Author Topic: 'Veggie' meat dishes  (Read 5814 times)

Re: 'Veggie' meat dishes
« Reply #25 on: 22 March, 2017, 06:54:53 pm »
Quorn isn't slime mould, it's a mycoprotein grown in vats. Sounds horrible, but hey, that's how we make beer. Of course, mycoprotein doesn't sound as nice. Before I fell off the veggie wagon, I found it useful, sometimes I liked a kind of meaty texture in chili and things. Yeah, yeah, proper vegetarians and all that.

Quorn isn't strictly speaking vegetarian, same applies to all fungi as they exist as a third separate kingdom, they aren't animals but they aren't plants either.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

ian

Re: 'Veggie' meat dishes
« Reply #26 on: 22 March, 2017, 08:31:51 pm »
We're all Opisthokonts though.

I think, unless things have changed since I was an evil molecular geneticist, there are three domains (archaea, bacteria, and eukaryota). There's six kingdoms/groups/supergroups (depending on your taxonomic bent) in the eukaryota (animals, plants, fungi, brown algae and their drinking buddies, amoeba and slime moulds, and a couple of different groups of protista that we used to merge together but it turned out that when we looked that their genetics and rRNA they were really rather different*, other than being mutually small and squishy. Very small squishiness turned out not be a very useful taxonomic characteristic. Fungi are more closely related to animals than plants, but that doesn't mean much.

*six is a bit arbitrary, people keep finding things that don't fit, but then taxonomical boundaries require some arbitrariness. And there's a movement against strict definitions and hierarchies as it's all a bit Victorian, and life is, it seems, a rather messy affair. And what the fuck we do with colossal bellends like Piers Morgan and Katie Hopkins, no one knows, but we're sure no taxonomical groups want them.

Martin

Re: 'Veggie' meat dishes
« Reply #27 on: 23 March, 2017, 11:20:11 am »
I like the veggie sausages partly because I avoid pigs as part of my not-eating-cute-animals policy and partly because they taste nice.

I don't think there's anything wrong with liking the taste / texture of meat type items without actually eating meat. I didn't give up meat because I disliked the taste / texture (although i don't miss the gristle little hard white bits and fat that Quorn lacks), it was mostly for health / compassion grounds (although the latest Vegan posters would dispute this)

and also it was just after my (German born, lived in the war) Mum had made a turkey curry about 10 days after Christmas, the people who make mechanically recovered meat would have been  proud of her!  :sick:

anyone remember SosMix? that really was horrible, they also made a version for shaping into bacon-stylee burgers