Author Topic: Any bets on European touring this year?  (Read 607 times)

Any bets on European touring this year?
« on: 07 January, 2022, 10:43:36 pm »
We've not felt it right to have a 2 week family tour over the Channel since 2020. We had 3 years touring as a family in Netherlands,  France and Belgium. This year we're hoping it'll be safe to book the ferry and campsites in Belgium late July/ early August. We need to book in reasonable time but don't want to if we might lose out if we have to cancel due to increased infection rates or if it  starts feel like covid risk is increasing.

It's too early to decide whether to go for it, plan and book. I just wonder if there's any predictions on the pandemic into summer? Do you think it'll be safe/ right this summer to tour? What's your gut feeling this year?

Family is two adults and a 9 year old so it's also important that things like attractions open up to. Cycle touring with a9 year old also needs to entertain too.

robgul

  • Cycle:End-to-End webmaster
  • cyclist, Cytech accredited mechanic & woodworker
    • Cycle:End-to-End
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #1 on: 08 January, 2022, 07:53:56 am »
I/we are in a dilemma too - club has had a foreign tour of about 10 days each year from 2012-2019, France, Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, Holland have been visited.

2020 and then 2021 were supposed to have been Loire-Atlantique, didn't happen . . and the same for 2022 in mid-June.   At the moment the door seems firmly closed in France.

So, who knows? - we've just set the end of March as the yes/no decision for the group - so at least there's a chance for the members to look at alternatives.

For 2021 we had a short 5 day tour in the UK but it wasn't that good - being very expensive for hotel accommodation and meals.  We agreed that our group trips were only to "the foreign" in future

Personal view is odds at about 15% likely to happen.

Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #2 on: 08 January, 2022, 12:01:50 pm »
We all thought it was going the right way at the beginning of November, then look what happened.

Planning anything is a long way from any sort of guarantee. Most depressing.
Rust never sleeps

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #3 on: 08 January, 2022, 12:34:04 pm »
HK and I are hoping to bounce over to France for no more than a week each a couple of times this year. We will see what circumstances allow.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

quixoticgeek

  • Mostly Harmless
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #4 on: 08 January, 2022, 12:45:36 pm »


I wouldn't book anything non refundable...

J
--
Beer, bikes, and backpacking
http://b.42q.eu/

αdαmsκι

  • Twitter @Dr_AAY Instagram @ucfaaay Strava @ucfaaay
  • Look haggard. It sells.
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #5 on: 08 January, 2022, 12:54:53 pm »
Well travel is possible at the moment depending on destinations. France is currently not an option but I was away over October half and Christmas / NYE. Both times I entered the Schengen Zone via The Netherlands. It required some admin (pre departure LFT, Dutch quarantine documentation, UK passenger locator form & COVID tests on return etc) but it was possible. There's extra costs involved for COVID tests too. I also spent summer 2020 in France, tho on that trip got caught by the UK government reintroducing quarantine restrictions while away. However with vaccinations the quarantine system seems to be a thing of the past.

I would imagine travel will be easier in the summer as case loads (hopefully) drop and pressures on hospitals decrease in spring and summer.

So yes I think it would be possible. But to be on safe side either book flexible tickets or just hold off booking anything until closer to the time
What on earth am I doing here on this beautiful day?! This is the only life I've got!!

https://tyredandhungry.wordpress.com/

Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #6 on: 08 January, 2022, 01:27:21 pm »
When I last looked (a few weeks ago admittedly), France was possible for a flying visit, Belgium totally inpracticable. As Belgium has had the worst Covid outbreak in Europe I'm not surprised that they have severe restrictions. I'm sure the rules have changed since then, though, and will again in the future. But I wouldn't be very optimistic, and definitely wouldn't book anything non-refundable.

quixoticgeek

  • Mostly Harmless
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #7 on: 08 January, 2022, 01:30:52 pm »
When I last looked (a few weeks ago admittedly), France was possible for a flying visit, Belgium totally inpracticable. As Belgium has had the worst Covid outbreak in Europe I'm not surprised that they have severe restrictions. I'm sure the rules have changed since then, though, and will again in the future. But I wouldn't be very optimistic, and definitely wouldn't book anything non-refundable.

Right now it is not possible for someone from the UK to visit France unless they are a French resident (or a few other exceptions), they are even stopping Brit's with residency in other countries from driving through France to get to those states.

.NL is in a complete lockdown at the moment. Essential shops only are open. Everything else is shut. And I think there's a 10 day quarantine for Brits, but I'm not sure.

No idea about Belgium, or Germany.

In short, no, don't come. Not right now anyway.

J
--
Beer, bikes, and backpacking
http://b.42q.eu/

Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #8 on: 08 January, 2022, 01:33:34 pm »
All my Belgian colleagues are still WFH, but that’s not stopping them going on a company skiing trip next week  ::-)
We are making a New World (Paul Nash, 1918)

MikeFromLFE

  • Previously known as Millimole
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #9 on: 08 January, 2022, 02:17:31 pm »
There's some crystal  ball  gazing here 
iNews: When will Covid end? Experts predict how likely we are to ‘learn to live’ with coronavirus in 2022.
https://inews.co.uk/news/covid-end-when-learn-live-with-coronavirus-2022-prediction-1385737

Which if I read anything at all into it then I'd agree with the 15% probability above.
We're still hoping to do The Great Interrail Adventure, but it's not looking good for 2022 and certainly not making the mistake of booking anything non-refundable.
Too many angry people - breathe & relax.

Kim

  • Timelord
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #10 on: 08 January, 2022, 02:24:23 pm »
Travel restrictions aside, there's a highly infectious airborne disease that's liable to ruin your cycle tour if you come down with it.  Any plan should include a what-to-do-if-you-get-ill strategy that doesn't involve crossing borders or using public transport.

robgul

  • Cycle:End-to-End webmaster
  • cyclist, Cytech accredited mechanic & woodworker
    • Cycle:End-to-End
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #11 on: 08 January, 2022, 03:32:52 pm »
I/we are in a dilemma too - club has had a foreign tour of about 10 days each year from 2012-2019, France, Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, Holland have been visited.

2020 and then 2021 were supposed to have been Loire-Atlantique, didn't happen . . and the same for 2022 in mid-June.   At the moment the door seems firmly closed in France.

So, who knows? - we've just set the end of March as the yes/no decision for the group - so at least there's a chance for the members to look at alternatives.

For 2021 we had a short 5 day tour in the UK but it wasn't that good - being very expensive for hotel accommodation and meals.  We agreed that our group trips were only to "the foreign" in future

Personal view is odds at about 15% likely to happen.

I should add that I'm also supposed to be driving the support vehicle/being mechanic for a small group planning a charity ride in July - London to Paris (via Calais) - that was planned for July 2020 and didn't happen - fingers are being crossed for 5 July 2022.   My % prediction still applies  ???

Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #12 on: 08 January, 2022, 04:34:04 pm »
I wonder if Covid hasn’t blurred the postBrexit changes. We’re now past January 1st 2022 when key changes kick in. I wonder if the new card to replace the EHIC will cover as much; will travel insurance increase? Are the changes to driving, motor insurance and driver licensing clear? What about the new visas to visit Europe?

αdαmsκι

  • Twitter @Dr_AAY Instagram @ucfaaay Strava @ucfaaay
  • Look haggard. It sells.
Re: Any bets on European touring this year?
« Reply #13 on: 09 January, 2022, 09:53:18 am »
This may help with what's open / closed. It'll depend on where you are travelling from, your passport and vaccination status.

https://apply.joinsherpa.com/map
What on earth am I doing here on this beautiful day?! This is the only life I've got!!

https://tyredandhungry.wordpress.com/