Post by: phil d on 21 May, 2010, 06:44:19 am
The benefit of starting at Cholsey is that final big hill (usually done in the dark) is now just a few k in from the start. It's a nice bit of countryside that I'm sure you will enjoy in the daylight (especially in the first light, if the weather's OK). There will only be two main controls, evenly spaced at 70k intervals, with the Milton control (which was never satisfactory from a controllers point of view) dropped.
Post by: Manotea on 21 May, 2010, 08:25:04 am
Post by: Jules on 21 May, 2010, 09:38:10 am
Didcot is becoming the New Alresford!
ITYM
Didcot is becoming the new New Alresford?
Post by: toontra on 21 May, 2010, 10:15:31 am
Post by: Martin on 21 May, 2010, 10:16:38 am
can you book a table at the Curry House at the finish?
Post by: mattc on 21 May, 2010, 10:25:50 am
Will the controls be Waterperry and Chipping?
Riders should note that there will be plenty of provisioning potential on the final leg (unless Phil routes it very bizarrely!).
[For those not in the know, Didcot, Cholsey and Arlesford all have steam trains. But Arlesford probably edges it by virtue of the nice public access cafe. Sadly no steam trains run between the 3 stations.]
Post by: Martin on 21 May, 2010, 10:29:01 am
Alresford (not New Alresford, the New bit grew after the station was opened) has steam trains
the other two have abominations built by the GWR ;)
Post by: phil d on 21 May, 2010, 11:59:38 am
I like itIs that a comment on Mrs D's pasta? ;D
can you book a table at the Curry House at the finish?
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 23 May, 2010, 08:01:48 am
Geoff
Post by: NeilP on 29 June, 2010, 10:02:22 am
Post by: RichForrest on 29 June, 2010, 10:43:23 am
Just got to look at a route to ECE it now if all works out ok.
Post by: phil d on 29 June, 2010, 11:43:26 am
Yes I'll be there again, It was my 1st 200 audax and this will be my 4th time doing it :thumbsup:First formal entry (lots of expressions of intent!). Thanks Rich. Will be mailing "paperwork" nearer the event, but please take this as acknowledgement.
Just got to look at a route to ECE it now if all works out ok.
Post by: Jaded on 29 June, 2010, 12:42:08 pm
(mattc: The steam train is further away from the village than the sewage works ;D )
Post by: francisbarton on 29 June, 2010, 03:13:36 pm
Post by: NeilP on 03 July, 2010, 08:44:00 am
Post by: Euan Uzami on 03 July, 2010, 04:33:41 pm
Post by: LiamFitz on 04 July, 2010, 10:18:30 am
I wonder what I'll forget to bring this time.
Huzzah!
Post by: AndyH on 04 July, 2010, 01:11:09 pm
It was a great end to the audax year in 2009.
Alternatively it could be a great start to a RRTY. I think this is an expression of intent.
Post by: PloddinPedro on 04 July, 2010, 08:46:16 pm
Still a while off, but just hit the calendar. The route is the same as previous years, but the start point is different, at Cholsey (which was formerly one of the info controls). Cholsey has a station on the Paddington - Reading - Oxford line, and Didcot is 9k away for faster trains out of Paddington.Phil - I have just tried to enter on-line and when I hit the PayPal button I get this message:
The benefit of starting at Cholsey is that final big hill (usually done in the dark) is now just a few k in from the start. It's a nice bit of countryside that I'm sure you will enjoy in the daylight (especially in the first light, if the weather's OK). There will only be two main controls, evenly spaced at 70k intervals, with the Milton control (which was never satisfactory from a controllers point of view) dropped.
"You have requested an outdated version of PayPal. This error often results from the use of bookmarks"
Not being cyber-cute, I have no idea whether this is down to something at my end or what. I see someone else has entered on-line, I assume without problems. Any suggestions? (Apart from snail mail.)
Post by: Euan Uzami on 04 July, 2010, 08:56:53 pm
Still a while off, but just hit the calendar. The route is the same as previous years, but the start point is different, at Cholsey (which was formerly one of the info controls). Cholsey has a station on the Paddington - Reading - Oxford line, and Didcot is 9k away for faster trains out of Paddington.Phil - I have just tried to enter on-line and when I hit the PayPal button I get this message:
The benefit of starting at Cholsey is that final big hill (usually done in the dark) is now just a few k in from the start. It's a nice bit of countryside that I'm sure you will enjoy in the daylight (especially in the first light, if the weather's OK). There will only be two main controls, evenly spaced at 70k intervals, with the Milton control (which was never satisfactory from a controllers point of view) dropped.
"You have requested an outdated version of PayPal. This error often results from the use of bookmarks"
Not being cyber-cute, I have no idea whether this is down to something at my end or what. I see someone else has entered on-line, I assume without problems. Any suggestions? (Apart from snail mail.)
online entry worked fine for me so probably something your end...(I even remembered that thing about returning to the auk page ;))
in fact the paypal screen came up as soon as I clicked 'click here for your personal entry form' from the event page, there was no auto-filled-in print-off-able form like there often is?
try clearing your cache or if you use chrome start up an incognito mode tab (ctrl shift N) and try it in that.
failing that try another browser?
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 05 July, 2010, 06:40:26 am
It was a great end to the audax year in 2009.
Alternatively it could be a great start to a RRTY. I think this is an expression of intent.
Careful.
Audax is addictive enough without RRTY
Good Morning my name is Geoff and I am a confirmed addict. ;D
Post by: mattc on 05 July, 2010, 09:29:35 am
online entry worked fine for me so probably something your end...(I even remembered that thing about returning to the auk page ;))Have a pat on the back. About 2-out-of-5 of online entrants to my July event have failed to do this!
(I'm only posting this so more of Phil's entries do it right :) )
Post by: Euan Uzami on 05 July, 2010, 10:39:01 am
online entry worked fine for me so probably something your end...(I even remembered that thing about returning to the auk page ;))Have a pat on the back. About 2-out-of-5 of online entrants to my July event have failed to do this!
(I'm only posting this so more of Phil's entries do it right :) )
(i only knew to do it because phil said at the last upper thames that lots of people didn't do it and it means he didn't get an email saying that they've paid) ;)
Post by: PloddinPedro on 05 July, 2010, 10:55:15 am
(Oh. I suppose I'll have to ride it now. In November. Confound this on-line entry system - too easy!)
Post by: phil d on 10 July, 2010, 04:39:38 pm
Riding the route tomorrow.
Post by: Jethro on 12 July, 2010, 11:58:19 am
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 12 July, 2010, 09:03:25 pm
One disadvantage of the new start location is that for a few years I used to see a Barn Owl just after Stanford in the Vale, my guess is that it will now be to dark for me to see it.
Cheers
Geoff
Post by: Jaded on 11 September, 2010, 06:21:21 pm
Post by: Ray 6701 on 11 September, 2010, 07:51:01 pm
Post by: AndyH on 11 September, 2010, 11:20:25 pm
It was a great end to the audax year in 2009.
Alternatively it could be a great start to a RRTY. I think this is an expression of intent.
Intent turned into online entry.
Post by: Martin on 11 September, 2010, 11:47:33 pm
It was a great end to the audax year in 2009.
Alternatively it could be a great start to a RRTY. I think this is an expression of intent.
Intent turned into online entry.
they ought to ban this all night Paypal entry; it encourages binge riding...
(have to go and check my paypal account to check I have entered; and how many times)
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 13 September, 2010, 06:23:41 am
Goeff
Post by: phil d on 08 October, 2010, 08:33:20 pm
Four weeks to go.
I'll start sending out the routesheet next week. On-line entries will obviously be by email; paper entries will get a confirming email, and can have details by email if they wish, though as the Post Office is performing properly this year these will get paper routesheets in the usual way
Post by: Phil21 on 08 October, 2010, 09:27:32 pm
Post by: Martin on 10 October, 2010, 05:10:46 pm
can't remember many hills after Chipping Norton, are there any? (thinking of bringing The Dog as CBA to mend my clown bike before it)
Post by: dasmoth on 10 October, 2010, 05:23:53 pm
I remember a bit of rollingness in the few miles after CN, but nothing dramatic, and then flattening out until the very end.
Edit: just to add, I'm one of the
Post by: Frank9755 on 15 October, 2010, 05:25:16 pm
Post by: phil d on 15 October, 2010, 08:40:27 pm
I entered on line and am looking forward to it!
Entry on-line is so easy, isn't it?
I'll be emailing the routesheets this weekend to on-line entrants. All the paper entries I've had so far have been sent.
Post by: Ray 6701 on 15 October, 2010, 08:47:27 pm
I entered on line and am looking forward to it!
Entry on-line is so easy, isn't it?
I'll be emailing the routesheets this weekend to on-line entrants. All the paper entries I've had so far have been sent.
Too easy sometimes, especially John Hamilton's rather hilly 400 & 600 rides :o
Post by: pipsuds on 18 October, 2010, 06:49:21 pm
Post by: Jaded on 18 October, 2010, 06:55:44 pm
I'll be emailing the routesheets this weekend to on-line entrants. All the paper entries I've had so far have been sent.
Did the sheets go out, as I didn't get one.
No hurry, that will happen on the 5th at about 5pm. ;D
Post by: phil d on 18 October, 2010, 09:50:46 pm
Sorry, no. Except for riders who have entered in the last three days they have just (about 10 minutes ago) left my PC. I will do the next batch later this week - I shall be using them as part of a training exercise for another organiser in the use of the on-line entry system. I think we're up to 60 now.I'll be emailing the routesheets this weekend to on-line entrants. All the paper entries I've had so far have been sent.
Did the sheets go out, as I didn't get one.
No hurry, that will happen on the 5th at about 5pm. ;D
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 18 October, 2010, 10:52:01 pm
Post by: dasmoth on 18 October, 2010, 10:57:07 pm
Pondering this one. What's the general hardness rating?
I'd say not too high, particularly if Phil has remembered to order another beautiful day like we had last year. It's noticeably over-distance, but not too many climbs (and the change of start means that the most noteworthy hill can now be tackled with fresh legs), and plenty of pretty views to help the miles fly past. Recommended.
Post by: Lycra Man on 18 October, 2010, 11:26:37 pm
I'm driving to the start from Waddesdon, between Aylesbiury and Bicester. If anyone would like a lift, perhaps from a station, let me know.
Lycra Man
Post by: Manotea on 18 October, 2010, 11:49:02 pm
Pondering this one. What's the general hardness rating?
Hard. Really Hard. Beyond Hard. I've never finished in daylight, possibly because its the first event after the clocks change, which is always a shock to the system. I've only ever left the last control - the Q Gardens cafe - in daylight once and usually arrive after the cafe has closed.
It's a veritable rite of passage to huddle in the cold dark void whilst raining blessings on the head of our illustrious organiser and scoffing his tea and cake amidst clouds of swirling breath illuminated by head torches before setting off gruppetto to hack the last 40km or so home.
I have yet to see the new routesheet; are the controls the same? I fear Q Gardens cafe will be no more, too late in the ride to make it worth while, in which case the route will have but two main controls. Be ready for a long(er) haul to Waterperry and then Chipping Norton. Little Tew always seems rather bleak (but in a good way).
Post by: phil d on 19 October, 2010, 08:19:44 am
VERY few finish this ride in daylight - the clocks have gone back then, so it is dark by 5 (sunset at about 4:25 IIRC - it says on the entry form). Equally few take the full time for it - one or two riders who make a habit of this, and once a rider who had set out at silly o'clock from London to make this part of a longer perm (before the days of ECE).
Because of the start location there are indeed only 2 intermediate controls, at Waterperry and Chipping Norton. So yes, the Q Gardens control is gone. I can't say I'll mourn its passing. From reports it was appreciated by the riders, but from the organiser's standpoint it was a nightmare. I was very grateful to MattC and Iddu who have helped out there in past years.
I've marked on the routesheet all the places where refreshments may be purchased en-route.
Post by: Jaded on 19 October, 2010, 08:34:26 am
Post by: RichForrest on 19 October, 2010, 08:56:04 am
Pondering this one. What's the general hardness rating?
I did it as my first 200 (4yrs ago I think?) and this will be my 5th time riding it.
It's as hard as any ride through the Chilterns is with some steep bits to start with. The bit from Waterperry to Chipping Norton is rolling but not that bad. The rest is good fun ;D
I'm cycling over, so hopefully not late.
See you there :thumbsup:
Post by: mattc on 19 October, 2010, 12:17:55 pm
It's as hard as any ride through the Chilterns is ...I don't think you meant that the way you wrote it - there are MUCH harder rides through the Chilterns :o Some steepish bits early on when you are fresh, but nothing ridiculous.(They were much harder when they were after 190km!)
I haven't seen the new route yet, but I suspect the leg back from Chipping passes lots of good cheap foody pubs if people want that sort of thing. And it's a pretty gentle leg, too. I'm looking forward to it :)
Post by: AndyH on 19 October, 2010, 01:29:21 pm
No routesheet yet, paypal seemed to work OK. Do the emails go to the primary email address on the paypal account or our AUK registered email address ? (if the former then my wife will have got it).
Post by: Jaded on 19 October, 2010, 01:46:51 pm
Post by: phil d on 19 October, 2010, 02:07:26 pm
No routesheet yet, paypal seemed to work OK. Do the emails go to the primary email address on the paypal account or our AUK registered email address ? (if the former then my wife will have got it).Often there were two email addresses, so I could have used the "wrong" one. Happened to Manotea. My list is at home, and I'm not, but I'll check your entry later and re-send if necessary.
Perhaps MrsH would like to ride it too?
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 19 October, 2010, 02:16:18 pm
Beyond Hard
Cheers Manotea ;D
Post by: phil d on 19 October, 2010, 02:23:39 pm
Come on SP - you know you want to.Beyond Hard
Cheers Manotea ;D
Post by: Ray 6701 on 19 October, 2010, 04:50:46 pm
Post by: kcass on 19 October, 2010, 07:56:18 pm
Beyond Hard
It's not that hard really is it. (Or maybe that's on fixed).
I always find the leg to Chipping a bit of a slog and always forget to tell myself that its because its slightly uphill for miles leading there. It might also be because the Waterperry control felt too early in the ride to warrant stopping for proper refuelling so I'm hoping the revamped ride will help with this (ie I'll stop and eat)
See you all there.
And I'm already looking forward to Mrs D's pearl barley soup.
Post by: Tim Hall on 19 October, 2010, 08:06:08 pm
Sarge, I did this, ooh, a few years ago. The same day as the Ufton Nevert train crash (googles: 2004). Martin M dragged me round, and was good enough to ride with me all the way. I did give him a left there mind you. Anyway, if I can do it, it'll be fine for you I reckon.Beyond Hard
Cheers Manotea ;D
Phil, are entries still open? I may have to open negotiations with Mrs. Hall.
Post by: D.G.E. on 19 October, 2010, 09:13:20 pm
I am planning on doing this on my fixed with a 72" gear. I hope that is about right as reading the thread there are similarities with The Willy Warmer which I comfortably managed (although I was a lot fitter then..)
Post by: Martin on 19 October, 2010, 09:17:04 pm
Route sheet in in-box :thumbsup:
I'm going to try this one paper-free again a la Anfractuous :facepalm:
is the actual route the same as 2009? I can use last year's gpx. Hoping AJB has got his bike fixed :thumbsup:
Post by: AndyH on 19 October, 2010, 09:32:16 pm
I'm going to try this one paper-free again a la Anfractuous :facepalm:
is the actual route the same as 2009? I can use last year's gpx.
+1, managed postie's ride last sunday without looking at the routesheet. Does anyone have a gpx ?
Post by: Martin on 19 October, 2010, 09:34:39 pm
I'm going to try this one paper-free again a la Anfractuous :facepalm:
is the actual route the same as 2009? I can use last year's gpx.
+1, managed postie's ride last sunday without looking at the routesheet. Does anyone have a gpx ?
as long as it's last year's
Post by: L CC on 19 October, 2010, 10:58:14 pm
I'm already looking forward to Mrs D's pearl barley soup.O very yes.
Post by: Jaded on 20 October, 2010, 12:47:50 am
I'm going to try this one paper-free again a la Anfractuous :facepalm:
is the actual route the same as 2009? I can use last year's gpx.
+1, managed postie's ride last sunday without looking at the routesheet. Does anyone have a gpx ?
I'll be making one next week, whilst I am on hols. Happy to share with riders if phil is ok with that
Post by: phil d on 20 October, 2010, 06:48:00 am
Yes, entries still open, and will be right up to the day. But in the last week I would appreciate an email to let me know you are coming.
The route is (almost) exactly the same as previous years with the start moved back along the route. One very minor change after Rotherfield Greys due to the removal of a marker at an "easy to miss" junction, so you take the next turning instead. Two sides of a not-very-big triangle instead of one.
While I will not be providing a gpx file, there is no reason for riders not to share such things between themselves.
Entries flowing well. I will deal with the next batch tomorrow evening.
Post by: Plodder on 20 October, 2010, 10:36:26 am
+1, managed postie's ride last sunday without looking at the routesheet. Does anyone have a gpx ?
You have mail.
Post by: phil d on 20 October, 2010, 01:15:42 pm
It was actually leek soup, bulked out with some pearl barley. There will be similar (not necessarily the same) this year, together with a pasta dish, and the usual beans etc. All vegetarian. And Mrs D has made the bread pudding. Almost makes me wish I liked bread pudding!I'm already looking forward to Mrs D's pearl barley soup.O very yes.
Post by: LEE on 20 October, 2010, 01:24:30 pm
It was actually leak soup, bulked out with some pearl barley. There will be similar (not necessarily the same) this year, together with a pasta dish, and the usual beans etc. All vegetarian. And Mrs D has made the bread pudding. Almost makes me wish I liked bread pudding!I'm already looking forward to Mrs D's pearl barley soup.O very yes.
What did it leak from?
Post by: phil d on 20 October, 2010, 01:28:35 pm
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 20 October, 2010, 07:51:33 pm
Pondering this one. What's the general hardness rating?
Not to bad If I can get round then almost all can :)
It is a fantastic ride, to kick off the new year, and you get fireworks to light the way home. :thumbsup:
Geoff
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 20 October, 2010, 08:09:14 pm
Post by: Martin on 20 October, 2010, 10:05:05 pm
I see from the elevation profile that there is a sizeable lump that occurs mostly after the 200 km mark. Cruel.
That's Quiet Lane*; you do that just after the start this year as the event starts in Cholsey :)
* it's not really called Quiet Lane that's the only sign I remember on that section
Post by: kcass on 20 October, 2010, 10:06:28 pm
Post by: Tim Hall on 21 October, 2010, 03:27:43 pm
I seem to have entered using this new fangled PayPal malarky.
This is my first Audax for ages and ages. I hope I've done the right thing.
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 21 October, 2010, 04:37:50 pm
I see from the elevation profile that there is a sizeable lump that occurs mostly after the 200 km mark. Cruel.
That's Quiet Lane*; you do that just after the start this year as the event starts in Cholsey :)
I see I didn't delete that post quickly enough :)
Just looking at The Bloody Trains from London. How long does it take to get from the station to the start via the sprawling metropolis of Cholsey? There's a train that gets there at 0714.
Post by: mattc on 21 October, 2010, 04:41:54 pm
Just looking at The Bloody Trains from London. How long does it take to get from the station to the start via the sprawling metropolis of Cholsey? There's a train that gets there at 0714.Less time than you'll spend working out if it's left or right out of the station.
Next! :)
Actually, as I know there are V.early trains to Didcot, I'd look at riding from there. it's virtually flat. I might be able to meet you at the station.
Post by: phil d on 21 October, 2010, 04:42:15 pm
Or it's 8 1/2 km from Didcot.
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 21 October, 2010, 04:44:32 pm
Actually, as I know there are V.early trains to Didcot...
I'll need to look again then, with the aim of maximising my time in bed.
Post by: Manotea on 21 October, 2010, 06:50:06 pm
05:50 Paddington 06:37 Didcot
05:57 07:30
06:27 07:49
06:50 07:38
05:25 Paddington 06:39 Cholsey
05:57 07:14
06:27 07:41
06:30 07:41
06:05 Ealing Bwy 07:14 Cholsey
Only one choice for me. I'll be on the 6:05 from Ealing.
Best plan for a rush of last minute arrivals Phil!
Post by: Ray 6701 on 21 October, 2010, 07:45:44 pm
Post by: phil d on 21 October, 2010, 07:51:29 pm
Best plan for a rush of last minute arrivals Phil!
Don't worry - I normally stay at the start until at least 0800. This year I'll be less rushed than normal (longer to get to Waterperry as you all have to ride further to get there).
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 21 October, 2010, 08:08:38 pm
Only one choice for me. I'll be on the 6:05 from Ealing
Keep forgetting that I now live not far from Ealing. It's only been a year :-\ Your option seems the least painful.
What's the latest I can leave it to decide on this ride? ;)
Post by: phil d on 21 October, 2010, 10:31:50 pm
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 22 October, 2010, 06:13:53 am
Negotiations have been succesful!
I seem to have entered using this new fangled PayPal malarky.
This is my first Audax for ages and ages. I hope I've done the right thing.
You have :thumbsup:
Geoff
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 22 October, 2010, 03:38:08 pm
SP, while all organisers prefer entries well in advance of the event (it helps us plan the catering, and the brevet cards), most of us accept entries right up until the start. As you will be pushed for time on the Saturday morning (unless you are happy to start a little later than everyone else) I suggest that you get your entry to me beforehand. If you are able to enter on-line (not sure whether you are an AUK member; this facility is not available otherwise) this can be the Friday evening. Otherwise you'll need to post your entry by Wednesday 3rd to be reasonably sure that I get it. And an email to let me know it's on its way would be good.
Noted - if I am riding you'll have an entry in good time, don't worry. Need a couple more days dithering. AUK member so can enter on-line.
Post by: AndyH on 25 October, 2010, 12:00:44 pm
Post by: phil d on 25 October, 2010, 01:27:03 pm
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 25 October, 2010, 10:00:06 pm
<gulp>
Post by: Hot Flatus on 26 October, 2010, 08:01:29 am
Maybe back off a little on your blistering pace this time. Bet you still get round in 9 hours though ;D
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 26 October, 2010, 08:09:44 am
Post by: AndyH on 26 October, 2010, 08:11:33 am
Paypal for HK and myself.
Note the start time. 7.30 ;D
Post by: phil d on 26 October, 2010, 09:13:08 am
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 26 October, 2010, 09:55:36 am
Paypal for HK and myself.
Note the start time. 7.30 ;D
Perhaps we'll be a little later again, if it is too cold...
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 27 October, 2010, 06:20:04 am
LittleWheels: no news from Julien I'm afraid. Maybe Ivo can help.
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 27 October, 2010, 08:13:46 pm
Paypal for HK and myself.
Note the start time. 7.30 ;D
Perhaps we'll be a little later again, if it is too cold...
You will soon catch me up
Geoff
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 28 October, 2010, 08:21:25 pm
The train tickets have arrived. It looks as if I may actually do this to myself.
The org's comments highlighting the change from 4 sections to 3 worry me slightly. I haven't done more than a handful of 200s and none have been remotely comfortable for me in the last 3rd of the ride. Part of the problem, besides sheer lack of general backbone, is that I don't have the eating and drinking right.
Can any of you familiar with the route, bearing in mind the above, give me an idea of when / how often you plan to eat during the ride or when you'll have your main meal of the ride, given the early start time and the reduced number of stages.
Post by: Ray 6701 on 28 October, 2010, 08:37:14 pm
Post by: Manotea on 28 October, 2010, 08:49:46 pm
*especially when you doze off sitting at the table after scoffing a plate of beans on toast.
Post by: phil d on 28 October, 2010, 09:59:49 pm
Bear in mind that after Chipping Norton there are only two significant hills (both fairly soon after CN, and before Leafield) and after that it really is about as flat as an audax can be outside of Cambridgeshire. Just a few low key (either short, or not at all steep) slopes.
Both of the cafes are quite quick, usually, as you will be there outside of their main lunchtime periods.
Post by: Manotea on 28 October, 2010, 10:14:21 pm
Both of the cafes are quite quick, usually, as you will be there outside of their main lunchtime periods.Good point, especially for Chipping Norton, though by the time I get there the lunchtime rush has passed anyway!
Post by: mattc on 29 October, 2010, 10:41:02 am
The org's comments highlighting the change from 4 sections to 3 worry me slightly. I haven't done more than a handful of 200s and none have been remotely comfortable for me in the last 3rd of the ride. Part of the problem, besides sheer lack of general backbone, is that I don't have the eating and drinking right.(bear in mind that only Phil has ridden it in this config)
Can any of you familiar with the route, bearing in mind the above, give me an idea of when / how often you plan to eat during the ride or when you'll have your main meal of the ride, given the early start time and the reduced number of stages.
My advice; don't panic. Because:
- Phil's marked loads of emergency food options.
- the last leg is the easiest (by far)
- the last leg does have several food options (Rowstock garage is probably a good one to 'aim for'), including various pubs.
Manotea is right about 'winter rules', but it's better to pace yourself and eat what you feel is right, than worry about dashing round as far as possible before dusk.
Post by: Manotea on 29 October, 2010, 12:02:00 pm
The org's comments highlighting the change from 4 sections to 3 worry me slightly. I haven't done more than a handful of 200s and none have been remotely comfortable for me in the last 3rd of the ride. Part of the problem, besides sheer lack of general backbone, is that I don't have the eating and drinking right.(bear in mind that only Phil has ridden it in this config)
Can any of you familiar with the route, bearing in mind the above, give me an idea of when / how often you plan to eat during the ride or when you'll have your main meal of the ride, given the early start time and the reduced number of stages.
My advice; don't panic. Because:
- Phil's marked loads of emergency food options.
- the last leg is the easiest (by far)
- the last leg does have several food options (Rowstock garage is probably a good one to 'aim for'), including various pubs.
Manotea is right about 'winter rules', but it's better to pace yourself and eat what you feel is right, than worry about dashing round as far as possible before dusk.
Yup, you have to ride your own ride. After a period off the bike it took a while to get back into the hang of eating properly. It's so easy to let your your reserves run down thinking there's a control coming in km miles and then push on hard to get to the control only to arrive knackered, starving and feeling like you're 'owed' a proper break, which is a good way to lose an hour. Repeat that a couple of times and you've added a couple of hours to the ride. Whether that's a good thing depends on you. I made a mistake last year when I bounced Waterperry because I didn't eat enough before hand and then chased NikW and friend for a few Km after, which set me up nicely to run out of calories on the long drags up to Dorton and Brill. Nowadays I try and make a point of eating on the run up towards controls so I'm less inclined to stop too long and ready to go directly thereafter. Well, that's the theory.
p.s., There is a small sainsburys on the right of chipping norton high street shortly before the control. A good place to stockup with goodies for the ride home.
Post by: phil d on 29 October, 2010, 12:08:07 pm
........ the last leg does have several food options (Rowstock garage is probably a good one to 'aim for'), including various pubs.
Rowstock is not specifically identified on the routesheet. It is at 197.7 (1st exit rbt onto A417). I shall check on Monday whether they have a hot drinks dispenser there. There is a Co-op at 194.9 in Steventon, but I have often had to queue in there, which wouldn't be much fun if you are cold and wet.
Post by: mattc on 29 October, 2010, 12:30:58 pm
The only benefit over Steventon is that it follows a longish climby bit. Quite small, probably lacks hot drinks.
Steventon is probably a better bet all round, given the presence of:
- decent chinese almost next to Co-op
- two decent pubs just after the co-op (Cherry Tree is the better one for really good food, if you have time in hand)
Having written this, it's going to be really hard to avoid stopping there on the day .... :)
Post by: Jaded on 29 October, 2010, 01:22:03 pm
Post by: ian_oli on 29 October, 2010, 01:25:27 pm
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 29 October, 2010, 01:40:58 pm
It's so easy to let your your reserves run down thinking there's a control coming in km miles and then push on hard to get to the control only to arrive knackered, starving and feeling like you're 'owed' a proper break, which is a good way to lose an hour. Repeat that a couple of times and you've added a couple of hours to the ride
That's exactly what I do.
Advice noted, thanks all.
Post by: Von Broad on 29 October, 2010, 02:25:12 pm
I am going to be this: Slow. ;D
The run out from Bicester to Chippy is the section that nearly always drains me.
Has there ever been a time when there's never a headwind?
Food: there's also a chippy in Chippy on the right before the control [down the right hand turn before the cafe].
Post by: NHRC Chris on 29 October, 2010, 02:32:01 pm
Post by: Chris S on 29 October, 2010, 02:37:07 pm
I am going to be this: Slow. ;DThe run out from Bicester to Chippy is the section that nearly always drains me.
Has there ever been a time when there's never a headwind?
Me too. It seems ever-so-gradually uphill the whole way. And, as you say, into the wind.
Post by: L CC on 29 October, 2010, 08:35:56 pm
How much knitting have you got Chris?
Post by: Chris S on 29 October, 2010, 09:40:45 pm
How much knitting have you got Chris?
You'll be fine. There's some grunty bits in the first half. After Chippy, it's easy peasy.
Post by: iddu on 30 October, 2010, 10:49:19 pm
Oh, good - a Ménage à pignon fixe ;DHow much knitting have you got Chris?You'll be fine. There's some grunty bits in the first half. After Chippy, it's easy peasy.
Post by: mattc on 02 November, 2010, 08:49:47 pm
........ the last leg does have several food options (Rowstock garage is probably a good one to 'aim for'), including various pubs.
Rowstock is not specifically identified on the routesheet. It is at 197.7 (1st exit rbt onto A417). I shall check on Monday whether they have a hot drinks dispenser there. There is a Co-op at 194.9 in Steventon, but I have often had to queue in there, which wouldn't be much fun if you are cold and wet.
Ah. ok!
The only benefit over Steventon is that it follows a longish climby bit. Quite small, probably lacks hot drinks.
Steventon is probably a better bet all round, given the presence of:
- decent chinese almost next to Co-op
- two decent pubs just after the co-op (Cherry Tree is the better one for really good food, if you have time in hand)
Having written this, it's going to be really hard to avoid stopping there on the day .... :)
Post by: DrMekon on 02 November, 2010, 08:59:16 pm
Nowadays I try and make a point of eating on the run up towards controls so I'm less inclined to stop too long and ready to go directly thereafter. Well, that's the theory.
Genius! I use the same principle when going shopping (have a nom before I go so I don't fill up the trolley with munchies), and hadn't thought of applying it to rides. Thanks for that.
Post by: Jaded on 02 November, 2010, 11:37:18 pm
Post by: phil d on 04 November, 2010, 10:48:16 am
I have sent out routesheets to everyone that has entered - a big batch to all entrants to date, around 20th October, and as entered to subsequent entrants. Whenever I have had a delivery failure notice (not too many, fortunately) I have dealt with them immediately.
If anyone here is still awaiting a routesheet for this event, please look in your spam filter (some filters don't like incoming messages with BCC addressees), and if you use a different email address for PayPal, look there, too. If still nothing, please email me (address in my profile) and I will deal with it tonight.
Post by: Chris S on 04 November, 2010, 06:31:12 pm
Phil, I've always wanted to ask. At 32.5 in the first section (using this year's route), we are here, at the large triangle before the drag up to the Broadplat turn:
Google Map Clicky (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rotherfield+Greys,+Henley-on-Thames,+United+Kingdom&sll=51.577023,-1.150764&sspn=0.0021,0.006968&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rotherfield+Greys,+Henley-on-Thames,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.539529,-0.957618&spn=0.002102,0.006968&t=h&z=18)
The instruction is R @ T at the tee that forms the leftmost corner of the triangle. Why not R then R @ T to use the
No biggy - just curious.
Post by: simonp on 04 November, 2010, 06:41:42 pm
Post by: phil d on 04 November, 2010, 06:41:53 pm
Those familiar with this junction should feel free to cut the corner.
By the way, someone has put on Twitter that on-line entry is £5. This is incorrect (I don't know who put this there) as on-line entry is £6 to cover my extra postage costs. If a similar entry has been made for the S Bucks Winter Warmer, the error is even greater as that event has a £1.50 on-line entry surcharge.
Post by: phil d on 04 November, 2010, 06:42:17 pm
I'll be DNS'ing I'm afraid.
Sorry to hear that Simon.
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 04 November, 2010, 07:23:50 pm
I'll be DNS'ing I'm afraid.
+1 unfortunatly
Mark me down fr next year, as I do like this ride.
Geoff
Post by: scottlington on 05 November, 2010, 08:29:31 am
This will be my 4th UT I think.
Phil, I've always wanted to ask. At 32.5 in the first section (using this year's route), we are here, at the large triangle before the drag up to the Broadplat turn:
Google Map Clicky (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Rotherfield+Greys,+Henley-on-Thames,+United+Kingdom&sll=51.577023,-1.150764&sspn=0.0021,0.006968&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Rotherfield+Greys,+Henley-on-Thames,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.539529,-0.957618&spn=0.002102,0.006968&t=h&z=18)
The instruction is R @ T at the tee that forms the leftmost corner of the triangle. Why not R then R @ T to use theleftmostrightmost side of the triangle? It looks shorter and more "natural".
No biggy - just curious.
I took a close look at that on Google Maps when plotting the route for the GPS. I have used R, than R@T although in reality it;s not that much further.
Post by: Martin on 05 November, 2010, 01:22:11 pm
This will be my 4th UT I think.
mine too; Lewes bonfire is going to scupper next year though but a leap year will make 2012 OK. 90+ riders makes this ride a highlight of the calendar, you can see other riders pretty much all the way round.
just dusted off The Dog (aka Manotea's old Squadra); having done a GdS on it I;m going to try for a Brevet 1000
Post by: Lycra Man on 05 November, 2010, 05:27:33 pm
I am going to withdraw. I have a cold, lost my voice, and am coughing.
Although I think I could complete the ride, I don't think a brisk 200k would match nature's way of getting me better. I shall hope to join you next year.
Lycra Man
Post by: Ray 6701 on 05 November, 2010, 05:36:52 pm
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 05 November, 2010, 06:06:10 pm
Temp sounds as if it will thankfully be a bit cooler than the last few days.
Post by: Simonb on 05 November, 2010, 07:48:48 pm
Post by: Jaded on 05 November, 2010, 07:51:29 pm
I've just been up to some fireworks and got blown about and very wet.
Post by: Manotea on 05 November, 2010, 08:05:41 pm
Well, my forecast says that he wind will die down and it will be nearly dry. However it is saying max of 10 ˙C, so a fair bit cooler than today.
I've just been up to some fireworks and got blown about and very wet.
Best bring some long fingered gloves as the air temperture will plummet once the sun goes down.
Post by: mattc on 05 November, 2010, 08:10:16 pm
Temp sounds as if it will thankfully be a bit cooler than the last few days.Amen to that - I detest those sultry double-figure temperatures. More suited for sunbathing than audaxing, what?
(CU all in the car-park.)
Post by: toontra on 05 November, 2010, 09:00:38 pm
Post by: Jaded on 05 November, 2010, 09:37:56 pm
Post by: phil d on 06 November, 2010, 09:10:42 am
About 80 started.
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 06 November, 2010, 03:16:02 pm
:hand:
It will get cold this evening.
Geoff
Post by: Manotea on 06 November, 2010, 07:29:09 pm
The usual thanks to Organiser and team for making it happen. I thought the new HQ was a great success if for no other reason then it has a train station at the end of the road. I bet nobody complains about not having to flog up the A4074/Ipsden hill at the end of the ride!
Post by: Martin on 06 November, 2010, 09:53:40 pm
Rode on and off with several YACF but mostly LiamF; no visitations for me but helped Peter T fix his and all finished in a respectable time. Many thanks phild and helpers :) this ride was an instant success when I first rode it in 2004 and continues to be popular; deservedly so as it's a near perfect route.
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 06 November, 2010, 10:23:55 pm
We were very lucky with the weather today too - I think some of those straight exposed roads would be damned hard work in any kind of headwind.
Great ride. Good to see a healthy yACF turnout.
Edit to add: I'm very glad we didn't have to ride the first bit at the end...
Post by: Euan Uzami on 06 November, 2010, 10:45:49 pm
route was easy to follow, navigated it just fine on last section from brize norton without any gps or cumulative mileage.
Nice mix of roads and not completely flat either. Good countryside. Nice pearl barley soup at the finish.
I think having 2 controls rather than 3 is fine, when they are evenly spaced as they are.
Food and drinks in the controls was nice.
Post by: iddu on 06 November, 2010, 10:46:40 pm
Must want me bumps felt though; up & out @ 5am, to pickup the route at Park Lane and scuttle over to the start.
Berins Hill was a good early morning shock to many; seeing it in daylight was fun...
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4399.jpg)
Trying to blend into the scenery?
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4400.jpg)
boab, grumping well... Hope you found some string, before becoming a bike park :)
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4404.jpg)
Humm , wonder what's round there?
Every time on this route I seem to get a visitation somewhere between 12 & 25km; Keepers Corner was todays ::-)
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4403.jpg)
Some net curtains, tea facilities - would be a perfect overnighter for the discerning AUK ;D
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4406.jpg)
Know your history - What's this?
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4410.jpg)
Mobile homes for chooks...
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4411.jpg)
Small wheels...Folding...something wrong here...(thinks)...it's the colour, isn't it ;)
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4416.jpg)
Els, I thought you'd said "Never again" after the BCM ;)
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4415.jpg)
Ross - epic SUCESS :thumbsup: ;D
Arrgh. I seem to have a floater just off the right eye centre line; symbol of female 5cm in front and depressed right 15 degrees, like an off target gunsight. If I squint at you, run - I'll be taking aim ;)
Post by: Tim Hall on 06 November, 2010, 11:22:45 pm
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4406.jpg)
Know your history - What's this?
Sir! Sir! Is it the Victorian Water Tank at Bix? Is it Sir? <jumps up and down excitedly>
Post by: Simonb on 06 November, 2010, 11:23:59 pm
Made an offering to the Punct*re Fa*ry (too little too late):
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1127109/IMAG0035.jpg)
Post by: Jaded on 07 November, 2010, 01:43:28 am
I was a bit late starting because I got lost on the way in the car. Don't tell anyone that I used to live about 100m from the start location. :-[
The first section was glorious. Full of autumn scenes and punctures. I counted at least 10 and at one point I thought this could be my Tortoise and Hare Audax. I saw a number of YACFers, and leapfrogged Sgt Pluck and Tim Hall until the first control. The terrifying climb at Ipsden registered a gradient of 15%.
Stunning views. With a proper camera I could have taken about 3-4 days on this ride.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/upper_thames_3.jpg)
I caught someone up. It is worth reporting, believe me. His first words though were "You'd better not follow me, I'm not on the Audax!" We rode quite a long section until the telegraph pole/post box info control and chatted away. He is called John, from Reading CTC, and also walks and does a little mountain biking (recently did the coast to coast on mtb with his son). The wonderful camaraderie of cyclists.
At the first control (Waterperry Estate cafe) the leaf harvest was in full swing.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/upper_thames_4.jpg)
The 2nd section appeared tough. Into a slight headwind and (what I discovered looking at the recorded GPS track) a long draggy 22 mile climb from Bicester to Chipping N. When I reached the wonderfully hospitable cafe in Chipping Norton I thought I'd probably fail to trouble the scorers on this ride; I was tired, cold and down hearted. A small local problem (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=40242.msg766716#msg766716) hadn't helped.
Still, there were more stunning views on the way to CN.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/upper_thames_2.jpg)
The cafe was wonderful and an order for a cup of tea mutated into chips, apple pie and custard, a coke and a pot of tea.
Suitably enthused I set off with lights ready to blaze. The sunset crept away to leave 5 degrees of cold.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/upper_thames_1.jpg)
The run into the finish was fun. A very slight tail wind and stabby climbs followed by leisurely descents. A final sting in the tail of a short climb before the last km run in to Cholsey, past Agatha Christie's grave and the site of the sadly missed Cedar of Lebanon.
Being a prize winner I was offered lots of tasty soup, pudding, tea, etc.
Many thanks phil and gang for a great day.
Post by: AndyH on 07 November, 2010, 05:38:12 am
I had a great day, although feeling the lack of miles in my legs. What next ?
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 07 November, 2010, 08:07:22 am
+1 to all the messages of thanks to Phil & team. Excellent reports as well, good to see the fine photos. I just wish I had met more of the YACFrs, but good to see Maidenhead Phil & Rich F - oh and postie, disappearing into the distance as usual.
I had a great day, although feeling the lack of miles in my legs. What next ?
Tinsel Lanes :demon:
Geoff
Post by: RichForrest on 07 November, 2010, 09:18:08 am
I had a great day, although feeling the lack of miles in my legs. What next ?
Mine and Manotea's 600km AGM ride?
;D
Yes was a good day out and good to see everybody. My day started at 03.00 and I was away at 04.15 as I was doing it as an ECE, very nearly didn't mae it after missing the turning in Chalgrove arriving at Cholsey at 07.15.
Was away slightly late and followed the group up the A4074. I had a puncture after a very slow decent down the lane from Bix. The cogs were coming loose again when I got to Waterperry so another fettle was had there.
Detoured Brill hill again 8) but means a few more miles of the A41 but never that bad.
Chatted to Garry for a bit up until the main road into Chipping Norton.
Then dragged myself over the last hills back to the start. 11hrs matches my best time for this ride.
Spent too long chatting at the end, kept saying I must go but was still there over 1.5hrs after arriving.
The ride home was slow and getting cold as the temp's dropped to almost 0 in places and was 3c when I got in at 00.00. 20hrs for 360km but with 5hrs off the bike.
Post by: iddu on 07 November, 2010, 09:41:11 am
Sir! Sir! Is it the Victorian Water Tank at Bix? Is it Sir? <jumps up and down excitedly>Gold star for Timothy :thumbsup: Most just ride straight by...
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4405.jpg)
Now - more difficult; How many times did you pass an old metal "Bucks/Oxon" boundary post?
Post by: Greenbank on 07 November, 2010, 09:42:43 am
Post by: NHRC Chris on 07 November, 2010, 10:58:26 am
Gold star for Timothy :thumbsup: Most just ride straight by...
Or, if it is where i think it is, some missed it completely by taking right fork coming down the hill and having to cycle back up the dual carriageway (must improve gpx making skills)
Post by: AndyH on 07 November, 2010, 11:07:55 am
I had a great day, although feeling the lack of miles in my legs. What next ?
Mine and Manotea's 600km AGM ride?
;D
I think the negotiations on that one may fail ...... It should be Valley Of the Rocks as a perm in a couple of weeks time, to test my masochistic tendencies to the limit.
I also forgot that I did meet someone else from here at the CN control who provided the quote of the day for me (he shall remain nameless).
"16 pages on reflective vests for PBP - It's that sort of thing that gives Audax a bad name" ;D :thumbsup:
Post by: Phil21 on 07 November, 2010, 11:34:05 am
Post by: L CC on 07 November, 2010, 11:35:41 am
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20101106%20-%20Upper%20Thames/CIMG4400.jpg)
boab, grumping well... Hope you found some string, before becoming a bike park :)
Ah haa, evidence that I did manage to ascend on the bike...
I think it was the only time- I walked EVERYTHING. Shedding considerable lard since the Anfractuous has not helped my 'climbing ability' one jot.
The birthday-present-from-my-dad reflectives are doing a fine job in the picture, too.
And no, I never did manage to sort my trews, and although I stayed firmly near the rear, there were still far too many riders who may have seen far more than anyone wants to of my milky white backside. My sincerest apologies.
Note to self: You are not hard, and you are not a man. You are a gurl, and should not attempt to take a fixed wheel bicycle west of Cambridge.
Many (many) thanks to LWaB for pre-start fettling which allowed me to have power for the ride. And many (many many) thanks to Chris S's #2 Son who permitted me to steal the fettling bits from skippy.
Lovely lovely soup at the end, unmissable. But I think unless I man up a bit over the next 12 months (I may have muttered the verbotim phrase 'training') I will be taking gears next year.
O, and +1 for the new start. Beech trees in the morning was all win.
Post by: Chris S on 07 November, 2010, 11:51:58 am
Ideal weather - even the perma-headwind from Bicester to Chippy was much lighter than usual. Checking the GPS tracklog - yes, that section is all uphill - with an interruption at Lower Heyford where you drop down to the river, and have to get that height back all over again.
Superb views at Brill before the drop down to Arncott.
Great service at the Chippy cafe. If you bounce Waterperry as I did - you are really ready for lunch when you get to CN.
Mrs S made me some cheesy pastry straws as trailfood. I don't know what else she put in them, but I was flying yesterday; I finished just after 6 which is fastest for me by a long way for this ride. I especially liked the run down from Leafield to Buckland, which is one long downhill. After the Stanford info, as it was getting dark, I seemed to be going faster and faster; typical flatlander - a sucker for a flat route with a bit of a tailwind.
Foggy drive back made for a late-O'clock bedtime - but boab did a good job of keeping me awake - at least until she succumbed to slumber as we passed through the foggy streets of Brandon. I'd forgotten that we'd split the journey last year with £19 rooms at the M4 Travelodge. Might revert to that plan next year.
Post by: LiamFitz on 07 November, 2010, 12:50:17 pm
Lovely day with lots of nice people.
Liam
Post by: LiamFitz on 07 November, 2010, 12:54:43 pm
Taking a photo of the information board, how very American Tourist... ;)
But handy in case Manotea ever uses it as an Info....
Post by: Jaded on 07 November, 2010, 01:31:04 pm
Checking the GPS tracklog - yes, that section is all uphill - with an interruption at Lower Heyford where you drop down to the river, and have to get that height back all over again.
Here's an annotated profile.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Upper-Thames-Profile.gif)
Post by: LiamFitz on 07 November, 2010, 01:44:21 pm
Checking the GPS tracklog - yes, that section is all uphill - with an interruption at Lower Heyford where you drop down to the river, and have to get that height back all over again.
Here's an annotated profile.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Upper-Thames-Profile.gif)
What prog do you do that in?
Post by: damerell on 07 November, 2010, 01:46:52 pm
I think it was the only time- I walked EVERYTHING. Shedding considerable lard since the Anfractuous has not helped my 'climbing ability' one jot.
If that was you, it worked out OK overall - you may have walked the big hill but you passed me twenty minutes later going like a rocket.
I got a phone call about 35km that strongly suggested I return to London - fortunately, I was 2 miles from Henley - so I DNF _again_, sigh.
Post by: Jaded on 07 November, 2010, 01:49:34 pm
What prog do you do that in?
Hi, it is Ascent (http://www.montebellosoftware.com/index.html). Not free, but excellently featured.
Post by: scottlington on 07 November, 2010, 01:55:15 pm
Spent all day in the fine company of Mattc, on and off with various others. The famed drag up to CN never really materialised and I found it relatively easy. Thanks to the weather for that. Dropped a drive side spoke on the hill up to the info on leg 2 (circa 90k) which was a bummer especially as I had invested in a set of hand built Harry Rowland wheels just prior to MC1K exactly because I kept dropping spokes. I fail to see it can be anything I am doing but still have a lack of understanding as to why it keeps happening ??? Anyway, Mattc expertly wielded his spokey tool and, apart from some increasingly annoying rubbing off the wheel on the mudguards, it held up for the rest of the ride. :)
Good to see such a great turnout and many YACFers (even if I did not remember all names... ::-) . Many thanks to Phild and helpers for providing a wonderful autumn day out.
Post by: De Sisti on 07 November, 2010, 02:08:41 pm
Checking the GPS tracklog - yes, that section is all uphill - with an interruption at Lower Heyford where you drop down to the river, and have to get that height back all over again.
Here's an annotated profile.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Upper-Thames-Profile.gif)
What prog do you do that in?
This is my Suunto's take on things:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/5153836531_78edcf5325_z.jpg)
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 07 November, 2010, 02:16:14 pm
* And in the case of Manotea, about 24 of those 29 were smaller than the gear he brought along.
Post by: Von Broad on 07 November, 2010, 03:09:47 pm
Compared to where he's in relation to fitness over the past two years, the lad Manotea gets the prize for the most improved rider on the day for me. It just goes to show what
Also catdhing my eye were Mattc and Scotlington looking fresh and agile after their jaunt round the MC1000 and Chris S nonchalantly knocked 90mins off his previous best time. Chapeau.
I'm not sure how much longer I can continue to turn out to these events from one 6-month period to the next, and expect to get round without feeling like collapsing at the end. Might have to consider cycling more than 1km three times a week to the pub and back!
Must heap praise upon the jacket spud and bolognese sauce at the Honet Pot cafe. I don't normally eat there, but it was lovely stuff [too late for the chippy now].
An unexpected visitor to Cholsey at the end was John Harwood (http://www.cyclingtoaustralia.blogspot.com/), fresh from his 3 year absense abroad. What an experience and a life changing one it sounded like too.
Cracking day.
Post by: pipsuds on 07 November, 2010, 03:15:57 pm
That was a nice way to start the new Audax season, I couldn't believe how pleasant the weather was for this time of year. Kudos to Phil D for the organisation and excellent route sheet, I felt the 3x70 worked very well. Amazingly, managed to avoid a visitation, at one point in the first section it felt like half the field was standing by the side of the road fixing punctures :o I think it is time to get the touring bike with its Marathon Pluses out...
I did have Marathons on mine and still ended up with two visitations in the first 25km!
However, a great day with fantastic weather and once over that feeling of having lost so much time/ground early on settled into a very happy rhythm and whilst the Bicester to CN section was hard work it wasn't as bad as I had feared from comments before the ride.
Enjoyed putting faces to many yacf names as well.
Many many thanks to phild and his team for such great organisation - warm welcome and hot food always much appreciated. Symbol Routesheet also a great success :)
Post by: LiamFitz on 07 November, 2010, 04:46:14 pm
Might have to consider cycling more than 1km three times a week to the pub and back!
You were walking when I honked you in Chesham this PM
Post by: Von Broad on 07 November, 2010, 05:49:47 pm
Might have to consider cycling more than 1km three times a week to the pub and back!
You were walking when I honked you in Chesham this PM
Ah.....[thinks]......motorized vehicle coming through the one-way, car park on the left, Chess River [Stream][ on the right, just before you get to the roundabout?
I'll be back on the bike this evening :-)
Post by: simonp on 07 November, 2010, 06:17:43 pm
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 07 November, 2010, 06:42:35 pm
Post by: Chris S on 07 November, 2010, 06:47:53 pm
What was the name of the estate we passed where a stonemason was doing what looked to be a superb job on a hell of a long wall?
Great Tew Park (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=440710&y=229220&z=120&sv=440710,229220&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=552&ax=440710&ay=229220&lm=0) would be my guess.
Great Tew Estate (http://greattewestate.com/sportshorse.htm)
Post by: pipsuds on 07 November, 2010, 06:55:02 pm
What was the name of the estate we passed where a stonemason was doing what looked to be a superb job on a hell of a long wall?
Was that at Great Tew?
Post by: Simonb on 07 November, 2010, 07:00:34 pm
What was the name of the estate we passed where a stonemason was doing what looked to be a superb job on a hell of a long wall?
Dunno, but he was very pleased when I called out "Nice wall!". Which it was.
Post by: Martin on 07 November, 2010, 07:14:45 pm
Post by: Manotea on 07 November, 2010, 07:27:52 pm
What was the name of the estate we passed where a stonemason was doing what looked to be a superb job on a hell of a long wall?
Was that at Great Tew?
Think so. Assuming you're talking of the wall on the right as we passed. There were a couple of chaps working when Andy (of this parish?), Mercury & I passed and said "Hi".
Post by: phil d on 07 November, 2010, 07:32:29 pm
who owns that f off house that was lit up as we rode past at dusk?Georgian property: Buckland House lives again - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/periodproperty/8109857/Georgian-property-Buckland-House-lives-again.html)
Post by: LiamFitz on 07 November, 2010, 07:34:26 pm
who owns that f off house that was lit up as we rode past at dusk?
Thinking of putting in an offer?
Post by: Euan Uzami on 07 November, 2010, 08:57:25 pm
What was the name of the estate we passed where a stonemason was doing what looked to be a superb job on a hell of a long wall?oh yeah, I saw that as well - he looked like he was taking stones OFF the wall when i past. Maybe he was adjusting one of them that wasn't quite on right. ;)
Post by: Simonb on 07 November, 2010, 09:00:14 pm
who owns that f off house that was lit up as we rode past at dusk?
Gorgeous, isn't it? Belongs to Paddy McNally.
Post by: kcass on 07 November, 2010, 10:50:36 pm
Rode all but the first 10km with (and mainly behind) Martin T* who was far stronger than me and gallantly refused my suggestions that he ride on without me. Consequently I really suffered trying to stay with him on the Bicester - Chipping Norton section but ended up riding my fastest ever 200 and got back in time to go to the firework display in nearby Wallingford.
Thanks Phil and his helpers for all their hard work and thanks again to Mary for the soup. I hope I left enough for everyone else!
(* EDIT - drgannet. Here's the link I promised Art In Action at Waterperry (http://www.artinaction.org.uk/))
Post by: L CC on 07 November, 2010, 11:01:55 pm
What was the name of the estate we passed where a stonemason was doing what looked to be a superb job on a hell of a long wall?
Dunno, but he was very pleased when I called out "Nice wall!". Which it was.
He must have had a day of it. I called out "nice work".
Post by: PloddinPedro on 08 November, 2010, 10:41:45 am
Many thanks to Phil and team for another great ride. I agree with the apparent consensus that Cholsey makes a far better start point; being able to see the stretch through the woods at Ipsden Heath in the early morning sun was a delight and having the two good cafes at one-third and two-thirds of distance was well nigh perfect. We were lucky with the weather; benign winds and no precipitation. It even seemed less hilly than I remember from last year!
Post by: mattc on 08 November, 2010, 11:13:10 am
(http://faffing.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/ut200_somerton_div1.jpg)
vs
Checking the GPS tracklog - yes, that section is all uphill - with an interruption at Lower Heyford where you drop down to the river, and have to get that height back all over again.
Here's an annotated profile.
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/Upper-Thames-Profile.gif)
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2010, 11:24:53 am
I am delighted that everyone had such a good day out, despite all the visitations in the first section. Only one person mentioned preferring the old 3-stop route, with many commenting that the new 2-stop format worked better. If nothing else, it took half an hour off most riders' finishing time ;D
Once again the weather was fine (probably the best yet - can I keep it up?) and the lack of any significant wind on that gradually rising section between Bicester and Chippy also speeded things up. To the extent that we weren't fully ready for the first back at Cholsey, who were a clear 30 minutes earlier than anyone has finished before. Last man back was well within time. And still smiling!
My returns have been posted back to the validation team, though I don't expect they will look at them until they have finished all the old-season rides. Naturally I'll get your cards back to you as soon as I can.
I'm sure you will echo my thanks (apart from to all the riders that entered) to Mary (Mrs D) who prepared all the food in advance, to Mick and Sue Simmons and to our son Andrew who helped keep everything together in the evening (and Mick was there first thing too).
Post by: Phil21 on 08 November, 2010, 11:32:56 am
Can't help but think it would have been a very different ride in today's weather!
Post by: Manotea on 08 November, 2010, 11:48:21 am
Here's this years trail. An obvious short cut comes to mind.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/paudax/Maps/bicester.jpg)
Reading Mattc's post again I see we were at the same junction in Bicester. FWIW I'm not a fan of the Middleton Stoney Road which is quite busy and does rather run on for a while. Mattc's alternate route may well bear investigation.
p.s., This year I was following a GPS track generated from a 'follow road' route of rather dubious vintage. Riding just ahead of Rich Forrest & grupetto on the approach to the first Info, I reached a crossroad. My GPS said turn left & right though I could see on the map that SA then left was equally viable and more likely the right option. A passing car made the decision for me and I swung into the left turn rather than stop at the junction. Alas, I soon discovered I had made a Terrible Mistake as my right turn was the aptly named Sandpit Lane, an unmetalled track. Oops. There's a moral there somewhere.
Post by: scottlington on 08 November, 2010, 12:11:47 pm
Post by: drgannet on 08 November, 2010, 12:26:22 pm
I went off route twice. One was planned, and i think Scott agreed it was a success. Basically we took the very quiet road parallel to the busy B4030 after Bicester. No more instructions than the official route. It may have been flatter as well, but certainly no worse:
(http://faffing.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/ut200_somerton_div1.jpg)
I also considered that option this year, but in the end stayed with the route sheet as conditions were benign. I really don't like the road after Bicester until you get to the Barfords. The diversion indicated is about 0.5km longer but about the same climbing (maybe 30m less, according to Anquet). Anyone who has ridden the Heart of England would recognise the descent to Somerton and climb up to North Aston.
Post by: PloddinPedro on 08 November, 2010, 01:09:32 pm
I always feel as though I'm getting lost traversing Bicester, though I also always seem to pop out the other side in the right place.Yup, staying on the A41 is a viable option; the carriageway has a “non-cycle lane” on the left which you can shelter in and it isn’t far to the roundabout where, incidentally, there’s a garage for scoff and water if required.
Here's this years trail. An obvious short cut comes to mind.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/paudax/Maps/bicester.jpg)
p.s., This year I was following a GPS track generated from a 'follow road' route of rather dubious vintage. Riding just ahead of Rich Forrest & grupetto on the approach to the first Info, I reached a crossroad. My GPS said turn left & right though I could see on the map that SA then left was equally viable and more likely the right option. A passing car made the decision for me and I swung into the left turn rather than stop at the junction. Alas, I soon discovered I had made a Terrible Mistake as my right turn was the aptly named Sandpit Lane, an unmetalled track. Oops. There's a moral there somewhere.It's not to rely on Garmin auto-routing - the Navteq map data it relies on is often faulty, mixing up bridleways with tarmac roads and vice-versa.
Post by: PloddinPedro on 08 November, 2010, 01:10:22 pm
Indeed, Mattc's diversion at Bicester was great, hardly any traffic and reasonably flat. Not sure about his shortcut to Waterperry though... :P
Shortcut to Waterperry?
We should be told!
Post by: mattc on 08 November, 2010, 01:21:17 pm
"short" may not be a good description.Indeed, Mattc's diversion at Bicester was great, hardly any traffic and reasonably flat. Not sure about his shortcut to Waterperry though... :P
Shortcut to Waterperry?
We should be told!
Hopefully Scott* has now learned not to trust anyone's "local knowledge". In my defence, i was following someone else (not a local, AFAIK), and a quick glance down at the routesheet seemed to match. And there is a prettier (1km longer) route than the official one which I _thought_ we were on ... but then we all ended up on the old A40 adding 2.5 miles to the route. Oh well, at least it was a flat 2.5miles.
*Conversation was something like:
Scott: hmm, my GPS shows us going way off route ...
Matt: don't worry, this is just a parallel road, it'll all join up in a couple of miles!
Scott: hmmm <too polite to disagree>
:P
BTW there IS a shortcut to Waterperry - about 500m of bridleway which I have never tested, especially in November.
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2010, 01:42:08 pm
I always feel as though I'm getting lost traversing Bicester, though I also always seem to pop out the other side in the right place.
Here's this years trail. An obvious short cut comes to mind.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/paudax/Maps/bicester.jpg)
Reading Mattc's post again I see we were at the same junction in Bicester. FWIW I'm not a fan of the Middleton Stoney Road which is quite busy and does rather run on for a while. Mattc's alternate route may well bear investigation.
And I will indeed investigate Matt's alternative. IIRC I did look at it before and found it to be slightly further. but I will recheck it.
The "shortcut" that comes to mind involves either travelling further along the A41 (fine if you like that sort of road) or going the wrong way down a one-way street. Take your pick ;D
Post by: Chris S on 08 November, 2010, 01:48:52 pm
Gosh - so many route options!
FWIW - the main road to Cane End is clearly much easier than the Ipsden route - I leap-frogged quite a few riders, who were convinced I was behind them :demon:.
Post by: Manotea on 08 November, 2010, 01:58:26 pm
The "shortcut" that comes to mind involves either travelling further along the A41 (fine if you like that sort of road) or going the wrong way down a one-way street. Take your pick ;D
The A41 was the one I had in mind. A bit grim but more direct. Like I said, I always feel like I'm getting lost in Bicester. There is no right answer...
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2010, 02:07:49 pm
I gather that a few riders on Sunday did indeed take a shorter route to Waterperry, based on local knowledge (still visiting the two infos in that section). Not MattC, of course - his "shortcut" was distinctly further ;D
According to Google Maps the Ardley - Somerton - Duns Tew alternative after Bicester is a mere 0.4km further - neither here nor there, really.
Post by: Greenbank on 08 November, 2010, 02:09:42 pm
It's much easier/better for someone to take the organiser's suggested "best" route and adapt it to their own requirements (shorter route at the expense of time on some less desirable roads, etc) than compromise a good (or simple) route for almost everyone for the sake of a few hundred yards.
Post by: mattc on 08 November, 2010, 02:16:15 pm
With the main road option up to Cane End coming first thing in the morning in the new (most excellent) format, it's perhaps a better option now than Ipsden. I found it 2km shorter - so it might be viable to "spend" that 2km on matt's northern alternative out of Bicester.If the roads were seriously skoggy (as opposed to early stage of skoggy that we had this weekend) I'd take the A-road. But on Saturday I found it pretty busy just upto the Ipsden turning, so wouldn't have enjoyed carrying on. (I have ridden it an hour earlier on a Saturday, and it's lovely!) Some folks don't mind traffic, whatever works for you.
I looked at a Didcot variation for the final leg, but for non-locals the navigation is no easier[unless you took the A4130, which would be appaling], so I wouldn't recommend it just to save 1-2km. Plus of course you see more fireworks from the darker lanes towards the end :thumbsup:
[As GB says, it's nice to have the options if you want to research them and decide for yourself.]
Post by: Chris S on 08 November, 2010, 02:22:57 pm
Post by: Greenbank on 08 November, 2010, 02:30:32 pm
Everyone has the tools to find the shortest/simplest route between two controls but, what you can't get from using Autoroute/Google Maps/etc is the 'nicest/best' route, which is what you get from the organiser.
Post by: mattc on 08 November, 2010, 02:32:56 pm
Nevertheless, I know I'm grateful for suggestions to improve my routes (including those from Phil!). It's always worth some discussion, even if the status quo turns out to be best. Roads change over the years, as do cafes etc ...
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2010, 02:35:16 pm
While in principle I agree with Greenbank's comments, I am nevertheless quite interested in altering the route between Bicester and Chippy - I don't much like the Stoney Middleton road either.
Post by: Manotea on 08 November, 2010, 02:45:33 pm
TBH - the only reason I took the alternative to Cane End was because I knew I wouldn't be able to get up Berins Hill without a walk :-[.
Ditto. +10"! Anyway, I've never seen the A4074 in daylight!
But seriously, it's not about shaving distance but discussing what constitutes the nicest route. For me, the benefit of getting off the A41 is offset in part at least by my FUD* about getting lost in Bicester. Mattc's route to Tew may be an improvement on the B4030. My suspicion is that Phil may have discounted this alternate route because of 'organiser guilt' over the UT being overdistance as is. But none of this is a big deal, really.
*Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (archaic IT terminology).
Post by: PloddinPedro on 08 November, 2010, 02:54:11 pm
There is an easier alternative to Berins Hill, but it takes more lines of instruction. If you look at the map of the area, it's the next road up the escarpment to the south - hardly any further, but significantly gentler.Looking at the map, that would be Garson's Hill then?
While in principle I agree with Greenbank's comments, I am nevertheless quite interested in altering the route between Bicester and Chippy - I don't much like the Stoney Middleton road either.
I think that, if your philosophy (as stated in a previous post) is to prefer the quiet, pretty route to the unpleasant but shorter option (a philosophy with which I agree - more miles for my money!) it seems logical to prefer Mattc's pleasant lanes 'tween Bicester and C Norton against the slightly frenetic B4030 out of Bicester.
If there's a concern about the degree of "over distance" a better way perhaps to address this might be to come back through Didcot rather than wandering about through Harwell and the Hagbournes, since the latter is for most people ridden in darkness?
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2010, 03:16:01 pm
If there's a concern about the degree of "over distance" a better way perhaps to address this might be to come back through Didcot rather than wandering about through Harwell and the Hagbournes, since the latter is for most people ridden in darkness?
I agree with your view. The problem with the route through Didcot is the A4130 between the A34 and Didcot, though that can be avoided by going through the Milton Trading Estate. I will investigate that (by riding it at the appropriate time of a Saturday) to see how it feels.
Post by: Martin on 08 November, 2010, 03:28:33 pm
first time I rode this with Tim H in 2004 we missed a right turn and ended up in Didcot town centre; cue stopping at Tescos to look up a local A-Z :-[
lovely view of Wallingford bonfire from the top though, just watch that CO2 burning a hole in the ozone layear
Post by: PloddinPedro on 08 November, 2010, 03:35:01 pm
If there's a concern about the degree of "over distance" a better way perhaps to address this might be to come back through Didcot rather than wandering about through Harwell and the Hagbournes, since the latter is for most people ridden in darkness?
I agree with your view. The problem with the route through Didcot is the A4130 between the A34 and Didcot, though that can be avoided by going through the Milton Trading Estate. I will investigate that (by riding it at the appropriate time of a Saturday) to see how it feels.
Perusal of Memory Map suggests the Milton Trading Estate would be viable but of course it may look different in real life. I can see that this would still leave the roundabout at the junction with the A34 to navigate but it’s probably worth it for the short distance involved.
An alternative and again just from map reading, might be to go left off the A4130 before Rowstock and come through Didcot past the hospital on the B4493. This wouldn’t save quite as much distance, but might be a compromise if the A34 junction is deemed too dodgy? Just a thought.
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2010, 03:44:09 pm
In the way that I used to give an "in the dark" alternative before, I might do it again.
Post by: mattc on 08 November, 2010, 04:08:28 pm
- The roadbridge from A34 to Milton TE is currently closed for repairs! (plus that route gives you at least 3 interesting roundabouts to negotiate)
- Although _I_ might short-cut thru Didcot if I was so tired that I cared about every km, it won't be nice on a Saturday evening. Despite the occasional comment to the contrary, Didcot is no worse a town than most in England, but it's still a
Saturday Night Town Centre (and the road surface is poor).
So for me, always a 2nd best route choice.
Post by: L CC on 08 November, 2010, 04:14:45 pm
Some of them were dawdling waiting for you to pass, and mildly concerned that you hadn't by Waterperry.
FWIW - the main road to Cane End is clearly much easier than the Ipsden route - I leap-frogged quite a few riders, who were convinced I was behind them :demon:.
Excuse #22 in 'why I was so slow'
Post by: Manotea on 08 November, 2010, 04:38:03 pm
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/paudax/Maps/UTHills.jpg)
Post by: Chris S on 08 November, 2010, 04:42:47 pm
"Da Route" and the next one down both have chevrons. The main road and "Bottom Lane" (snigger) don't. This was significant for me.
Post by: NHRC Chris on 08 November, 2010, 04:43:42 pm
I always feel as though I'm getting lost traversing Bicester, though I also always seem to pop out the other side in the right place.
Here's this years trail. An obvious short cut comes to mind.
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab2/paudax/Maps/bicester.jpg)
Having inadvertantly taken the "obvious short-cut" on Saturday (took 2nd left instead of 3rd left at rbt) I would prefer the route through the town centre. The A41 was quite busy and single carriageway for most of the way, right up until you needed to get over to the right hand lane at the roundabout - not my cup of tea.
Post by: Jaded on 08 November, 2010, 04:59:32 pm
(it doesn't help that the Didcot chimney has the same spatial distance distortion properties as Membury TV mast)
I had to remind myself when I caught sight of Didcot chimney that you can see it pretty much* all round from a very long way away.
*Except from Cholsey ;D
In Bicester I set off 50m down the fast road before realising my mistake. I knew where it went and nearly carried on, but decided to retrace. My main concern was the shopping centre traffic on a Sat afternoon, and then the roundabout at the end of that stretch - on which M40 mindset traffic blasts about.
For me the road out of Bicester had two problems; the straightness, which just made it more of a drag, and the nature of the traffic - Nasty fast people passing close. It was about the only part of the ride that this happened and the other sections of the route that I expected to be busy and uncomfortable weren't at all.
Post by: mattc on 08 November, 2010, 05:04:03 pm
That's very deceptive.deceptive AND confusing!
"Da Route" and the next one down both have chevrons. The main road and "Bottom Lane" (snigger) don't. This was significant for me.
I'm not sure which of the other 3 graphs are which. And they appear to have different vertical axes!
Just visually (ignoring the illegible axes) the bottom-right has a gentler gradient.
And as Chris says, surely avoiding a chevron is a good indication of increased easyness!
Post by: Chris S on 08 November, 2010, 05:14:35 pm
Some of them were dawdling waiting for you to pass, and mildly concerned that you hadn't by Waterperry.
FWIW - the main road to Cane End is clearly much easier than the Ipsden route - I leap-frogged quite a few riders, who were convinced I was behind them :demon:.
Brian Mann warned me that I would probably be in trouble for that! Sorry if you were worried... :-\
Post by: Jaded on 08 November, 2010, 05:21:37 pm
And as Chris says, surely avoiding a chevron is a good indication of increased easyness!
Not necessarily - the awarding of Chevrons is decided by a committee of hooded men with rolled up trouser legs, in my experience.
Post by: simonp on 08 November, 2010, 05:22:47 pm
(Says he, never having ventured far west of the A1 on fixed).
Post by: Manotea on 08 November, 2010, 05:25:23 pm
That's very deceptive.deceptive AND confusing!
"Da Route" and the next one down both have chevrons. The main road and "Bottom Lane" (snigger) don't. This was significant for me.
I'm not sure which of the other 3 graphs are which. And they appear to have different vertical axes!
Just visually (ignoring the illegible axes) the bottom-right has a gentler gradient.
And as Chris says, surely avoiding a chevron is a good indication of increased easyness!
The eagle eyed will have spotted that bottom left and top right graphics were the same, now corrected (oops).
The axes were set by Mapsource I'm afraid. I cannot control those, alas.
The hills on the rhs graphics top out at 175m, effectively bypassing the 'high col' of the lhs graphics at 195m.
The graphics do highlight the difference between 'climbing' and 'gradient' though.
If I'm on form I'll definately have a crack at Da Route next time round. If.
Edit: Actually I'll have a look at it next time I'm in the neighbourhood. I climbed Berins Hill a few weeks back on the Henley Hilly Hundred but that was on a more grimperesque gear
Post by: Von Broad on 08 November, 2010, 05:35:26 pm
I went off route twice. One was planned, and i think Scott agreed it was a success. Basically we took the very quiet road parallel to the busy B4030 after Bicester. No more instructions than the official route. It may have been flatter as well, but certainly no worse:
That's the road that the Chiltern-Cotswold Brevet 200 takes [or used to take - it looks as though it's not running in quite the same format anymore. shame. Very nice ride indeed].
Post by: drgannet on 08 November, 2010, 05:38:24 pm
If there's a concern about the degree of "over distance" a better way perhaps to address this might be to come back through Didcot rather than wandering about through Harwell and the Hagbournes, since the latter is for most people ridden in darkness?
I agree with your view. The problem with the route through Didcot is the A4130 between the A34 and Didcot, though that can be avoided by going through the Milton Trading Estate. I will investigate that (by riding it at the appropriate time of a Saturday) to see how it feels.
Hi Phil
I came back through Milton trading estate and along past the power station on Saturday. Not very thrilling, but I'm local so knew what to expect - but it was no worse than the A417 (and it was very quiet until joining up with the road past the railway station).
An alternative route to Milton Park (almost the same distance, but probably easy to find the route) would be to carry on past Q gardens, then turn left into Harwell and take the back road into Didcot (B4493). Downside is you get to see more of Didcot that way...
Post by: kcass on 08 November, 2010, 06:45:47 pm
I don't get this turning up on fixed for extra hard workthen wussing out of the proper route.
Post by: Tim Hall on 08 November, 2010, 07:10:18 pm
That was the first audax I'd ridden for a while, and had been off the bike for a couple of weeks before hand. So when Sgt. Pluck suggested I go ahead while he fixed his visitation only a short distance from the start on the grounds that "he was going to be slow", I panicked. That was my strategy.
Anyway, we went round more or less together, except when the good Sgt. sped ahead so he could grab a fag break...
Rode for a bit, as noted elsewhere, with boab. She demonstrated her fine pumping action not long after I identified her as "the one who does things to pigs".
Disappointingly few Red Kites, but marvelous scenery and autumn colours. I suffered on the middle leg, climbing up to
Route sheet was as clear as a bell, going through Bicester was easy. And the soup at the end was just what was needed. I was bit tired at that point, so sat away from the crowds, chatting to Swarmcatcher.
Many thanks phild and your band of merry helpers.
Post by: Greenbank on 08 November, 2010, 07:49:28 pm
I don't get this turning up on fixed for extra hard work then wussing out of the proper route.
Nor do I (although I did once, to my shame, Larrington my way around Cleeve Hill).
I took the Cane End alternative on my first Upper Thames as I was worried about being out of time!
Post by: simonp on 08 November, 2010, 07:52:38 pm
I don't get this turning up on fixed for extra hard workthen wussing out of the proper route.
Oh, I get that. It's "macho". :)
Post by: Swarm_Catcher on 08 November, 2010, 09:25:35 pm
Here is my usual blog post: Blog (http://cyclinglifeafterlel.blogspot.com/2010/11/upper-thams-200-update.html)
And the pictures are here:Photos (http://picasaweb.google.com/worzelbenga/TheUpperThames200?feat=directlink)
[photo link has been edited]
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 08 November, 2010, 09:32:04 pm
the Food of Champions (beans on toast anna cake) put me right
The beans on toast was superb. Halfway through mine I noted an emptly plate on the table, and figured out that Tim had employed an Audax trick that I'd heard of before: cake first :) Must do that next time.
And the pictures are here:Photos (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Z9C8CLKFYga59G1BhFlz4A?feat=directlink)
Great photos :) Glad you got one of the abovementioned wall + stonemason.
Post by: Martin on 08 November, 2010, 09:37:40 pm
And the pictures are here:Photos (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Z9C8CLKFYga59G1BhFlz4A?feat=directlink)
thanks; now I know what Maharajas Well is, having passed it in a hurry to get somewhere flat many times.
Post by: Jaded on 08 November, 2010, 11:23:57 pm
And the pictures are here:Photos (http://picasaweb.google.com/worzelbenga/TheUpperThames200?feat=directlink)
Yay! I'm in a photo! ;D
Post by: Tim Hall on 08 November, 2010, 11:59:21 pm
"I used to fear hills. Now I RELISH them!"
And nice pic of the cyclist in action amongst the bare trees.
Post by: Jaded on 09 November, 2010, 12:07:35 am
Post by: pipsuds on 09 November, 2010, 08:21:34 am
Who is the bloke in the tea room shot, with is phone to his ear? He came steaming up beside me on the way to Brize Norton, extolling the virtues of energy gels:
"I used to fear hills. Now I RELISH them!"
And nice pic of the cyclist in action amongst the bare trees.
The relish-er of hills on left of photo is a friend of mine, Mark who joined me for this ride but then spent most of it trying to regain contact having had to go off piste to Thame to get a broken spoke fixed after Waterperry. Jaded's captions ought to be reversed as I (on phone in right of picture) made numerous calls between Bicester and CN trying to find out where Mark had got to...
Post by: Tim Hall on 09 November, 2010, 01:18:20 pm
I was the bloke in the tatty looking AUK top, hoovering up pearl barley soup at the end like it was going out of fashion.
Post by: phil d on 09 November, 2010, 01:49:19 pm
I was the bloke in the tatty looking AUK top, hoovering up pearl barley soup at the end like it was going out of fashion.
Good job you specified the top, else you'd have been just like a lot of others ;D. That soup is very popular. Can't say it's to my taste, but perhaps at the end of a November 200.....
Post by: Manotea on 09 November, 2010, 02:18:51 pm
Post by: Frank9755 on 09 November, 2010, 10:22:28 pm
Great event. The Chilterns on a sunny day in November are as pretty as anywhere. The two-stop layout gave the right mix of continuity and rest and it is good to feel you've done the bigger hills early on rather than having them in the dark when tired. Route sheet and organisation were first class.
Only problem was the punctures. I've never seen so many up-turned bikes. Then I got mine next to the dry stone wall that was being (re)built before CN. Luckily I got a bit of sun as I fixed it, to help me avoid getting cold.
Post by: phil d on 18 November, 2010, 06:27:42 pm
Thanks for all the positive comments. See you all next year.
Post by: Chris S on 18 November, 2010, 06:34:54 pm
Results are now on the AUK website, and I received the validation stickers today. So I hope to get the brevets posted tomorrow, though 24 hours slippage could occur.
And attributed to 2009/10 results! That's two Upper Thames's in the same year.
Howzatworkthen?
Post by: phil d on 19 November, 2010, 06:37:52 am
Results are now on the AUK website, and I received the validation stickers today. So I hope to get the brevets posted tomorrow, though 24 hours slippage could occur.
And attributed to 2009/10 results! That's two Upper Thames's in the same year.
Howzatworkthen?
I'm sure it will be moved once a new year is opened on the results page. I think that has happened before. I imagine there could still be one or two "open" events in the old year.
Post by: Martin on 22 September, 2015, 02:02:41 pm
An excellent Big Field Autumn 200 ( you are rarely out of sight of other riders along the whole route)and one of the unofficial Brevets des Chilterns with excellent catering all round and sublime leaves along the section after Chippy;
and a rare chance to see the Didcot chimney moving Eastwards at 20kph (well it seems to as it never gets any nearer) with a spectacular pyrotechnic backdrop for most of the dark section
Who's in?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 22 September, 2015, 07:30:56 pm
Who's in?
Me
Post by: Manotea on 22 September, 2015, 07:34:32 pm
*I can still hear Phil calling, 'Mary, look who's here!'.
Post by: Chris S on 22 September, 2015, 07:40:55 pm
'Mary, look who's here!'.
Well, that's a Sig, right there!
Post by: simonp on 22 September, 2015, 09:47:51 pm
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 23 September, 2015, 08:56:18 am
Post by: Fab Foodie on 23 September, 2015, 11:20:45 am
Post by: jochta on 23 September, 2015, 12:10:36 pm
Post by: Ray 6701 on 23 September, 2015, 12:23:01 pm
Thanks Marmitegeoff "again" :thumbsup:
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on 23 September, 2015, 12:23:46 pm
Tempted ....
I fancy it too as my first Audax- ride to start and back would make it a nice 150 miler to end the year. Will discuss with you at freewheelers! I think my mate Adam who did a London ride with you might fancy it as part of his Lejog prep as well.
Post by: L CC on 23 September, 2015, 12:31:24 pm
Post by: andyoxon on 23 September, 2015, 12:59:04 pm
Post by: mattc on 23 September, 2015, 01:06:36 pm
'm in. Would be nice to have 16C & sun again... I'll also plan to have a tad more to eat at Waterperry, as if memory serves I didn't get to Chippy until ~3pm. Had a good burger n'chips, but this time perhaps better go for soup...Wise words! Unless we get a rare Easterly wind, ChippingN is always a long way, with uppy bits.
(but dont forget we go through Bicester with its billion shops; can be quicker/cheaper than Waterperry. Personally I just make sure my pockets are full leaving WP :) )
Post by: Tim Hall on 23 September, 2015, 01:09:34 pm
Planning to ride this again. Must remember to take plenty of food as I did last year as it's a damn long way to Chipping Norton from Waterperry and I usually arrive there well after my tummy's telling me it's lunchtime :)
There's a convenience store on the edge of Bicester (I think) that the route goes right past. The army place anyway. On my two goes on this ride I've filled up with pies there.
Post by: tonyh on 23 September, 2015, 01:24:52 pm
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=460492&y=219814&z=115&sv=460492,219814&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=635&ax=460492&ay=219814&lm=0
Post by: andyoxon on 23 September, 2015, 01:37:56 pm
It's here, on the left at the top of a small rise (or top of a big climb if you're in severe need of the shop):
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=460492&y=219814&z=115&sv=460492,219814&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=635&ax=460492&ay=219814&lm=0
That may be useful, thanks. T'is a Spar... (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8738639,-1.1232364,3a,29.4y,254.88h,85.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smRGe2_3enY2Ozr_yQ3bqgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Post by: hillbilly on 23 September, 2015, 01:39:59 pm
I am going to try and not enjoy a thoroughly enjoyable route (in other words, I hope to tear around this at an uncomfortable pace to test how quickly I can do a "flat" 200) :sick:
See y'all at the start and hopefully neither the fireworks nor most of you at the end (nothing personal :) )
Post by: andyoxon on 23 September, 2015, 02:26:52 pm
I've entered. Not done it for an age (since back in the days it ran from Sonning Common). It was, at one time, one of my favourite 200s due to Phil and Mary's hosting, the refined nature of the route (albeit with some kerchunky lanes) and the finish which coincided with fireworks (you'd climb up a Quiet Lane to a ridge and see a panorama of ephemeral primary coloured supernovae burst like boiling water above pockets of sodium lit villages, or sumthing).
I am going to try and not enjoy a thoroughly enjoyable route (in other words, I hope to tear around this at an uncomfortable pace to test how quickly I can do a "flat" 200) :sick:
See y'all at the start and hopefully neither the fireworks nor most of you at the end (nothing personal :) )
Mark Twain & golf spring to mind... ;)
Wallingford fireworks probably start ~7pm+
Post by: marcusjb on 23 September, 2015, 02:51:42 pm
This is actually the event I have ridden more than any other (done it the last 4 or 5 editions), so it must be good!
It is the real start of Autumn riding in my mind, the leaves are all going or gone, usually fairly chilly first thing etc.
Lovely ride and fabulous hosting.
Terrible admission - I've never seen the fireworks!
Post by: hillbilly on 23 September, 2015, 03:04:02 pm
T'is a Spar... (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8738639,-1.1232364,3a,29.4y,254.88h,85.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smRGe2_3enY2Ozr_yQ3bqgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Oh, hello, is this Spar?
[img height=100 width=200]http://techmoran.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/king-leonidas-this-is-sparta-300-1920x10801.jpg[/img]
Post by: Malmesbury Monk on 23 September, 2015, 06:55:25 pm
Post by: Von Broad on 23 September, 2015, 09:47:17 pm
For me it symbolizes sharp Autumnal mornings and evenings, a few lumps here and there, headwinds out to Chippy, Soup at the finish, going home and hanging the boots up, culminating in five months disappearing under the duvet....until the weather changes.
Fair weather? Sorry, always was.
Hopefully I'll be there.
Post by: phil d on 24 September, 2015, 08:56:08 pm
couldn't find a more recent thread so I'll recycle this one like PhilD does with his SAE's :thumbsup:Thanks for your kind words, Martin. And everyone else who has responded. You might be out of luck re seeing the Didcot chimney. Three of the cooling towers came down last year, and the other three are due to be demolished sometime in 2016. But I read in the Oxford Guardian recently that something is coming down this Saturday, 26/9. Not sure whether it's the turbine hall, the chimney or both (the article was not particularly clear, and I had imbibed rather a lot of happy-juice, it being my son's wedding the day I read it).
An excellent Big Field Autumn 200 ( you are rarely out of sight of other riders along the whole route)and one of the unofficial Brevets des Chilterns with excellent catering all round and sublime leaves along the section after Chippy;
and a rare chance to see the Didcot chimney moving Eastwards at 20kph (well it seems to as it never gets any nearer) with a spectacular pyrotechnic backdrop for most of the dark section
Who's in?
I have about 40 entries so far; about normal at this stage,so I anticipate 80- 100 riders. Mary will be providing her normal excellent hot fare (the leeks are developing well in the garden, so the soup should be good). If anyone has any queries / worries about the event, please email me or telephone (details on the AUK calendar page) as I'm not such a regular reader of these pages nowadays (retired, so less time available).
Note to Mr Weir - it might not have an awful lot of metres of ascent, but few who complete it call it "flat"!
Note to RedEyeJedi - I don't think there has been edition of this ride (and this is about #12) without a good number of first timers.
Note to AndyOxon (andTim Hall and Jochta) - the Spar is in Ambrosden. As you say, right alongside the route just before Bicester. There are plenty of refreshment opportunities in Bicester, including a Subway on the route and a rather big Sainsburys.
Note to MattC - Easterlies to assist the ride between Bicester and CN have not happened yet, to my recollection. But the wind will probably have swung to Easterly by the time you get to Stanford i t Vale! (I'm assuming you are going to enter)
I shall try to get Waterperry to do more bacon sannies this year. They were worried about being left with stock (they don't usually sell bacon sannies) but quickly sold out last year.
P
Post by: jochta on 24 September, 2015, 10:22:25 pm
Post by: RichForrest on 30 September, 2015, 01:21:55 pm
Was my 1st 200 back in 2006 and the last calendar ride I did in 2011.
Not done a 200 since late Nov '11 so will see how this goes if I get there for the 07.30 start after a 23.30 finish at work on the Fri.
Rich
Post by: mattc on 30 September, 2015, 03:12:56 pm
... if I get there for the 07.30 start after a 23.30 finish at work on the Fri.Bags of time for an ECE!
Post by: RichForrest on 30 September, 2015, 04:08:56 pm
Post by: De Sisti on 30 September, 2015, 05:07:46 pm
Post by: Von Broad on 04 October, 2015, 12:31:26 am
Oh, I seem to have entered this again!!
Was my 1st 200 back in 2006 and the last calendar ride I did in 2011.
Not done a 200 since late Nov '11 so will see how this goes if I get there for the 07.30 start after a 23.30 finish at work on the Fri.
Hey, good to see you, welcome back Rich. Weather permitting I'll be there too, although not DarkSiding unfortunately [unless I can borrow one], as my frame is pretty borked [built in haste initially actually] after PBP.
Post by: JamesBradbury on 05 October, 2015, 12:35:12 pm
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 05 October, 2015, 08:50:05 pm
Post by: NeilH on 06 October, 2015, 07:35:59 am
Post by: phil d on 26 October, 2015, 05:53:00 pm
Drove round the route today (unfortunately cannot ride at present; great pity as it was an excellent day) and all is as described on the routesheet. I've emailed all entrants this afternoon, and updated the documents on www.thamesvalleyaudax.co.uk
Post by: Whitedown Man on 26 October, 2015, 06:19:24 pm
Post by: Bobby on 27 October, 2015, 12:13:18 am
Post by: phil d on 27 October, 2015, 08:45:15 am
NOW TAKEN
Post by: phil d on 31 October, 2015, 04:53:59 pm
I notice that while the Wallingford fireworks are happening this weekend, Didcot and Aston Tirrold (one of the last villages you ride through) are scheduled for next Saturday. So those of you who like to pop up to Wallingford after the ride will be disappointed, but there should be good views as you pass around Didcot and over Cholsey Hill.
Let's hope for weather like this afternoon.....
Post by: jochta on 31 October, 2015, 08:22:15 pm
Post by: Frank9755 on 03 November, 2015, 10:10:20 pm
Post by: phil d on 03 November, 2015, 11:04:34 pm
.......I notice that while the Wallingford fireworks are happening this weekend, ....... So those of you who like to pop up to Wallingford after the ride will be disappointed, but there should be good views as you pass around Didcot and over Cholsey Hill.
Got that completely wrong. Wallingford fireworks are indeed on 7th, starting about 1845.
Post by: Martin on 03 November, 2015, 11:10:03 pm
https://www.dailyinfo.co.uk/fireworks-displays-2015
all a bit academic for me ::-)
Post by: marcusjb on 04 November, 2015, 08:43:32 am
Well, it would not feel like autumn without a ride around this great route.
Post by: Chris S on 04 November, 2015, 07:52:59 pm
Well, it would not feel like autumn without a ride around this great route.
:thumbsup: Well said!
Looks like Phil's ordered proper weather this time. Wind, rain and extra wind. Yay!
Post by: mattc on 04 November, 2015, 08:15:50 pm
(but very windy!)
Post by: hillbilly on 04 November, 2015, 11:54:42 pm
(This may seem strange, but I've set myself the target of riding a 300km every month and so the window in the weather is best clambered through lest it shuts and stays shut for the rest of the month).
Post by: jsabine on 05 November, 2015, 12:02:24 am
(Having enjoyed it considerably a couple of years ago, I'm otherwise engaged this weekend. Bah.)
Post by: Cold Snail on 05 November, 2015, 09:32:09 pm
This will be the first Audax I have ridden where I have absolutely no idea where I will be :thumbsup:
Post by: hippy on 06 November, 2015, 02:43:39 pm
Post by: Martin on 06 November, 2015, 02:54:57 pm
Just decided to bite the bullet and go for it.
This will be the first Audax I have ridden where I have absolutely no idea where I will be :thumbsup:
you don't need to ! it's a mix of lovely leafy lanes (trying to find the original lovely lane it no longer uses) high Cotswold views with kites, a few charming small towns, and then the final approach to Didcot with a backdrop of Didcot power station chimney light and constant pyrotechnics
and if you are extremely lucky you will catch the end of the runway at Brize Norton when they switch on the red flashing lights and be treated to the sight of an RAF Hercules landing 50ft over your head :thumbsup: (this happended in 2012)
Top Ride :)
Post by: andyoxon on 06 November, 2015, 03:17:21 pm
Post by: drgannet on 06 November, 2015, 03:45:25 pm
it's a mix of lovely leafy lanes (trying to find the original lovely lane it no longer uses) high Cotswold views with kites
That's somewhat optimistic given the forecast for tomorrow! But it is forecast to be clear in the late afternoon evening for the fireworks.
Post by: Martin on 06 November, 2015, 04:20:16 pm
unless you want to cycle along them....
Post by: Chris S on 06 November, 2015, 04:38:55 pm
Post by: hippy on 06 November, 2015, 04:42:50 pm
Post by: Frank9755 on 06 November, 2015, 06:44:51 pm
Post by: hippy on 06 November, 2015, 09:45:18 pm
Post by: L CC on 06 November, 2015, 09:55:05 pm
Post by: Bledlow on 06 November, 2015, 10:18:52 pm
The thought of negotiating the tandem down a Skogg-coated White Lane, Bix, dodging 4x4s is filling me with glee. :thumbsup:I just looked at the route, wondering which of the three possible lanes down from Bix is on it.
IMO that one's the worst. Take care.
Post by: hippy on 06 November, 2015, 10:53:48 pm
Post by: Whitedown Man on 06 November, 2015, 10:59:13 pm
Bix?
Beiderbecke. Will be providing musical encouragement at the 100km control.
Post by: marcusjb on 06 November, 2015, 11:01:20 pm
Bix?
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
(More skog and poorly maintained surfaces in reality. It is a tricky bit of road. We must be cautious.)
Post by: hippy on 07 November, 2015, 05:18:34 am
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 07 November, 2015, 11:22:28 am
Post by: Whitedown Man on 07 November, 2015, 12:48:04 pm
Post by: phil d on 07 November, 2015, 01:27:27 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 07 November, 2015, 05:02:50 pm
Post by: Bledlow on 07 November, 2015, 05:38:18 pm
It is a place which used to have a conspicuous & commodious pub, serving excellent beer & edible food, & with a large & pleasant garden - which I hardly saw any locals in, on the occasions when I stopped there while cycling. It's now a private house. >:( Is that enough to qualify as a wretched hive of scum and villainy?Bix?
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
(More skog and poorly maintained surfaces in reality. It is a tricky bit of road. We must be cautious.)
All three roads (not counting the A4130) down from there towards Lower & Middle Assendon are rough & mucky, with enough tree cover to provide a coating of wet leaves in today's weather. Nasty.
I salute everyone with the guts to set off in the rain & wind this morning.
PS. And I'm pleased for Phil that he got a respectable turnout.
Post by: andyoxon on 07 November, 2015, 05:58:17 pm
Enjoyed the ride to Waterperry (where I packed due to some knee ache before it had chance to get worse). The Chilterns were rainy and skoggful, but relatively sheltered from the wind, with some good autumn colours still in the atmospheric gloom. Some almost horizontal rain before Wheatley. Had coffee/bacon roll (gone up in price!) & brownee, before heading back to Abingdon. 92km in all.
Post by: hippy on 07 November, 2015, 06:37:50 pm
Bike cleaning can wait until tomorrow, the missus is cooking steak and chips, better go :)
Post by: marcusjb on 07 November, 2015, 07:46:18 pm
It was warm, which made the day bearable. Had it been only a few degrees cooler, it would have been horrific.
There was a lot of rain. A real lot at times. It was not constant, but there was enough of it!
The wind was rather stern at times.
But it was all good fun. Even the crappy little diversion due to the drunk driver idiot who had brought down the power lines.
The last bit of daylight was rather wonderful and sunny with lots of great light bouncing off the rain clouds.
A member of the AUK board of directors and I had a coming together (well, he rammed my bike from behind!) causing a bit of a sore knee and twisted back. I can assure you I will not be voting him back onto the board! No major harm done, just a little uncomfortable.
arrivee with pasta etc. Spot on as ever.
Massive thanks to the Dysons and everyone involved for a tough, but enjoyable day out.
Post by: jochta on 07 November, 2015, 09:46:59 pm
Struggled on the section from Bicester to Chippy as usual, I find this gradual uphill section really demoralising. I stopped in Somerton to eat my sarnies to give me the boost to get to Chippy. I was an hour later than last year to the café so not much daylight left afterwards which was a shame as the Sun had come out by then. The section from Chippy back to Arrivée is my favourite though especially as I don't need to follow the routesheet from Minster Lovell as I know the roads so well from there. The dreaded headwind never materialised and I was flying back to Cholsey. Saw some fireworks and got back to pasta at 7.20pm.
With the diversion and cycling to and from home I made 250km for the day so pretty pleased with that.
Thanks to Phil and helpers for all the hard work in putting the event on :)
Post by: LMT on 07 November, 2015, 09:57:21 pm
Cracking day out. Pleased to have had the opportunity to top up my tan, so unusual for November.
It was warm, which made the day bearable. Had it been only a few degrees cooler, it would have been horrific.
There was a lot of rain. A real lot at times. It was not constant, but there was enough of it!
The wind was rather stern at times.
But it was all good fun. Even the crappy little diversion due to the drunk driver idiot who had brought down the power lines.
The last bit of daylight was rather wonderful and sunny with lots of great light bouncing off the rain clouds.
A member of the AUK board of directors and I had a coming together (well, he rammed my bike from behind!) causing a bit of a sore knee and twisted back. I can assure you I will not be voting him back onto the board! No major harm done, just a little uncomfortable.
arrivee with pasta etc. Spot on as ever.
Massive thanks to the Dysons and everyone involved for a tough, but enjoyable day out.
Glad you are okay, and as the saying goes - only a c*** hits the one in front.
I bottled it this year with respect to this ride, chapeau to evryone who got round in some rather horrible conditions.
Post by: phil d on 07 November, 2015, 11:45:46 pm
65 finished (on the day, plus Stephen R who rode in the week as a last-minute route check), and as ever there were some 200k virgins. Chapeau in particular to them.
I've said it before, but it must be said again, the event cannot happen without considerable support from others. In particular Mary, of course, who organised, prepared and served all the food. But also Mick Simmons ("controller #2" referred to above, and organiser of the Kennet Valley Run events), son Andy who helped in the kitchen, Matt Chambers and Brian Perry, who helped outside at the start, Stephen Rogers for both checking the route and manning the Chippy control and Brian Mann who helped set up and take down the arrivee. And a special mention to Sue Lister, who unexpectedly was at Waterperry and helped me record the riders.
And as ever thanks to all the entrants who make all the effort worthwhile. There will be a contribution to Air Ambulance; I'll post up here when I've finalised the accounts.
Post by: Martin on 07 November, 2015, 11:47:37 pm
Thanks for the soup & pasta Mary; and thanks Phil and all your helpers for the usual great day out, is mattc still stuck up to his neck in mud in the car park? (I used the road)
Post by: hippy on 08 November, 2015, 12:20:55 am
Ah, that was another event I missed this year with a busted collarbone (not ice like we talked about but a pothole, in town!). Maybe I'll get next year's edition :)
Post by: marcusjb on 08 November, 2015, 09:26:53 am
Glad you are okay, and as the saying goes - only a c*** hits the one in front
A little strong.
I was stationary, and it was a low speed shunt due to lack of concentration. If I had been on a geared bike, I would have most likely just been pushed forwards, but on fixed, the cranks lifted me and twisted me over.
Part of the blame lies with me anyway.
Just one of those things and it was a minor incident with no major harm done (and I am sure, in no way related to my nomination of LWaB for the board!) and all will be healed up ready for the real fighting next weekend.
Post by: Chris S on 08 November, 2015, 11:27:13 am
Sure, the weather was everything we'd been expecting in the morning, but it cleared up nicely in the afternoon, and we definitely had more help than hindrance from the wind.
A string of mechanicals underlined the need for the tandem to spend some time in dry dock, including a rather buttock clenching moment when the front tyre exploded at some speed, just before Buckland. And of course, we all love being on a tandem with only one brake.
We seemed to be going well, fboab is rapidly getting scarily strong, which gave me an easy day, to be honest.
Today, I'm eating an infeasibly large breakfast whilst fboab does the double, riding the Eureka. In the pouring rain, naturally ☺
Post by: Somnolent on 08 November, 2015, 12:51:34 pm
Glad you are okay, and as the saying goes - only a c*** hits the one in front
A little strong.
I was stationary, and it was a low speed shunt due to lack of concentration. If I had been on a geared bike, I would have most likely just been pushed forwards, but on fixed, the cranks lifted me and twisted me over.
Part of the blame lies with me anyway.
Just one of those things and it was a minor incident with no major harm done (and I am sure, in no way related to my nomination of LWaB for the board!) and all will be healed up ready for the real fighting next weekend.
Note to self.
Try to examine fine detail map on 2" screen of GPS - or --- ride. Not both at same time. :facepalm:
Sorry again Marcus.
Post by: hippy on 08 November, 2015, 01:41:07 pm
Actually I did catch and pass a training bunch heading into Bicester.
Then took a wrong turn of course.
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2015, 04:09:50 pm
There will be a contribution to Air Ambulance; I'll post up here when I've finalised the accounts.
£340
This is a contribution of the surplus on the event and the contributions made by riders on the day. Thanks to all.
Post by: marcusjb on 08 November, 2015, 04:14:16 pm
Sorry again Marcus.
No worries at all!
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/d381f70680dab2f091396d63f44e7f55/tumblr_mosvysv3PS1suaaq5o1_500.gif)
Post by: redfalo on 08 November, 2015, 04:33:45 pm
I rode the first two thirds with @Frank9755, meaning I was punching above my weight speed-wise. After bouncing the first control urgently needed a rest at Chipping Norton, while Frank the machine carried on. Outstanding soup and pasta at arrivée. Big thanks to Phil and everyone else involved in making this happen.
Post by: beeblemaster on 08 November, 2015, 04:54:10 pm
I found the ride rather challenging, given the conditions, but I enjoyed it nevertheless.
The Chilterns were simply stunning with miles of forests showing off their autumn colours - what a treat! Then the views between Bicester and Chipping Norton with their wide rolling valleys offered a superb backdrop - and even better now the sun had come out to keep us company.
Dusk came to us at Brize Norton and darkness fell by the time we got to Bampton and after a quick stop at the Co-Op there, we were treated to a nice easy run back to the Arrivee where welcome food awaited us.
Thanks to Phil and all involved in organising this event.
Skogtastic (whatever that means)! :thumbsup: ;D
Post by: longflaps on 08 November, 2015, 05:01:25 pm
and if you are extremely lucky you will catch the end of the runway at Brize Norton when they switch on the red flashing lights and be treated to the sight of an RAF Hercules landing 50ft over your head :thumbsup: (this happended in 2012)
Top Ride :)
Yes, what a sight! To watch one of those huge planes gracefully and rather quietly descend - enough to bring tears to the eyes - and not a single sound of a skid as it was placed gently down on the runway. Definitely one of the highlights of the day.
All in all a great day out. Lots of lovely lanes in both Cotswolds and Chilterns and even some free CX thrown in for good measure. Food stops were perfectly timed to lift and restore flagging spirits. Thank you Phil, Mary and all who helped. This was my first Upper Thames, but 'm sure not my last. :thumbsup:
Post by: Diesel on 08 November, 2015, 05:21:44 pm
I found the section into Chipping really tough into the wind but enjoyed the route and some good company.
Well done to all who I shared the experience with!
Post by: Bobby on 08 November, 2015, 05:39:15 pm
I rode this as full value ride taking my time at the stops & generally not hurrying on the road. I successfully ECEd up to 300 (about 345 all told I think). It was bloody wet when I set off at 4am, and I was getting cold when I got home at 11pm - whose bright idea what that? I didn't leave the start until 7:55, and Phil confirmed I was last leaving Waterperry. I was very pleased to see the sun come out, though i started to struggle when it then set :facepalm:
Martin - glad you got lights sorted so you could both get round, we kept crossing over on the road but I didn't see you again after Bicester
Post by: JamesBradbury on 08 November, 2015, 08:21:53 pm
Thought "I'm damned if I got up at 5:20am for nothing", so I did the route anyway and enjoyed it! :thumbsup:
Maybe one day I'll get to the start of this one in good health and on time! At this rate I should writing an article for Arrivee entitled "How to fail at audax". ::-)
Post by: Mr Green on 08 November, 2015, 09:19:20 pm
Given that it was so wet, I am surprised that I enjoyed it so much. The rain didn't damped the spirits as it was so warm and the only down side was a small diversion.
Well done to those for whom it was their first 200km as this was quite a toughie, not quite the Infamous poor student, but still a well earnt two points.
Thanks to Oli and Richard who made the ride ride all the more enjoyable. 200km solo in the rain on your own is quite an undertaking, so good company made the km's fly by.
Arthur :smug:
Post by: tonyh on 08 November, 2015, 09:30:16 pm
.... so I did the route anyway and enjoyed it! :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Martin on 08 November, 2015, 10:01:53 pm
Food stops were perfectly timed to lift and restore flagging spirits. Thank you Phil, Mary and all who helped. This was my first Upper Thames, but 'm sure not my last. :thumbsup:
Yes I've noticed that events from this particular chapter go for the "every 70 km-ish" control format; rather than every 50; and they work really well to cut down faffage time & maximise important intakes of food at strategic intervals so you don't feel like you are running on empty towards the end, without skipping any thinking "I'll grab something at the next one"
there are always plenty of extra options en route too :thumbsup:
Post by: Bledlow on 09 November, 2015, 10:53:37 am
... Mick Simmons ("controller #2" referred to above, and organiser of the Kennet Valley Run events), ...Perhaps the person chiefly responsible for introducing me to audax, over 20 years ago, though I've only been an occasional audaxer, so one could say he didn't really succeed. I remember seeing Mick & Alan Furley disappear into the distance on my first audax.
Post by: Chris S on 09 November, 2015, 07:23:31 pm
there are always plenty of extra options en route too :thumbsup:
Oddly enough, we always stop at the Co-Op in Stanford-in-the-Vale; just for refreshments, loo, and those "How many times have we ever got here in daylight?" discussions/arguments!
Post by: Fab Foodie on 09 November, 2015, 07:38:29 pm
I was up for this until work conspired to send me to the deepest darkest parts of the Russian front (at least I weekended in Moscow ...) so now it'll have to be next year :-(
Inspiring stuff tho'.
Post by: L CC on 09 November, 2015, 07:55:18 pm
Sure, we got wet, but it was really really mild, and the nagging headwind didn't seem any worse than any other year, whereas the tailwind for the last section seemed much more generous than I've ever felt before?
In lots of ways it was the best Upper Thames for a while- I didn't feel beasted at the end, and the soup was well up to Mary's usual high standard.
:thumbsup:
Post by: Chris S on 09 November, 2015, 08:00:39 pm
In lots of ways it was the best Upper Thames for a while- I didn't feel beasted at the end, and the soup was well up to Mary's usual high standard.
:thumbsup:
Never underestimate the ability for Training to make things seem easier :thumbsup:.
Oh - and viewing this ride through the filter of that Mancunian rain at the end of the Eureka 200 yesterday, probably helps!
Post by: PAC on 09 November, 2015, 09:37:02 pm
I have to say...I was impressed at the speed you powered past me & disappeared into the distance just after Stoke Row ;D :thumbsup:In lots of ways it was the best Upper Thames for a while- I didn't feel beasted at the end, and the soup was well up to Mary's usual high standard.
:thumbsup:
Never underestimate the ability for Training to make things seem easier :thumbsup:.
Oh - and viewing this ride through the filter of that Mancunian rain at the end of the Eureka 200 yesterday, probably helps!
Post by: Frank9755 on 10 November, 2015, 08:03:15 am
I'm feeling slightly bemused- was it really that terrible, weather-wise?
Sure, we got wet, but it was really really mild, and the nagging headwind didn't seem any worse than any other year, whereas the tailwind for the last section seemed much more generous than I've ever felt before?
In lots of ways it was the best Upper Thames for a while- I didn't feel beasted at the end, and the soup was well up to Mary's usual high standard.
:thumbsup:
Agree. I thought about not riding - because of the wind and the risk of bits of tree (or power cable) blowing down, not the rain. But I'm really glad I did. Two heavy showers and a few hours of drizzle, then over three hours of sunshine to finish off. I was (almost) dry by the end and was never remotely cold. I'd settle for that weather for any November ride!
Post by: marcusjb on 10 November, 2015, 09:33:22 am
But, at no point did the weather make me want to stop. It was so warm that it was actually rather good fun being utterly soaked (I did not put my rain jacket on for much of the day!).
If it had been only a few degrees cooler, we really would have been able to say it was a really bad weather day.
I loved it and was glad to have got out of bed at 4 (I did consider staying in bed for a few seconds!).
Post by: Cold Snail on 10 November, 2015, 10:41:39 am
This was my first audax that I have ridden with on/off leg cramps for over 100 miles and that also included some British weather (I only started in March and it's been quite a nice summer down in Kent).
I was a little apprehensive the night before as I knew it would be a long day with a two hour drive at each end and having to work on the Sunday, but am glad I rode it just to show how much more work I need to put in.
Not wearing my glasses for the first half didn't help, as I pushed a little harder than normal trying to keep other riders in sight although there did appear to be quite a few riders suffering punctures in the first bit, which spread riders out.
When the sun showed itself and I was back to wearing glasses, I took a little break to fix the rear brake that had lost all of its feel along that detoured lane, and discovered that my seatpost had gone in by 1-2cm which explained why my legs weren't feeling that great and why I had to spin up the hills.
Somewhere after Bicester, I met with up with Brian and he stuck with me having a chat and encouraging me to the end (which flowed by) and I would like to thank him for his patience with me as by then my legs were pretty shot.
I see the ride is also available as a GPSDIY, I am definitely coming back soon to have another go.
In the meantime, I'm off to the hills.
Many thanks.
Paul.
(Big bloke on the Tour De Fer)
Post by: L CC on 10 November, 2015, 11:05:55 am
But, at no point did the weather make me want to stop. It was so warm that it was actually rather good fun being utterly soaked (I did not put my rain jacket on for much of the day!).I think you're right Marcus- no jacket for me either- but then I do have that fancy fairing sitting out in front.
If it had been only a few degrees cooler, we really would have been able to say it was a really bad weather day.
I loved it and was glad to have got out of bed at 4 (I did consider staying in bed for a few seconds!).
Only a 5:30 start- I might have felt differently if I'd been up at 4 looking out into squally rain, and I certainly was glad not to be the one driving afterwards.
Somewhere after Bicester, I met with up with Brian and he stuck with me having a chat and encouraging me to the end (which flowed by) and I would like to thank him for his patience with me as by then my legs were pretty shot.Is that Brian Mann of the Sudbury? Lovely guy, and you're not the first in being cheered home by his great company on the road.
Post by: Cold Snail on 10 November, 2015, 11:56:13 am
Somewhere after Bicester, I met with up with Brian and he stuck with me having a chat and encouraging me to the end (which flowed by) and I would like to thank him for his patience with me as by then my legs were pretty shot.Is that Brian Mann of the Sudbury? Lovely guy, and you're not the first in being cheered home by his great company on the road.
I believe so, he was riding the Dawes Galaxy and had his motorhome parked up by the church by the last set of lights.
Post by: andyoxon on 10 November, 2015, 12:28:38 pm
...Last year I cycled with Brian to Waterperry - top chap. :)Somewhere after Bicester, I met with up with Brian and he stuck with me having a chat and encouraging me to the end (which flowed by) and I would like to thank him for his patience with me as by then my legs were pretty shot.Is that Brian Mann of the Sudbury? Lovely guy, and you're not the first in being cheered home by his great company on the road.
Post by: Bobby on 10 November, 2015, 12:51:23 pm
In lots of ways it was the best Upper Thames for a while- I didn't feel beasted at the end, and the soup was well up to Mary's usual high standard.Never underestimate the ability for Training to make things seem easier :thumbsup:.
:thumbsup:
This
I found some of the cross-winds interesting at times, being buffeted sidesways inst always fun... but mainly I found it hard because I haven't got the legs at the moment. The weather was fine, I would have been nicer to have an M. C. Escher style ride that was constantly downhill with a constant tail wind.
On the other hand, maybe I should just get fitter :)
Post by: phil d on 10 November, 2015, 03:23:14 pm
Unfortunately he won't see these comments as he is one of those chaps who has found no need of computers and the interweb. I will be writing to him shortly and will tell him of Paul's (and Andy's) comments.
Post by: mattc on 10 November, 2015, 06:38:43 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpu6kjrsvk0
(fortunately he talks a lot more sense)
Post by: Redlight on 10 November, 2015, 06:45:15 pm
Brian is indeed a top chap.
I'll echo that. Several years ago I had my front lights stolen at one of the controls on, IIRC, the Severn Across. I mentioned this to him as we were riding into Stow and said that I would be going off route to find a bike shop, whereupon he produced a spare from his saddlebag, asking me simply to leave it on the step of the motorhome when I got back to the community centre (he could tell he'd be back well before me!).
Post by: Somnolent on 12 November, 2015, 02:11:30 pm
Mine are nowhere to be found after last w/e.
Post by: phil d on 21 November, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Post by: phil d on 27 June, 2016, 07:40:22 pm
There are no changes this year (unless roadworks force them on me) as I see no point changing a popular event. This is the 14th offering; one or two riders have ridden them all!
Phil
Post by: NeilH on 28 June, 2016, 10:47:34 am
Post by: marcusjb on 28 June, 2016, 10:51:11 am
Let's get summer out of the way and I will see whether I am up for it. Suspect I will be and with the plans for next year already being formulated, a strong winter campaign is going to be a necessity!
Post by: Kangaroocourt on 29 June, 2016, 08:57:04 pm
Post by: Manotea on 29 June, 2016, 09:12:30 pm
Post by: inappropriate_bike on 19 September, 2016, 10:50:32 pm
Barring unexpected matrimony is anyone planning on taking the 5:56am train from Paddington? Or the 5:05am train from Waterloo? (Connects to the 5:56am Paddington train at Reading - goes through Putney, Richmond, Ascot etc.)
Post by: phil d on 20 October, 2016, 08:38:10 pm
They have a new manager now, who seems more reluctant than the last one. In fairness, the cafe no longer has any red meat on the premises, so providing bacon sandwiches would be a bit of a problem, but the manager has agreed to ask the powers that be if they will relax the ruling for us. I think it is unlikely.
I have just put an update up on the ThamesValleyAudax site, but don't rush to look at it - I may need to make more substantial changes tomorrow or over the weekend, depending on what I find out about some roadworks which may involve road closure (though I suspect closure would only be overnight). Have a look on Monday.
85 entries so far, so once again there will be plenty of company for anyone uncertain about riding. Based on previous year's experience this sort of entry level 2 weeks ahead usually means about 100 riders on the day.
Phil
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 20 October, 2016, 08:51:58 pm
Some bad news. Those of you who have ridden this event before will be aware that a couple of years ago I persuaded the cafe at Waterperry to put on bacon sandwiches. They were very reluctant, and only did about 25, a few of which were bought by other customers so some audax riders were disappointed. I had more complaints about this than I've had for any other aspect of this event over the 12 years it's run! So last year they agreed to double up, and still ran out!I will not worry about this. I have been known to eat cake from time to time. I understand some other cyclists quite like cake as well.
They have a new manager now, who seems more reluctant than the last one. In fairness, the cafe no longer has any red meat on the premises, so providing bacon sandwiches would be a bit of a problem, but the manager has agreed to ask the powers that be if they will relax the ruling for us. I think it is unlikely.
I have just put an update up on the ThamesValleyAudax site, but don't rush to look at it - I may need to make more substantial changes tomorrow or over the weekend, depending on what I find out about some roadworks which may involve road closure (though I suspect closure would only be overnight). Have a look on Monday.
85 entries so far, so once again there will be plenty of company for anyone uncertain about riding. Based on previous year's experience this sort of entry level 2 weeks ahead usually means about 100 riders on the day.
Phil
BB
Post by: PAC on 21 October, 2016, 09:26:43 pm
Post by: 3peaker on 22 October, 2016, 02:35:29 pm
Post by: phil d on 23 October, 2016, 08:49:14 pm
95 entries so far.
Post by: De Sisti on 23 October, 2016, 08:56:40 pm
Post by: Manotea on 24 October, 2016, 12:12:46 am
Post by: phil d on 24 October, 2016, 06:02:48 pm
Post by: andyoxon on 02 November, 2016, 03:30:07 pm
Post by: phil d on 02 November, 2016, 04:21:16 pm
Definitely no bacon sandwiches at Waterperry, but they might well be doing scrambled eggs on toast. And cakes / pastries of course.
Weather forecast looks reasonable - chill (maybe frosty) start, generally pretty cool, overcast day with light NNW breeze. 10% chance of precipitation.
As Andy says, colours in the Chilterns and Cotswolds currently outstanding.
Up to 117 entries now. Anyone still prevaricating needs to note that on-line entry closes at midnight Thursday. You can still enter on the day (if you really must!) but it'll cost a flat rate £10 regardless of AUK or CTC membership, and you must bring a completed entry form with you.
Post by: Whitedown Man on 02 November, 2016, 04:53:04 pm
Post by: simonp on 02 November, 2016, 05:08:05 pm
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 02 November, 2016, 05:09:58 pm
Looking forward to it, though pressure of work (yawn) means I've not been able to give it much thought yet. Any locals able to give advice on best local station to use if travelling by train from that there London? I'm happy for a longer ride from station to start if it means more regular / faster trains. (No, I won't be ECE-ing.)Didcot seems the best bet. There may be slightly more trains to Reading,
Post by: phil d on 02 November, 2016, 05:37:39 pm
0528 from Paddington gets in at 0639. Look for trains to Oxford, but note that not all Oxford trains stop at Cholsey.
0537 from Paddington at 0714.
The 0550 and 0557 trains from Paddington will both enable transfer to the latter local train at Reading. The 0550 also stops at Didcot, at 0637, if you prefer to stay aboard. This leaves plenty of time for the 8.5km ride over to Cholsey. Later trains to Didcot offer no advantage over the Cholsey trains.
It's about 1km from Cholsey station to the start.
Trains back to Paddington from Cholsey every 30 minutes until fairly late.
Post by: simonp on 02 November, 2016, 05:47:41 pm
Apparently there is discretion available to the guards, despite the policy, but I'd be wary of relying on being able to board without a reservation.
Post by: mattc on 02 November, 2016, 06:06:23 pm
... but I'd be wary of relying on being able to board without a reservation.
Agreed.
But two points in favour of "train reservation audacity/recklessness":
- lots of trains that stop at CHolsey will be reservation-exempt (cos sliding doors). The online timetable thingies can tell you this, if you look hard!
- GWR _seem_ to have relaxed the policy for weekend travel. But this doesn't seem to be very official, so "wary" is still the best approach on the HSTs!
Post by: Whitedown Man on 02 November, 2016, 06:07:44 pm
Post by: Manotea on 02 November, 2016, 08:06:16 pm
Cholsey has a station.
0528 from Paddington gets in at 0639.
Looks like I'll be on this, but boarding at Ealing Broadway, 05:36
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 02 November, 2016, 09:56:27 pm
Did someone mention cake....? ;DI'll buy you some if you drag me around like on the HoE. I've just entered, my last non-commute ride being the Buzzard on 9th July; that's discounting the solo "clubrun" to Woodstock ;D. I might need a liitle help...
Post by: zigzag on 02 November, 2016, 10:22:43 pm
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 02 November, 2016, 10:27:54 pm
i've never done this ride before, and will enter once i accept the fact of getting out of bed at 3:30am..I love this ride, but getting out of bed at 3:30am is a bit harsh.
BB
Post by: Manotea on 03 November, 2016, 05:32:49 am
i've never done this ride before, and will enter once i accept the fact of getting out of bed at 3:30am..I love this ride, but getting out of bed at 3:30am is a bit harsh.
BB
I'll be having a lie-in, not stirring till 4:30...
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 03 November, 2016, 12:58:15 pm
Post by: simonp on 03 November, 2016, 01:02:58 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 03 November, 2016, 08:25:56 pm
Sorry :facepalm:
Post by: simonp on 03 November, 2016, 10:11:17 pm
Post by: Manotea on 05 November, 2016, 11:38:43 pm
Usual thanks to PhilD and team for this long running and very succesful event.
PS, my legs hurt, but in a good way. Can't think why....
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 06 November, 2016, 08:04:30 am
BB
Post by: andyoxon on 06 November, 2016, 08:53:52 am
Post by: zigzag on 06 November, 2016, 09:42:26 am
https://vimeo.com/190427285 (https://vimeo.com/190427285)
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 06 November, 2016, 09:42:41 am
Zigzag wasn't hanging about, despite being on his hybrid bike, so by the time we'd got to the top of that sharp climb by Well Place there were just four of us, winding through the delectable Chiltern lanes. Soon that was three as we ground our way up long but never steep hills to Christmas Common and into the wind. However, with three pairs of legs to take turns on the front, we were soon at Waterperry. I could see that Zigzag was itching to carry on so wolfed down a pastry and tea at high speed and we set out as a pair to tackle the hills around Brill (which are not part of the chalk Chilterns or the Jurassic Cotswolds - http://www.bucksgeology.org.uk/brill.html). By now I was starting to feel the climbs in my legs, and thought I'd have to let Zigzag go on. But we kept turn and turn about into the wind, which was hardest through Bicester. However, after Bucknell, we turned to the west and the wind was more of a crosswind than a headwind and there was a fair amount of shelter from the trees, all in full autumn colour. So we made Chipping Norton in good time. I quite fancied a good stop with an omelette but Zigzag was all for continuing.
A couple of cakes and a mug of tea were defeated in under ten minutes and we were off, mostly into a blissful tailwind, except for a section around Leafield where the road seemed to go perpetually up hill. Then we were doing silly speeds through Brize Norton, eating up the miles. Just after the info control Will caught us up; he must have really been tanking along and he and Zigzag soon set a pace well in excess of R1, so let them go, and enjoyed the afternoon sunshine back to the finish, losing a few minutes in Aston Upthorpe by taking a brain-faded wrong turn.
An indecently good day out for November, capped off by Mary's excellent celery and cucumber soup. Thanks to Phil D and the team for such a good event.
Post by: Von Broad on 06 November, 2016, 09:51:40 am
Plenty of fireworks out there, was that the first 5thNov UT for a while?
And the red Kites are getting interesting in their pressence these days.
Thanks once again to Phil, Mary and helpers.
Post by: mattc on 06 November, 2016, 09:56:34 am
... and we set out as a pair to tackle the hills around Brill (which are not part of the chalk Chilterns or the Jurassic Cotswolds - http://www.bucksgeology.org.uk/brill.html).Well, you learn something every year!
:thumbsup:
Post by: alfapete on 06 November, 2016, 09:59:29 am
The good bit was the change of direction for the final 70km - and the long descents followed by copious amounts of flat, wind assisted. Without that I'm not sure I'd have finished in time.
Many thanks to Phil and Mary and team
Post by: Von Broad on 06 November, 2016, 10:05:29 am
... and we set out as a pair to tackle the hills around Brill (which are not part of the chalk Chilterns or the Jurassic Cotswolds - http://www.bucksgeology.org.uk/brill.html).Well, you learn something every year!
:thumbsup:
Home of the Vale Brewery too [close observers will have noticed a sign just outside Brill]. The ride also passed the XT Brewery outside Long Crendon [not visible from the road]...and was a stones throw from the Hook Norton Brewery in...Hook Norton. Mind you, can't be many rides that don't pass some kind of brewery these days.
Post by: dave d on 06 November, 2016, 10:08:38 am
Plenty of fireworks out there, was that the first 5thNov UT for a while?
It was the 1st 5th Nov UT for exactly 5 years. I know that as when I got to the Arrivee, Facebook popped up with 'would you like to share a memory of 5 years ago? - my first 200km ride.
UT always seems to be split between the three sections of familiar lanes near home/a big drag into a headwind/pleasant ride home, but the drag seemed even worse this time.
Great ride though as always - many thanks to all the organisers.
Post by: phil d on 06 November, 2016, 12:14:13 pm
Preliminary accounts show a surplus of about £440 going to Thames Valley Air Ambulance. A massive £177 was donated at the end, the rest being surplus on entries. This might seem a lot, but is entirely down to the enormous entry list. I have to budget for a more "normal" entry number, just in case. In any case, I am very happy to support the Air Ambulance.
See lots of you on November 4th next year, if not at other local events that I'm involved with.
Phil
Post by: simonp on 06 November, 2016, 02:31:36 pm
I started late and then had speed/cadence sensor issues so was probably 15 minutes delayed overall. There were people behind me nonetheless as they came past.
At Waterperry I decided to save time by having a double espresso and no food; I did the same at CN but ran out of energy bars with about 30km to the finish. It was an easy run in so no issues.
I added up the food intake for the day: 3x bottles with Torq Energy, 8x Torq bars and a serving of Huel for breakfast. That comes to under 2000kcals and the ride burns about 5000. Hopefully I'm still burning fat reasonably well then.
It was good to see a bunch of familiar faces and some new ones. Thanks to Phil and his team.
Post by: Whitedown Man on 06 November, 2016, 03:16:23 pm
First time I've ridden the UT - it really is a gem. Don't think there's a more picturesque ride in the south-east (does Oxon count as the SE?), the controls are excellent and well-spaced, Phil D's organisation was top notch, and his helpers all deserve gold medals.
Good to see some familiar faces too, especially the newly-skinny Manotea and the has-always-been-skinny Ebbson.
Post by: LiamFitz on 06 November, 2016, 03:25:59 pm
It's my first decent ride this year really as I had a spot of cardiac replumbing in April and its taken a while to build up basic stamina and get over the aches and pains that come when they mess around with your rib cage.
I'm glad to say that I saw what I had been missing. On the run up to Christmas Common the headwind wasn't too much of an issue and the hills seemed kinder than I remembered them. And this year the colours were stunning! I rode with some friendly folks including Manotea and His Broadship.
The wind kicked in after the drop off the ridge but I soon found myself in company for some turn and turn about that rushed us up to Waterperry. Sadly shortly afterwards I got smashed with the worst cramp I've had in years - I had forgotten my drill for keeping it at bay. Then at Bicester my right cleat decided it was time to pack up!
I limped on to Chippy contemplating a DNF... but with help from our friendly controller found the bike shop. Never have I been so happy to hand over so much cash for a crappy bit of moulded plastic and a tube of SIS Tablets.
From then on it was a dream ride! The tailwind was still decent enough to push me down the never-ending descents, my residual cramp faded away with the help of the electrolyte tablets and the dusk provided sensational views over open golden valleys and autumnal hills. I even started to feel a bit warmer. The smell of woodsmoke was everywhere.
And then, best of all, as night fully settled in I was treated to some of the best fireworks I have seen in years... whenever the ride opened up on a bit of upland I could see rockets and all sorts in every direction. In the past I've probably ridden too quickly to get the full benefit of other people's pyrotechnics.
Back at the Arrivee the magnificent catering was as impressive as ever.
One reflection... is it me or are we starting to attract a different demographic? There were noticibly more people under 40 and many more women than I have seen for a while (including a gang who seemed to be singing when I met them at Chippy). There were also more club groups out as well from what I could see. Or have I just been off the bike too long?
Post by: Lady Cavendish on 07 November, 2016, 03:14:58 pm
I forget what a good Autumn route this is, it really is pretty. That first 140k was pretty tough for sure, I do t like being cold, but the last 50 miles (which are really really nice anyway) was even better with the tailwind!
I nearly didn't ride this because I've been a bit ill over the last fortnight, but very pleased I did :) Back next year.
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 07 November, 2016, 08:04:15 pm
The ride was pretty uneventful, except for witnessing Bianchi Boy's spoke/rim separation. My fear was that a cycling season devoted mostly to kayaking would find my fitness wanting. As it turned out I was only 7 mins slower than my previous slowest solo time. It's the other aspects of long distance cycling "fitness" which appear to be affected most by the lack of hours in the saddle - my backside, shoulders, and the soles of my feet felt a bit battered after the ride. None of this detracted from my enjoyment, especially the wonderful tailwind from Brize Norton onwards.
Thanks to Phil, Mary, and helpers for another excellent event. A particular call-out for the Old Mill in Chippy; the food was flying out of the kitchen. I've not seen a cafe cope so well with such a large number of hungry cyclists.
Post by: De Sisti on 07 November, 2016, 08:22:29 pm
by the start of previous events), cramp, the punishing headwind, puncture at 171 km (just before the L turn to Buckland)
which took ages to fix and a dodgy helmet light. Nearly 2 hours slower than my previous attempt in 2014. Barring
injuries* I'll probably be back next year**. Nice one Phil, Mary, helper at Chipping Campden and Brian Mann.
*(2015)
** Depends on how I'm getting on with the music
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 07 November, 2016, 09:53:19 pm
I have a very expensive rain jacket to counter your jinx.
The jinx (dare I say it) is broken. Not a drop of rain on me on the whole event. Phil D v Thor anyone?
Post by: phil d on 08 November, 2016, 08:59:59 am
I have a very expensive rain jacket to counter your jinx.
The jinx (dare I say it) is broken. Not a drop of rain on me on the whole event. Phil D v Thor anyone?
I'm sure it was SimonP's expensive (and a very fetching shade of orange it was, too!) rain jacket that tipped the balance rather than my refusing to dance to the rain god.
Post by: simonp on 08 November, 2016, 10:03:14 am
I have a very expensive rain jacket to counter your jinx.
The jinx (dare I say it) is broken. Not a drop of rain on me on the whole event. Phil D v Thor anyone?
I'm sure it was SimonP's expensive (and a very fetching shade of orange it was, too!) rain jacket that tipped the balance rather than my refusing to dance to the rain god.
That was my jersey. Rain jacket stayed in my bag all day. A worthwhile investment, it seems.
Post by: Folly on 11 November, 2016, 10:38:22 am
Didn't try to rush round too quickly this year either, so spent a lot more time riding in a group for once. Thanks to everyone who I chatted to along the way :)
Post by: phil d on 22 September, 2017, 05:44:36 pm
Sat 4th November this year. There should be the usual fireworks. And, I fear, the usual headwind Bicester - Chipping Norton.
For anyone not familiar with this event, its a pleasant autumn ride through the Chilterns and Cotswolds (but nevertheless has less than 2000m of climbing), using commercial cafes at Waterperry and Chipping Norton, and hot food at the end. Starts and finishes at Cholsey, which has a station on the Paddington - Reading - Oxford line for those preferring not to drive.
Usually has a large field, so plenty of company whatever your pace.
Post by: Lycra Man on 24 September, 2017, 12:11:06 am
I hope I can get round within the limit, as I have lost a lot of speed and stamna.
Can I book a tail wind for all the way round?
Lycra Man
Post by: phil d on 24 October, 2017, 09:50:10 am
SteveR of this parish usually acts as the controller at Chipping Norton on this event, but can't make it this year. Does anyone here fancy an afternoon in the cafe there, chatting to the riders as they come through? If so, please PM me. I shall make arrangements for a stamp or stickers to be available if a "real" controller is not in place.
Phil
Post by: alfapete on 24 October, 2017, 10:16:15 am
I shall make arrangements for a stamp or stickers to be available if a "real" controller is not in place.
The cafe owner offered to stamp my card on Sunday despite me being on a DIY by GPS. When I declined he insisted on pressing the receipt into my hand in case I needed it! - He knows his rules and regs.... and is an all round cheerful chap. :thumbsup:
Sorry can't offer to control for you here, Phil - it's a busy weekend for us. I started my RRTY with this event last year and finished it on Sunday (see RRTY thread for the tale...)
Post by: phil d on 24 October, 2017, 11:34:14 am
Yes Sela is great (I gather he was a competitive cyclist himself in the past, and several AUK events use Old Mill). But with up to 100 Upper Thames riders passing through, some at lunchtime, he's likely to be busy, and some will eat elsewhere. In those circumstances I'm anxious to make it as easy on him and his staff as I can, and not rely on them stamping cards.
But it looks as if I have a volunteer, so all should be well.
Post by: Bobby on 30 October, 2017, 03:52:37 pm
No long rides for a couple of months,
Not much riding at all for a couple of months,
It'll be slow & steady for me & a drive to the start rather than an ECE that I've done the last few times...
I always enjoy the fireworks & the weather that tries to blow you off the road on the final climb into Cholesy :)
Post by: toontra on 30 October, 2017, 03:55:33 pm
I always enjoy the fireworks & the weather that tries to blow you off the road on the final climb into Cholesy :)
Forecast reassuringly benign at the moment!
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 30 October, 2017, 04:28:35 pm
Post by: simonp on 30 October, 2017, 07:07:14 pm
Considering whether November is the right time to ECE to 300km.
I've done this in February before. It was cold.
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 31 October, 2017, 12:26:43 pm
(feeling lazy O:-))
Post by: mattc on 31 October, 2017, 12:29:59 pm
Is the track the same as last year?Nope.
(feeling lazy O:-))
I believe there are roadworks around Stanford on the last leg. Doesn't sound like a major change.
Post by: andyoxon on 31 October, 2017, 01:26:23 pm
Post by: drgannet on 31 October, 2017, 03:49:49 pm
Might be a damp start, as 2015 IIRC. Still, adds to the atmosphere of the autumnal Chilterns. ;)
I hope not - that was torrential over the Chilterns!
Post by: andyoxon on 31 October, 2017, 04:07:53 pm
Post by: phil d on 31 October, 2017, 05:47:10 pm
If you haven't looked lately (like Steve!) there is an alteration to the route around Stanford in the Vale due to a road closure. Full details (new routesheet, gpx file) are at www.thamesvalleyaudax.co.uk The route is 3km shorter (so 209).
Apologies to all entrants who got a duplicate entry acknowledgement from me earlier today - I had amended the response wording, and in testing it sent it to everyone rather than the most recent entry.
Currently 100 entered. On-line entries close midnight Thursday. On the line entries are permitted, but cost £10 regardless of AUK or CTC membership
Post by: toontra on 01 November, 2017, 06:48:45 pm
Forecast reassuringly benign at the moment!
That will teach me not to look at medium-term forecasts! Now showing as the only day with significant rain in few otherwise dry weeks.
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 02 November, 2017, 08:41:50 am
Post by: mattc on 02 November, 2017, 10:49:12 am
(rises at 17:12, so the later riders will get the most benefit. It's been beautiful the last couple of evenings, at last-leg-of-a-200k-O'clock. Anyone that mentions rain-clouds blocking out the moon can go and sit in the Christmas Grinch humbug corner.)
Post by: Bagman on 02 November, 2017, 08:34:15 pm
Post by: PAC on 04 November, 2017, 02:30:43 pm
Still, it was good to catch up and ride with Blueskies until just after Wormingshall :thumbsup:
Cheers,
Peter.
Post by: Jaded on 04 November, 2017, 04:24:31 pm
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 04 November, 2017, 05:57:02 pm
Chapeau to all those who started. Thanks to Phil, Mary, and helpers for the organisation. I'm sorry I let you down.
Post by: vanellus on 04 November, 2017, 06:08:12 pm
In the past I've just taken the front wheel off the bike and stuck it inside the car. As my new(er) car appeared bigger inside I made the assumption the bike would just fit. The stupidity of this eventually sank in at 4:30 am this morning after about 45 minutes of futile wrestling in a downpour with a semi-dismantled bike. :facepalm: I suppose I could have taken it more to bits but didn't really feel up to reassembling it in the rain or starting a 200k late and plastered with chain grease. Sorry Phil.
I would be very interested in riding this as a DIY soon (with better preparation), it looks a lovely route.
Post by: toontra on 04 November, 2017, 07:59:34 pm
Can't say the wind westward was too much of a problem but the second batch of rain towards Chipping Norton had me grumbling. The last 30 miles was a breeze.
As usual, fantastic organisation & hosting at the start/end control. Thanks Phil & team - lovely food!
Post by: TigaSefi on 04 November, 2017, 10:09:42 pm
Moron motorised driver of the day belongs to this special lady that somehow decided that the two cyclists cycling up a hill on a very narrow twisty full of blind bends hill was the perfect place to initiate a overtaking maneuver! I was descending. Her car moved into her right hand side of the lane fully. I was like "WTAF are you doing???" I had nano seconds to think. I swerved to my right. Noooo the driver has now cut up the cyclists going up the hill and is now in front me again. Fuck sake... ok brakes are now on full, controlled sliding, foot unclipped, side impact onto the bonnet cos let's face it. its better than being underneath. I laid sprawled across the bonnet like a model! "Am i ok?" I thought. one of the said cyclists helped me up. no broken bones, no ripped clothes or bloody arms/face. no broken bike. Crikey! swapped details and completed my ride. Thus completing my RRTY number 2.
I am lucky. I know that much.
Post by: gustibus on 04 November, 2017, 11:57:41 pm
.................I laid sprawled across the bonnet like a model! "Am i ok?" I thought. one of the said cyclists helped me up. no broken bones, no ripped clothes or bloody arms/face. no broken bike. Crikey! swapped details and completed my ride. Thus completing my RRTY number 2.
I am lucky. I know that much.
:thumbsup:
Glad you are in one piece - well done on finishing after that!
Must be worth an extra point at least :)
Post by: mattc on 05 November, 2017, 08:44:25 am
...;D
I laid sprawled across the bonnet like a model!
...
Very glad to still have you with us.
(and the positive side is that I have matched another YACF name to an audax face. You should be easy to remember after yesterday!)
Post by: whosatthewheel on 05 November, 2017, 10:24:38 am
Today was a miracle. Literally. Let me get the boring stuff out first. My car was aqua planing all over the place this am. What's my bike gonna gonna do I thought! Standing water everywhere! Even hit one at 20 mph! Drenched. Only one puncture. Some rollickin good views and the full yellow moon rising was just beautiful!
Moron motorised driver of the day belongs to this special lady that somehow decided that the two cyclists cycling up a hill on a very narrow twisty full of blind bends hill was the perfect place to initiate a overtaking maneuver! I was descending. Her car moved into her right hand side of the lane fully. I was like "WTAF are you doing???" I had nano seconds to think. I swerved to my right. Noooo the driver has now cut up the cyclists going up the hill and is now in front me again. Fuck sake... ok brakes are now on full, controlled sliding, foot unclipped, side impact onto the bonnet cos let's face it. its better than being underneath. I laid sprawled across the bonnet like a model! "Am i ok?" I thought. one of the said cyclists helped me up. no broken bones, no ripped clothes or bloody arms/face. no broken bike. Crikey! swapped details and completed my ride. Thus completing my RRTY number 2.
I am lucky. I know that much.
I hope you took details of the other cyclists as witnesses. Without witnesses, she could in principle make a claim against you
Post by: TigaSefi on 05 November, 2017, 10:25:34 am
Post by: Jethro on 05 November, 2017, 10:30:42 am
Post by: Kev Sp8 on 05 November, 2017, 12:30:28 pm
I had a bit of an epic ride also. Got my third puncture on arrival at the first info control, already right at the back of the field. Diverted to Henley Cycles for extra tubes (where another rider had left his bike after a total failure of his rear wheel - hope all was okay) and came very very close to giving in to the temptation to jump on a train.
Back on route, negotiating one of the flooded sections, when a 4 x 4 driver coming the opposite way took exception to the fact that I was carefully picking my way, closer to the middle of the road and hurled a load of abuse my way. I should have bitten my tongue, but did respond (not disproportionately I may add) and then had to put in a bit of an uphill sprint as he dismounted his vehicle to 'discuss the matter further!'
Hammered it to Waterperry where I started to catch a few riders, bolted down an excellent plate of egg and beans on toast, then back on the gas until I totally bonked at Chipping Norton. So bad did I feel that I couldn't even manage the last half mile into the town, instead controlling at the garage on the roundabout and eating £12 worth of crap. (Turns out that chicken wraps, chocolate, chocolate milk and red bull DO mix!)
Suitable refreshed, morale soared and I positively flew over the lovely rolling terrain of the Cotswolds and thoroughly enjoyed the fast miles between Brize Norton (my old stomping ground - served nearly 10 years there) and the arrivee. So much so that I upped my overall average speed from 11mph (to Chipping Norton) to 15.5mph by the end. Great display of the full moon and fireworks riding back to Didcot for the 7.18pm train home.
Huge satisfaction at having finished despite the conditions and problems en route. Thats why I love Audax!
Post by: Whippet on 05 November, 2017, 03:55:38 pm
Post by: Kim on 05 November, 2017, 03:57:49 pm
Two witnesses and their phone numbers.
They don't count though, because they were on bikes, so are obviously not impartial...
Post by: TigaSefi on 05 November, 2017, 04:02:04 pm
Post by: Jaded on 05 November, 2017, 04:19:19 pm
the battery on my new Garmin 820 died.
The fun over the charging port didn't help!!
Post by: whosatthewheel on 05 November, 2017, 04:51:05 pm
They don't count though, because they were on bikes, so are obviously not impartial...
nonsense...
Post by: Whippet on 05 November, 2017, 05:03:55 pm
the battery on my new Garmin 820 died.
The fun over the charging port didn't help!!
But quite funny looking back on it.
Post by: Bagman on 05 November, 2017, 06:24:41 pm
Great route, mixture of weather, good controls, friendly riders who provide help when you need it, refreshments at the beginning and the end.
Looking forward to my next one which will be my 27th month in a row - they are addictive
Post by: Lycra Man on 05 November, 2017, 07:12:19 pm
I made it to Waterperry, bumping (mataphorically) into Phil D just outside Wheatley.
Remaining gear selection problems and diappeatring stamina meant that I decided to quit at Ashendon, a mere 5 miles from home. I probaly could gave completed the ride without the delays, although after 4 years away, I am still trying to rebuild strength.
Lycra Man
Post by: RobD62 on 06 November, 2017, 02:54:38 pm
I thought that the puncture fairy had paid an early visit when wheeling my bike out of the station I discovered a sort back tyre. Whacking some wind into it we had a soggy 5.5 mile ride to the depart at Cholsey. I wielded the pump at the rear tyre again, not knowing if it had softened or not, before the off. Riding myself in at my own pace I found myself constantly with others and paired up the Whippet (Kevin No 2). As his handle suggests, he was a little more nifty up the rises than me (I have always done a fine impression of a geriatric snail up the ups) but on the whole our pace was compatible, especially on a dead bit of road into the wind where through and off worked for us.
Waterperry came at the right time for me I was getting hungry and that back tyre was due for a little more air…and the rain eased off!!! :)
The first bit out of Bicester towards Chipping Norton was a bit of a struggle with showers. I thinking I was missing Whippet’s company who had stopped in Bicester to see to a puncture (Nice man had insisted I go on and not get cold).
The old Mill Café at certainly had good food hand hot drinks with card stamping professionally completed by Jadded. – A bit more air into the tyre (whether it needed it or not!) and off into the final leg of clear skies, beautiful sunset and moon with fireworks and encouragement from Whippet when, in the final kilometres my energy waned…Thank you.
Thank you, also, to Phil D and team for an excellent event.
Foot note: Having reset my Garmin for the ride back to Didcot Parkway a big smile came across my face as I retrieved my bike from the guards van at Chippenham, the light was on, and the max speed recorded… 126.94mph!!!
Oh, and the rear tyre, still inflated yesterday morning…so what was that all about!
Post by: mattc on 06 November, 2017, 06:55:13 pm
I guess the tendency to never take photos in bad weather was too strong!
Post by: R_nger on 06 November, 2017, 11:17:59 pm
Did noone get any flood pictures??
I guess the tendency to never take photos in bad weather was too strong!
Best I can do is https://photos.app.goo.gl/BPwAhbT8ZjTz01Bx2 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/BPwAhbT8ZjTz01Bx2). Taken near Sonning Common - I think there were a couple of slightly more challenging puddles on the last stretch to Dunsden Green.
Post by: phil d on 07 November, 2017, 09:14:12 am
Did noone get any flood pictures??
I guess the tendency to never take photos in bad weather was too strong!
Best I can do is https://photos.app.goo.gl/BPwAhbT8ZjTz01Bx2 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/BPwAhbT8ZjTz01Bx2). Taken near Sonning Common - I think there were a couple of slightly more challenging puddles on the last stretch to Dunsden Green.
Good job this wasn't a "compulsory route" event, since you were off-route when this was taken! The gate on the left of that picture is the Kidmore End War Memorial Hall (confusingly in Sonning Common) where the Upper Thames used to start/finish (2004 to about 2008) and the Henley Hilly Hundred still does happen.
Post by: phil d on 07 November, 2017, 09:23:45 am
Well done to everyone who finished. Most had a smile on their face at the end.
As usual my thanks to all those who helped me stage this event - Mary for planning the food, Barbara Uttley for her help in preparing and serving the food, Liam FitzPatrick for checking the route, Jonathan Duckworth for manning the Chippy control, Brian Perry for overseeing the car park, Mick Simmons for help at the arrivee, and in the kitchen, and Brian Mann and Andy Uttley for pitching in after riding and helping us to clear the hall at the end.
I have sent £216 to the Thames Valley Air Ambulance, that being the surplus on the event plus donations on the day. Thank you all.
November 3rd next year. The 15th version. Trevor Wale has ridden them all so far.
Post by: Marmitegeoff on 07 November, 2017, 01:07:59 pm
I would be very interested in riding this as a DIY soon (with better preparation), it looks a lovely route.
It is a route I love, I was not fit enough this year, but it would be very different without the leaves on the roads and no fireworks. but still a cracking route.
Post by: Whippet on 13 November, 2017, 07:59:17 am
Post by: phil d on 09 September, 2018, 05:19:00 pm
Plenty of comment upthread about the event, (mostly positive!). I see the last but one was from Geoff C, sadly no longer with us. He used to be a regular, though not as regular as Trevor Wale, who as I note above has done them all so far.
Post by: simonp on 09 September, 2018, 06:00:32 pm
Post by: De Sisti on 09 September, 2018, 06:54:25 pm
practice/rehearsals permitting).
Post by: Manotea on 09 September, 2018, 07:16:29 pm
See you in November, Phil!
Post by: LiamFitz on 09 September, 2018, 08:56:07 pm
Liam
Post by: De Sisti on 10 September, 2018, 05:36:22 am
The section from Waterperry around to Chippy is alwaysFTFYawesomedifficult in the late autumn (especially if there's a headwind).
Liam
Post by: Somnolent on 10 September, 2018, 10:24:15 pm
Post by: phil d on 17 October, 2018, 09:07:12 am
90 entries as I type. Still room for a few more.
Post by: Martin on 18 October, 2018, 08:37:57 pm
Post by: simonp on 19 October, 2018, 12:37:45 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 20 October, 2018, 07:52:01 pm
Post by: Simon_A on 24 October, 2018, 02:50:38 pm
Hoping the weather will be good so can ride to the start from home - which has been an ambition for few years. The autumn colours are early this year, but should still be around for what's always been a very pretty ride.CET - I've PM'd you re. riding to the start.
Post by: LiamFitz on 02 November, 2018, 11:55:42 am
Post by: Neil C on 02 November, 2018, 01:15:32 pm
Post by: simonp on 02 November, 2018, 01:27:05 pm
Weather forecast looks very tolerable for November. Staying at the Milton Premier Inn.
Post by: LiamFitz on 02 November, 2018, 01:40:16 pm
I'll be there too. Please wait for me in Chippy, Liam. Your help across The New Forest in September was much appreciated!
Looking forward to seeing you... perhaps we can get a decent train going! I see there may be some hills you can drag me up
Post by: LiamFitz on 02 November, 2018, 01:41:14 pm
Staying at the Milton Premier Inn.
Is that the new name for Le Manoir...?
Post by: simonp on 02 November, 2018, 01:50:03 pm
Staying at the Milton Premier Inn.
Is that the new name for Le Manoir...?
Bit posh for an Audax innit.
Post by: Huff n Puff on 02 November, 2018, 02:02:44 pm
Post by: JonBuoy on 02 November, 2018, 02:12:13 pm
Post by: andyoxon on 02 November, 2018, 02:57:24 pm
Staying at the Milton Premier Inn.
Is that the new name for Le Manoir...?
Bit posh for an Audax innit.
...whose full name is: The Almost Didcot, Milton interchange - Premier inn ;)
Post by: LiamFitz on 02 November, 2018, 03:14:47 pm
...looking forward to another trip up the Upper.
Another potential member of the train!!!
Post by: simonp on 02 November, 2018, 08:59:42 pm
DNS for me. No bleed kit here.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 02 November, 2018, 09:03:52 pm
Post by: JonBuoy on 03 November, 2018, 08:51:14 pm
Post by: Manotea on 03 November, 2018, 10:48:30 pm
Good to be out ... a bit nippy and windy on the return but working so hard didn't really notice.
Thanks to all involved with the event'.
Post by: Von Broad on 04 November, 2018, 12:09:50 pm
Yesterday was the first 200 in two years and boy, I really had my doubts in the first section - sober confirmation that there is serious work to be done if I have intentions of going to France next year.
Mate of mine did his first 200 yesterday, and I think he was stronger than me over the day, so chapeau to him.
Many thanks once again to Phil, Mary and the team for being there.
Post by: LiamFitz on 04 November, 2018, 12:59:50 pm
The rising wind in the first 60k was mostly a benefit but occasionally turning into it (e.g the short run down Waterperry Lane) was quite menacing. However, riding with a selection of groups took the sting out of it.
The cafe in Chipping played a blinder. I turned up with the bulge and the place was rammed but they still managed to get food in front of people really quickly.
The section south from there wasn't half as bad feared - riding with Keith and Neil allowed a bit of shelter. And the scenery from here is utterly stunning as the late autumn sun set. And with 20k to go, we were swept up by the ACH train which was very welcome. The only niggle is that we arrived back earlier than usual which meant that the full firework display hadn't kicked off properly!
This really is one of my favourite rides - Phil and Mary really have it taped now (especially with the hot food at the Arrivee). If the rain stays away you get some of the most amazing country in the full range of yellow, copper and brown tones.
Post by: Whippet on 04 November, 2018, 01:15:03 pm
Post by: andyoxon on 04 November, 2018, 02:03:23 pm
Post by: grams on 04 November, 2018, 02:30:33 pm
I struggled a lot on the middle section between Bicester and Chipping Norton and was convinced I'd be out of time - I was barely averaging 13 km/h and expecting the wind to get worse. But slowly the wind relented and I made it in 3rd last.
Thanks to the organisers, and Manotea and Martin for saving me from dead last.
Post by: phil d on 04 November, 2018, 03:51:01 pm
Well done to everyone that finished - 98 out of 104 starters.
As ever the event relies on the help I get. Particularly Mary, of course, and also Jim, Matt and Brian who gave unstinting assistance at the arrivee. And thanks to everyone for supporting the event. As usual, the surplus (including the donation bowls) goes to the Thames Valley and Chiltern Air Ambulance. I have just sent them £350.
See you on November 2nd 2019 - it should be visible in the calendar soon.
Phil
Post by: halhorner on 04 November, 2018, 04:37:51 pm
Post by: David27 on 04 November, 2018, 06:11:08 pm
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 04 November, 2018, 06:22:15 pm
The trike rolled around ok, though I probably should have had something to eat rather than running on fumes for the last hour into Chipping Norton. The wind was a bit of a slog but a geared trike is a bit easier than my usual fixed bike. The recently resurfaced roads were a nice change - more of that please!
Post by: Nutbeem on 04 November, 2018, 06:42:43 pm
I collected one of Phil's Bananas at Waterperry then carried it in my jersey pocket for 100Km & questioned why I'd picked it up.
20Km from Arivee I ran out of energy, legs were empty and wheelman Micky was having to back off for me to keep up.
We stopped and had 10 minutes sit down on a bench in East Hagbourne & I had the best banana I've every tasted in my life :) The effect was amazing, I left Micky behind on the final hill, which might have been a bit unkind since he towed me for the previous 10Km!
Thanks to Phil & Team for a great day out.
Post by: andyoxon on 04 November, 2018, 07:47:11 pm
Another fun ride (no rain always helps in that regard). Thanks to the organising team, a well-sorted event and route.
The trike rolled around ok, though I probably should have had something to eat rather than running on fumes for the last hour into Chipping Norton. The wind was a bit of a slog but a geared trike are a bit easier than my usual fixed bike in that regard. The recently resurfaced roads were a nice change - more of that please!
and in a green jersey? Don't know how many trike-riders there were...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4849/45719353841_a888cf848f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cE4D4p)UT200-towards Christmas common (https://flic.kr/p/2cE4D4p) by ao (https://www.flickr.com/photos/25983110@N05/), on Flickr
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 04 November, 2018, 08:14:42 pm
There was a damp, leafy steep climb where the one-wheel drive slipped slightly during most pedal strokes and the front wheel kept wanting to skip right. More skilled trikies have no problems finessing their way up tricky slopes. I tend to believe in the power of swear instead.
Post by: Martin on 04 November, 2018, 08:31:50 pm
Disaster has struck and I have no working rear brake.
I had no working front brake after 10k thanks to an unscheduled road interface which rendered my left hand fairly useless plus various other extremities; In true Upper Thames style I carried on and was I glad?
fantastic ride as always, full value with 4 min on the clock at the Arrivee, one advantage was I saw lots more fireworks than usual!
lots of kites plus a couple of fallow deer
Didn't quite manage to get stuck between the red lights under the flightpath of a landing Hercules at Brize Norton like 2012 but saw one storming overhead just after.
Thanks Phil Mary Brian and Steve!
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 04 November, 2018, 09:05:46 pm
Post by: Martin on 04 November, 2018, 09:14:38 pm
An A400 landed just before I rode past the end of the Brize Norton runway, according to the enthusiast standing there with his partner. The A400 is like a Hercules but bigger.
yes it might have an A400; big and noisy with propellors. I think a jet landed just before (the wind from the South was so strong couldn't hear the engines)
Post by: Bobby on 05 November, 2018, 07:34:58 am
I talked a mate into coming along for his first Audax, then on Friday he admitted it would be his first imperial ton as well... slow and steady I deliberately let the bulge disappear and once we hit the quiet place climb we dropped back a bit more. He was nervous but we kept it steady, i made sure he fed well at waterperry and reassured him we had loads of time in hand. Onwards to chippy we stopped at the 3rd info & chatter to some others, one kind chap dished out jelly babies & we pushed on. My mate amazed by how friendly everybody was :thumbsup: he’s only done sportive rides and explains how lonely they can be.
Another long stop at chippy for a good fuelling, jelly baby man advised a Cruze back with sugary drinks from spar shops :). So off we set into the wind. I told him just to wheelsuck - and boy he did :) we ticked past 100 miles & had a little celebration (mars milkshake from a spar shop)
He hit ‘that pothole ‘ coming into Steventon , pinch flat on the rear. Boy, that was a bastard to fix! He had new wire bead tyres that were SO tight we actually lost 1 hour changing it, then realise if he’d pinched the tube, changing it again etc... I fed him whilst we worked and reassured that we had time in hand.
Eventually on the road again we rode next to eachother all the way back. He was knackered, but seemed to enjoy it. Just over 13hrs is my second slowest ever 200, but who cares it was great :thumbsup:
So thanks to jellybaby man, sorry I didn’t get your name - I hope you’ve helped hook another into the madness ::-)
@phil i’ll Be in touch RE that gps, sorry it slipped my mind st the end.
See you all next year :)
Post by: Whippet on 05 November, 2018, 08:11:50 am
Post by: Bobby on 05 November, 2018, 08:43:00 am
Bobby, was that you on the vintage Peugeot? If so, I was the bloke on the red and white Mercian.
Not guilty - I was on a Ti equilibrium & my mate was on a ribble in stealth black with fancy (loud!) SRAM red wireless etap gears
Post by: Brakeless on 05 November, 2018, 03:17:32 pm
Post by: Von Broad on 05 November, 2018, 08:54:33 pm
Bobby, was that you on the vintage Peugeot? If so, I was the bloke on the red and white Mercian.
Over here for Peugeot man, Whippet. Hey, what's with all the 'vintage' stuff btw? your bike's almost as old as mine, but much nicer to look at :-)
Good to catch up.
Post by: Whippet on 06 November, 2018, 08:17:56 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 13 November, 2018, 08:23:14 pm
Post by: phil d on 26 November, 2018, 04:53:54 pm
Thanks to everyone that posted comments about the event. It's always gratifying to know people appreciate the effort. Actually, we know you do, because you keep coming back!
Post by: phil d on 27 September, 2019, 09:16:35 am
Anyone willing to commit to arriving early and helping at the start would be welcome. Don't need many.
I still have a GPS head left behind last time. No-one claimed it, which I find surprising! It must be worth a few bob.
Phil
Post by: simonp on 21 October, 2019, 05:28:49 pm
So now to decide if I want to drive for 2h or look for accommodation.
Post by: bludger on 21 October, 2019, 10:51:58 pm
Post by: Jaded on 21 October, 2019, 11:21:01 pm
Didcot
Post by: phil d on 24 October, 2019, 04:59:53 pm
If I do need to re-route, details of revised routesheet plus gps file will be on the thamesvalleyaudax website by Monday evening.
Post by: phil d on 28 October, 2019, 10:31:06 am
While the roadworks at South Moreton are continuing (until end-Nov) there is access for pedestrians and cyclists. So the routesheet stands. I have made a couple of cosmetic edits (including putting this year's date on) but last year's routesheet and gps file will be fine
Post by: Martin on 01 November, 2019, 11:59:37 am
looking a little damp in the morning, just when i can't find my overshoes :(
Post by: simonp on 01 November, 2019, 12:08:21 pm
Fighting against time to get my bike ready - hopefully not too late a night will follow as it's a 2h drive to the start.
Post by: Steve Orchard on 01 November, 2019, 07:39:18 pm
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Post by: P.P. on 01 November, 2019, 09:20:44 pm
Just over 8 and a half hours until my alarm goes off!
And just over 10 hours untill we all get wet!
Post by: Chris S on 01 November, 2019, 09:32:45 pm
Just over 8 and a half hours until my alarm goes off!
And just over 10 hours untill we all get wet!
Time for another round! :thumbsup:
(Big fan of this ride. We've been soaked on many occasion on this one)
Post by: bludger on 02 November, 2019, 06:07:10 am
Post by: Manotea on 02 November, 2019, 08:46:20 pm
Post by: Steve Orchard on 02 November, 2019, 09:48:49 pm
First 3rd was wet and windy.
Second third was just windy. Some good views from the tops.
Third third was wet. Saw a few fireworks.
Lots of potholes hiding in puddles.
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Post by: bludger on 02 November, 2019, 10:25:39 pm
Post by: Martin on 02 November, 2019, 11:21:53 pm
but nice to have a functional (Left; also my front braking) thumb this time! although after Christmas Common I didn't have any functional brakes as the skoggy downhill after Bix used them up!
managed to fit new pads in Bicester Halfords which was also where it started raining again and didn't stop after that.
The dull weather didn't stop the fab views and autunm colours though; and the fireworks at nearby Wallingford were in full swing as I climbed the last hill
Thanks Phil Mary Brian and others :thumbsup:
re DIYing I think this is one of those rides that should just be a calendar event; the time if year is usually petfect, the catering is superb and usually there is a huge field so a real sense of an event rather than just a ride.
Post by: P.P. on 03 November, 2019, 06:14:18 am
I think everyone else has summed the day up pretty well, wet, windy, character building stuff.
Many thanks to all involved for making what could have been a miserable day out a thoroughly enjoyable one.
Post by: kegere on 03 November, 2019, 07:40:35 am
Probably the wettest and windiest edition I've ridden however it is still a great route, now just to unload the car and clean a bike which was spotless just 24 hours ago.
Thanks to all who put the event on.
Post by: phil d on 03 November, 2019, 10:58:58 am
Thanks to everyone that entered, and my admiration to all who started. I'll try and get better weather next time (7/11/2020, by the way).
Yet again there was more than one rider for whom this was their first 200 - chapeau. I must admit that a winter event when finishing in the dark is a certainty, and when the forecast was a reasonably accurate "wet and windy", wouldn't be my choice.
As ever, the event couldn't happen without the support of a number of people, and this year my thanks are to Mary, Ian Doyle, Brian Mann, Martin Tillin, Mick Simmons and Peter Cowan, and of course the management and staff of Waterperry Tearooms and Old Mill Cafe who are always supportive.
The surplus on the event (a bit lower this year, probably about £200) will as usual be going to the Thames Valley Air Ambulance. Thanks to those who made an additional donation on the day.
Post by: bludger on 03 November, 2019, 11:51:22 am
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 03 November, 2019, 01:18:35 pm
The ride has a great section breakdown - 70km to Waterperry, another 70 to Chippy, then 70 to Cholsey. By Sonning Common the rain was stinging my face. I then punctured just outside the Loddon Brewery at Dunsden Green (tempted to pack there and take a few beers home). Got very cold faffing about trying to put a new tube in, but warmed up once on the road again. I was one of several riders to take advantage of Phil's track pump at Waterperry.
I thought the predicted 60/70mph winds were going to start as I was buffetted by some very strong side winds on the (normally very fast) descent before the Ashendon info control, but they didn't materialise. Instead I was treated to the standard headwinds between Bicester and Chippy. As at Waterperry, there wasn't a queue at the Old Mill and I was served very quickly; it appeared that the weather forecast had put the locals off venturing out.
Soon after Chippy it began to rain and didn't stop, not hard but constant. This slowed my progress as I tried to avoid sunken potholes. I stopped and made use of the outside light at Hanney Spice to augment both front and rear lights, then rode steadily back to Cholsey.
Type-2 fun, but a good day out nevertheless. Many thanks to Phil and helpers. See you next year.
Post by: Redlight on 03 November, 2019, 03:34:49 pm
Anybody on the start line this morning has a good claim on some bragging rights! :)
And this who made it back to the finish can claim even more. I was in the area (in the car) late yesterday afternoon and would not have fancied being out on the bike, especially as my only experience of this ride provides the happy memory of riding it in shorts and short sleeves in 2014.
Post by: Martin on 03 November, 2019, 05:48:50 pm
Anybody on the start line this morning has a good claim on some bragging rights! :)
well looking at the other 200 I have planned this month I thought better to bank this one!
re fireworks, the very first edition was on the 6th and there were loads of displays so there should quite a few on the 7th next year. Last night there were very few of the small local ones going and even peeps' own back gardens
also sad to see Didcot chimney for probably the last time
Post by: andyoxon on 03 November, 2019, 08:24:23 pm
... happy memory of riding it in shorts and short sleeves in 2014.
Yes! 16C as I remember. :)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49008813487_376bbe8d9f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hEJYNT)UT 2014 Ashendon Hill (https://flic.kr/p/2hEJYNT) by ao (https://www.flickr.com/photos/25983110@N05/), on Flickr
Well done to all those who rode on Saturday (I didn't enter this year)
Post by: phil d on 03 November, 2019, 09:35:21 pm
It was a terrific day out,how many people were there signed up to ride?
About 120 entered.
Post by: bludger on 03 November, 2019, 10:41:24 pm
Blimey...It was a terrific day out,how many people were there signed up to ride?
About 120 entered.
cheers :thumbsup:
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 03 November, 2019, 10:59:29 pm
Post by: Von Broad on 04 November, 2019, 01:20:13 am
and I’m a little surprised that so many folk stayed at home.
I must say, a big chapeau to those folk that made it round for their first 200. That was fine grounding indeed.
Hopefully, all being well, I'll be back next year.
To have a total of 49 as the lowest ever start to a regular event is quite a compliment really, and goes to show how successful the event has been over the years.
Post by: Neil C on 04 November, 2019, 01:42:23 pm
Four years of audaxing and my fourth Upper Thames. Took two hours longer than last year but the welcome at all the controls and the people I met made it all worthwhile.
Worst aspect was all the potholes hiding in puddles, especially in the dark. Despite choosing my lines carefully I hit more than I could count, and finally about 30km from the end a really large one had me shouting out, much to the amusement to the locals huddling in the bus shelter. I knew straight away that the bike had sustained some damage from the rhythmic thump. Luckily the tyre didn't deflate but there was a pulsing under braking. It was too wet and dark to stop so I just limped to the end.
Thanks to Phil and all his team - being last back does have its compensations as I was encouraged to finish off all the food, but failed.
(Yesterday, on closer inspection, I could see one spoke loose enough to rattle and a rim that needs replacing. So now is as good a time as any to start my wheelbuilding adventures!)
Post by: De Sisti on 04 November, 2019, 05:24:54 pm
I’m a little surprised that so many folk stayed at home.Perhaps some folk don't like riding in the wind and rain.
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 04 November, 2019, 05:35:35 pm
Post by: Danu on 04 November, 2019, 06:06:35 pm
Very few Permanents, definitely no diy,s so options minimal.
Guess we just caught up with what our club was doing or long rides with no brevet cards.
Southern reunion etc
Post by: bludger on 04 November, 2019, 07:48:27 pm
https://calumonwheels.wordpress.com/2019/11/04/how-far-riding-the-upper-thames-audax/
Thanks again Phil it was a corker.
Post by: Martin on 04 November, 2019, 10:46:37 pm
Not sure that statement is entirely correct LWaB.
Very few Permanents, definitely no diy,s so options minimal.
Guess we just caught up with what our club was doing or long rides with no brevet cards.
Southern reunion etc
I rode my first RRTY in 2006 thanks to El Supremo running a series, there was nothing local prior to that.
wet and windy 200s are fine in the South as long as you have decent clothing don't stop riding or get fairy visits and have plenty of warm places to stop, completely get not riding them if you don't have a points total or RTY to chase
Post by: Martin on 05 November, 2019, 02:10:38 pm
Thanks to everyone that entered, and my admiration to all who started. I'll try and get better weather next time (7/11/2020, by the way).
The 31st will be Halloween next year so unlikely there will be any big firework displays?
Post by: Neil C on 08 October, 2021, 04:18:16 pm
However I have just read the last couple of pages and can confirm that Randonnesia does exist. I had forgotten just how wet and windy the ride was in 2019. And that I was last back, with a broken bike.
The good news is that I now have a disc braked bike which should be better able to cope with the conditions .
Hope Phil has put his order in for a still, sunny day.
Post by: Lightning Phil on 09 October, 2021, 01:20:03 pm
The good news is that I now have a disc braked bike which should be better able to cope with the conditions.
But will the fella riding be better able to cope with conditions?
Post by: Neil C on 09 October, 2021, 11:10:49 pm
Post by: tomj on 10 October, 2021, 07:08:02 pm
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Post by: oggy on 30 October, 2021, 09:23:25 pm
Post by: JohnThomas on 30 October, 2021, 11:43:14 pm
Post by: Neil C on 31 October, 2021, 12:28:53 am
JohnThomas. I have just downloaded the gpx from the above site. On my PC it was showing as "Upper Thames 2021". I drag and dropped it into the "New Files" section of my Garmin 530. After disconnecting the Garmin from the PC it does appear in the saved courses but with the title "trk1".
I've never had a name change like that before but maybe "trk1" will be in your saved courses too.
Post by: JohnThomas on 31 October, 2021, 08:05:40 am
Post by: Lightning Phil on 31 October, 2021, 09:53:26 am
Post by: phil d on 01 November, 2021, 06:18:19 pm
I'm sorry about the track name in the gpx file causing confusion. Lightning Phil is absolutely correct and I should have renamed it. A few people have reported problems downloading the gpx file; it is more difficult under the new version of Google Sites that I have been forced to switch to. When you click the link for the gpx file, you will be presented (in a fresh window) the raw gpx data. At the top right of the page is a download icon (a down arrow pointing to a tray). Clicking on that will download the file into your downloads directory, from where you can do what you like with it.
Be aware that the gpx file contains a single very crude track ("trk1" as mentioned above) which, as it has less than 500 trackpoints does not follow the road exactly. It is, however, close enough (especially around junctions) that no confusion should be caused. The file also contains waypoints for the controls, info or otherwise. My experience, with an old eTrex, is that the waypoints only show on the screen at certain zoom levels. More recent devices may well be more flexible. I have no idea how a gpx track might be converted to tcx, but rather assume that as gpx is ubiquitous users with devices that use tcx format (or any other) know how to do it. It's a while since I did an audax, but it was always my practice to get the track on my device and examine it to check that it was complete, and went where expected. It's something of a disaster to start a ride and find the GPS isn't working. Especially if you've not got a copy of the routesheet in a good plastic bag.
Please note that I will NOT be in a position to provide any downloads at the start. You need to get it sorted before you come.
Post by: mattc on 06 November, 2021, 09:29:23 am
But likely to be Phil's last year :(
Plans in the pot for succession ...
Post by: toontra on 06 November, 2021, 06:58:47 pm
Will be strange without Phil at the controls (literally as well as figuratively), but I'm sure whoever takes over will do a great job
Post by: postie on 06 November, 2021, 08:29:32 pm
Big thanks to phil and the team.
Post by: Jeff E on 06 November, 2021, 09:54:59 pm
Post by: PAC on 06 November, 2021, 10:14:19 pm
Yet Another great Upper Thames from Phil. A superb route, which the weather allowed us to fully appreciate. Phil has set a very high standard. Thanks Phil for keeping this going for so long. Your successor not be able to improve on it.Hi Jeff, I think that must’ve been you that said hello when I went past in the Chilterns….hope all is well with you :thumbsup:
Post by: Von Broad on 06 November, 2021, 11:06:07 pm
Big thanks for Phil and Mary and all the helpers over the years. Top job. Soup wasn't bad either!
Think I must have done 10 of Phil's 18 yrs on the throne.
I always think it's a nice 200 to ride before the end of the year.
Thanks again.
Post by: De Sisti on 07 November, 2021, 09:57:03 am
garmin (which I intended to navigate by) locking up at the start (and despite googling, I have not yet
successfully rebooted it) and by my seat post clamp failing to properly secure my seat post (resulting
in the seat post and saddle swivelling around about a 45 degree arc.
I was returning back to Waterperry to inform Phil of my decision to pack, when I stopped* to offer my
Zefal hpx pump to two roadies in layby. They'd just sorted out their puncture and I told them about my
problem. One of them advised me to use a piece from a coke or beer can and insert it inside the clamp
so that it would help to secure the seat post.
The local litter louts had discarded a beer can nearby, so a piece of it was torn off and used inside
the seat post clamp which helped with the bodge. It stayed firm, but by then, my morale was lower than
a snake's belly, so I continued back to Cholsey to collect my car.
*Earlier when I was faffing about with my seat post, a roadie approached me, slowed down and asked
if everything was ok. I said no, and he just continued riding by.
To me, if you're not prepared to offer any assistance, don't bother asking if everything is ok. ::-)
Post by: Von Broad on 07 November, 2021, 10:48:25 am
My ride was ruined by my
garmin (which I intended to navigate by) locking up at the start
I always carry a route sheet as back up.......but....having said that, it's only ever shoved into my rack pack in random fashion with the assumption that 'I should be ok and it's only a back-up'. Strikes me I'm seldom prepared to mount it properly on the bars anyway should my Vista hcx got belly up, which makes a farce of carrying the thing in the first place really. I've always been slightly conscious of audaxing-on-the-edge with only navigating by Garmin alone. I still do it though.
To me, if you're not prepared to offer any assistance, don't bother asking if everything is ok. ::-)
quite
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 07 November, 2021, 10:52:58 am
People by the side of the road don’t have much wind in their ears and sometimes don’t raise their voice appropriately for riders to hear. I have circled back to check a mumbled ‘ok’ too many times. Now I pragmatically take the approach that a too-quiet response that I can’t actually hear over wind noise means ‘no problem’. An emphatic reply means ‘I have a real problem here and would appreciate some help’. YMMV
Sleeping through my alarm meant that HK and I were almost the last to leave Cholsey and we plodded our way round without too many issues. HK is just starting to build back after some health issues and is still dodging the toughest hills, so we spent more time than most on the main road near the start before accurately following the route. We repeatedly saw a fair few of the later-starting and slower riders on the road and at the controls. My only issue was skipping breakfast beforehand and not having any food at the first control. Apparently breakfast finishes at 11:00 and lunch starts at 12:00. In between, only cake slices, which didn’t appeal one little bit. The last half hour through the headwinds into Chipping Norton, I was running on fumes until I inhaled an omelette and chips to set me up for the final leg.
I haven’t got my Moulton fully dialled in after loaning it for a few weeks. The seat position needed some tweaking and the front suspension damping kept loosening off throughout the ride. Relying on Loctite is dubious when the damping is meant to be adjustable. No major issues but there was somewhat more bobbing on climbs than I would prefer. Time to clean out and Loctite the front damping bolts into submission.
Post by: De Sisti on 07 November, 2021, 12:02:10 pm
using the Garmin to wholly navigate an audax with for the first time.
Post by: phil d on 07 November, 2021, 12:56:58 pm
I think most people enjoyed it (some more in retrospect, I'm sure). The weather was relatively benign, and I'm told the firework displays were particularly good.
As ever I am indebted to all those who helped me run the event - Matt Chambers and John Wakeham at the start, Brian Mann (a complete star) at start and finish, and Mick Simmons and Carole at the finish. And of course Mary, without whose support it just couldn't have happened. I am very grateful for the particularly large number of entries (over 160 entered), and the generous donations. It looks as though about £600 will be going to the Air Ambulance.
As Matt says above, I have decided it's time to hang up my organiser's hat. I've been running Upper Thames for 18 years, plus a few other events in the Reading area occasionally, but now have little involvement with cycling other than this. I've had a great deal of enjoyment from audax, both as a rider and an organiser. It is clear from fields like yesterday that our sport is in a healthy condition. I understand there may be someone interested in continuing this event. If that proves correct (or if someone else comes forward) I will be very happy to give my support in the planning and "on the day". So hopefully I'll see you all next year.
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 07 November, 2021, 02:24:42 pm
Thanks Phil and Mary for all your efforts over the year, not least as controllers as Eskdalemuir (2009), Barnard Castle (2013) and St Ives (2017) on LEL. The food yesterday was excellent and saw me through the 40km ride home afterwards.
Post by: Thing2 on 07 November, 2021, 08:19:59 pm
Post by: De Sisti on 08 November, 2021, 11:00:22 am
As it happens, I did have a routesheet and map as a back-up, but I set out with the determination ofOnline fixes didn't work, neither did the one suggested by Garmin. They said that as my model
using the Garmin to wholly navigate an audax with for the first time.
(Garmin Edge Touring Plus) is discontinued, they couldn't fix it or offer a refurbished one. They
did offer me a 30% discount on an upgrade, so I took the 30% off an Edge 830 and paid £249.99.
So much for the tagline on their website: Built to last. The Edge Touring Plus was only four years old. ::-)
Post by: Genosse Brymbo on 08 November, 2021, 01:34:01 pm
... My ride was ruined by my garmin (which I intended to navigate by) locking up at the start (and despite googling, I have not yet successfully rebooted it), ...Strange you should report your Garmin having locked up. I'm a GPS-only navigator and have only taken routesheets on LEL, PBP, and HBK. My Etrex 20 "locked up" near to East Hagbourne close to the arrivee. The black triangle which follows the track froze and didn't advance. Unfortunately this happened on a straight section and I was a good few km off course and entering Didcot before I realised it wasn't moving and that the road shape differed significantly from the Garmin track's straight section, d'oh. I was able to power the unit off and then on again, after which it worked fine.
Thanks Phil and Mary for all your efforts over the years. I've ridden several editions of the Upper Thames, enjoyed your care at Barnard Castle on LEL 2013, and had the pleasure of working with you at St. Ives in 2017. The excellent organisation of the Upper Thames made it an easy decision to work under you at St Ives. Thank you for your significant contribution to my enjoyment of the sport.
Post by: dave d on 09 November, 2021, 11:14:52 am
Many thanks to Phil, Mary and all the helpers. It's been a great event Phil and it was also a pleasure to work under you at St Ives in 2017.
Post by: Neil C on 10 November, 2021, 07:06:01 pm
After Bicester, as I was struggling into the wind, LWaB passed me and shouted "Hop on". I managed to stay on the wheel for a few kilometres but finally had to admit to myself I was trying too hard and dropped off. But thanks for the encouragement.
The final few kilometres into Chipping Norton along the main road were a real slog into the wind but The Old Mill Cafe was a welcome oasis and set me up for the final third of the ride.
Forty kilometres from the end my rear gear cable snapped and led to some roadside fettling and reduced speed. But this just gave me more time to relax and take in the firework displays!
The welcome and the food back at Cholsey were as good as ever. Thanks to Phil, Mary and all the team for all their efforts.
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 12 November, 2021, 02:37:48 pm
Passed a fair few dealing with punctures before the first control, then I diverted to Henley to avoid the Bix descent, and I wasn't alone in this. Back to Christmas common and the info I had already checked one the way to Cholsey and then stopping in little Milton for a quick snack, 6 minutes lost, although arriving at Waterperry at 11:10, that wasn't crucial, but I did wish I had picked up something more substantial in the little milton village store.
Over the hills to Bicester, which were worse than I remembered as I only remembered the one big climb to Ashenden and the info. some nice lanes northwestwards, before the final slog into Chipping Campden, arriving at the Old Mill Cafe it was heaving so I grabbed some quick food from sainsburys and pushed on.
Where was the next info? something Basset and the fire hydrant number opposite the phone box, or was it the post box (after all there aren't many phone boxes left now). Hope I don't miss it. No need to worry as there was a group milling around opposite the phone box (and post box). Last number retrieved, short discussion about what it means, turns out the top number is the diameter of the main (3"), and the bottom number is the distance from the main to to the sign. 5 feet. Apparently newer signs use metric units which must make things interesting, is it two feet or two metres to the hydrant?
Now onto the last leg and hopefully more fireworks than normal as I think I might be a bit later than I have been previously, but just a few on the high points approaching Cholsey. Nice big feed (thanks to the volunteers) and then the cycle home which was less appealing with 240km in the legs. Saw some more fireworks at Cookley Green from the bottom of Swyncombe hill and the top, but hidden by the hill on the way up.
All in all a good day out in mild dry conditions which is great for November, a lot of good riding, but missing out on good hot food due to starting later (08:14 by the time I left)
Post by: phil d on 05 January, 2022, 03:38:46 pm
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9614
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 05 January, 2022, 09:10:27 pm
Post by: phil d on 08 January, 2022, 04:05:59 pm
Post by: toontra on 08 January, 2022, 05:02:19 pm
It's likely we'll be there. Just not "officially".:thumbsup:
Post by: phil d on 12 January, 2022, 10:41:28 am
I have investigated, and believe that what is happening is that some batches of mail which didn't appear to send properly at the time have suddenly been reactivated and sent. As I have no device accessing that email account, this appears to be a spontaneous activity at the ISP. I can see no way of stopping it - I have accessed the account through web-mail, and there is nothing shown as outstanding.
I apologise for any inconvenience / confusion caused.
Phil
Post by: Peat on 25 August, 2022, 09:12:53 am
As Phil says, my partner (not of this parish) has taken the reigns for the UT200 and plans are well underway for the 2022 running. I shall be assuming general dogsboddy and YACF correspondent roles going forward.
Enter: https://audax.uk/event-details/9614-upper_thames
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Post by: trundle on 25 August, 2022, 04:40:16 pm
Post by: Peat on 01 November, 2022, 10:38:33 am
Further to this, unfortunately we have been made aware that the Rail strike action on Saturday will make getting to the start by rail a no-go.
Too early to tell on the weather, but there is some of it about. As per.
Post by: mattc on 04 November, 2022, 03:51:14 pm
Morning looking damp. See you all there?
Post by: De Sisti on 04 November, 2022, 04:17:24 pm
to resume exercises yesterday; :thumbsup: after keyhole surgery to remove a cancerous prostate gland
in September.
Post by: toontra on 04 November, 2022, 04:31:30 pm
Post by: Bikeabilityman on 06 November, 2022, 03:59:55 pm
Post by: mattc on 09 November, 2022, 06:50:11 pm
My favourite audax ride. I would like to have taken part, but I was only given the go-aheadHope we'll see you on the road soon :thumbsup:
to resume exercises yesterday; :thumbsup: after keyhole surgery to remove a cancerous prostate gland
in September.