Author Topic: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?  (Read 7471 times)

andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« on: 07 July, 2008, 10:00:08 pm »
Any idea?  I'm headed overseas mid-August and mine just coughed and died.   :o
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border-rider

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #1 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:01:36 pm »
You can go to a passport office and do it in one day if needed

Our friends had to do this last year when their son lost his

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #2 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:02:21 pm »
Lady at work was saying the other day that her recent renewal was back within five days, which I thought was lightning-speed compared to when I last did mine.

Her husband (who did it at the same time) has messy handwriting and apparently his took a few days longer  ::-)

Elleigh

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #3 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:04:09 pm »
On the website they suggest a three week turn around.

andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #4 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:08:36 pm »
Cutting it close.  I better get my arse in gear tomorrow.  :)
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andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #5 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:15:05 pm »
Blooming Nora, HOW MUCH?

Eee, when I were a lad, etc etc.
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Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #6 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:17:49 pm »
You've got enough time to do a normal Check & Send at the Post Office, if you do it in the next few days.

Urgent applications - Identity and Passport Service

"
If you need your passport within two weeks you should call our 24-hour Passport Adviceline 0870 521 0410 (see terms and conditions) to make an appointment at one of our offices. We can offer a Fast Track one week service or a Premium same-day service.
"
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Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #7 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:19:18 pm »
I did mine ealier this year and it was a matter of days
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Martin

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #8 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:21:51 pm »
days for me recently too; I've even had one turned around in 3 days over the August bank holiday.

andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #9 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:26:52 pm »
I have five weeks, so I've done the online wossname.  I like online wossnames  :thumbsup:

Whee!  I only go abroad once every ten years!  :D
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Julian

  • samoture
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #10 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:34:39 pm »
I did check 'n' send, and got it back within ten days, complete with biometric chip.

Once I've returned from HMP America, I shall be microwaving it.

Martin

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #11 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:35:56 pm »
I have five weeks, so I've done the online wossname.  I like online wossnames  :thumbsup:

Whee!  I only go abroad once every ten years!  :D

in that case you'd be better off with a British Visitor's Passport (err hang on..)

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #12 on: 07 July, 2008, 10:44:15 pm »
Thinking about this has just take me back 20 years when the day before we were due to go on holiday my friend, now wife, and I had to go to Petty France to get our passports. It involved queueing for hours, finding out that hers had in fact bee posted and might therefore be at home or not, filling in forms, providing copies of photos etc. all of which had been sent weeks earlier. Then it involved going away for several hours, whilst things were done. Then it involved going back and queueing up for hours to collect the finished passport.

You just don't get levels of efficiency like that under a socialist government
[Quote/]Adrian, you're living proof that bandwidth is far too cheap.[/Quote]

andym

  • Expat Cyclist
    • AndysRockets
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #13 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:47:37 pm »
Mine was 7 days from posting to getting DHL card thru letterbox, so 8 days when I collected from Post Office.  That was c/o British Consulate in Düsseldorf though, so maybe slightly different timescales to normal.

Ouch at price though! (Paid in Euros, with 5Euro extra postage fee!)
AndyM

andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #14 on: 07 July, 2008, 11:53:36 pm »
Mind you, Adrian, 20 years ago the IT was driven by water wheel.  It's a hell of a lot easier to be efficient these days :)
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Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #15 on: 08 July, 2008, 07:28:49 am »
I don't see any sense in dragging reason into this
[Quote/]Adrian, you're living proof that bandwidth is far too cheap.[/Quote]

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #16 on: 08 July, 2008, 10:46:14 am »
I did check 'n' send, and got it back within ten days, complete with biometric chip.

Once I've returned from HMP America, I shall be microwaving it.

Why?

You'll either
1) Get delays / immigration issues because the passport doesn't work
2) Have your movements tracked anyway through the passport serial number as per you currently are.


I may not agree with the way things are going, but for convenience sake (and to avoid the rubber gloves) I'd rather keep my head down and not draw attention to myself.  Same as the terrorists really ::-)

Regulator

  • That's Councillor Regulator to you...
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #17 on: 08 July, 2008, 10:57:46 am »
Quickest renewal I've had with my British passport is 8 days from posting to receipt.

However, when I renewed my New Zealand passport, I had to do it in person at NZ House.  My passport arrived, from NZ, four days later!  Now that's quick!
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Zipperhead

  • The cyclist formerly known as Big Helga
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #18 on: 08 July, 2008, 01:02:27 pm »
I did check 'n' send, and got it back within ten days, complete with biometric chip.

Once I've returned from HMP America, I shall be microwaving it.

Why?

You'll either
1) Get delays / immigration issues because the passport doesn't work
2) Have your movements tracked anyway through the passport serial number as per you currently are.

My microwaved passport has taken me to America & back without any eyelids being batted.

It's been through UK immigration many times now, most of the time they assume there's a fault and let me through without any questions being asked.

Last time returning from Ireland the immigration officer bothered to have a look and noticed the signs of nuclear meltdown, I explained to her that I didn't wish to travel around with a security risk and she let me through with a smile.
Won't somebody think of the hamsters!

Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #19 on: 08 July, 2008, 01:23:49 pm »
Why?
...
...I explained to her that I didn't wish to travel around with a security risk and she let me through with a smile.

I can see I need to ask more questions  :-\   What's the "security risk"?

Zipperhead

  • The cyclist formerly known as Big Helga
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #20 on: 08 July, 2008, 01:50:39 pm »
I can see I need to ask more questions  :-\   What's the "security risk"?

The details encoded in the RFID chip can be read remotely.

You'll have to make do with this link for now, my other links are at home.
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andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #21 on: 08 July, 2008, 02:28:45 pm »
Can't you get a tinfoil slipcase for 'em too?
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Zipperhead

  • The cyclist formerly known as Big Helga
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #22 on: 08 July, 2008, 02:48:01 pm »
Can't you get a tinfoil slipcase for 'em too?

Yes, but 2 seconds of microwave energy is enough to fix the problem permanently.
Won't somebody think of the hamsters!

andygates

  • Peroxide Viking
Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #23 on: 08 July, 2008, 03:19:22 pm »
RFID is a design problem.  Hmm.  Has the encryption been demonstrated to be weak, then?

If you say "what encryption?" then my new passport is going to go ping. :-\
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Re: How fast are passport renewals at the mo?
« Reply #24 on: 08 July, 2008, 03:26:32 pm »
RFID is a design problem.  Hmm.  Has the encryption been demonstrated to be weak, then?

If you say "what encryption?" then my new passport is going to go ping. :-\

There's no problem with the encryption. Here's the important bit:-

"
But could you - and what use would my passport be to you? A security feature of the chip ensures that information cannot be added or altered, so you couldn't put your picture on my chip. So is our attack really so impressive?

The Home Office thinks not. It correctly points out that the information sucked out of the chip is only the same as that which appears on the page, readable with the human eye. And to obtain the key in the first place, you would need to have access to the passport to read (with the naked eye) its number, expiry date and the date of birth of its holder.
"

That's why the readers at Immigration controls have both a scanner to read the data from the page, and this data is used to initiate the conversation between the reader and the RFID to confirm this is what is on the passport.

No reader can talk to your RFID and get data from it without knowing your passport number, expiry date, and date of birth.

The problem is that it doesn't prevent copying. If you hand your passport over at a hotel or rental car company then they could scan the page, copy the RFID data, and then clone your passport. But that still means they'll have to forge the rest of the passport, which is trickier than cloning an RFID.
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