Poll

Think of a number then double it...they will

£3000
0 (0%)
£3250
1 (2.1%)
£3500
4 (8.3%)
£3750
4 (8.3%)
£4000
8 (16.7%)
£4250
7 (14.6%)
£4500
11 (22.9%)
Less than £3000 (as if)
2 (4.2%)
More than £4500
11 (22.9%)

Total Members Voted: 48

Voting closed: 19 January, 2022, 05:53:49 pm

Author Topic: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton  (Read 10687 times)

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #25 on: 07 January, 2022, 05:16:25 pm »
you certainly wouldn't be paying £1300 for a basic one.
My basic one was £800  ;)

Kim

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #26 on: 07 January, 2022, 05:56:21 pm »
Hang on, this is Brompton: Are we sure it's actually a titanium bike, and not just an Exclusive! New! paint colour?

rogerzilla

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #27 on: 07 January, 2022, 06:05:25 pm »
A good point...if the new bike is raw Ti, they can't charge you for a coloured lacquer paint job.  Better add another £250 to the price to make up for it.
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #28 on: 12 January, 2022, 10:21:57 pm »
The Dahon’s BB brace to the top tube is paired and the rear wheel fits between when folded. It isn’t an exact match to the Brompton’s single brace that lies along the rear tyre when folded. That alone might be enough difference to avoid copyright issues.
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Kim

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #30 on: 18 January, 2022, 06:16:12 pm »
I'll take that as a win for the "just under £4000" option.   :smug:

rogerzilla

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #31 on: 18 January, 2022, 09:30:12 pm »
Dang, I had £3,750!

So it's cheaper than the median YACF guess.  Sign me up for v3.1, after the bugs are mostly ironed out.
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #32 on: 18 January, 2022, 09:49:04 pm »
But how light is it?

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #33 on: 19 January, 2022, 05:47:55 am »
But how light is it?
7.54kg for the single speed
7.95kg for the 4 speed

The one thing which surprises me is the price, given that (as far as I am aware) the frame is made in the UK, and not Asia.

rogerzilla

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #34 on: 19 January, 2022, 07:26:14 am »
Strong, light, cheap...pick two   :)

A lot of the weight saving comes from CF rather than titanium.  I''m not sure CF forks and bars will relish being scratched up on a train.  The spivs are already advertising them for £5,000+
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.

citoyen

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #35 on: 19 January, 2022, 12:51:48 pm »
The fold on the Hummingbird is woeful, though.

YMMV. I like it. It's somewhat narrower when folded than the Brompton, which makes it easier to carry by your side. It also means it slots into the gap between train seats, which the Brompton doesn't.

Looking at the released details for the Brompton, it's pretty much a direct competitor for the Hummingbird, so if the fold is a clincher for you, then obviously the Brompton wins. And of course the Brompton has the name and reputation that the Hummingbird doesn't have.

If I were shopping for a folder with £4k to spend, I would find it hard to choose. I'm unlikely to be facing that choice any time soon though.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #36 on: 19 January, 2022, 02:48:42 pm »
One of the guys on LFGSS has just bought a Ti 5 speed Brompton Chinese clone for his partner. £2.8k

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #37 on: 20 January, 2022, 02:22:21 pm »
Given LWaB's comments here, the third photo in this review doesn't inspire one with confidence.

rogerzilla

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #38 on: 20 January, 2022, 02:35:54 pm »
Given LWaB's comments here, the third photo in this review doesn't inspire one with confidence.
Oh, that's nasty-looking.

Quote from: Internet puff piece
Certainly, it's no S-Works Tarmac, but take your eyes off the fold for a moment and you could be convinced you were riding a custom titanium commuter.

Yeah right, so the straight bars, pogo from the rear suspension and febrile steering just fade away.
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.

citoyen

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #39 on: 20 January, 2022, 02:54:58 pm »
Given LWaB's comments here, the third photo in this review doesn't inspire one with confidence.

 :o
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #40 on: 20 January, 2022, 03:29:59 pm »
Given LWaB's comments here, the third photo in this review doesn't inspire one with confidence.
Oh, that's nasty-looking.

Quote from: Internet puff piece
Certainly, it's no S-Works Tarmac, but take your eyes off the fold for a moment and you could be convinced you were riding a custom titanium commuter.

Yeah right, so the straight bars, pogo from the rear suspension and febrile steering just fade away.


That review is bollocks; badly written and full of non-sequiturs. One might think that it's an advertorial.

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #41 on: 20 January, 2022, 04:27:48 pm »
Given LWaB's comments here, the third photo in this review doesn't inspire one with confidence.

A few years ago I was looking at a similar component with one of my colleagues and had to explain to him that, while a quick scrub over with some Scotch-Brite would remove the pretty colours, the damage that they indicated was more than skin deep   ::-)

Notfromrugby

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #42 on: 21 January, 2022, 07:24:14 pm »
I wonder how they managed to use the fold without attracting Brompton's copyright rotweilers?

I spoke to Will Butler once at a conference. Brompton hold no patents on their designs. They rightly object that a patent is only worth it if you can afford the legal costs involved in going to court and they probably can’t

Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #43 on: 24 January, 2022, 01:46:05 pm »
If Brompton had any patents, they would've expired years/decades ago.

rogerzilla

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Re: FUN POLL: Price of new full titanium Brompton
« Reply #44 on: 24 January, 2022, 03:17:02 pm »
They use copyright law now.
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.