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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #50 on: 18 September, 2015, 09:25:58 pm »
Someone should probably flesh out this a bit, while the history is being put together:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London%E2%80%93Edinburgh%E2%80%93London

Currently it just says "Harmless"

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #51 on: 19 September, 2015, 08:55:21 am »
One of the oddities is that LEL has always had an organiser living in Yorkshire, which is logical actually. Simon Doughty helped a lot in 2005, but wasn't the listed organiser. The controller meetings are held in York. The agendas and minutes of those would make interesting reading. It's LEL history, but outside the remit of a brief resume for a website.

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #52 on: 21 September, 2015, 05:33:35 pm »
Mainly a question for salvatore and bus shelter bertie.

This picture is said by salvatore to be at the start of the 1993 LEL and by BSB to be 2001:



Can either of you deny/confirm your date is wrong/right!?!
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

Phil W

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #53 on: 21 September, 2015, 06:16:05 pm »
Mainly a question for salvatore and bus shelter bertie.

This picture is said by salvatore to be at the start of the 1993 LEL and by BSB to be 2001:



Can either of you deny/confirm your date is wrong/right!?!

Car registration behind them points most likely to be 93

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #54 on: 21 September, 2015, 06:44:54 pm »
BSB says "I have checked my reasoning for remembering it to be 2001, and find that I am in error. Apart from that my memory is shocking and Salvatore's is good. On that basis, we can agree on 1993."

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #55 on: 21 September, 2015, 09:41:43 pm »
Looking at some of the youthful faces there I'd place the picture some considerable time before 2001!
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #56 on: 21 September, 2015, 10:52:48 pm »
1. Keith Benton (I think)
2. Rikki Goode
3. Pete Gifford
4. Peter Coulson
5. Roy Goodbier
6, 7 ??
8. Salvatore
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #57 on: 21 September, 2015, 10:57:31 pm »
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #58 on: 21 September, 2015, 11:05:31 pm »
That black jacket last saw service in France last month.
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #59 on: 21 September, 2015, 11:08:03 pm »
BSB says "I have checked my reasoning for remembering it to be 2001, and find that I am in error. Apart from that my memory is shocking and Salvatore's is good. On that basis, we can agree on 1993."

These are the 8 of the 26 who had ridden in 1989 and turned up in 1993.
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #60 on: 21 September, 2015, 11:09:58 pm »
Looking at some of the youthful faces there I'd place the picture some considerable time before 2001!

BSB hasn't changed at all. I think must have a picture in his attic.
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #61 on: 22 September, 2015, 12:04:03 am »
I don't think Giraffe (Peter Coulson) did LEL in 2001.

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #62 on: 22 September, 2015, 08:43:45 am »
I don't think Giraffe (Peter Coulson) did LEL in 2001.

You are right, my records show he rode only the 1st 3 (1989, 1993,1997).  Keith Benton rode 1989, 1997 and Roy Goodbier, only the 1st one, so I reckon that would put the picture in 1989.

Ah, I've just seen the flaw in my logic - I'm only looking at validations, and so any DNSs or DNFs would spoil my deductions. 

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #63 on: 22 September, 2015, 10:04:10 am »
I don't think Giraffe (Peter Coulson) did LEL in 2001.

You are right, my records show he rode only the 1st 3 (1989, 1993,1997).  Keith Benton rode 1989, 1997 and Roy Goodbier, only the 1st one, so I reckon that would put the picture in 1989.

Ah, I've just seen the flaw in my logic - I'm only looking at validations, and so any DNSs or DNFs would spoil my deductions.

1993 - Keith stopped at home in York to sleep on the way back from Scotland, and stayed there. (It was very wet and cold) . Roy started on a tandem with his wife Lorraine,  and they packed in Scotland, I think.
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #64 on: 22 September, 2015, 10:06:58 am »
A letter to save hudson in shoreham by tea will probably produce a cornucopia of info.....
Besides, it wouldn't be audacious if success were guaranteed.

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #65 on: 30 September, 2015, 11:01:34 am »
Could you include something on the ladies?  We have been a small and exclusive bunch until recently. Not many repeat offenders plus fist laid back LEL on last edition by Vicki Tyer.

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #66 on: 30 September, 2015, 12:11:10 pm »
Could you include something on the ladies? 

An interesting stat about LEL 2013:

6% of starters were ladies,
7% of finishers were ladies.

Something weird must have happened in between.

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #67 on: 30 September, 2015, 12:19:46 pm »
A higher percentage of men DNFed.
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #68 on: 30 September, 2015, 12:20:32 pm »
Could you include something on the ladies? 

An interesting stat about LEL 2013:

6% of starters were ladies,
7% of finishers were ladies.

Something weird must have happened in between.

Not at all.  A higher percentage of non-ladies failed to finish (94% of the starters, 93% of the finishers).

X-posted with Mr LWB (a non-lady)

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #69 on: 30 September, 2015, 12:47:32 pm »
It's OK Ian H,

I'm a repeat offender on LEL and trying to keep a low profile.  The number crunchers on the AUK website do seem to be keeping a beady eye on us though.

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #70 on: 30 September, 2015, 12:55:20 pm »
Could you include something on the ladies?  We have been a small and exclusive bunch until recently. Not many repeat offenders plus first laid back LEL on last edition by Vicki Tyer.

Ahem - Linda Johnston, LEL '05


Here 4th from right is Lucy Mctaggart (as is), LEL '01  (this is actually the 1st photo I ever took with a (borrowed) digital camera)


I'll try to dig out a LEL photo of Suzie Gray, class of '93.
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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #71 on: 30 September, 2015, 01:04:32 pm »
Solo and tandem isn't quite the same thing, whether upright or recumbent, but yes Linda rode in a laid-back (albeit reversed) position at LEL05.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #72 on: 30 September, 2015, 02:41:14 pm »
The number crunchers on the AUK website do seem to be keeping a beady eye on us though.

 ;D

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Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #73 on: 30 September, 2015, 02:45:36 pm »
when you're dead you're done, so let the good times roll

Re: Compiling a more complete history of LEL - HELP NEEDED!
« Reply #74 on: 30 September, 2015, 04:54:24 pm »
Vicki rode solo bent. Not the same as the push me pull me tandem that Linda rode. Therefore Vicki still in the first category as it takes some courage and ability to ride solo bent as a lady around grand brevets.