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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #25 on: 19 August, 2022, 01:44:00 pm »
Frustrating that they are not giving us lap splits. Makes it pointless watching

Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #26 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:01:22 pm »
Ha it started yet, timer at 60:00, and no stats showing?

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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #27 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:03:53 pm »
Yep. The only clues are the occasional updates by the commentator. Who isn't too sure if he's up on schedule. Or not.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #28 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:06:23 pm »
It's poignant that this is taking place the same week as Mike Burrows' death - particularly with Bigham being reminiscent of Obree in many ways.

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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #29 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:20:29 pm »
18 seconds up with 10 minutes to go. Allegedly.
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« Reply #30 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:30:25 pm »
Got it

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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #31 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:32:10 pm »
55.54 km
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #32 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:36:03 pm »
He's only gone and bl@@dy done it, made himself a world record breaker.  Well done that man!

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« Reply #33 on: 19 August, 2022, 02:56:54 pm »
He's only gone and bl@@dy done it, made himself a world record breaker.  Well done that man!

Yeah, indeed... it shows what can be achieved with the right approach, even without Van Aert's or Ganna's engines...

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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #34 on: 10 October, 2022, 12:42:00 am »
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #35 on: 12 October, 2022, 10:15:22 pm »
Didn't want to start a new thread, but has a streamlined recumbent ever tried an hour on a 250m indoor track?
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #36 on: 12 October, 2022, 11:45:57 pm »
Fast Freddy Markham in the Gold Rush did 60.35 km on the Major Taylor Velodrome in Indianapolis back in 1984 but that's the last one I can say was definitely set on a velodrome.  He subsequently did 67.01 km in Vancouver BC but I don't know what the track was for that one.  All subsequent hour records have been done on car test track ovals, with the current record being 92.43 km by Francesco Russo on the DEKRA track in 2016.

A 250m track isn’t really designed for that sort of thing so the speed attainable is limited as much by the amount of common sense possessed by the rider as it is by their power output.  Well I recall Vinz Burgherr decking his brand-new and impossibly shiny Birk Comet on the Ghent-Blaarmeersen track when the front tyre lost interest in gripping the track at about 70 km/h.  Did about half a lap on its side.  Lovely shiny paintwork all scratched.  Rider philosophical: it's a bike, not an artwork.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #37 on: 12 October, 2022, 11:57:25 pm »
Thanks Mr L, I was idly wondering if there was a "shape/size of track" limit as well as a CdA/Crr vs human power limit.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #38 on: 13 October, 2022, 12:45:12 am »
Further interrogation of Mr Google suggests that the Vancouver area didn’t have a velodrome in 1986 when Fast Freddy set that record, as the China Creek track (250 m outdoors, built 1954) was demolished in 1980 and the indoor Burnaby one was opened in 1997.
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« Reply #39 on: 13 October, 2022, 08:17:19 am »
If it just has to be 'a velodrome' then Herne Hill is longer (450m IIRC).   The motor pacing on there was fun to watch and I seem to remember them saying 60mph +.   Outdoors, though.....

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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #40 on: 13 October, 2022, 08:31:28 am »
The advantages of an indoor velodrome are a smoother surface, no headwinds and (given a long enough event) the movement of cycles creates their own tailwind. Moscow’s 1980 Olympic velodrome angled the A/C ducts to create a tailwind from scratch. Outdoor velodromes lose all of that but the larger corner radii reduces rolling resistance.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #41 on: 13 October, 2022, 10:48:42 am »
About 25 years ago there was talk of someone building an indoor one mile oval car race track.  USAnia, natch.  Nothing ever came of it.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #42 on: 13 October, 2022, 10:35:57 pm »
The advantages of an indoor velodrome are a smoother surface, no headwinds and (given a long enough event) the movement of cycles creates their own tailwind. Moscow’s 1980 Olympic velodrome angled the A/C ducts to create a tailwind from scratch. Outdoor velodromes lose all of that but the larger corner radii reduces rolling resistance.

Also the temperature can be increased substantially to reduce air pressure.

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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #43 on: 13 October, 2022, 11:59:24 pm »
Nice C Boardman noted this during a quiet moment on the Tour last year; he recommended that prospective hour record candidates should not bother goIng to Mexico/Colombia/Bolivia but rather go to Manchester and crank up the thermostat.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #44 on: 14 October, 2022, 10:04:14 pm »
Bit off topic, but Ganna has today beaten the World Individual Pursuit record in the world champs.
First sub 4 mins at sea level
Two world records in a week - one taking an hour, the other less than 4 minutes.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #45 on: 14 October, 2022, 10:18:55 pm »
In response to Mr L
I just re-watched "The Final Hour" when Nice C Boardman set the "athletes hour" /broke eddy mercks's reset record. God that was emotional.

Matt Rendall, Gary Imlach, Dr Hutch all involved in the TV thing too.

Nice to see Pandemic Productions check the CVS of their staff.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #46 on: 15 October, 2022, 12:49:52 am »
* Mr Larrington wonders whether Team Policumbent can persuade him that what he needs next September is an all expenses paid holiday in the arse end of Nevada :demon:  François Pervis has already said he's coming back in spite of the total demolition job done to Altaïr 6 with him at the helm this year.
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Re: Dowsett to attempt to regain hour record.
« Reply #47 on: 29 October, 2022, 12:28:59 pm »
As there's been a bit of thread drift, the Obree documentary is on Youtube now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKta3RPyLIo