Latin help, anyone good at it?

[1gear]

My GF is doing latin at uni(she has to do it ) and shes abit stuck.
She has  6 different nouns with adjectives, what she needs is words for the nominative, accusative and genitive in singluar and plural, or the didfferent occasions of these. If that makes sence?
Here are the nouns with their adjectives(i think)
Breue tempus
Celeris nauis
Ingens mons
Siluestre animal
Audax miles

So, can anyone help?
Which part does she take off to add the ending on?

I dont know any Latin, but i do know a small bit of French so, Merci mon petite pois'

[1gear]

If it makes no sence then tell me and ill try and clarify!!!
Cheers

[1gear]

For an example to make it any easier, for the Audax Miles one, itis is the genitive and that needs to go on some how to miles.
Another example is for the word urbs, which to change you add on 'is' and drop the 's' so it becomes urbis

Help anyone anymore?
Come on, ive replied to my own thread more times then anyone else. Deary me.
Someone reply, to make me look less of a tit

[nuttycyclist]

Someone reply, to make me look less of a tit

I'm going to reply so that you look less of a tit.

I know no latin at all, nor in fact any foreign language as I just can't get my head around them.


Now I look like a tit  

[1gear]

Someone reply, to make me look less of a tit

I'm going to reply so that you look less of a tit.

I know no latin at all, nor in fact any foreign language as I just can't get my head around them.


Now I look like a tit  

Brilliant, cheers
Youve made me look less of a tit
 

[border-rider]

If it helps, I also have no idea

My skewl weren't posh enough for Latin.  I could probably do it in Welsh, if that would help...

[eck]

 
I'd love to help, but I still don't understand what it is you are asking.

I know that Gaul was divided into three parts, I know the Latin for "a rampart anna ditch", and "tandem" means - oddly enough - "at length".

I didn't go to a posh school either, but I was around when Latin was a living language.
Civis Romanus sum.   

[1gear]

If it helps, I also have no idea

My skewl weren't posh enough for Latin.  I could probably do it in Welsh, if that would help...

Hmmm, im tempted to say yes, tell her and see if she notices, but i wont be so cruel

[Regulator]

My GF is doing latin at uni(she has to do it ) and shes abit stuck.
She has  6 different nouns with adjectives, what she needs is words for the nominative, accusative and genitive in singluar and plural, or the didfferent occasions of these. If that makes sence?
Here are the nouns with their adjectives(i think)
Breue tempus
Celeris nauis
Ingens mons
Siluestre animal
Audax miles

So, can anyone help?
Which part does she take off to add the ending on?

I dont know any Latin, but i do know a small bit of French so, Merci mon petite pois'

For 'audax miles' Teethgrinder's your man.... 

[orienteer]

I did Latin at school, but have forgotten most of it

[1gear]

I'd love to help, but I still don't understand what it is you are asking.

I know that Gaul was divided into three parts, I know the Latin for "a rampart anna ditch", and "tandem" means - oddly enough - "at length".

I didn't go to a posh school either, but I was around when Latin was a living language.
Civis Romanus sum.   

I think she needs to change the words to their nominative, accusative and genitive in singluar and plural form.
If that makes sence?

[alan]

I was good at it 41 years ago.
I can't remember what I was doing last week so have certainly forgotten my Latin( & French) which I could have taken GCE O Level a year early if the teachers concerned had got it together

As they say...use it or lose it

[1gear]

I did Latin at school, but have forgotten most of it

I did French, i only know a few sayings know, which will make no sence or be of no use in a conversation

[eck]

Like Alan and orienteer, I've forgotten most of it. More than 41 years ago in my case. 

For 'audax miles' Teethgrinder's your man.... 

Never mind Teethgrinder, isn't Liz all posh and knowing of Latin an' stuff?

[HTFB]

My GF is doing latin at uni(she has to do it ) and shes abit stuck.
She has  6 different nouns with adjectives, what she needs is words for the nominative, accusative and genitive in singluar and plural, or the didfferent occasions of these. If that makes sence?
Here are the nouns with their adjectives(i think)
Breue tempus
Celeris nauis
Ingens mons
Siluestre animal
Audax miles

So, can anyone help?
Which part does she take off to add the ending on?

I dont know any Latin, but i do know a small bit of French so, Merci mon petite pois'

I hope she has a dictionary or word list which says something like:

brevis, -is (adj)
tempus, -oris (n neut)
celer, celeris (adj)
navis, -is (nf)
ingens, -tis (adj)
mons, -tis (nm)
silvestris, -tris (adj)
animal, -alis (n neut)
audax, -acis (adj)
miles, -itis (nm)

The -suffix is the genitive singular ending, and you can work the rest out. Generally you take the last syllable off, and replace with the ending, but it's usually fairly obvious what to do in a different pattern. So the genitives are brevis, temporis, celeris, navis, ingentis, montis, silvestris, animalis, audacis, militis.

And then the answer will be a table something like:

Singular	Nominative	Accusitive	Genitive	Plural	Nominative	Accusitive	Genitive
	breve tempus	breve tempus	brevis temporis		brevia tempora	brevia tempora	brevium temporum

etc.

One useful trick---if what I've said is obvious isn't---is to think of English derivatives of the word. So "temporary" coming from tempus shows that the genitive is temporis and not say tempusoris

Audax miles, though. Probably the exercise was set by someone here on the forum anyway. Though normally you think of audax kilometres.

[1gear]

She has a dictionary, but she didnt know which bit to drop to change it, if you get what i mean.
Ive passed that on to her, hopefully it will help her.

Thanks very much

I just emailed it her, and apparently the breuve tempus is wrong, she got it in an example and its different

Where did the u go out from the breue?

No your right, her teacher was wrong!! So it appears

[HTFB]

Oh, sorry, I learned Latin from an old-fashioned course that distinguished v and u.

She'll have breuis, breuis in the dictionary. Is it really not breue tempus in the nominative (and also accusative: for neuter nouns nom. and acc. are the same)? What does she get?

I've revised my original post a little, by the way. 

[1gear]

Which bit goes under which adjective or noun group? Theres 3 different types in the 3 declentive and she doesnt get which is which and which ending they take.

Thanks for the help

If this makes sence?

[Tim]

I last did such things approximately half my life ago at GCSE. Though I think that I would have probably been imbued with the necessary powers of declension at age 11. It's not a trick I can perform any more.

Though for the record I preferred classical Greek to Latin. You could always tell those students who had studied some Greek on a maths degree - they could read most of the notation with screwing up their faces and sticking out their tongues in concentration.

[HTFB]

I'm not sure I understand that question. The adjective has to agree with the noun in number , case and gender, and there are three genders (masculine, feminine, neuter). And then there are several different "declensions" of both nouns and adjectives, which are the different patterns of ending---she's probably come across three of those, too. All of these examples have the -is ending for their genitive, which makes them "third declension". She should have a table of examples of what happens to third declension adjectives when they're paired with nouns in each of the different numbers, cases and genders.

I was made to learn the tables by rote:
"Brevis brevis breve, brevis brevis breve, brevem brevem breve, brevis brevis brevis, brevi brevi brevi, breve breve breve;
Breves breves brevia, breves breves brevia, breves breves brevia, brevium brevium brevium, brevibus brevibus brevibus, brevibus brevibus brevibus". And breathe.

[geraldc]

Isn't phil the resident Latin expert?

I did GCSE Latin and unless you want badly written schoolboy softporn about what Caecillius got up to with Metalla whilst Grumio the coquos watched, then I can't help
at all.

[Greenbank]

There are a couple of latin experts over on CycleChat... oh...

[1gear]

There are a couple of latin experts over on CycleChat... oh...

And i take it you know the full story about CC then

[1gear]

I'm not sure I understand that question. The adjective has to agree with the noun in number , case and gender, and there are three genders (masculine, feminine, neuter). And then there are several different "declensions" of both nouns and adjectives, which are the different patterns of ending---she's probably come across three of those, too. All of these examples have the -is ending for their genitive, which makes them "third declension". She should have a table of examples of what happens to third declension adjectives when they're paired with nouns in each of the different numbers, cases and genders.

I was made to learn the tables by rote:
"Brevis brevis breve, brevis brevis breve, brevem brevem breve, brevis brevis brevis, brevi brevi brevi, breve breve breve;
Breves breves brevia, breves breves brevia, breves breves brevia, brevium brevium brevium, brevibus brevibus brevibus, brevibus brevibus brevibus". And breathe.

Thanks very much for the help Shes doing it now

[1gear]

Last question, she wants to know if you know what the word for "hide" is, for example, "the king hides" so the 3rd person one.

Thanks very much

I gave her a link to a translator but apparently its not right