Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 841521 times)

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1025 on: 14 September, 2010, 11:47:40 am »
You wouldn't want dissociated principles, would you?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1026 on: 14 September, 2010, 11:57:45 am »
Quote from: chap on the wireless a couple of minutes ago
Little grass snakes should be coming out precisely about now

::-)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1027 on: 14 September, 2010, 12:07:00 pm »
Quote from: chap on the wireless a couple of minutes ago
Little grass snakes should be coming out precisely about now

::-)

Easy. They're coming out in a precise fashion - ie without repetition, hesitation or deviation - and they're doing it about now. ;)

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clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1028 on: 14 September, 2010, 12:51:57 pm »
Quote from: chap on the wireless a couple of minutes ago
Little grass snakes should be coming out precisely about now

::-)

Easy. They're coming out in a precise fashion - ie without repetition, hesitation or deviation - and they're doing it about now. ;)

d.


You are correct, of course, and I hang my head in shame for not understanding that ;)
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clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1029 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:07:44 pm »
Quote from: 'nother chap on the wireless
a Loo tenant in His Majesty's army

Not grammar, I know, but basic pronunciation error. >:(
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1030 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:21:13 pm »
Quote from: 'nother chap on the wireless
a Loo tenant in His Majesty's army

Not grammar, I know, but basic pronunciation error. >:(

Yeah.  Everyone knows it's loyt-nant. ;)
 
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1031 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:24:56 pm »
Oh dear, I feel a mis-pronunciation thread (or at least a major diversion of this one) coming on.

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1032 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:27:20 pm »
Quote from: 'nother chap on the wireless
a Loo tenant in His Majesty's army

Not grammar, I know, but basic pronunciation error. >:(

Yeah.  Everyone knows it's loyt-nant. ;)
 

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Manotea

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1033 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:36:28 pm »
When did it become compulsory to refer to our soldiers as troopers?

Is it some kind of pinko bleeding heart PC doublethink conspiracy?

border-rider

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1034 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:44:04 pm »
If they were members of a cavalry regiment then it would be the correct address, I think.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1035 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:46:10 pm »
When did it become compulsory to refer to our soldiers as troopers?
OK when referring to cavalry regiments but infantry ?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1036 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:47:14 pm »
Infants?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1037 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:49:56 pm »
If they were members of a cavalry regiment then it would be the correct address, I think.

Army Air Corps and some artillery regiments as well (those that used to be horse artillery).
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Chris S

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1038 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:51:46 pm »
I'm assuming the correct pronunciation is "Leff-tenant".

If so - where else in the English language (or anywhere for that matter) do the letters "Lieu" make a "Leff" sound ???

border-rider

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1039 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:57:58 pm »
It's cos it comes from the French, and there has been a certain amount of confusion over w and f sounds at various times long past in various places...

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1040 on: 14 September, 2010, 04:59:14 pm »
ISTR it came via Belgium, which adds another layer of pronunciation difficulty.

However it came about, we have a correct way to pronounce the word, and the Army are clear about their usage.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1041 on: 14 September, 2010, 05:00:23 pm »
I'm assuming the correct pronunciation is "Leff-tenant".

If so - where else in the English language (or anywhere for that matter) do the letters "Lieu" make a "Leff" sound ???

Since when has English pronunciation and spelling been regular ? You just have to accept that some words are not pronounced phonetically or even in the same way as other words with similar spelling or indeed similar meaning.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1042 on: 14 September, 2010, 06:43:18 pm »
When did it become compulsory to refer to our soldiers...

Our soldiers - I hate the phrase. They're British soldiers. You may think of them as your soldiers, but please don't involve me.

border-rider

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1043 on: 14 September, 2010, 06:52:38 pm »
Indeed

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Chris S

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1044 on: 14 September, 2010, 07:16:17 pm »
One Show - BBC 1 - just now.

"Balsall Heath is a much pleasanter place to be."

*snigger*  :facepalm:

clarion

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1045 on: 14 September, 2010, 08:53:25 pm »
... we have a correct way to pronounce the word, and the Army are clear about their usage.

Come on, pay attention at the back.


You've lost me with your first highlight, though I accept that the Army should agree to a singular.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1046 on: 14 September, 2010, 09:58:33 pm »
Oh, protest. On it's own it means "bear witness for". Pro as in for, and test as in testament. You can protest your faith, as lots of martyrs have died doing.

If you don't like something you can protest against it.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1047 on: 14 September, 2010, 10:01:10 pm »
When did it become compulsory to refer to our soldiers...

Our soldiers - I hate the phrase. They're British soldiers. You may think of them as your soldiers, but please don't involve me.

Absolutely right! They are nothing whatever to do with me.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1048 on: 14 September, 2010, 11:12:54 pm »
Not grammar but what seems to be a very nasty neologism.  The team from Missouri University of SCIENCE and Technology have a mini-bus, which proclaims on the side, in big friendly letters, that this particular department is "experiential"  ???
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #1049 on: 14 September, 2010, 11:15:59 pm »
They develop technology through their experiences of the world? Or summat like dat. Unless it's just a typo...
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