Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => The Knowledge => OT Knowledge => Topic started by: rafletcher on 09 July, 2018, 03:32:14 pm
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This may be a precursor to Trumps visit, and we do live close to Chequers as well as RAF Halton, but we have just seen 6 aircraft flying line astern towards Chequers, 3 conventional small helicopters and 3 Bell Boeing V22 Ospreys in helicopter mode.
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Are Ospreys not used by the US Marine Corps?
I must admit my ignorance - I know the US President can travel in Air Force One for aeroplane journeys. The armoused car called the Beast is shipped over for his road journeys.
But does the Marine One helicopter travel with him? I can't see that it would have the range.
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2 Ospreys seen over central London today, says Twitter
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There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
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There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
That may well be it, but I like a bit of conspiracy theory ;D. Northolt maybe?
They were quite low, 2-3000 feet perhaps. And definitely Ospreys, instantly recognisable when in heli mode.
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Are Ospreys not used by the US Marine Corps?
I must admit my ignorance - I know the US President can travel in Air Force One for aeroplane journeys. The armoused car called the Beast is shipped over for his road journeys.
But does the Marine One helicopter travel with him? I can't see that it would have the range.
According to Wikipedia, the Marine One helicopter is transported wherever the president goes by transport plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_One
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There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
V22 not listed in the current line up but who knows!
http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/press18/raf100flypast2018.htm
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I didn't know we had any Ospreys?
I see them regularly around me, bloody noisy
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There was one chugging its way into Brize a few days ago. They're fairly recognisable from a distance even in "normal" flight. Don't think there's anything else that has such big fans up front.
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There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
That may well be it, but I like a bit of conspiracy theory ;D. Northolt maybe?
They were quite low, 2-3000 feet perhaps. And definitely Ospreys, instantly recognisable when in heli mode.
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
V22 not listed in the current line up but who knows!
http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/press18/raf100flypast2018.htm
I didn't know we had any Ospreys?
I see them regularly around me, bloody noisy
The UK doesn't use V-22s.
Currently, the only operators of the type are the US Air Force and the US Marine Corps. V-22s spotted in the UK are most likely to be ones operated by the USAF's 7th Special Operations Squadron, out of RAF Mildenhall.
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yup....
cheers
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One flew over my house a while back - might be as long as a couple of years ago. I’d never seen one before and had no idea what it was. Weird looking thing, and bloody noisy!
Less unusual was the Tornado that flew over our house on Saturday. Seemed extremely low though.
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In a 'WTF is that?' moment, I spotted a couple hovering over Betteshanger Park, a couple of New Years Day's ago.
As above ^ if you've never seen one before, they look seriously odd.
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I didn't know we had any Ospreys?
I see them regularly around me, bloody noisy
The UK doesn't use V-22s.
Currently, the only operators of the type are the US Air Force and the US Marine Corps. V-22s spotted in the UK are most likely to be ones operated by the USAF's 7th Special Operations Squadron, out of RAF Mildenhall.
Yep, ElyDave and I regularly see (and hear) Ospreys, coz we're on one of the Mildenhall flight paths.
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2 Ospreys seen over central London today, says Twitter
Confirmed: I saw them from the window of a building in the St John's Wood area at some point after about 13:30
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2 Ospreys seen over central London today, says Twitter
Confirmed: I saw them from the window of a building in the St John's Wood area at some point after about 13:30
Also confirmed over on LFGSS.
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Currently active out off Norfolk at the moment:
(https://images2.imgbox.com/fd/ba/cIWWhfDQ_o.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/cIWWhfDQ)
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Are Ospreys not used by the US Marine Corps?
I must admit my ignorance - I know the US President can travel in Air Force One for aeroplane journeys. The armoused car called the Beast is shipped over for his road journeys.
But does the Marine One helicopter travel with him? I can't see that it would have the range.
According to Wikipedia, the Marine One helicopter is transported wherever the president goes by transport plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_One
I had that Marine One fly over my abode in SW London a few years back. Flying very low because it had to fit into the gap between the low clouds and the Wimbledon Common (atop a hill). It had Messrs. Dubya & Blair on board and I was just wondering what would happen if somebody happened to have an RPG lying around (it is Sarf Lunnun after all) when I noticed that Apache flying in formation.
Red mist settling above a smoking hole I think.
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Which website gave you that screen shot please, Jason?
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The V22 Osprey is not in service with the RAF, though it is being considered for certain Special Forces roles. However, there is a USAF V22 Squadron based at RAF Mildenhall, Suffolk. The 7th Special Ops Sqn of the 352nd Special Ops Wing operates both the V22 and the MC130J Cambat Talon in a number of special forces roles. That may well include POTUS security roles when he's in theatre.
'Marine 1' is any one of a number of Sikorsky S61 helicopters maintained at Andrews AFB for the transport of POTUS. One will be brought to Mildenhall by a C5 or possibly a C17 in the days before the visit if it's considered appropriate for Trump to travel by that means (and I suspect it will). The V22s and other aircraft (including F15E Strike Eagles from RAF Lakenheath) will provide an airborne protective escort.
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There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
These are the types involved in today's flypast:
(https://www.raf.mod.uk/raf100/rafcentenary/assets/File/RAF100%20FlypastFormation%20with%20F35(1).jpg)
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I have never heard of a Rivet Joint!
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I have never heard of a Rivet Joint!
https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircraft/airseeker-rc-135w-rivet-joint/
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I have never heard of a Rivet Joint!
It's particularly uncomfortable!
The Airseeker (in RAF parlance) is a signals intelligence aircraft which replaced - after a gap - the Nimrod R1 on 51 Sqn. It basically listens to the entire electromagnetic spectrum of transmissions and interfaces with software and human intelligence analysts to make sense of what it's heard.
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Reading the RAF link above it seems to have been developed from a precursor to the Boeing 707.
Tim, when you say it's uncomfortable, is that because of its construction - all metal, stiff winged - or simply because it is cramped due to the narrow fuselage?
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Which website gave you that screen shot please, Jason?
360radar.co.uk it's a subscription but has 24 hours free trial (though you need to set up the paypal subscription first then cancel before the 24 hours is up) it has a good 'military only' filter.
Just now:
(https://images2.imgbox.com/f5/e4/PTe8MtE4_o.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/PTe8MtE4)
TARTN01(Voyager) , SENTRY and GRIZZLY (A400) currently airborne heading to muster point readying for RAF100 flypast
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Cheers :thumbsup:
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Reading the RAF link above it seems to have been developed from a precursor to the Boeing 707.
Tim, when you say it's uncomfortable, is that because of its construction - all metal, stiff winged - or simply because it is cramped due to the narrow fuselage?
It's because having a joint riveted bloody hurts. I have experience. But it's not actually a reference to the aircraft!
Yes, the C135 is a precursor to the B707. It was developed for the civil market, but was regarded as too small by the potential customers. Boeing went away and redesigned it, but in the meantime the USAF bought it in huge numbers as a transport and tanker aircraft.Since then, it's been expanded into a number of roles. Note, the E3 Sentry is based on the B707, not the C135, and the difference in size is significant but the family resemblance obvious.
Edit: the poster of the flypast participants looks as if it's to scale, but it isn't. The RC135 is 135ft long, the E3 is 153ft, and the A330 is 193ft long (and the weights are 146 tonnes, 156 tonnes and 233 tonnes).
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V22 stooging around over the house about 17:00. On a short hop from Brize to Fairford. Did half a dozen circuits before finally landing at FF and promptly coming back. Think it was waiting for the Italian aerobatic team to finish their practice.
Grainy video here (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41392773@N02/43389215381/in/album-72157685098106166/) and some unimpressive stills in the same album. Am really going to have to buy a better camera cos those pictures don't convey how low it was.
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There have been three Ospreys circling over central London in the last couple of days because of the visit of the orange fella.
Boy are they noisy when heading toward you.
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The V22 Osprey is not in service with the RAF, though it is being considered for certain Special Forces roles. However, there is a USAF V22 Squadron based at RAF Mildenhall, Suffolk. The 7th Special Ops Sqn of the 352nd Special Ops Wing operates both the V22 and the MC130J Cambat Talon in a number of special forces roles. That may well include POTUS security roles when he's in theatre.
Strictly speaking, the Mildenhall Ospreys are CV-22B's.
The "V" simply indicates that it's capable of vertical flight, the "C" tells you that its nominal role is to transport stuff (like the C-5, C-17, etc) though in the case of the Osprey it normally carries special forces.
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There have been three Ospreys circling over central London in the last couple of days because of the visit of the orange fella.
Boy are they noisy when heading toward you.
Yep, circled Wood Green (ish) multiple times on Thursday and Friday. I thought there were several groups of three flying south, until I twigged what was going on. Extremely noisy on approach and low enough to rattle the walls.
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The aircraft aren't all that interesting or unusual, but the bleu-blanc-rouge at today's 14th July flypast was:
(https://images.lanouvellerepublique.fr/image/upload/t_1020w/5b4a04a79251fdc0728b4597.jpg)
Somebody's going to get a bollocking.
Armée de l'Air spokesman "explained" that the Patrouille de France usually flies with 8 aircraft. The 8 who got it right just had one cartridge each, while the extra bod had all three and hit the wrong button. Doesn't quite explain things: they knew they needed 9 and the 9th would be blue, so why leave the chance of screwing up?
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Whoopsy!
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Interview without coffee there for chap on the left.
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It gets better. Seems that a couple of Police motorbicyclists had a bit of unplanned meeting of vehicles, in front of the President, during the parade.
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The pair of weird aircraft taking off from Northolt this afternoon must have been Ospreys.
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Some are based in Okinawa, where several have crashed and caused much concern among the local population.