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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5225 on: 14 March, 2019, 05:09:50 pm »
Yebbut he does it wrongly.
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ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5226 on: 14 March, 2019, 05:43:43 pm »
He's the bestly wrong though.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5227 on: 14 March, 2019, 06:32:10 pm »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.

Wrong is generally accepted as an adverb these days.

It's still bloody inelegant.

Flashbacks to having "-ly!" shouted at me by parents, in that tone usually used for pulling you up for dropping 't's.

It's one of those things I'll do in speech and informal[1] text, but not in writing. 
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Yeah, I'll go with that.

I think of "wrong" as being a shortening of "wrongly" in this context.

Perhaps it should have an apostrophe to represent the missing letters? That seems like a rule that would make the world a better place.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5228 on: 14 March, 2019, 06:37:03 pm »
Your not wron'g about that.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5229 on: 14 March, 2019, 07:27:26 pm »
That seems like a rule that would make the world a better place.

Behave!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5230 on: 15 March, 2019, 10:44:41 am »
Not to be confused with antimony-laundering systems, of course.

I'd go with "anti-money laundering systems" for pretty much the reasons helly states.

Yes, but that looks like someone is laundering 'anti-money' which is a thing in my wallet that annihilates real money while I stand in the pub.

I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.
That would be great but alas AML is the standard acronym.

AML is, as any fule kno, the standard abbreviation for Aston Martin-Lagonda.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5231 on: 15 March, 2019, 01:07:23 pm »
That seems like a rule that would make the world a better place.

Behave!

To which my son once replied "I am being have!" (To rhyme with wave.) He was about 3, I think.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5232 on: 15 March, 2019, 01:09:25 pm »
Not to be confused with antimony-laundering systems, of course.

I'd go with "anti-money laundering systems" for pretty much the reasons helly states.

Yes, but that looks like someone is laundering 'anti-money' which is a thing in my wallet that annihilates real money while I stand in the pub.

I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.
That would be great but alas AML is the standard acronym.

AML is, as any fule kno, the standard abbreviation for Aston Martin-Lagonda.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5233 on: 15 March, 2019, 01:10:03 pm »
Not to be confused with antimony-laundering systems, of course.

I'd go with "anti-money laundering systems" for pretty much the reasons helly states.

Yes, but that looks like someone is laundering 'anti-money' which is a thing in my wallet that annihilates real money while I stand in the pub.

I'd go with 'systems to prevent money laundering' and disavow the hyphenation.
That would be great but alas AML is the standard acronym.

AML is, as any fule kno, the standard abbreviation for Aston Martin-Lagonda.
If I bought one of those, it would definitely be an Anti Money-Lagonda.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5234 on: 15 March, 2019, 07:50:00 pm »
Why would you want a Lagonda made from antimony?

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5235 on: 15 March, 2019, 07:55:19 pm »
From the DRM thread, the use of 'rip' to mean 'burn', in the style of people using 'borrow' to mean 'lend'.

(Directional verbs are clunky as hell in spoken languages.)

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5236 on: 16 March, 2019, 12:58:29 pm »
Beeb: "Viral food hack shows we've been eating pineapple wrong this entire time."  Wrongly or the wrong way, please.

Wrong is generally accepted as an adverb these days.

It's still bloody inelegant.

Flashbacks to having "-ly!" shouted at me by parents, in that tone usually used for pulling you up for dropping 't's.

It's one of those things I'll do in speech and informal[1] text, but not in writing. 
<snip>
Yeah, I'll go with that.

I think of "wrong" as being a shortening of "wrongly" in this context.

Perhaps it should have an apostrophe to represent the missing letters? That seems like a rule that would make the world a better place.
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Diana Ross rebelled, arguing
"You've written it wrongly,
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Though she made her case real strongly, she had to sing it full strongly.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5237 on: 16 March, 2019, 01:32:28 pm »
To which my son once replied "I am being have!" (To rhyme with wave.) He was about 3, I think.

Genius!
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5238 on: 16 March, 2019, 01:50:26 pm »
Yeah. He ain't no dumb cluck.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5239 on: 16 March, 2019, 08:37:33 pm »
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You will often find ourselves "filtering" whilst on cycle patrol, motorcycle patrol or on #OpClosePass with no harm to ourselves or other road users.
West Midlands police.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5240 on: 16 March, 2019, 09:20:35 pm »
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You will often find ourselves "filtering" whilst on cycle patrol, motorcycle patrol or on #OpClosePass with no harm to ourselves or other road users.
West Midlands police.

Close relative of 'yourself' as used by mistake agents and similar bureaucratic mustelids?

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5241 on: 16 March, 2019, 09:29:45 pm »
Either that or 'you' was a typo(??!??) for 'we'.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5242 on: 19 March, 2019, 02:45:40 pm »
Not cringeworthy at all: after untold decades of knowing what imprecations are, I actually looked up imprecate and was delighted to find that it means "to call down by prayer"; and while it's usually evil that's requested one might equally ask for a tin of Quality Street.

How nice.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5243 on: 19 March, 2019, 08:02:52 pm »
Asking for a tin of Roses would, however, be evil.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5244 on: 20 March, 2019, 03:31:06 pm »
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You will often find ourselves "filtering" whilst on cycle patrol, motorcycle patrol or on #OpClosePass with no harm to ourselves or other road users.
West Midlands police.

Close relative of 'yourself' as used by mistake agents and similar bureaucratic mustelids?

Argh!!! See also, "If you have any queries, please contact myself."  A sizeable number of my colleagues write like that.  It drives me up the wall.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5245 on: 21 March, 2019, 11:34:02 am »
Mine too.
I'd love to see the Venn diagram for people who incorrectly use reflexive pronoun, and people who use the word utilise/ze with gay abandon.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5246 on: 21 March, 2019, 12:39:39 pm »
Reading a book set in Dublin, I once again came across the use of "bring" where I would use "take" as in "the hurl that he always brought with with him" as opposed to "the hurl he always took with him", the sense being that was was always carried by the individual. I think that either is fine, but it falls down for me when the expression "He brought me to the shops" is used to mean the speaker had been taken to the shops, but is not necessarily still there, so the sense is "took".
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5247 on: 21 March, 2019, 03:25:26 pm »
Today I have a question for this thread!

In the phrase "our anti money laundering systems" where would you place hyphens?
anti-money-laundering systems
anti-money laundering systems
anti money-laundering systems
anti-moneylaundering systems

They all look a bit wrong to me (including leaving them all out).
Today I have "non-US dollar based partners," which I've rendered as written. Seems quite simple in comparison (and sadly devoid of chemical pun potential).
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5248 on: 21 March, 2019, 05:35:04 pm »
One that made me stop and think for a moment today was "immune system-boosting nutrients".
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5249 on: 27 March, 2019, 11:04:45 am »
An actor, or a witness in court, might give a credible performance.  A footballer might give a creditable performance.  Sportsball pundits, get your shit outsorted.