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Title: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 03 March, 2022, 07:05:32 pm: A place for the Instapot curious, filthy photos of fried potatoes, succulent pressure cooked successes and AirCrisp^(TM) experiments.

[Going to chat to the mods about moving things over from favouritekitchenthings, brb.]
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 15 April, 2022, 06:23:58 pm: I see the mods haven't moved anything. I don't have an air fryer but I've just read a time/cost comparison of air fryer vs conventional oven.
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Findings
Airfryer

Time: 15 minutes.

Taste: Delicious, but slightly dry and a bit singed.

Cost: 20p.

Oven

Time: 41 minutes.

Taste: Perfectly cooked and more succulent than the ones cooked in the air fryer.

Cost: 42p.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/compare-energy-usage-costs-using-6958199
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 16 April, 2022, 10:38:55 am: Yeah, I tried 3 different accounts, but no-one replied.

For future reference, the posts we were wanting to split out to here can be found from: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=119528.msg2702024#msg2702024

Thanks for the costings info, Cudzoziemiec.

My Ninja Foodi, my sewing machine, my Geiger counter and I were all recently house guests with friends for a few days whilst the landlord ripped out my kitchen. Friends had just had a smart meter installed, so we kind of sort of tried to get a sense of the energy use, but there was a lot of energy use going on and tbh we were having too much fun in the kitchen at the vital moments!

IIRC we were seeing something like 30p per hour and 50p per hour total rates, but that was for everything, including pumping water out of the bore hole. Or was that 0.3p and 0.5p per hour? How much does energy even cost nowadays? We tried to locate a power monitor plug, but couldn't.

Pressure cooked cheesecake, caramel, toasted pecans, from-mix falafel, butter nut nut butter soup, crispy coated tofu, pizza a la Foresty Forest and granola were all successfully produced and consumed.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: slope on 18 April, 2022, 03:46:34 pm: Kale "crisps" :thumbsup: Ninja Foodi Grill AG301. Air fry preheated @180º around 5 or 6 minutes MAX, with several shakings and checkings inbetweens.

200g kale shredded and stalks removed (good to chop and use elsewhere). Mix and massage crinkly leaves in a bowl with a tbsp of oil, some salt (not as much as one might think) and optional spice of choice (ras al hanout and Chinese 5 spice go down well here). Don't bother with the basket, just bung in the main bowl.

They stay crisp for a day or two, even in an open bowl. I love the chewiness too.

Great snack and topping for fried rice and many other dishes.

Much quicker and cheaper than a conventional oven
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 19 April, 2022, 11:54:36 am: I did Balinese curried duck legs on Friday, using the pressure cooker function for 40 minutes resulted in perfect duck legs – that normally takes about 2.5 hours on the hob.

Similarly, it's very handy for spaghetti bolognese – saute the soffrito in the pan, added the ingredients and pressure cook for twenty minutes, cooking the pasta on the hob in the meantime, it's pretty much a 30-minute job.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 19 April, 2022, 02:56:15 pm: I can't remember if I said before, but air frying has revolutionised kale chips for me - I was guaranteed to burn them in the oven. I'm liking the auto-swirl effect and the auto-turn-off-before-they're-carburised features of doing them now.

I've yet to try spicing them, so might have to give that a go. Also recalibrating to think of them as a topping rather than a side - thanks Slope!

I batch cook a pasta sauce in much the same way that ian describes. I'm trying to master defrosting a portion at the same time as using the pressure cooker to cook the pasta. The first attempt was a bit too watery. The second attempt...

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52008386267_840ef39b63_c.jpg)

So I need to find the happy medium there then...

Today I've tried Korean Steamed Egg (Gyeranjjim) as per https://youtu.be/482spGXZtdg?t=165

The mix was a bit too much for my container though and lifted up the trangia lid cover I was using, so it's a bit moist, but otherwise looking like it'll become a regular feature.

I've been trying different ways of dealing with eggs so I can cook them alongside bread for breakfast. The bread is usually batch made gluten free flour and yoghurt flatbreads, rolled out, frozen, then air fried when the time comes. For eggs, cracked into a greaseproof paper 'boat' was okay, and meant I could get a second use out of the separators for the frozen flatbreads; just putting the raw egg in it's shell in the basket was hit and miss; but I think putting a slice of baked/steamed eggness in to reheat as the bread cooks is looking like a good approach. Goes well with a bit of kimchi :thumbsup:
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: slope on 19 April, 2022, 03:26:28 pm: Quote from: nikki on 19 February, 2022, 10:43:57 am
I may have to invest in some TIG welding gloves though - have picked up a few burns extracting things from the upright chamber.

I've been using a pair of these (https://www.healthandcare.co.uk/kitchenware/coolskin-heat-resistant-oven-gloves-375.html) Aramid™ outer knitted gloves since September 2020 and have been extremely pleased. Because they're knitted they conform to the shape of your hands and fingers which provides excellent dexterity too :thumbsup:

https://www.healthandcare.co.uk/kitchenware/coolskin-heat-resistant-oven-gloves-375.html
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 19 April, 2022, 04:05:34 pm: Ah! You've just reminded me I have some TIG Fingers (https://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/rhino-protection-tig-finger/) somewhere. hmmmmm...

A friend's just dropped in with, for reasons I don't fully understand, 3 gluten free bloomers just past their best before date. One has been turned into toasty breadcrumbs, another has been cubed and put in the freezer ready for speedy cruton-ing when butternut nut butter soup (https://www.rivercottage.net/recipes/butternut-nut-butter-soup) day comes around, and the other will be accompanying the egg briquettes. Phewp!
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 19 April, 2022, 09:06:19 pm: I am enjoying the pressure cooker function – it really does reduce cooking time dramatically (and saves the day when I forget to start slow cooking something). Plus it adds a bit of drama to my culinary exploits (and steam cleans the kitchen ceiling).

Baked gnocchi is another good one, saute some leek, spring greens, with garlic until soft and translucent, stir in some spinach, while soaking some gnocchi in boiling water for a minute or so. Add the gnocchi, a couple of spoons of single cream, a handful of parmesan, and some lemon zest, mix it up, and put some more parmesan on the top, then switch to baking mode for 10 minutes until it's crispy on top. Literally a fifteen-minute meal in a single pan.

I did air fry some supermarket samosa yesterday and they came out perfectly crisp (about a gallon of oil dripped out of the bottom of them, probably not the healthiest of snacks).
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 30 April, 2022, 12:24:05 pm: Progress with pressure cooking pasta: the latest attempt was a pot-in-pot attempt, separating out the cooking water for the pasta from the water for the pressure cooking doings in the main pot.

Two 6"cake tins (https://www.thecakedecoratingcompany.co.uk/spring-500-c281/pme-2-inch-deep-round-seamless-cake-tin-p13758) stacked on top of each other on the trivet. One with salted water and spaghetti, the other with frozen block of pasta sauce. Trusty Trangia lid to top it off. 10 mins on high was slightly too much, and I didn't need to add a splash of water to the sauce pan. Getting there!

Roasted beetroot with a balsamic vinegar and honey glaze planned for later this weekend.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 02 May, 2022, 09:24:17 pm: I have had an air fryer for about 2 years and love it. It is the smallest Ninja and is big enough for the 2 of us.

salmon skin for 4 minutes then add in salmon on greaseproof paper for another four minutes. perfect

Bang bang cauliflower is perfect and celeriac chips or turnip chips.

As has been said kale crisps with 5 spice

Sausages
tofu
chicken breasts

Almost everything goes in. Only things that do not are steak and tuna. Less mell, less cleaning.

Instant pot only had for about a year. I tend to follow the twosleever recipes. her butter chicken is sublime. Left over veg just gets thrown in with some chicken stock and turned into soup.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: T42 on 03 May, 2022, 08:18:18 am: Butter chicken with prawns was what I was cooking far too often when the GP clocked my blood cholesterol at 3.4 g/l (8.77 mmol/l) 30 years ago. Haven't had it since.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 03 May, 2022, 09:48:09 am: I recall that Jamie Oliver managed to make butter chicken without butter (or fenugreek, for that matter) – the subject of much Uncle Roger derision. I think it also featured sun-dried tomatoes and, of course, olive oil. It probably tasted as good as it sounds.

I am getting a lot of use out of our Foodi, which is nice as there is always the danger of yet another unused kitchen gadget. Chinese cultural appropriation duck last night – brown the duck legs, fried up shallots, ginger, garlic in the duck fat, add five-spice, ground coriander, a touch of cayenne, some whole star anise, then deglaze the pan with a generous splash of rice wine vinegar and soy sauce, add the duck legs and some stock and then pressure cook for 45 mins. Take off the lid and reduce the sauce till thick while the rice is cooking. Two pots, job done. I think I bastardized some recipe for ribs, it's lost to time.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Wowbagger on 03 May, 2022, 10:46:59 am: I have just stumbled across this thread.

OK. Which one should I buy? ;)
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Mr Larrington on 03 May, 2022, 11:07:35 am: (https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/02/17/NABJ/9f2016aa-be3c-4dbb-a1cb-0de34fb5a69e-Coyote_Acme_Warner_Bros..jpg)
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 03 May, 2022, 11:08:08 am: Quote from: ian on 03 May, 2022, 09:48:09 am
Chinese cultural appropriation duck last night

Meanwhile, last night I was feeding a Chinese student a Sunday Roast (rescheduled due to crap PhD supervisors):

Roast pork and crackling
Roast tatties
Roasted beetroot with balsamic glaze
Slightly charred (in a good way) broccoli
Cauliflower cheese
Air fried potato peelings as a tide-me-over snack that wasn't needed because the pork cooked quicker than I was expecting.
Cheesecake after a gentle stroll

Saucy things made on the hob, but everything else done in the Foodi. Some microwaving just before serving.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 26 June, 2022, 06:46:47 am: The beeb have done a podcast on airfyers, based on a question about whether they save money: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0018hjr

IIRC they reckoned that for each of a chicken breast and a jacket spud, the air fryer was less than half as expensive than cooking in a conventional oven. Obviously more questions flow from the experiment design, but I think you could equally be cooking a whole meal at the same time in each of those, so it's interesting/encouraging to get that ballpark ~~figure~~ %.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Kim on 26 June, 2022, 12:06:12 pm: Having recently fitted an energy monitor upstream of our conventional oven, it's certainly adept at using lots of electricity. Okay if you're cooking a family roast with all the trimmings but something less power-hungry is clearly going to be a huge win for something with a long cooking time like a jacket potato.

Microwaving's pretty efficient (but obviously results in microwaved food), wonder how those combination oven things compare?

ETA: Similarly, the bread machine uses less power to bake a loaf than the oven would.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: TimC on 26 June, 2022, 01:50:17 pm: I have a combo oven, and it's great for baked potatoes. A big potato microwaved for 7-8 minutes, then baked at 180 or so for 5-10 mins (depending on how thick the skin is) is good for me.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 26 June, 2022, 05:41:30 pm: One of the campsites I stayed at on the way up to York had a large and friendly population of statics. I overheard a conversation between staticists (as they were strolling past my tent – I was pitched next to the canal gate so almost the whole site went past at some time) in which one was extolling the virtues of his Ninja thing, how it produced real cooking quickly and cheaply.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 21 July, 2022, 07:30:18 pm: Falafel are the new big air fryer win here this week - a discovery a few days ago when we were using up pantry staples rather than facing the ordeal of sustained movement to go and do the grocery shopping!

Improvising around Kenji J Lopez-Alt's version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9RczIcY_1c) and the first few search engine results for "air fryer falafel".

15 mins or a bit less at around 190C seems to do the trick nicely. There was no way I was going to be doing anything involving a pan of hot oil!
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Valiant on 26 July, 2022, 06:52:25 pm: Ooh I may have to try that. Fallafel can also be shallow fried in a frying pan at a push to decent enough results.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 16 August, 2022, 09:48:47 pm: Money off Ninjas according to MSE https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/deals/ninja-deals-/#54229
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Robh on 16 August, 2022, 11:13:42 pm: Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 16 August, 2022, 09:48:47 pm
Money off Ninjas according to MSE https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/deals/ninja-deals-/#54229
Aargh... too late. They're listed as out of stock. But that was the Max version, the AG551. As there's just the two of us, I've put in an order for the regular version, the AG301, which is discounted down from £199 to £179.

Thanks for the heads up Mrs P :thumbsup:
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: rogerzilla on 17 August, 2022, 05:08:11 pm: Why is it an air fryer, but a tumble drier?
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 17 August, 2022, 05:12:01 pm: Because a tumble frier would spill hot food all over the floor.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Kim on 17 August, 2022, 06:06:13 pm: And because an 'air drier is for drying your 'air.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: T42 on 21 August, 2022, 11:05:30 am: Yebbut I can imagine a new method of cooking whereby small pieces of veg, meat, etc. were tumbled in hot air in a mist of oil droplets.

Drawbacks: it'd probably be a bastard to clean. And under certain conditions of droplet/air concentration and temperature it could explode.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Kim on 21 August, 2022, 02:32:40 pm: Isn't that basically how they make cronflakes?
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: slope on 21 August, 2022, 02:45:32 pm: Quote from: T42 on 21 August, 2022, 11:05:30 am
Yebbut I can imagine a new method of cooking whereby small pieces of veg, meat, etc. were tumbled in hot air in a mist of oil droplets.

Drawbacks: it'd probably be a bastard to clean. And under certain conditions of droplet/air concentration and temperature it could explode.

Quote from: Kim on 21 August, 2022, 02:32:40 pm
Isn't that basically how they make cronflakes?

That's basically what happens when one 'cooks' curly kale 'crisps' in the Ninja A301 Foodi Grill - the rather powerful fan just blows the kale pieces all about. Bloody delicious they are too :P
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: T42 on 21 August, 2022, 04:22:53 pm: Quote from: Kim on 21 August, 2022, 02:32:40 pm
Isn't that basically how they make cronflakes?

Could be. I haven't had corns since I was a nipper.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: rafletcher on 07 October, 2022, 02:57:25 pm: Well I’ve decided to try one - and being a boy I’ve gone for the Ninja 15 in 1. There was some logic though, as I do roast whole chickens, and our top oven/grill isn’t quite big enough. When it arrives I’ll have to fettle a raising of the pan cupboard shelf to house it, our kitchen being way to small and lacking in countertop to accommodate it being out all the time. And it’ll have to stand on the cooker top as that’s the only place with enough headroom to open the lid. A bit of a chore, but I’ll mainly be cooking relative bulk for the freezer so will manage.

Anyone tried pressure cooking pulses in one? Chana daal can get a bit frothy!
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Ham on 07 October, 2022, 07:07:08 pm: Quote from: Kim on 21 August, 2022, 02:32:40 pm
Isn't that basically how they make cronflakes?

Only if they can schedule it
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 07 October, 2022, 08:40:54 pm: Quote from: rafletcher on 07 October, 2022, 02:57:25 pm
Well I’ve decided to try one - and being a boy I’ve gone for the Ninja 15 in 1. There was some logic though, as I do roast whole chickens, and our top oven/grill isn’t quite big enough. When it arrives I’ll have to fettle a raising of the pan cupboard shelf to house it, our kitchen being way to small and lacking in countertop to accommodate it being out all the time. And it’ll have to stand on the cooker top as that’s the only place with enough headroom to open the lid. A bit of a chore, but I’ll mainly be cooking relative bulk for the freezer so will manage.

Anyone tried pressure cooking pulses in one? Chana daal can get a bit frothy!

Chickpeas come out fine. I'd imagine the pressure would keep any froth down, but soak and rinse them well first. Enjoy, I really like my Foodie (the 9-on-1 had enough features for me), use it all the time now, and make a lot of use of the pressure cooker function.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 07 October, 2022, 09:46:18 pm: Quote from: rafletcher on 07 October, 2022, 02:57:25 pm
Well I’ve decided to try one

Cool; welcome to the gang 8)
Good luck with all the kitchen jiggerypokery.

Quote from: rafletcher on 07 October, 2022, 02:57:25 pm
Anyone tried pressure cooking pulses in one? Chana daal can get a bit frothy!

Yeah, I do lentils, beans of various sorts and chickpeas. No froth incidents yet. I think I've read somewhere that adding a bit of oil can help reduce the frothing if you find that's an issue.

In case it's useful, there are lots of websites around with tables of beany cooking times for the instant pot and these will translate across to the Ninja. (https://sharonpalmer.com/how-to-use-an-instant-pot-to-cook-pulses/ as an example after a quick google.)
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 October, 2022, 07:57:13 am: Air fryers get the thumbs down from Jay Rayner.
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2022/oct/09/chips-in-an-air-fryer-they-are-dull-dry-and-very-sad-as-am-i
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 10 October, 2022, 10:31:06 am: Mr Jay Pitter appears to be seriously overcrowding his basket.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 October, 2022, 10:39:12 am: I like the "stage door" reflection in the second photo. Where did they take those pictures?

Quote from: nikki on 10 October, 2022, 10:31:06 am
Mr Jay Pitter appears to be seriously overcrowding his basket.
Write in and tell him! Also, Pitter?
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: nikki on 10 October, 2022, 11:49:58 am: Haha! Jay Pitter is a kick-ass urban design / placemaker type and would definitely rtfm on an air fryer or recipe before publicly dissing it! (I hope!)

Correction: Jay Rayner appears to be seriously overcrowding his basket.

Good spot on the stage door sign: Dan Rayner appears to not be checking his photos very carefully. Family trait?
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: rafletcher on 10 October, 2022, 01:50:56 pm: Quote from: nikki on 10 October, 2022, 10:31:06 am
Mr Jay Pitter appears to be seriously overcrowding his basket.

He does seem to lack any basic understanding of hot air circulation requirements,
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 10 October, 2022, 02:33:02 pm: Indeed, in any other cookery context, stuff that crowded won't cook properly either.

I think he's right about the chips though, you can make reasonable crispy potato products in an air fryer, but you can't replicate proper fried chips or a perfect straight out of the hot oil – crisp on the outside and soft on the inside – falafel.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: slope on 10 October, 2022, 02:44:45 pm: Quote from: ian on 10 October, 2022, 02:33:02 pm
I think he's right about the chips though, you can make reasonable crispy potato products in an air fryer, but you can't replicate proper fried chips or a perfect straight out of the hot oil – crisp on the outside and soft on the inside

This is truth, but I'd insert very good in place of reasonable
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 October, 2022, 02:49:21 pm: I'm quite capable of producing soggy chips in oil. I've done it many times. I find that the results with the air fryer are much more consistent and, on the whole, probably better than my efforts with a chip pan.

Mined ewe, we long since consigned our chip pan to history after some close-run pyrotechnics.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 10 October, 2022, 03:26:07 pm: Quote from: nikki on 10 October, 2022, 11:49:58 am
Haha! Jay Pitter is a kick-ass urban design / placemaker type and would definitely rtfm on an air fryer or recipe before publicly dissing it! (I hope!)
Mr Jay Pitter isn't a mister!
http://www.jaypitter.com

No mention that I could find of how smaller cooking devices can be leveraged to rethink kitchen design, enabling more domestic space for important activities such as (<bike maintenance>.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Kim on 10 October, 2022, 07:54:41 pm: Quote from: rafletcher on 10 October, 2022, 01:50:56 pm
Quote from: nikki on 10 October, 2022, 10:31:06 am
Mr Jay Pitter appears to be seriously overcrowding his basket.

He does seem to lack any basic understanding of hot air circulation requirements,

But demonstrates some understanding of posing things for photographs...
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 24 February, 2023, 05:33:38 pm: I heard these referred to today as oil-less fryers. That's the term used by SEB, the firm behind Tefal and a host of other kitchen brands. They're also making "oil-less fryers" which include a grill, and some which have two compartments to operate two programmes at once. Apparently this category is growing even faster than coffee machines!
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Canardly on 24 February, 2023, 10:15:34 pm: Our double oven has become a bit redundant really. Most things are either air fried or MW these days with the oven being relegated to keep warm duties. The Wok is turned out fairly regularly also.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: fruitcake on 24 February, 2023, 10:34:12 pm: Can't comment on air fryers, or 'air dryers, but a halogen oven* makes very nice roasted parsnips: butter some parsnips, put them in the halogen oven for a while, enjoy their crispy salty outsides, soft sweet middles. Parsnips are the next big thing, I tell you. At least until tomatoes become available again.

* It's like a big see-through air fryer (https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=halogen+oven&iax=images&ia=images).
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 19 October, 2023, 06:05:24 pm: I've got a hundred quid Amazon gift card from work burning a hole in my pocket and am trying resist buying a multi cooker. (Pingu will probably grumble if I buy another gadget...) :-[
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 20 October, 2023, 09:38:25 pm: Still use our ninja at least once or twice a week.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Pingu on 20 October, 2023, 11:27:41 pm: Quote from: Mrs Pingu on 19 October, 2023, 06:05:24 pm
I've got a hundred quid Amazon gift card from work burning a hole in my pocket and am trying resist buying a multi cooker. (Pingu will probably grumble if I buy another gadget...) :-[

Consider me grumbled.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 21 October, 2023, 07:12:36 pm: OK, I have another stupid question. I see recipes for cooking tough cuts of meat in the pressure cooker (e.g. pork cheeks) and they all seem to suggest pressure cooking the recipe but then spending a while after that reducing the sauce which seems a bit of a faff. Can't these recipes be made with less liquid to begin with (or do you end up burning the sauce then the water makes the steam)?

(Before you say it, I currently braise the pork cheeks for hours in the oven. I've tried doing them on the Brod & Taylor slow cook function and they were meh, so I'm not really interested in doing them by slow cooker again).
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 21 October, 2023, 08:03:39 pm: The pressure cooker needs a fair amount of liquid otherwise it beeps plaintively and refuses to cook. Don’t ask me how it knows but you can’t fool it.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Legs on 25 October, 2023, 04:25:06 pm: I'm going to try air-frying Babybel in breadcrumbs tonight. :demon:
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: neilrj on 26 October, 2023, 08:34:03 pm: Quote from: Legs on 25 October, 2023, 04:25:06 pm
I'm going to try air-frying Babybel in breadcrumbs tonight. :demon:

Take the wax off first to reduce the fire risk...
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: L CC on 27 October, 2023, 08:31:00 am: Quote from: neilrj on 26 October, 2023, 08:34:03 pm
Quote from: Legs on 25 October, 2023, 04:25:06 pm
I'm going to try air-frying Babybel in breadcrumbs tonight. :demon:

Take the wax off first to reduce the fire risk...

It's been 2 days and no further posts from Legs. Should we be concerned?
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ian on 27 October, 2023, 10:01:07 pm: Wax?
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Legs on 01 November, 2023, 01:24:58 pm: Oh sorry, folks, I didn't realise you were waiting for an update! Yup, I got Legs Minimus to take the wax off and help me roll the ickle cheeses in flour, dunk in egg, roll in herby breadcrumbs (from homemade loaf), repeat dunk in egg, repeat roll in breadcrumbs. I did them for 10 minutes at 180 degrees and they were just starting to haemorrhage their cheesy goo when I took them out. The family proclaimed them a very satisfying amuse-bouche. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Legs on 03 November, 2023, 12:22:23 pm: Pimientos de Padrón are simplicity itself in the air-fryer and absolutely <chef's kiss>. It's much cleaner than my old way of frying them in olive oil in my cast-iron griddle pan and carries much lower risk or first- or second-degree burns from spitting oil...
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: vorsprung on 03 November, 2023, 12:45:54 pm: we have two cooker gadgets: an instant pot and a Remoska

most of our evening meals (for 2) are done in the Remoska now
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on 27 November, 2023, 01:43:44 pm: My flat has a tiny galley kitchen. It has a built in full size oven which I do use for two people. When the kitchen is renovated I seriously am considering no over and having an air fryer.
To try one out I fancy the Tesco Go Cook air fryer at 48 quid. Single basket 4 litres

My question is will this be fine or should I go for a two basket Ninja Foodie. Drawbacks there being cost and counter space used.

As an aside, the built in microwave has failed over the years. Have replaced with a countertop micorwave costing 30 quid
Similarly built in fridge freezer failed and replaced with standalone unit. Same for washing machine.
So i am not a great fan of built in appliances.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: andrewc on 27 November, 2023, 01:57:00 pm: I bought this air fryer a few months ago & have only used my oven a couple of times since , for shop bought pizzas as they won't fit in the air fryer.

https://www.costco.co.uk/Appliances/Small-Kitchen-Appliances/Cooking-Specialty/Gourmia-67L-Digital-Air-Fryer/p/6487

It's available from other places for higher prices . I've cooked steak, chops, chicken portions, half a duck, sausages all using the air fry setting. There is a special setting for Bacon! It's a little noisy but not annoyingly so. Easy to clean. It comes with a rack so you can double layer food. I've yet to try baking with it.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: rafletcher on 27 November, 2023, 03:27:38 pm: Quote from: ScumOfTheRoad on 27 November, 2023, 01:43:44 pm
My flat has a tiny galley kitchen. It has a built in full size oven which I do use for two people. When the kitchen is renovated I seriously am considering no over and having an air fryer.
To try one out I fancy the Tesco Go Cook air fryer at 48 quid. Single basket 4 litres

My question is will this be fine or should I go for a two basket Ninja Foodie. Drawbacks there being cost and counter space used.

As an aside, the built in microwave has failed over the years. Have replaced with a countertop micorwave costing 30 quid
Similarly built in fridge freezer failed and replaced with standalone unit. Same for washing machine.
So i am not a great fan of built in appliances.

You could consider a free standing stove as a replacement for your built in oven. To maintain counter space (I assume you currently also have a hob) choose either one with an induction hob, or one with a gas hob and fold down cover.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on 27 November, 2023, 04:01:53 pm: Thankyou. I am considerign an induction hob because
a) Mrs Scum has mobility difficulties - though has never had any problems with the gas hob
b) I lived in Denmark briefly and everyone has an induction hob

Then again I do like cooking with the controlability of gas.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: rafletcher on 27 November, 2023, 06:38:06 pm: It’s not a fine a control as gas, as the power is still stepped, but it’s pretty good.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Kim on 28 November, 2023, 01:23:56 pm: Yeahbut there isn't the lag that you get with gas. And you can deliver so much more heat than with gas, which is a game-changer for stir-fry. To say nothing of it being wipe-clean and not filling the house with NO_x and water vapour.
Title: Re: air fryers and multicookers
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 28 November, 2023, 02:07:26 pm: Quote from: Kim on 28 November, 2023, 01:23:56 pm
Yeahbut there isn't the lag that you get with gas. And you can deliver so much more heat than with gas, which is a game-changer for stir-fry. To say nothing of it being wipe-clean and not filling the house with NO_x and water vapour.
I completely agree with these points, especially the wipe-clean ability. But I very rarely do stir fry.