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Jaded

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OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« on: 24 January, 2018, 08:38:21 pm »
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Andrew Br

RIP Mark E Smith.
« Reply #1 on: 24 January, 2018, 08:38:38 pm »
Just confirmed on 6 Music.

What to say ?
Genius ? Bonkers ?
Yes.

This for me sums up both facets:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH1KhxKh1YA

RIP Mark.
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LEE

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #2 on: 24 January, 2018, 09:01:04 pm »
I tried and tried to like his music... and failed.

However I did admire what he stood for.  No compromise.  None.
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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #3 on: 24 January, 2018, 09:11:41 pm »
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Ham

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #4 on: 24 January, 2018, 09:29:09 pm »
It's Michael Clarke's dancing that I'll always associate with The Fall.
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Redlight

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #5 on: 24 January, 2018, 09:33:09 pm »
I saw an early incarnation of The Fall in Liverpool. I reckon it must have been about 1978 as I was certainly underage at the club at which they were playing.  They were supporting some Gong spin-off band and entry on the night was free. I remember being totally bewildered by them and then bemused when, at the end of their set, they passed a carrier bag around to try and raise enough money to get back to Manchester.

Echoing Lee, I never became a fan but they certainly appear to have been influential.
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PaulF

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #6 on: 24 January, 2018, 09:46:57 pm »
Like Lee and Redlight I’ve never “got” The Fall and the tribute on 6Music has just made me turn the radio off but he stuck to his guns and was obviously great at what he did.

R.l.p.
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Deano

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #7 on: 24 January, 2018, 10:17:42 pm »
Bugger :(

Time to get pissed and play all the records.

Still my favourite tribute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_Dk81f9fg
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ian

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #8 on: 24 January, 2018, 11:04:42 pm »
I dunno, but I thought they were shit though I should credit him with persistence. The Fall were one of those bands that it was cool to like without actually having to listen to (as long as you could Vic-tor-EEE-AH).
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Sergeant Pluck

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #9 on: 25 January, 2018, 12:06:58 am »
How sad.

For all his bravado about his drinking, he must have had a horrible last few years. He’s looked about 75 for the last 5 years or so.
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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #10 on: 25 January, 2018, 02:55:49 am »
Quote from: Deano on 24 January, 2018, 10:17:42 pm
Bugger :(

Time to get pissed and play all the records.

Still my favourite tribute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_Dk81f9fg

That could take a while-ah.
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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #11 on: 25 January, 2018, 12:33:59 pm »
Quote from: PaulF on 24 January, 2018, 09:46:57 pm
Like Lee and Redlight I’ve never “got” The Fall

Are you not a Gillian Anderson fan?? Probably Dornan's best work too. Brilliant programme, truly creepy at times too.
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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #12 on: 25 January, 2018, 01:04:01 pm »
Like yer man says in "Rome", I did not know he was alive until he was dead.  I can't feel I missed much.

Quote from: mattc on 25 January, 2018, 12:33:59 pm
Quote from: PaulF on 24 January, 2018, 09:46:57 pm
Like Lee and Redlight I’ve never “got” The Fall

Are you not a Gillian Anderson fan?? Probably Dornan's best work too. Brilliant programme, truly creepy at times too.

Just finished watching series 3 last night. Yup, brilliant.
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hillbilly

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #13 on: 25 January, 2018, 02:41:29 pm »
Mark E Smith - a poem

Mark E Smith was a surly git
He had a voice of tar
The only skill he ever had
Was getting drunk in dark bars.
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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #14 on: 25 January, 2018, 07:03:18 pm »
The general comment seems to be, "I found his music unlistenable but he was an icon".
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Deano

Re: RIP Mark E Smith.
« Reply #15 on: 25 January, 2018, 10:18:58 pm »
Quote from: Andrew Br on 24 January, 2018, 08:38:38 pm
Just confirmed on 6 Music.

What to say ?
Genius ? Bonkers ?
Yes.

This for me sums up both facets:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH1KhxKh1YA

RIP Mark.

Aye, that's pretty awesome. I can't remember, are you a Prestwich lad yourself?

I saw the Fall live two-and-a-half times, and I haven't been to many gigs with such a fervent audience, or such a diverse audience. It wasn't just a bunch of blokes who were the right age at the right time.
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Deano

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #16 on: 25 January, 2018, 10:41:03 pm »
Quote from: Mr Larrington on 25 January, 2018, 02:55:49 am
Quote from: Deano on 24 January, 2018, 10:17:42 pm
Bugger :(

Time to get pissed and play all the records.

Still my favourite tribute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_Dk81f9fg

That could take a while-ah.

:)

Reminds me of Peel's line when listeners would ask which Fall album they should listen to first - he'd invariably reply "You need to listen to them all".
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Ham

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #17 on: 26 January, 2018, 10:11:27 am »
Am I the only one here to have seen Michael Clark dancing? The few videos available are pretty carp, and give you no sense of the energy and mesmerising quality of being there. While I wouldn't listen to them on their own, The Fall music was more than perfect for it.

Here's a couple of vids, I seriously don't expect anyone to think much of them (NB - NSFW !!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msrKhC7bwDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrbdzPk2Xi0
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Torslanda

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #18 on: 26 January, 2018, 08:57:49 pm »
I read the flurry of posts on bookface about Mark's passing and had to Google his name to find out who he was.

Obviously knew who John Peel was but never listened to his radio programme so, other than having heard the name, was completely in the dark about the band, too.

Now I'm wondering if I missed something . . .
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VELOMANCER

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Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #19 on: 26 January, 2018, 11:19:56 pm »
No, you didn't.
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Andrew Br

Re: RIP Mark E Smith.
« Reply #20 on: 27 January, 2018, 12:12:18 am »
Quote from: Deano on 25 January, 2018, 10:18:58 pm
Quote from: Andrew Br on 24 January, 2018, 08:38:38 pm
Just confirmed on 6 Music.

What to say ?
Genius ? Bonkers ?
Yes.

This for me sums up both facets:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH1KhxKh1YA

RIP Mark.

Aye, that's pretty awesome. I can't remember, are you a Prestwich lad yourself?



Great isn't it ?

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I'm from Haslingden and went to Manchester Poly. There was a girl. She lived in Manchester .....


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Torslanda

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #21 on: 27 January, 2018, 12:19:10 am »
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VELOMANCER

Quote from: trekker12 on 16 July, 2016, 08:54:33 am
Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

Deano

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #22 on: 27 January, 2018, 12:50:47 am »
Quote from: Torslanda on 27 January, 2018, 12:19:10 am
Quote from: redshift on 26 January, 2018, 11:19:56 pm
No, you didn't.

That's a relief.

Give them a chance. The fantastic groove in Blindness Andy linked above is just one moment. The worst that could happen is you've listened to some new music.
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Andrew Br

Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #23 on: 27 January, 2018, 01:04:03 am »
Quote from: Deano on 27 January, 2018, 12:50:47 am

Give them a chance. The fantastic groove in Blindness Andy linked above is just one moment. The worst that could happen is you've listened to some new music.

Yes, the groove is where it's at.
Who's this "Andy" of whom you speak ?

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Jaded

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Re: OMG. RIP Mark E Smith
« Reply #24 on: 27 January, 2018, 01:30:33 am »
I’ve played that YouTube several times since it was linked here. Marvellous.

I’d heard The Fall before, a bit Meh. But that is good. As Deano says, exposure to new music is good.

Unless it is Contemorary R&B. If you think that is music.
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