It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.
It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.
It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.
And let me guess.... it's only got 78 'last' hills, then all downhill from there? :P
It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.
And let me guess.... it's only got 78 'last' hills, then all downhill from there? :P
BTW Deano...them Google Images...which one is yourself ;D
If people feel we need a longer route to add miles, there's an alternative route up Sutton Bank ;)
On average it's downhill
Yes indeedy.
No, I get up ok, eventually.
Yes indeedy.
No, I get up ok, eventually.
You were in front of me all the way up Perpetual Hill ;) on Friday night. :)
Hello mcshroom! Do you like cake?
Can I sign up for this please. I've not booked it with the boss yet, but I enjoyed Friday night's ride to Scarborough so much that I'm definitely coming.
Explaining it may be a little difficult - non cyclists don't seem to understand the idea of night rides. However, as my son put it to his mother before the York - Scarborough night ride: "It's OK, Mum - no way can Dad be having an affair. If he was - he'd never dream up an excuse that weird... its just got to be true" ::-)
i've put it on the calendar in black ink. :)
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.
:'(
I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike. Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.
It would've been perfect.
Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.
:'(
I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike. Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.
It would've been perfect.
Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.
Whats the Dec 11th ride?
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.
:'(
I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike. Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.
It would've been perfect.
Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.
Whats the Dec 11th ride?
This one. (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38024.0) Hoping to maintain a near-normal body temperature this time.
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.
:'(
I'm going to list some possible routes to Whitby. There isn't really a way of avoiding hills, although avoiding the Howardian hills might be a good idea.
Route 1 - simplest, using the A169
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169)
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.
I'm going to list some possible routes to Whitby. There isn't really a way of avoiding hills, although avoiding the Howardian hills might be a good idea.
Route 1 - simplest, using the A169
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169)
I'd always planned to use the A169 - it'll be deserted in the middle of the night (not that it's an especially busy road). The only alternatives are going via Scarborough and the A171, which seems a bit daft, or going through the lanes. I could guide us through, but it'd be lunacy to go through Rosedale or over Wheeldale Moor in the middle of the night...
Your route to Pickering looks fine - I don't know that area too well.
Sorry you can't make it, LG :(
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.
:'(
Oooh! I wonder if the NYMR would be more open to a trike on the train.
I looked in Poundland too! Not bought anything yet, but I will...
Should I mention it over on Cyclechat? Might garner a few more interestees....
Does anyone know of an early-opening cafe in Whitby, or are we all going to pile into CrinklyLion's friend's house?
I also have parking near to train station.
I've checked trains from Whitby and Scarborough, and looks like you are right Tim. No trains running, dammit.
btw, we've been asked not to use the FRNttC nomiker, 'cause it ain't anything to do with the chap who organises the original friday night rides.
I can't remember if it's been mentioned, and am too lazy to check ;), do we have an approximate milage for the ride out?
oh, and company on the steam train, and ensuing last cycling leg, would be most welcome. I promise not to come over all Celia Johnson in the refreshment room.
No trains from Scarborough on Sat, Aidan. All bus replacements.
I think I'd have to take the same option as Jogler. Some of my family might come over to Whitby for the day, but I'm not sure if my bike will fit in the car.
I've been talking to folk on the Velo Vision forum, and the word is that the cyclepath surface between Whitby and Scarborough is dreadful in places....
I've been talking to folk on the Velo Vision forum, and the word is that the cyclepath surface between Whitby and Scarborough is dreadful in places....
From stuff mentioned upthread - it's worth noting if there are Malton->York trains then Pickering-Malton is 8 miles and dead flat to boot.
Thanks for the second opinion.Looks like the 1825 or 1844 then from York to allow some slack for "latent issues"
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo. £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby. It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo. £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby. It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo. £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby. It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!
Well, I've had a reply from NYMR - it simply says that bicycles or tricycles can be carried, in the guards van, subject to space being available, at a cost of £2. (it looked like a bit of a cut and paste answer to me). So I guess that's a yes then. If there are many of us, we just make sure we're at the station early enough to beat any other prospective cycling passengers to the van.
I did ask if I needed to make a reservation, but they haven't said anything specific, so I assume it's ok to just buy a ticket on the day. I know it's Goth weekend - are Goths likely to be inundating the local steam railway? Or is 'Goth'/'Steam Enthusiast' one of those Venn diagrams with very little overlap?
Nae harm in over-preparing - I'm much more laissez-faire, so I'm pleased to have someone around who complements that!
I'd hope you can all get on one or other of the steam trains, as otherwise I'd be worried about how people are getting back to York.
Well, if the worst came to the worst...
We'll all have bikes with us... ;)
Aye, but from Whitby to York would mean going down Carlton Bank. Mind you, that's not an especially soft option.
We probably are talking about the same place - I imagined riding along Eskdale, through Ingleby Greenhow, up Clay Bank and the Bilsdale road to Chop Gate, then going down Carlton Bank and down to York through Thirsk. If you went around through Great Broughton and up Carlton Bank, you'd be doubling back on yourself. Either way, it adds about 25 miles to the ride to York, so only a hardened nutter would be going back that way!
it adds about 25 miles to the ride to York, so only a hardened nutter would be going back that way!
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)
Nah - it's just a bike ride, out to get a nice cuppa by the seaside. Isn't it? And Deano assures us that it isn't very hilly at all.
It's going to be fun, isn't it? I like fun :)
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)
Nah - it's just a bike ride, out to get a nice cuppa by the seaside. Isn't it? And Deano assures us that it isn't very hilly at all.
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen, this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before. Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning. And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?
I'm thinking of joining you on this ride ......... :thumbsup:
My problem is getting back to York with my trike as the BR trains are not running.
The problem is that beyond ~70 miles, my knees give out.
Luck ............ :D
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen, this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before. Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning. And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen, this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before. Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning. And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?
that would be cool, CL. If you can find one filled with hunky trawlermen in Aran sweaters playing shanties on sqeezeboxes, that would be best of all...
I'm really tempted to do this ride.
Investigating train opions to get to and from York atm.
Hi all, i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better. :'(
that would be cool, CL. If you can find one filled with hunky trawlermen in Aran sweaters playing shanties on sqeezeboxes, that would be best of all...
Now there's a challenge..... one that I suspect I may fail at. Possibly heroically, or tragi-comically, or something!
We're also considering steam training out of Whitby, if we can think of an interesting route from a station on that line to a currently unspecified nice campsite.
Hi all, i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better. :'(
well, blast. What were you doing, kicking cars?
Hi all, i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better. :'(
Thanks Arch, i'm disappointed. Make sure you take lots of photos!
As things are going at the moment I may well be around to participate in this, so pencil me in Deano.....
P'raps each rider could carry the water they normally would plus enough for a brew for themselves.
How much of this kit we'll need will depend on exactly how many people are planning on doing the ride.
multiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.
How good are you at times tables :P
multiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.
How good are you at times tables :P
I don't have any jerseys with 8 pockets in them.
If it gets much colder on a night that might be a good idea ;Dmultiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.
How good are you at times tables :P
I don't have any jerseys with 8 pockets in them.
Wear 3 or 4 jerseys?
I may have had a little titanium-related accident that ought to come in handy for brewing up... ::-)
My train tickets are booked, so I'm definitely in now. :thumbsup:
Looking unlikely that I'll make this one. Either I'll be away with family or looking after daughter after dental surgery.
For those planning to steam train to Pickering then ride to York - has anybody thought about a route?
My train tickets are booked,
If it helps with getting the cheap tickets, same offer as Scab still stands - if you need somewhere to lurk after getting an earlier train in, or before heading back (assuming I haven't fallen asleep in a hedge somewhere along the way....) just shout. As it's half term I don't have the 'getting home from work' issue on Friday to deal with, although I may be getting home from camping with the biggun instead. We will quite likely have a plenty of YACFers round ours at some point over the weekend, I reckon :)My train tickets are booked,
I really should get a roundtoit
I have no cub-style toys left though :)
I bow to your superior knowledge Arch.I'll follow you :thumbsup:
I've found a route on Bikely that went through Pickering and York - and chopped out the extra bit. Going the wrong way, but I'm sure other people better at these things than me can sort that out!
So, does this Bicycle Path - york-pickering at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/466344) make sense as a route? Or is there a better way?
I've found a route on Bikely that went through Pickering and York - and chopped out the extra bit. Going the wrong way, but I'm sure other people better at these things than me can sort that out!
So, does this Bicycle Path - york-pickering at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/466344) make sense as a route? Or is there a better way?
Looks pretty good, although I'd be tempted to ride straight on at the cross-roads near Welburn and come through Foston and Thornton-le-Clay. It would then avoid the 1:7 just after Bulmer.
The glow sticks I bought seem a bit crap, but they'll do the job for one night only, so I'll grab a couple more packs. I couldn't bear to get any more Halloween-related tat, so you'll have to decorate your own bikes.
I figure I'll just turn up and bleed everywhere. I seem to be getting good at that.
I bought a witches nose today, specially for this! ;D
Only just seen this thread, and I've got the first of the seasons lurgies, but is there any room for a "possible" ?
Having me on the trip means anyone else is spared the embarrasment of being last....;-)
Tell them about the night ride aspect, CL, and they might respect us for being as nutty as they are about our chosen hobby...
Or take them one of your cakes....
Tell them about the night ride aspect, CL, and they might respect us for being as nutty as they are about our chosen hobby...
Or take them one of your cakes....
That could be a winning strategy. If all else fails, CL can distract them with CAKE while we sneak all the [b|tr]ikes on.
Given sufficient CAKE...
Or, you bake a giant hollow cake and conceal the bikes within it. Cakes are luggage, and therefore allowed on trains. :thumbsup:
Only just seen this thread, and I've got the first of the seasons lurgies, but is there any room for a "possible" ?
Having me on the trip means anyone else is spared the embarrasment of being last....;-)
We'll make a hell of a sight at the station, even for a Friday night.
Oh dear.
Oh dear.
the mask or my singing?
One of these
Foska Bones Vest - Only £25.00 - Rutland Cycling (http://www.rutlandcycling.com/14639/Foska-Bones-Vest.html?referrer=froogle1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid14639)
or similar would go well with the mask ;D
It will be close enough to Halloween for such nonsense to perhaps be "appreciated" dontyathink :)
I think that'll be too warm, Arch. You need another jersey.
... She's a bit nervous about night-riding, as she's never done it before, ...
Acksherly, coz I iz such a sensible growed up person, I told her that I was sure that there would be other night rides next year, where more of the ride would be in daylight and that might be less lumpy, if she was really really nervous about it.There will be other night rides next year. I am talking about 'From Dusk 'til Dawn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBay_1dKK8) next summer
There will be other night rides next year. I am talking about 'From Dusk 'til Dawn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBay_1dKK8) next summer
Acksherly, coz I iz such a sensible growed up person, I told her that I was sure that there would be other night rides next year, where more of the ride would be in daylight and that might be less lumpy, if she was really really nervous about it.There will be other night rides next year. I am talking about 'From Dusk 'til Dawn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBay_1dKK8) next summer
When I've got a trike, I'll be able to come on night rides - I like walking at night, everything's all still.
I'll also be toting a brew up kit for a mid ride stop.
I'll need to book a bike space for the return journey from York to Liverpool, if we take the steam train and then ride back to York what time do we anticipate getting there ?
From http://www.atob.org.uk/Bike_Rail.html (http://www.atob.org.uk/Bike_Rail.html)
http://www.northyorkshiremoorsrailway.com/ (http://www.northyorkshiremoorsrailway.com/)
Routes:National Rail Network Interchange Grosmont - Pickering
Gauge: Standard - there are few minor roads on this part of the moor, so the railway could be useful
Folding bikes: tick No restrictions Tandems and tricycles: Unknown
All trains have a guard's van, but space varies, so tandems, tricycles or cycling groups are advised to book in advance. Individual cyclists can usually turn up and travel, subject to space being available. The cycle carriage fee is £2 per day, covering any amount of travel.
Tel: 01751 473799
Re: getting back to York. The 11am from Whitby gets to Pickering at 12.40. Say leaving Pickering at 1 to allow for faffing. The route that CL found on Bikely is 49 km, 30 miles - probably 3 hours worth of riding, depending on headwinds (grrrrr). So I would say back in York 4ish at the earliest, but allowing for tiredness and stops, maybe more like 5? Does that seem right to folk
Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?
The WHR have a dedicated bike wagon. Rower40 (and his railway-fu is strong) phoned in advance to make sure they would fit it to the train we were planning to use, which they promised they would. But they didn't. Where bikes and trains are concerned, anything can and frequently will go wrong.
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ?
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ?
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ?
CrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D
CrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D
Add another one to the plan .......... ;DCrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D
This is my plan, also. ;D
My arrival time in York is currently a bit undetermined, I've got no idea how busy the M25 is going to be on a Friday (fairly busy is my current thinking). I'm going to have to drive from Croydon haf way around the M25, up the M1, the A1(M) and then off the A64 towards York.
Google Maps reckons 4 hours 20 minutes, which I don't believe for a minute. Theoretically that would mean I could leave Croydon at 7-30 and still get to York on time, but somehow I think that would be pushing my luck!
I used to travel from Near Dartford to Sheffield quite frequently and I found that M25(anticlockwise) M11, A14, A1 was the quickest route north on a Friday for me (Obviously add in A64 for York)My arrival time in York is currently a bit undetermined, I've got no idea how busy the M25 is going to be on a Friday (fairly busy is my current thinking). I'm going to have to drive from Croydon haf way around the M25, up the M1, the A1(M) and then off the A64 towards York.
Google Maps reckons 4 hours 20 minutes, which I don't believe for a minute. Theoretically that would mean I could leave Croydon at 7-30 and still get to York on time, but somehow I think that would be pushing my luck!
M25 will be busy, J23A of the M1 will be busy after 2PM also. Best way to get South to North on a Friday is:
M40
M42 (bit of a PITA around the NEC, but the only bad bit on this route) to:
J9 (Tamworth Services)
A5
A38 North
M1
M1/A1 link (don't try the M18, as J2 becomes a pig after a certain time on a Friday)
A64.....
Trust me, I have done this journey (obv not to CL's house) far too many times over the last 5 years.....
Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?
Look, I know no-one believes me, but I have travelled on the NYMR many times and every time there has been a huge guard's van filling most of a carriage. I can't put hand on heart and swear they don't have a small (ie, the normal size on recent slamdoor trains, which itself would take a fair few bikes) one somewhere, but I've never seen it.
Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?
Look, I know no-one believes me, but I have travelled on the NYMR many times and every time there has been a huge guard's van filling most of a carriage. I can't put hand on heart and swear they don't have a small (ie, the normal size on recent slamdoor trains, which itself would take a fair few bikes) one somewhere, but I've never seen it.
I do believe you, but the fretting genes are strong in my maternal line, I just can't help it. 11 years in York, and hanging out with a lot of very laid back people, including some downright hippies, has mellowed me a bit, but it still surfaces sometimes... ;)
I'm sure it would be fine, but it may be polite to inform them that we are intending to put lots of bikes on that service.
I'm not helping am I ;D
If anyone does contact them, then I would suggest phoning rather than email. I know a couple people who volunteer on preserved lines and they aren't exactly tech-savvy
Attendance
Aidan
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat aka The Joker
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Possibles are in grey.
People attending : 12 to 15
People returning via steam train : 7 to 8
I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!
Wondering if I can bodge an LED illuminated turnip lantern onto the bike :)I'm wondering about that to.
Wondering if I can bodge an LED illuminated turnip lantern onto the bike :)I'm wondering about that to.
I also thinking luminous paint for my spare hand ............ :demon:
..... completely grue......
I also thinking luminous paint for my spare hand ............ :demon:
Heyyyyy.....Zaphod........ :D
Attendance
Aidan
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat aka The Joker
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Possibles are in grey.
People attending : 12 to 15
People returning via steam train : 8 to 9
I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!
*If I get the earlier train it's £20 more, so I'll find somewhere to rest and have dinner.
Attendance
Aidan (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Possibles are in grey.
People attending : 12 to 15
People returning via steam train : 9 to 10
I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.Remind me, is home Driffield? I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?
Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry. :( Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.Remind me, is home Driffield? I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?
Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry. :( Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.Remind me, is home Driffield? I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?
Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry. :( Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.
Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry. :( Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(
Remind me, is home Driffield? I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?
So, are yuo coming along to this caper?
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle. I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!
That's a pity, jogler. There'll hopefully be another series next year, though.
(even if they won't be as much fun as this one).
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle. I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!Thats the plan .......... ;D
Actually, should we make sure that everyone has a mob no or two of other people going in case of last minute no-shows and/or getting lost?
Actually, should we make sure that everyone has a mob no or two of other people going in case of last minute no-shows and/or getting lost?
This, copies of the route and a reasonable certainty that nobody's planning to form a high-speed recumbent splinter group are all excellent ideas that I heartily endorse.
I dunno... to quote Tiermat on most of the downhills on the way to Scab, "Look out! The armchair's escaping!"
Ah, yes. Downhill.
I make up for it (or whatever the opposite of that is), on the ups...
Ah, yes. Downhill.
I make up for it (or whatever the opposite of that is), on the ups...
Yeah, that's pretty much my recumbenteering style too. 50 tonnes of not-especially-aerodynamic German overengineering is offically A Bit Quick on the downs, merely reasonable on the flat and the less said about the ups the better...
Crashes well though ::-)
I defy anyone to get themselves lost!
I defy anyone to get themselves lost!
Now - is that a challenge you've set me... ?
Trying to sort things at work to come - I should know by tomorrow
My speed is steady-ish, ~12-13mph rolling average without the trailer.
I would like to do silly fast, but I need too many wheels to do that.
If I could workout how to work both front and back brakes with one hand safely, I may give fast two wheel bents a go.
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle. I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!Thats the plan .......... ;D
I may need to grab a couple of hour sleep before driving upto Hexham on the saturday evening.
But that depends on what time we get back to York and how knackered I am.
I have had a thought about the brew up, as we are going along the A169, doesn't that go straight past the campsite @ Pickering? If so wouldn't it be worth seeing if we could stash the tea making equipment there, or is that too far into the ride for a brew?
I just ordered some cycling longs.
Not winter weight ones though. I mean, that would be silly.
edit-I sent a PM to (I think) everybody who might be parking/lurking/carb loading/defrosting and recovering at ours with how to find us. If I missed you off, shout!
...I'm just going to carry a stove with me. As someone suggested above, people can carry their own water for a brew-up.
I've just remembered to book Talisker into the cattery for a couple of nights!
...or teach him to balance on the boom of a recumbent, broomstick-style.
Oooh, now *that's* an idea. :D
Obviously what's really needed is a wood-effect Bacchetta Giro. "Pretending to be a witch" is a legitimate reason for n+1, isn't it?
Spurn Point would bebleakgood.
We don't have to ride to the coast every time, either.
Playing around with BikeHike I think you could do a fairly decent ride from Liverpool* out to the Welsh coast at Conwy or Llandundo. Easy train back to Liverpool via Chester.
Playing around with BikeHike I think you could do a fairly decent ride from Liverpool* out to the Welsh coast at Conwy or Llandundo. Easy train back to Liverpool via Chester.
Those trains are somewhat lacking in room for bicycles, though, as we discovered on the Electric Mountain Ride (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36983.75). There's a cubbyhole that has enough room for a lightly-loaded Streetmachine (so maybe enough room for a couple of road bikes and a Brompton). Charlotte ended up strapping the Red Baron in the corridor, which worked fairly well, but only because it was low and narrow, and the train staff were in a good mood - I don't think you'd get away with doing that with a more conventionally-shaped bike.
Bikes, trains and Wales are rarely a good combination, it seems.
Which knee?
Does it have scars?
just checked XCwether and forecast for Friday is mild (not dropping below 10C), no rain and wind from the south (between 12 and 18mph), so should be a good ride....
Must order ticket for NA to YRK
just checked XCwether and forecast for Friday is mild (not dropping below 10C), no rain and wind from the south (between 12 and 18mph), so should be a good ride....
Must order ticket for NA to YRK
If that forecast is correct I'll look out for the dancing elephants and the flying pigs... ;)
I'm on the same train down as the Scarborough ride - gets into York 10:57? so I may see you on the train. This time I'll try not to send my bike first class...
If all else fails I have full AA cover anyway, so I can always drag them out to get me wherever I'm going. :)
A double arrow hill is going to be interesting going down in the dark. Make sure your brakes are working people.
I'll only be using the one pannier, so can't carry too much stuff.
I was going to buy some overshoes, but didn't get round to it, and a sudden financial uncertainty from last week means I'm loathe to spend more just now. I may wear some long socks, and perhaps improvise some wooly overshoes from some cheap socks that I can cut holes in for the cleats. I seem to remember that once we were in the hilly stuff last time, my feet were perfectly warm.
I'll only be using the one pannier, so can't carry too much stuff.
There is now a possibility that I will not be able to attend.When I know for sure I will post again.
The Weather is looking a little indifferent at the moment, although the forecast is liable to change up to the last moment!(http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/WhitbyForecastLateOct2010.png)
(Forecast for Whitby from XCWeather (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/Whitby)).
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks).
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks).
That looks alright to me - damp, but mild and with a tailwind. Two outta three ain't bad.
Still, it's far too early to trust these things.
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks). I suspect abandoning on this ride is going to be a lot harder than it was on the FNRttC, given the lack of running trains.
... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.
... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.
Hmmm. In that case the best bet would be to go to Whitby and go back to York via Middlesborough. Takes forever, but you'd have no riding at all once you'd limped down to the NYMR.... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.
Hmmm. In that case the best bet would be to go to Whitby and go back to York via Middlesborough. Takes forever, but you'd have no riding at all once you'd limped down to the NYMR.... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.
Yes, it's the emergency option, and it's also damned expensive.
Whitby 8-52 to Middlesborough 10-18.
Middlesborough 10-24 to Darlington 10-54
Darlington 11-03 to York 11-32
Which takes 2 hours 40 minutes, and £24-80 is the cheapest fare. If cost is a problem then you can do it for £11, but you have to wait until 16-05 to leave!
Any chance of getting a bit of a roll-call of who is heading round to ours, with some kind of idea of times?
I know Tigerbiten is heading this way sort of early evening-ish, and lots of other people at various other points.
Tiermat, you may be interested to know that we have some cafetiere-ground (freshly done today) monsoon malabar in the fridge. I don't know if this will influence your decision....
there's no cigarette lighter fitted to the car
...than 4 hours on occasion - although she has also taken 8 hours once.
Tiermat, you may be interested to know that we have some cafetiere-ground (freshly done today) monsoon malabar in the fridge. I don't know if this will influence your decision....
Right, the cub and I are finally heading off for our somewhat abridge camping trip. Don't know what signal I'll get, so I may drop off the radar til tomorrow. Will check back in when I get back tomorrow lunchtime. See you all tomorrow.
oooo getting jittery now about this, as I always do on the run up to such things. The fact I am not working this week is not helping AT ALL.....
Arch - can you guide us out of York? I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.
Arch - can you guide us out of York? I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.
I'm pretty sure I'll be coming, and it's an easy route. Getting out of york is the most complex bit, and three of us know that so well we'll probably fall asleep.
The turn off past Gate Helmsley is signposted for buttercrambe, then it is straight on until Malton.
I'm a now a probable.
Are there any southern delicacies that I can bring up for anyone? ;D
Arch - can you guide us out of York? I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.
I'm pretty sure I'll be coming, and it's an easy route. Getting out of york is the most complex bit, and three of us know that so well we'll probably fall asleep.
Nah, we're alright. York's first Waitrose opened today!
Have a brill time tonight all. I wish I could be there!
the big shiny flange will not be making an appearence
but I will make sure we get plenty of photos.
My Dave Yates will shortly be adorned with a glowing green skull, and I may be taking my White Zombie T to wear when we get to Whitby.
I never quite recovered from Safeway going bust and (due to the high Morrisons density of the area) the one local to us in Sheffield turning into a Waitrose. At least they still sold Henderson's.Safeway didn't go bust. Was taken over by Morrisons, and some stores had to be sold on due to competition considerations.
Is there anywhere along the way which is going to be suitable to stop for a brew, or is at least out of the wind?
The cold doesn't worry me, I was thinking more of the fact that the wind might be driving light drizzle into us, which could feel a little unpleasant. That sort of thing is surprisingly tolerable when you're cycling, but less comfortable when standing around waiting for a cup of tea or coffee.Even heavy-ish rain is ok-ish, as long as you are working hard enough to keep warm.
Windy as hell up here. ;D
Packing the car and trying to remember what I've forgotten .......... :P
I reckon it's Deano's decision, when we get there, to decide exactly where to stop. As Ride Leader (he started the thread!) he makes the executive decisions. The rest of us just follow him like sheep. ;D
FNRttS experience suggests that brewing up after the climb works well, as the kettle can boil while slower people tackle the hill. That does require a convenient stopping place, though.
Sounds good. We can have a lighting competition; see whose lights will reach all the way across the Hole.FNRttS experience suggests that brewing up after the climb works well, as the kettle can boil while slower people tackle the hill. That does require a convenient stopping place, though.
..hence my suggestion of stopping at the car park at Hole of Horcum. Top of Saltersgate Bank. 'Tis a bit exposed if it's windy or rainy, otherwise perfect. About 30 miles into the route, so a little over halfway.
Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg740923#msg740923)
a banananananaaaaaa and ginger loaf cake in the oven, and some chocolatey oaty cookies are in the process of being made.....
By the way, I have cheese & onion flapjack (or just cheese, for those not of an onion-y disposition).
I've just given my upwrong a much-needed clean and fettle. It hasn't had any proper attention since the Exmouth Exodus, and it showed.
Mordor Central being York? or <shudder> Pickering?
this isnt going to happen for me, im still in Coventry its been an intense day and we arent finished yet. My boss has just asked the canteen to bring some sandwiches. Reckon ill be here past 6.00 by the time i get home ill have been on the go for 16 hours or more, and im already knackered. Have agreat ride dont let the goths get you,
Ha! I was just thinking about that on my way home from work. They're packed - though technically you only paid me in January. I should charge rent ;D
You'll have probably lost enough weight that they won't fit these days ;)
We have a Tigerbiten in the CrinklyDen. Well, technically we don't right now since he's gone to the chippy, but you know what I mean :)
Just read this whilst waiting for the train. Bad luck, Kim. See you another time.
It's windy in Durham. Just been hit by a wayward advertising hoarding blown into me broadside on the ride to the station. No damage to me...
Did you ride from pickering and were the winds still bad? I found them very tiring
I want to do this ride from my house but perhaps on a moonlit summer night :)
I decided to trundle back from Whitby by bike, fancied a go at getting back up Blue Bank. Arrived home at 1pm, very tired - that's the first 100miles I've done in a long time. Blue bank turned out to be not that hard; going down it in the dark, it looked like a cliff!.
Headwinds all the way. Hope the steamies get back ok.
I want to do this ride from my house but perhaps on a moonlit summer night :)
Yes , we have to do these again next summer, we can pick you up on the way Pat :thumbsup:
Calling the ones we saw in the cafe "live" might have been pushing it a little, they certainly seemed worse for wear, I think I, with my b0rked knee, was in a better state than they were :)
After Deano and Slowcoach got on the train to Darlo we saw an number of "interesting" goths gathering at 'Boro station to head off to Whitby. I must be getting old, as my thoughts varied from "OMG" to "Would you dare?" The guys with the long black leather trench coat, plastic foam hair extensions and face mask (ala a paint sprayer, but in black leather) was particularly amusing, to my mind at least :)
I am back in the land of the living now, knee and leg have returned to normal operation and I am looking forward to the next night ride, sometime next year.
what seemed to me to be neo-Victorian (something like a cross between traditional Victorian dress and steam punk).
The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..?
And it was the Nigel Greasley you saw? I was looking the other way as we chuffed by, so I missed it, and then heard you mention it. ...
... The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..?
...with decorated roadside Christmas tree (!?!)
The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..?
Trying to live up to my wicked reputation by plying innocent ladies with strong drink.... :demon:
[envious]You bunch of jammy gets. It sounds fantastic. [/envious]+1.
I already have a vague idea of a ride that takes in the three big powerstations south of York.
However, there's one awful bit - the A46 shared bridge over the River Witham between Skellingthorpe and Lincoln is a METRE wide between fence-protecting-bikes-from-fresh-air-then-splosh and fence-protecting-bikes-from-cars. There are width-restricting gates before and after this bridge - so trikes and 'bents may have to find a different route.
Only 49.6 mph.
I already have a vague idea of a ride that takes in the three big powerstations south of York.
Power stations, you say? ;D :thumbsup:
It's called Bernie's Long Flat one. 600 km ;D
[envious]You bunch of jammy gets. It sounds fantastic. [/envious]
Count me in next time. Deano? Please to be arranging another tailwind. We were driving to Scotland in that wind, hoping it was of the right persuasion for your needs that night.
Oh - great photo by the way. Taken by Bunbury, I presume, since he isn't in it?
I thought all hills are gratuitous
It's called Bernie's Long Flat one. 600 km ;D
Sounds like good training for the Bryan Chapman. I'll put it on my list. ;)
fortunately someone waited round the corner and called down a warning about the ambulance with flashing blues and no siren coming towards the junction and so we avoided an emergency vehicle/trike incident when the green light came on and the ambulance jumped its red.
The start at York station
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/5127775245_1bb08c6513_z.jpg)
Here's the hi res (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/5127775245_ccfe289b8e_o.jpg) version.
fortunately someone waited round the corner and called down a warning about the ambulance with flashing blues and no siren coming towards the junction and so we avoided an emergency vehicle/trike incident when the green light came on and the ambulance jumped its red.
That was me! I tried to flash the ambulance driver with my front light, but I'm glad you heard the shout.
That was me! I tried to flash the ambulance driver with my front light, but I'm glad you heard the shout.
I missed you lot - Saturday morning at 1100 I was still fast asleep.
I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!
I heartily recommend tandem-stoking for the potential to ignore hills/traffic/scary big roads etc by the way. Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared :thumbsup:
Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared :thumbsup:
I've tried stoking, and hated it. And the captain quickly gets fed up with all the 'watch out!' and screaming.Nah - you just need to find the right captain ;D
Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared :thumbsup:
This method can also be used for high-speed darkside descending, with varying degrees of success ;)
I heartily recommend the Stokerised by WowbaggerTM experience for nervous stokers. The Thorn has a certain imponderable stateliness, and has been witnessed balancing uphill at a dizzying rather less than 2mph without falling over.
tom_e, I do believe, used a variant of it i.e. 'realise that your lights aren't as powerful as the road is steep' on Blue Bank thus showing his faith in the council's highway maintenance department at very nearly 50mph :o
Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared :thumbsup:
This method can also be used for high-speed darkside descending, with varying degrees of success ;)
tom_e, I do believe, used a variant of it i.e. 'realise that your lights aren't as powerful as the road is steep' on Blue Bank thus showing his faith in the council's highway maintenance department at very nearly 50mph :o
[/b]I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!
So what we cyclists need (or at least those of us who find figments of the imagination to be more of a nuisance than some), is some method of turning the daylight off at will, in order not to be able to see what we imagine is ahead. And then to turn it back on at the 'top' of the figment, to see the view.
I suppose closing one's eyes would do, although there might be issues around staying on the carriageway...
Did the drive bear out our therory of the slopes being steeper on the Whitby sides of the hills, than on the Pickering sides?
[/b]I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!
So what we cyclists need (or at least those of us who find figments of the imagination to be more of a nuisance than some), is some method of turning the daylight off at will, in order not to be able to see what we imagine is ahead. And then to turn it back on at the 'top' of the figment, to see the view.
I suppose closing one's eyes would do, although there might be issues around staying on the carriageway...
Did the drive bear out our therory of the slopes being steeper on the Whitby sides of the hills, than on the Pickering sides?
No theory - I'm sure I've mentioned it somewhere on here, and to Arch on the ride. We went the easy way up them there hills.
I heartily recommend tandem-stoking for the potential to ignore hills/traffic/scary big roads etc by the way. Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared :thumbsup:
...and if so, I'd like a word about the design of these knees.
Well indeed. Weather, landscape...
Hang on! Are you God?
I don't know if anyone else caught the local (North East) TV news tonight. Our route was on (looked like the top of Blue Bank). It's a good job we arn't planning to ride it this weekend - the snow looked to be several feet deep across the road :'(