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Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« on: 09 July, 2018, 03:32:14 pm »
This may be a precursor to Trumps visit, and we do live close to Chequers as well as RAF Halton, but we have just seen 6 aircraft flying line astern towards Chequers, 3 conventional small helicopters and 3 Bell Boeing V22 Ospreys in helicopter mode.
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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #1 on: 09 July, 2018, 03:34:33 pm »
Are Ospreys not used by the US Marine Corps?

I must admit my ignorance - I know the US President can travel in Air Force One for aeroplane journeys. The armoused car called the Beast is shipped over for his road journeys.
But does the Marine One helicopter travel with him? I can't see that it would have the range.

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« Reply #2 on: 09 July, 2018, 03:38:51 pm »
2 Ospreys seen over central London today, says Twitter

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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #3 on: 09 July, 2018, 03:48:48 pm »
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?
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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #4 on: 09 July, 2018, 03:57:09 pm »
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?

That may well be it, but I like a bit of conspiracy theory  ;D. Northolt maybe?

They were quite low, 2-3000 feet perhaps. And definitely Ospreys, instantly recognisable when in heli mode.
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« Reply #5 on: 09 July, 2018, 04:13:32 pm »
Are Ospreys not used by the US Marine Corps?

I must admit my ignorance - I know the US President can travel in Air Force One for aeroplane journeys. The armoused car called the Beast is shipped over for his road journeys.
But does the Marine One helicopter travel with him? I can't see that it would have the range.


According to Wikipedia, the Marine One helicopter is transported wherever the president goes by transport plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_One

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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #6 on: 09 July, 2018, 04:24:06 pm »
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?

V22 not listed in the current line up but who knows!

http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/press18/raf100flypast2018.htm
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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #7 on: 09 July, 2018, 04:47:59 pm »
I didn't know we had any Ospreys?

I see them regularly around me, bloody noisy
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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #8 on: 09 July, 2018, 05:35:54 pm »
There was one chugging its way into Brize a few days ago.  They're fairly recognisable from a distance even in "normal" flight. Don't think there's anything else that has such big fans up front.
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« Reply #9 on: 09 July, 2018, 06:16:29 pm »
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?

That may well be it, but I like a bit of conspiracy theory  ;D. Northolt maybe?

They were quite low, 2-3000 feet perhaps. And definitely Ospreys, instantly recognisable when in heli mode.
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?

V22 not listed in the current line up but who knows!

http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/press18/raf100flypast2018.htm
I didn't know we had any Ospreys?

I see them regularly around me, bloody noisy

The UK doesn't use V-22s.

Currently, the only operators of the type are the US Air Force and the US Marine Corps. V-22s spotted in the UK are most likely to be ones operated by the USAF's 7th Special Operations Squadron, out of RAF Mildenhall.
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« Reply #10 on: 09 July, 2018, 07:00:30 pm »
yup....

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« Reply #11 on: 09 July, 2018, 07:09:28 pm »
One flew over my house a while back - might be as long as a couple of years ago. I’d never seen one before and had no idea what it was. Weird looking thing, and bloody noisy!

Less unusual was the Tornado that flew over our house on Saturday. Seemed extremely low though.
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« Reply #12 on: 09 July, 2018, 07:15:35 pm »
In a 'WTF is that?' moment, I spotted a couple hovering over Betteshanger Park, a couple of New Years Day's ago.
As above ^ if you've never seen one before, they look seriously odd.

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« Reply #13 on: 09 July, 2018, 07:16:36 pm »

I didn't know we had any Ospreys?

I see them regularly around me, bloody noisy

The UK doesn't use V-22s.

Currently, the only operators of the type are the US Air Force and the US Marine Corps. V-22s spotted in the UK are most likely to be ones operated by the USAF's 7th Special Operations Squadron, out of RAF Mildenhall.

Yep, ElyDave and I regularly see (and hear) Ospreys, coz we're on one of the Mildenhall flight paths.
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« Reply #14 on: 09 July, 2018, 07:26:03 pm »
2 Ospreys seen over central London today, says Twitter

Confirmed: I saw them from the window of a building in the St John's Wood area at some point after about 13:30

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« Reply #15 on: 09 July, 2018, 07:49:08 pm »
2 Ospreys seen over central London today, says Twitter

Confirmed: I saw them from the window of a building in the St John's Wood area at some point after about 13:30
Also confirmed over on LFGSS.

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« Reply #16 on: 09 July, 2018, 09:03:01 pm »
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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #17 on: 09 July, 2018, 10:12:38 pm »
Are Ospreys not used by the US Marine Corps?

I must admit my ignorance - I know the US President can travel in Air Force One for aeroplane journeys. The armoused car called the Beast is shipped over for his road journeys.
But does the Marine One helicopter travel with him? I can't see that it would have the range.


According to Wikipedia, the Marine One helicopter is transported wherever the president goes by transport plane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_One

I had that Marine One fly over my abode in SW London a few years back. Flying very low because it had to fit into the gap between the low clouds and the Wimbledon Common (atop a hill). It had Messrs. Dubya & Blair on board and I was just wondering what would happen if somebody happened to have an RPG lying around (it is Sarf Lunnun after all) when I noticed that Apache flying in formation.

Red mist settling above a smoking hole I think.
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« Reply #18 on: 10 July, 2018, 09:46:17 am »
Which website gave you that screen shot please, Jason?

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« Reply #19 on: 10 July, 2018, 10:03:00 am »
The V22 Osprey is not in service with the RAF, though it is being considered for certain Special Forces roles. However, there is a USAF V22 Squadron based at RAF Mildenhall, Suffolk. The 7th Special Ops Sqn of the 352nd Special Ops Wing operates both the V22 and the MC130J Cambat Talon in a number of special forces roles. That may well include POTUS security roles when he's in theatre.

'Marine 1' is any one of a number of Sikorsky S61 helicopters maintained at Andrews AFB for the transport of POTUS. One will be brought to Mildenhall by a C5 or possibly a C17 in the days before the visit if it's considered appropriate for Trump to travel by that means (and I suspect it will). The V22s and other aircraft (including F15E Strike Eagles from RAF Lakenheath) will provide an airborne protective escort.

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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #20 on: 10 July, 2018, 10:19:51 am »
There is the RAF 100 flypast tomorrow, so perhaps they are moving to an aerodrome closer to the muster point?

These are the types involved in today's flypast:



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« Reply #21 on: 10 July, 2018, 10:37:54 am »
I have never heard of a Rivet Joint!
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« Reply #23 on: 10 July, 2018, 10:48:27 am »
I have never heard of a Rivet Joint!

It's particularly uncomfortable!

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Re: Unusual Aircraft - V22 tilt rotor.
« Reply #24 on: 10 July, 2018, 10:57:34 am »
Reading the RAF link above it seems to have been developed from a precursor to the Boeing 707.

Tim, when you say it's uncomfortable, is that because of its construction - all metal, stiff winged - or simply because it is cramped due to the narrow fuselage?
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