Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Arts and Entertainment => Topic started by: CommuteTooFar on 24 June, 2019, 08:19:02 pm
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I have created this thread so those of us who are so inclined can discuss the computer games they play.
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I play a game call Stormfall Age Of War. It is a slightly strategic multi-player castle building and fighting game.
It is free to play and is playable without spending real money. It takes a lot of time. If you are millionaire or simply without any sense of value you can spend money to short cut time. That is how many modern games work.
If you like to try it download the plarium app
https://plarium.com/en/plarium-play/ (https://plarium.com/en/plarium-play/)
or I get a reward if you do it this way
https://desktop.plarium.com/en/open/?a=invite%2FeyJJbnZpdGVyIjoxMDUwODI4MywiQ2x1c3RlcklkIjowLCJUaGVtZUlkIjowLCJHYW1lSWQiOjQsIkFwcElkIjoxNiwiTGFuZ3VhZ2VJZCI6MX0uMjYwYTc0MWI4NzQ1ZjY4NDU4ZDM2MGVmMTEwMjY0MmI1
(https://desktop.plarium.com/en/open/?a=invite%2FeyJJbnZpdGVyIjoxMDUwODI4MywiQ2x1c3RlcklkIjowLCJUaGVtZUlkIjowLCJHYW1lSWQiOjQsIkFwcElkIjoxNiwiTGFuZ3VhZ2VJZCI6MX0uMjYwYTc0MWI4NzQ1ZjY4NDU4ZDM2MGVmMTEwMjY0MmI1)
Choose Stormfall Age Of War from the App
select server "Untamed Lands"
folllow the hints to learn how to play.
When the game suggests you join a league choose Black Shield if you want to be in same league as me [ We need members ]
It can also be played from a Web browser or from facebook. Not recommended the app is much more responsive.
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Elite: Dangerous is my current time suck.
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I quit a 2 year addiction to Forge of Empires last August when I realised it was ruining my life :facepalm:
'You're always on the computer' says my wife.... 'I'm working...' [/lie] :-[
So currently I try to limit myself with brainless stuff that I can let go. It's amazing that shit like Bubblewitch 3 can suck almost as much of your life away if you don't have WILLPOWER :facepalm:
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Path of Exile for me. Free to play and no play to win involved.
Game is regularly updated with new content.
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Elite: Dangerous
Warframe
I have both on PC and PS4, but pretty much only play games on the console; PCs are for work.
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Im partial to a spot of Fat Worm Blows a Sparky on the old zx spectrum!
Currently playing Prey on the PS4. Seems to be trying to copy Alien Isolation, but failing miserably. Enjoyable enough, but certainly isn't as scary as Alien Isolation.. Especially when the Synths in Alien Isolation (who look like resusci-dummies) start throttling your game character while saying "you are becoming hysterical" :o
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Heh, I can't play scary games. #2 son bought me "The last of us" for PS4 a couple of years back, and I just can't play it - it's far too scary!
What a wuss... :facepalm:
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Elite: Dangerous
Warframe
I have both on PC and PS4, but pretty much only play games on the console; PCs are for work.
Shame as we can’t wing up as far as I understand it as I’m on PC.
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Elite: Dangerous
Warframe
I have both on PC and PS4, but pretty much only play games on the console; PCs are for work.
Shame as we can’t wing up as far as I understand it as I’m on PC.
Correct - no cross-platform instancing. Same for Warframe - in fact the only game I've seen cross-platform instancing is Fortnite - and that was only after it got all legal and messy.
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Where is the best place or way to buy computer games?
The last game I bought was Ultima 9 a long time ago. I know nothing.
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Where is the best place or way to buy computer games?
The last game I bought was Ultima 9 a long time ago. I know nothing.
These days online seems to be the norm on PC. Mine doesn’t have any CD / DVD drive.
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I am currently playing "Rise of the Tomb Raider".
According to the youtube reviewers my system is not good enough because they have decided that a screen rendering rate of over 60 frames per second is required to enjoy a game. I have been reading hardware reviews for years. Ten years ago it was hard to find any affordable Graphics card that could do 30fps. I get more than that and I am happy. No need to turn down any processes.
My system
Processor: AMD Ryzen 2600X (not overclocked)
Motherboard: MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic
Ram: 16 GB DDR4-2933 (Max non overclocked speed for this processor)
Graphics card: AMD Rx 570
Monitor: Iiyama PL2792Q IPS 2560 x 1440
To make it better is expensive for me.
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TBH, I never really got my head round the way high frame rates are essential for gaming but bad for watching films. It's not like any modern hardware gives you the authentic Doom-onna-386SX single-digit frame rate experience. ???
50 interlaced fields per second should be enough for anyone. Or something.
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Probably OK when using a screen; less so for VR where low frame rates can quickly lead to :sick:.
ETA: In other news, I noticed that Kerbal Space Program was knocked down to £7.95 on Steam, so took the plunge. I'd been avoiding it because I'm prone to getting addicted to that kind of thing. Luckily, I appear to be hopeless at it, so I'm happy to take my time over it.
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Probably OK when using a screen; less so for VR where low frame rates can quickly lead to :sick:.
GPWM. TBH, I find any first-person 3D environment leads to :sick: within about half an hour or so, unless the viewport is so restrictive that my brain doesn't interpret it as a 3D environment properly, and I have no sense of orientation in the virtual world (which is shit for games).
This has a lot to do with my general disinterest in modern gaming.
Can't remember the last time I used a VR headset (unless establishing that google cardboard doesn't work with my glasses counts). It may have actually been the now legendary W Industries Virtuality machine.
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We got three of the new Oculus Rift S models at work.. The resolution is much better then the old Rift we had.
Still not as good as a decent monitor but a significant improvement.
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I have upgraded my computer.
The rise of tomb raider bench marks looks different. It now displays atmospheric effects, rain and snow. With the new more powerful hardware the frames per second has dropped :-).
My system
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3700X
Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
Ram: 32 GB DDR4-3200 CL-16 (Ballistix Sport LT)
Graphics card: MSI Mech 5700 OC
Monitor: Iiyama PL2792Q IPS 2560 x 1440
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Have gone VR. Flying around space and can stand up and walk around space ship cabin. Not very far but it’s pretty immersive. Mostly not feeling sick but spinning slowly approaching a space station feels a bit odd.
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Have gone VR. Flying around space and can stand up and walk around space ship cabin. Not very far but it’s pretty immersive. Mostly not feeling sick but spinning slowly approaching a space station feels a bit odd.
Assuming this is E:D, take an SRV for a spin on a low-g planet, and see how that goes. If you can do that without nausea, you're a natural and should be signed up for the ESA astronaut programme immediately :thumbsup:.
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Have gone VR. Flying around space and can stand up and walk around space ship cabin. Not very far but it’s pretty immersive. Mostly not feeling sick but spinning slowly approaching a space station feels a bit odd.
Assuming this is E:D, take an SRV for a spin on a low-g planet, and see how that goes. If you can do that without nausea, you're a natural and should be signed up for the ESA astronaut programme immediately :thumbsup:.
Not tried SRV yet. I used to sail a lot as a kid and tended not to get seasick but SRV might be a challenge.
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Dammit, you're making me want to play computer games. I loved Frontier. (I was a bit too young to get the hang of the original Elite.)
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When lying in bed early the night before an early shift: Cossacks
When on a day off and bored: World of Tanks Blitz, or World of Warships.
I ignore the sexism and stupidity on WoT, but sometimes it is impossible, such as when two members of a 'platoon' allegedly on my team wedged my vehicle into a corner until the game was lost. I suspect it was done in response to my clearly female username. The other effect of THAT is an endless stream of friend requests (ignored).
Cossacks takes hours to play a game; WoT is a seven minute round.
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I've been addicted to Freecell for decades ;D ;D ;D
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Elite Dangerous in VR can be awe inspiring in a very non-competitive, no particular purpose, I wonder what's over there kind of way. Over there is quite often a considerable distance.
I'm starting to get quite serious about sim-racing - which is starting to get taken quite seriously. I was asked to help some friends with set-ups and strategy for a new car in an endurance league. After a test event it looks like we could be elevated to the top division. There is a licencing system in the league, but you can gain direct access to Division One if you hold an FIA super licence. I've already raced against Max in a one off event.
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Dammit, you're making me want to play computer games. I loved Frontier. (I was a bit too young to get the hang of the original Elite.)
"Elite was pretty fronty, but Elite II is..." ~ Rednose Comix
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Yesterday I bought Tomb Raider
Sometimes stepping back to an older game (from Rise of the Tomb Raider) can expose less than ideal controls, sound or graphics.
I can not complain I only paid £3.
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When lying in bed early the night before an early shift: Cossacks
When on a day off and bored: World of Tanks Blitz, or World of Warships.
I ignore the sexism and stupidity on WoT, but sometimes it is impossible, such as when two members of a 'platoon' allegedly on my team wedged my vehicle into a corner until the game was lost. I suspect it was done in response to my clearly female username. The other effect of THAT is an endless stream of friend requests (ignored).
Cossacks takes hours to play a game; WoT is a seven minute round.
I play WoT and WoWS on the PC. If you ever want to div up I am happy to. User name is the same as this one. :)
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Yesterday I completed the story of "Shadow of the Tomb Raider". Not 100% I did not do all optional sections.
I have enjoyed "Tomb Raider", "Rise Of The Tomb Raider" and "Shadow of The Tomb Raider".
What next?
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I am currently dowloading Hitman. Its taking ages.
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Nvidia have launched a new series of Graphics cards. They appear much more powerful and they have not pushed the price of these high end cards. They are still a long way above my budget. AMD are launching a new series this Autumn too. It will be interesting to see how the "Big Navi" card compares to the new Nvidia items.
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Which, it is said, may be too powerful for your PSU.
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I have a GTX 1080Ti. It is not up to the stuff I've been running lately. RTX 3090 is 3.2x more shader performance. I'll be getting one in a new PC build once things have settled down. The 3080 may be sufficient, and is a lot cheaper.
Edit: The 3080 is significantly more powerful than the rumours suggested, and the price is very attractive. I'd be really kicking myself if I'd bought a 2080x in the last 6 months.
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Which, it is said, may be too powerful for your PSU.
I have a 650W 80+ Platimum PSU shouuld be good enough for 3080 which I will not be buying. The new AMD cards should be quite good with power. Unless they push the clocks in response to Nvidia, that really demands power.
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Nvidia says 750W but that is with a silly Intel CPU. I only have a AMD 3700X
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2070 in the big bugger upstairs but fortunately I bought it a couple of years ago rather than last week.
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I want to see independent reviews. No computer companies marketing department can be trusted to tell the whole truth.
And beyond that there are questions such as does PCIe 4.0 matter now the gpus can process more data. There have only been one or two games so far that run better on PCIe 4 than PCIe 3 with the slower AMD 5700XT (until now the fastest PCIe 4 card). If so does Intel lose the gaming crown. No current Intel system can do PCIe 4, although some Z490 motherboards may support it with a future cpu.
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I have an AMD 5700XT in my gaming computer, and an Nvidia 1080Ti in my other one (which really just runs Zwift these days). The 5700XT is great for QHD screens, but several games (including Prepar3D v5) don't talk happily with it, so I will replace it with a 3090 in a month or so. Shame, the 5700XT had lots of potential, but unrealised.
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I play No Man's Sky on PC. Been playing it since it was new 4 years ago. So it's just a bit samey. But I don't have the willpower to try something else. Can't think of anything I might like.
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I was wrong, PCIe 4.0 only improves the rate by 1 or 2 frames per sec,
Nvidia 3080 is a little less quick than they claimed but is still a big jump forward.
As usual they all sold out quickly. I do not understand why people are so impatient. More will appear in a few months time. Maybe a better one will appear when AMD launch a competitive card (Announcement late October). When AMD launched 5700 and 5700XT which were a tiny bit better than Nvidia 2060 and 2070 respectively Nvidia released 2060 Super and 2070 Super to retain marginal superiority over the AMD cards, The 5700XT sits between 2070 and 2070 Super. The 5700 marginally beats the 2060 Super. AMD could not release a competitor for the 2080. AMD could release a card to beat the 3080 but they may not want to.
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3700? ITYM 5700!
See my post above. I have the 5700XT in a computer with the Ryzen 9 3900X 12-core CPU. As a combination it’s quick, but it has odd compatibility problems with some games (P3D being the worst in my library). My older box has a 1080Ti with an i5 6xxxk. It really isn’t that much slower - and the 1080Ti is probably a match for the 5700XT in most applications. The AMD card was cheaper, though, and is still good value.
I’ve just learned that a 20Gb 3080 is waiting in the wings. I suspect that’ll be much better value than the 3090, so I’m debating my options now...
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I get confused by part numbers
3700/5700. I corrected the post two back.
I have a 5700 card slightly overclocked by MSI. the 5700 had the best frames / second / cost. That was until the new Nvidia 3080, the big improvement and reduced cost has placed that card there for a while.
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I was amazed by the idiots who demand to have the new hardware immediately. I learned a long time ago. Once desirable stuff was often built in the far east I learned that a small amount is shipped by air for the launch. The real launch for the rest of is when a large container ship turns up at Rotterdam or other European port. A lorry carrying a container load drops off a million widgets Amazon or a distributor and we can all get. Sometimes at a better price when the initial demand has subsided.
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I play No Man's Sky on PC. Been playing it since it was new 4 years ago. So it's just a bit samey. But I don't have the willpower to try something else. Can't think of anything I might like.
I tried very hard to like NMS (PS4) and played quite a lot during lockdown.
If you like exploring, and base-building/automation/factory type games - then how about Space Engineers (been around even longer than NMS I think) or Satisfactory (early access, but horribly addictive game-loops)?
NMS is due a big update this week...
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I could hit buy on the PC build I want but I want to see what the benchmarks are for the 3090 (leaks suggest not worth it) and there's no stock anyway, so might as well wait and see whether there are additional options, such as a possible 3080Ti perhaps with more memory.
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I am still waiting to see AMDs offering in October.
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I play No Man's Sky on PC. Been playing it since it was new 4 years ago. So it's just a bit samey. But I don't have the willpower to try something else. Can't think of anything I might like.
I tried very hard to like NMS (PS4) and played quite a lot during lockdown.
If you like exploring, and base-building/automation/factory type games - then how about Space Engineers (been around even longer than NMS I think) or Satisfactory (early access, but horribly addictive game-loops)?
NMS is due a big update this week...
I'm an Elite Dangerous Kickstarter! I do have NMS on the Playstation 4, and the updates have turned it into an interesting an absorbing game. But the sheer scale of ED put it head-and-shoulders above any other space game for freedom of movement and the ability to just do what you want to do. Add to that the amazing integration of VR, and the game is stunning to observe. The pause in in-game narrative over the last six months has tested the playerbase, but that's beginning to be addressed. Almost time for me to dive back in. I may not emerge for a year or two.
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I play No Man's Sky on PC. Been playing it since it was new 4 years ago. So it's just a bit samey. But I don't have the willpower to try something else. Can't think of anything I might like.
I tried very hard to like NMS (PS4) and played quite a lot during lockdown.
If you like exploring, and base-building/automation/factory type games - then how about Space Engineers (been around even longer than NMS I think) or Satisfactory (early access, but horribly addictive game-loops)?
NMS is due a big update this week...
I'm an Elite Dangerous Kickstarter! I do have NMS on the Playstation 4, and the updates have turned it into an interesting an absorbing game. But the sheer scale of ED put it head-and-shoulders above any other space game for freedom of movement and the ability to just do what you want to do. Add to that the amazing integration of VR, and the game is stunning to observe. The pause in in-game narrative over the last six months has tested the playerbase, but that's beginning to be addressed. Almost time for me to dive back in. I may not emerge for a year or two.
The wheels have fallen off Frontier a little in the last year/eighteen months. They have all the hallmarks of a company that's overstretched itself, and ended up losing control.
I've never really liked the whole secret squirrel silent thing that Frontier do regarding futures and roadmaps. Having a closed release schedule is fine until you fuck it up and have to tell your userbase "No new updates for eighteen months". Fuck that. That was the moment I stopped playing E:D.
I was wowed by shops like Digital Extremes (Warframe) who seemed to have an open dialogue running the whole time with their userbase - and would issue software updates along the lines of "Let's see how this goes - let us know if it's pants". This is fine if it's FTP software like Warframe.
New kid on the block in this genre is Dual Universe. I want to like it because it's the closest thing I've seen to a cross-over between E:D and Space Engineers. But it's a "subscription beta". So I have to pay you for the privilege of doing your testing for you? Fuck that. Also - single server MMO? Not sure that's going to scale.
ISTM the market for that one beats all Eve/E:D/Space Engineers/Star Citizen/Dual Universe/NMS MMO is mahoosive - and nobody has quite nailed it yet.
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The 3080 is failing sometimes. Possibly due to inadequate power supplies.
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I play No Man's Sky on PC. Been playing it since it was new 4 years ago. So it's just a bit samey. But I don't have the willpower to try something else. Can't think of anything I might like.
I tried very hard to like NMS (PS4) and played quite a lot during lockdown.
If you like exploring, and base-building/automation/factory type games - then how about Space Engineers (been around even longer than NMS I think) or Satisfactory (early access, but horribly addictive game-loops)?
NMS is due a big update this week...
I'm an Elite Dangerous Kickstarter! I do have NMS on the Playstation 4, and the updates have turned it into an interesting an absorbing game. But the sheer scale of ED put it head-and-shoulders above any other space game for freedom of movement and the ability to just do what you want to do. Add to that the amazing integration of VR, and the game is stunning to observe. The pause in in-game narrative over the last six months has tested the playerbase, but that's beginning to be addressed. Almost time for me to dive back in. I may not emerge for a year or two.
The wheels have fallen off Frontier a little in the last year/eighteen months. They have all the hallmarks of a company that's overstretched itself, and ended up losing control.
I've never really liked the whole secret squirrel silent thing that Frontier do regarding futures and roadmaps. Having a closed release schedule is fine until you fuck it up and have to tell your userbase "No new updates for eighteen months". Fuck that. That was the moment I stopped playing E:D.
I was wowed by shops like Digital Extremes (Warframe) who seemed to have an open dialogue running the whole time with their userbase - and would issue software updates along the lines of "Let's see how this goes - let us know if it's pants". This is fine if it's FTP software like Warframe.
New kid on the block in this genre is Dual Universe. I want to like it because it's the closest thing I've seen to a cross-over between E:D and Space Engineers. But it's a "subscription beta". So I have to pay you for the privilege of doing your testing for you? Fuck that. Also - single server MMO? Not sure that's going to scale.
ISTM the market for that one beats all Eve/E:D/Space Engineers/Star Citizen/Dual Universe/NMS MMO is mahoosive - and nobody has quite nailed it yet.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of DBOBE either. I'm doing some work for a company that has a lot to do with E:D producing payware add-ons. They report that there's been a significant change of approach recently and things are opening up. Let's hope so. Although I hope they don't do a Star Citizen and send more time on interacting with the playerbase than they do on developing the game!
Dual Universe does sound interesting, but I'm not paying to test it either. I agree; there's huge demand for a game that combines the size and freedom of E:D with the narrative and involvement of Eve.
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Dual Universe does sound interesting, but I'm not paying to test it either. I agree; there's huge demand for a game that combines the size and freedom of E:D with the narrative and involvement of Eve.
plus the fucked up physics of Space Engineers ;D.
I once considered what it would be like if E:D had even the Kerbal Space Programme concept of proper orbital mechanics. It would take AGES to get anywhere; one's life would be dominated by injection burns, and manoeuvre nodes. Nah - forget that...!
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That’s why I gave up with Kerbal! It’s great, but it requires serious commitment to get anywhere. I settle for Scott Manley videos to keep me up to date.
Back in the original Elite days, the concept of inertia was very much part of combat, and later versions at least gave a nod to it it some circumstances. ED’s flight engine is a cross between a flight sim and proper space dynamics. It works well enough without becoming too frustrating. There were lots of arguments about it during the Beta phase, but I think the end result is an acceptable compromise.
ED’s big problem is the lack of storyline and a reason for you to be there. Yamiks and Drew Wagar put out a good vid about it the other day (https://youtu.be/h-JoN2rmpjA). The community has driven a number of stories, and they’ve been great, but FD don’t really care - they’ve even asked for payment for third-party story injection. I have information that suggests they’re becoming a bit more flexible about that now, so I’m hopeful that they’ll allow the community to get far more involved in the way that they do in Eve.
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I've been tempted by Kerbal Space Program, but I could see that, as you say, it would take time and commitment. Interested in experiences with it though.
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The 3080 is failing sometimes. Possibly due to inadequate power supplies.
Igors Lab is arguing it the design of the bypass circuit (those capacitors under the GPU chip). Nvidia specifies certain designs. The 3rd Party companies are not allowed to design their own. Some cheaper than others. Of course the AIBs choose one of the cheaper options. Combine this with the partner cards having a slight overclock instability results.
There is a buildzoid ()https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ) you tube video commenting about this.
Avoid the cards for now. Expect redesigns in the next few months.
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Played ED for a long while but lost interest as it was going no where and it all gets a bit samey, even the combat. Lack of new content has been outlined above. For the purists even the on going background narrative/story line was pulled. The overall concept is wonderful but the devs seems to have lost interest.
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The story is back, though not greatly ambitious as yet. A new ‘2-year story arc’ has been embarked upon, which will include the new Odyssey DLC when it arrives early next year (‘space legs’!). I’m not sure how deep it is, but it’s a huge relief after the tumbleweed of the last six months. I don’t think FD have lost interest, but they did lose direction. The bean-counters were definitely in charge in 2018-20, and they did not understand games as created, curated entertainment.
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I think, on the basis that I'm still in my pajamas, that I'm having a rest (lazy) day today.
And I've got the house to myself for a few hours.
Kerbal Space Program it is then, hundreds of hours I've played and it still grabs me every once in a while.
Currently trying to rescue three Kerbonauts that went to The Mun to do SCIENCE and only after I landed did I realise that I didn't have enough fuel to reach Mun orbit let alone get back to the home planet. So the obvious solution was to use the fuel remaining to get as close to orbital velocity as possible and then one by one they jumped out of the airlock and used their wee jetpacks to get into a low orbit.
And now the rescue craft has settled into a slightly higher orbit I've got each kerbal boosted into an orbit that will intersect that of the rescue craft and even got them all arrived with a decent time difference so I'm not juggling all the rendezvous' at the same time. I've probably only got enough jetpack fuel for one attempt each.
The soonest pickup is in twenty minutes and the last in several hours. I'm just glad I don't have the life support mod installed on this playthough because that would mean even tighter margins.
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I see that the 3080 is running into problems due to the manufacturers skimping on power components over the reference card. Nvidia must be furious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bUUEEe-X8
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And charging more for the card. I hope Nvidia removes the licences from those third-party manufacturers that are scamming the public!
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And charging more for the card. I hope Nvidia removes the licences from those third-party manufacturers that are scamming the public!
It is not the third parties fault. They are using designs sanctioned by Nvidia. They were also given very little time to prepare their implementations so not enough time to fully test their offerings. Nvidia demands that the 3rd party makers follow Nvidia's designs for the reference card. They are not allowed to change the components that Nvidia says is ok. Later when special cards are made the 3rd can use their own designs, even then it needs Nvidia's approval. Only then can you accuse the 3rd party makers of using designs and component choices that do not work.
Many of the me too channels on youtube used the term POSCAP to describe the believed faulty component. POSCAPS are probably the easiest capacitors to identify. None of the cards that anyone has shown are using POSCAPS. (The P is POSCAP stands for Panasonic, a high quality Japanese suppliers of electronic components.
The better streams I have seen on youtube on this subject are Actually Hardcore Overclocking and Pauls Hardware. Buildzoid who talks like someone who understand electronics and Paul did testing and showed the fault on Nvidias own Founders Edition card (Not a reference design) by overclocking. Some of the other testing site have seen faults but do not have enough data to comment.
Zotac claim only reviwers have their marginal cards and are now making the card with the same capacitor array used on Nvidia Founders edition card.
The real lesson here is that Nvidia, afraid of the AMD competition, have pushed their design right to the limits and even small changes in the supporting structure can lead to bad outcomes.
Lets see what AMD do. There are all sorts of ignorant claims swirling around from useless to on par with the 3090. AMD do have the advantage of splitting their compute cards (CDNA) from their gaming graphics cards (RDNA). Nvidia cards are loaded up with TENSOR cores and other stuff for AI and other compute applications. I suspect they push DLSS to justify this non core silicon. The better TVs with low power ARM chips manage upscaling without the need for high power AI.
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Point taken about the componentry.
I have the current AMD 5700 XT in my gaming computer. It’s roughly on a par with the RTX 2070 (and the 1080Ti I have in my ‘spare’ box), yet is the best AMD make for the consumer market just now. It’s ok, but it has serious issues with some games, which is why I’m looking to return to Nvidia when the 20Gb 3080 is released.
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derBauer has done a interesting youtube post on this. He took a Gigabyte Gaming X Trio with the six sp-caps. He triggered the fault with a small overclock. He then unsoldered the middle two sp-caps and replaced them with sixteen mlcc caps. He was then able to overclock a little higher before the fault occurred.
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derBauer has done a interesting youtube post on this. He took a Gigabyte Gaming X Trio with the six sp-caps. He triggered the fault with a small overclock. He then unsoldered the middle two sp-caps and replaced them with twelve mlcc caps. He was then able to overclock a little higher before the fault occurred.
How small is small? It doesn't seem like there is a lot of headroom above base clock speeds. Not that I overclock my 1080Ti today.
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I have the current AMD 5700 XT in my gaming computer. It’s roughly on a par with the RTX 2070 (and the 1080Ti I have in my ‘spare’ box), yet is the best AMD make for the consumer market just now. It’s ok, but it has serious issues with some games, which is why I’m looking to return to Nvidia when the 20Gb 3080 is released.
Was the 1080Ti in the system beforehand? It is difficult to remove all traces of graphics drivers from your system. Nvidias uninstall leaves some of its drivers behind. These are not vanilla and cause problems with other company's graphics drivers who expect to use Microsoft's version. It is possible that you are blaming AMD for Nvidias problem which they see no reason to fix. There are 3rd party utilities that completely remove graphic card drivers.
My MSI Mech 5700 OC has had no problems. Apart from MSI's less than ideal cooler solution. Any GPU specifies a contact pressure range from the cooler contact plate to the gpu heat spreader. MSI discovered late on in their initial design that the pressure was too weak because the thermal pads on the memory chips pushed too much against the cooler. They solved this by using half size thermal pads on the memory. They have good contact of the GPU but the memory is not cooled as much as it should be. ASUS TUF version got the contact pressure too light. The first version of this performed far worse than it should have. Both cards are revised.
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Some good news about the 3080/90.
The reason these capacitors exist is to handle the sudden demand for power from the gpu when it boosts. Buildzoid said if gpus did not have such extreme boosts the capacitors would be unnecessary. Nvidia have issued a new driver that boosts less aggressively. EVGA have reported that the cards with six sp-caps now work as expected without problem.
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I have the current AMD 5700 XT in my gaming computer. It’s roughly on a par with the RTX 2070 (and the 1080Ti I have in my ‘spare’ box), yet is the best AMD make for the consumer market just now. It’s ok, but it has serious issues with some games, which is why I’m looking to return to Nvidia when the 20Gb 3080 is released.
Was the 1080Ti in the system beforehand? It is difficult to remove all traces of graphics drivers from your system. Nvidias uninstall leaves some of its drivers behind. These are not vanilla and cause problems with other company's graphics drivers who expect to use Microsoft's version. It is possible that you are blaming AMD for Nvidias problem which they see no reason to fix. There are 3rd party utilities that completely remove graphic card drivers.
My MSI Mech 5700 OC has had no problems. Apart from MSI's less than ideal cooler solution. Any GPU specifies a contact pressure range from the cooler contact plate to the gpu heat spreader. MSI discovered late on in their initial design that the pressure was too weak because the thermal pads on the memory chips pushed too much against the cooler. They solved this by using half size thermal chips on the memory. They have good contact of the GPU but the memory is not cooled as much as it should be. ASUS TUF version got the contact pressure too light. The first version of this performed far worse than it should have. Both cards are revised.
No. This was a new-build (by me) computer in November last year, with an all-AMD config. It has never had any other GPU. The 1080Ti is in a completely different computer (‘box’ in my terminology!).
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The new AMD processors look good. I will not be buying them. My current set up is not old enough for me to replace it. Apart from the Video card. Which one I will decide next April.
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The Red Valkyrie has the Reflective Shot!
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I am playing Borderlands 3
Stuck at the moment unable to kill Mouthpiece.
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I played more thoughtfully, levelled up. got a better gun and shield so when I faced Mouthpiece (a boss battle) it was quite easy to deal with.
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It would appear that the higher end AMD Ryzen 5000 series is faster than Intels current best effort for gaming. The value for money has slipped a little.
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Enjoying Insurgency Sandstorm Gun Game mod atm. Great fun. I will be keeping an eye out for a new mid range graphics card once the 6000 series has floated and possibly a 1440p monitor. My current AMD cpu is also not that old.
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American Truck Simulator v1.39 came out the other day, and now half the mods wot I wrote are b0rked. Hopefully I can make 'em work by the time the Colorado DLC breaks cover in a week's time.
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I should admit that I had my first AMD 5700 graphics card crash. A game stopper. At the entrance of Borderlands 3 Devil's Razor you walk or drive to the stone arch which you cannot avoid the screen freezes then back to the desktop with a dialogue box saying the graphics card driver crashed and has been restarted. Only partially restarted, I need to restart the machine if I want sound.
Meanwhile I did the DLC and farmed legendary hunt and villains. Moze and Iron Bear the character I chose to play were at level 65 (game maximum limit). Moze had a gun Bang! one shot on target and most enemies were dead. The DLC was done I wanted to finish the first pass through the game.
Luckily I read an article from someone who beat this game stopper by walking backwards. I tried it. First go I walked backwards along the road until the Catch-a-ride, caught a ride and the crash as soon as I turned forward. Tried again, walked further until the road junction turned and I could continue normally. I played through the remainder of the story which was not at all challenging with my mighty level. Did not use Iron bear at all it was not hard enough with my level.
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I now own a 3080 card. Not tried any games yet because working.
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Well done you solved the availability puzzle. There are a lot of very unlikely claims about the wickedness of graphics card makers at the moment.
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Valheim (https://store.steampowered.com/app/892970/Valheim/).
When you cross Playstation 1 graphics, 2021 particle effect filters, and survival game mechanics; you get a video game experience that feels like you're playing the role of a character in an illustrated Grimm fairy tale.
I've been playing online with another forummer; and it's bloody awesome.
It's little surprise that this early-access indie title has sold 4 million copies on Steam this month.
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MS Flight Simulator. Shameless plug: I've been involved in the development of a voice control product over the last year, and it's just had its first independent review by Obsidian Ant.
https://youtu.be/ccPFDt2-ITA
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Gosh there has been a AMD 6700XT for sale at Scan for over a day. Asrock is nobody's favourite brand and at £785 about £400 more than I would pay for a card I want.
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Availability of AMD 5000 series CPUs seems to have improved with more reasonable pricing atm apart from Currys, who seem to have gone bananas wih pricing, although MSRP hitherto. The latest intel Cpus are not selling well it seems and are already being discounted.
https://www.stockinformer.co.uk/checker-amd-ryzen-5000-zen-3-cpu
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Oh dear, I drank too much tonight and broke my rule of never buying expensive things when I am tired in the evening. I find in the morning when I am wide awake that I will decide against it. I know I should of waited for the price to fall as it will soon. The cost of AMD 6700XT is falling. Tonight after half a bottle of Casa Silva Cabernet/Camenere I logged on to Scan and bought a Powercolor Red Devil 6700XT in exchange for £800. One of the better cards of its type but not worth that. Some of the more recent 6700xt cards to appear are just above £700 now.
If I was less impatient I would of waited for a 6800 which is a much better choice to appear at a lower cost.
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At least I didn't use the most expensive shop. I found it at a few other shops who wanted more.
Now I need a new game to play. I considered Godfall but all reviews are bad and from what I saw I would not like it anyway.
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I just bought the game control in the steam sale for £13.99
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I just downloaded Borderlands 3 for my brother to play when he comes home.
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I have decided not to play a computer game until September.
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I can’t play anything more sophisticated than Minesweeper atm because my new PC still hasn’t been built yet chiz. I assume this is due to inability to source bits from the Fiendish Godless Hordes of Beijing >:(
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£20 quid has been exchanged for Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition. I get 58 fps with my system with high graphics settings. Perfectly playable apart from my inept gameplay.
Not that I am playing it until the weather gets bad.
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Nvidia announced their new 4090, 4080 and 4080 cutdown models. The pricing remains very high. The 4080 cutdown 12MB version is particularly highly priced that is why it is called a 4080 because it is obviously a 4070 but even Nvidia are embarrassed that a $600 price uplift on a mainstream model so they called it 4080 12MB.
As ever Nvidia present their product in a slightly dishonest best light. They seem very proud of DLSS 3.0. Commentators are suspicious that they mostly showed examples of games moving in a straight line. Cars along a road, planes in Flight Simulator. It is suspected it may be less clever in more complex situations. DLSS 3.0 also has the problem it only works on the new cards. Games companies, except those making a Nvidia sponsored game will not be interested. AMD FSR 2.0 from AMD while good but not quite as good as DLSS 2.0 works on the majority of graphics cards currently in use. Game developers like that.
We need to wait for 3rd party reviews before we form an opinion on there new cards. AMD make their announcement of new cards 3rd November.
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Given the recent increases in energy costs who in their right mind would want to run a system using 600 watts plus at 50 odd P per KWh?
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Given the recent increases in energy costs who in their right mind would want to run a system using 600 watts plus at 50 odd P per KWh?
Someone with electric heating.
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Goat Simulator 3 review – a deranged, self-destructive caprine bender (https://www.theguardian.com/games/2022/dec/20/goat-simulator-3-review-a-demented-self-destructive-caprine-bender).
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Recently I bought a new Graphics card. A PowerColor Red Devil 5800XT. A great card for 1440p gaming. Adequate for many Ray Tracing games but Nvidia is still usually a long way ahead, with a few exceptions.
It came with copy of Starfield Premium edition. Which I think of as Wallpaper. That is to say nothing to get excited about. I would probably be upset if I had paid £85.99 for it.
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A 5800XT? New? Blimey! I didn't think anything older than the 6000-series cards came with the Starfield offer. And I wasn't aware that a 5800XT existed. I thought the 5700XT was the top dog of that generation.
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I meant AMD RX 7800xt. Numeracy in this country is terrible. It is all my fault for playing too many computer games.
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Yes, I also bought a 7800XT recently (to replace a 5700XT as it happens). It's quick, but it bloody should be at the price. Its notable that the 6800XT - if you can find it - has held up in price as the 7800 is far less of an advance than the market had hoped it would be. I have a 6750XT in my other desktop and the difference isn't great (the 6750 is an overclocked 6700).
Starfield is a waste of disk space, as far as I can see.
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Look, Mr L, American Truck Simulator is not a racing game so if you will insist on a sightseeing trip in a Challenger Hellcat don’t be surprised if you crash. A lot.