just recently got a mountain bike; part of the plan over the winter is to compare and contrast CX/MTB on t'Moor.

[SoreTween]

On the DKttR part of it there is only one descent that is distinctly mtb country, the one to Cockayne.  We certainly made up time there last year as we flew down it on ours, very    The rest a gravel bike is as suitable as an mtb, Mr Bond and I will be on gravel bikes next year.  Decide on comfort/time grounds not surface.

[citoyen]

Hmmmm, I'm planning to do the Scottish 1000 on 31st May... wonder what are the chances of being able to stop off in Yorkshire on the way northwards to do this one as well...

Might need to take two bikes though.

[Deano]

Hmmmm, I'm planning to do the Scottish 1000 on 31st May... wonder what are the chances of being able to stop off in Yorkshire on the way northwards to do this one as well...

Might need to take two bikes though.

You're spending a month in Scotland

These rides are on the 28th of April

[Deano]

Don't forget to send me the GPX of the 100 miler for us to play with!

I'd appreciate that sooner rather than later too. There's at most 6 cycle.travel updates between now and the ride to fill in any missing bits. I copy the route onto c.t as I need a tcx (and I'm too tight to pay for rwgps)

I'll add links to the rides on RWGPS above and update the calendar page (sorry, meant to do it last night) - you can, of course, just download the vanilla GPX for nowt. I've added some extras, but they're not really necessary.

[citoyen]

These rides are on the 28th of April

Doh! Must drink more coffee before making complex plans...

[sojournermike]

I'll book the time in my calendar. Perhaps the 100 miler this year - back on the Yellow Peril (gravel bike for those that haven't seen it).

Looking forward already.

Mike

[iddu]

There ya go, Moor Gravel list christened, so you've got to run it now...

Ulp! MTB or FatBike, decisions decisions

[Deano]

On the DKttR part of it there is only one descent that is distinctly mtb country, the one to Cockayne.  We certainly made up time there last year as we flew down it on ours, very    The rest a gravel bike is as suitable as an mtb, Mr Bond and I will be on gravel bikes next year.  Decide on comfort/time grounds not surface.

There's not much that's really rough on the extra loop in the 100 - one bridleway section in Fryupdale, but you can detour round it on the road very easily.  Not that you should - it's fabulous.

The other offroad bits on the extra loop are all gravelly tracks. I'll add some photos.

[snail]

If it's any help for bike choice, I rode the "adventure cross" in Galloway a few years ago - not an audax, but long, hilly and a mix of on and off road (gravelly) with one tiny MTB section. I was writing it up for a magazine and interviewed people afterwards, asking, "what bike did you do it on, and was that the right choice?"

No matter if they rode on a CX, a MTB, some kind of in-between hybrid, of whatever combination of tyres/pressures/bars/frames - everyone said THEIR bike was the right one.

So that answers that.

[Cudzoziemiec]

The bike you're riding is always better than the bike unridden.

[Stretch]

Thanks for all the advice - I've done the Moors and Shores adventure cross and the Yorkshire Grit events; The Moors and Shores I did on MTB and thought afterwards that i should have used CX/ gravel, I did the Grit on CX and thought afterwards that I should have taken a MTB.

Guess the grass is always greener on the other side 

I suppose it will really come down to the on/off road ratio and the weather beforehand.

[Deano]

Forget the Yorkshire True Grit. It's nowhere near as offroady as that. 30-40% offroad.

Loads of photos from last year are in the current Arrivee, or on last year's thread: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=100815.0

[marlan]

I quite fancy this, may do it on my Dawes Galaxy Touring bike, which of course I now refer to it as my gravel bike, or was it adventure bike, oh hang on it's a bikepacking bike now!

I'll call it the red one!


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[Deano]

It's not a proper Dawes Galaxy unless it's BRG.

[marlan]

It's not a proper Dawes Galaxy unless it's BRG.

Yes, you are correct, it's a World Tour version I have.

Guess this will be suitable for this ride? Did enjoy reading the write up in latest Arrivee




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[Deano]

I reckon you'll be fine.

...But then I would say that, wouldn't I?