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Title: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 September, 2010, 11:08:14 pm
So?  A daft idea to ride to Whitby on the Hallowe'en weekend, coinciding with the bi-annual Gothic Weekend.

Gothic attire is encouraged, but not compulsory.

Google Images (http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=gothic+weekend+whitby&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=0e-PTJTQO8rT4wbM7N2nDg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDgQsAQwAw&biw=1680&bih=822)

Depart York Station, midnight Friday 29/10/10.
Ride to Whitby - a slightly hilly route across the Moors.  Wrap up well!  We'd do well to find a halfway stop, but I can't think of anywhere 24-hour en route.  Any suggestions welcome!

Probably weather-dependent, but I rarely let that put me off. Who else fancies it?

The suggested route (courtesy of mrcharly):

Bicycle Path - York to Whitby - A169 at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169)

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Returning from Whitby:

1) Catch a train to Middlesbrough and on from there.  Trains depart Whitby at 08.52 and 12.41.  It's a slow train, so it takes an hour and a half to Middlesbrough, and from Middlesbrough, you can catch a train on to wherever.

2) Ride to Scarborough (about 10 miles) and catch a train from there.  A regular service to York, starting at 05.28. Engineering works mean there is a bus replacement service, so bikes will not be permitted.

3) Catch a steam train :D  The NYM railway runs a service across the Moors from Whitby to Pickering, and from there you can ride back to York.  It's almost certainly not the quickest way of doing it, but if you want to make an event of it...

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Cast:

Aidan (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Tom_e

Possibles are in grey.
(http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png) indicates travelling by steam train.

Sag wagon: erm, me.  Bring your own cups.

I'll dash up the road and find a handy bus shelter to brew up in.  I'm gonna need a bigger boat camping stove.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 September, 2010, 11:15:23 pm
Weather and waiting for slowcoaches dependant, yes, assuming that my half term plans don't get terribly complicated!  I don't mind cold or wet, but I don't do icy and hills+serious headwinds could make me an uncomfortably slow companion for anyone who had to wait for me if it was very cold!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 September, 2010, 11:24:19 pm
Tentatively interested, but we're well into Stupid Lungs issues on night rides by then, so could end up being rather slow.  Will have to think about it properly...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 September, 2010, 11:38:24 pm
Is this the same as.....

Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29th October   York to Whitby (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36875.msg695121#msg695121)


Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 September, 2010, 11:41:59 pm
Assumming so I suggest the forum runs with this thread as it seems that Deano has picked up here from where he left off  on the earlier thread :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 September, 2010, 11:43:30 pm
which means I am a YES
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 September, 2010, 11:47:30 pm
Aye, same ride.  I forgot the earlier thread.

All welcome!  Slow, fast, whatever.  If it comes to it, we could split into Group Fast and Group Slow, though I'd hope we can stay together.  It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.

The cold, and lack of shelter, is what's bothering me.  If I can find a suitable spot (such as near Goathland), it might be worth setting up with a camping stove and bacon/soup and tea/coffee, provided it's reasonably sheltered.  Goathland suggests itself, cos of the railway station - there may be a sheltered platform, away from residential areas.  I'll have a think.  I'd need a loyal Igor to guide the group from York while I rode over from Darlo, mind.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 September, 2010, 11:49:36 pm
It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.

And let me guess.... it's only got 78 'last' hills, then all downhill from there?   :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 September, 2010, 11:50:53 pm
 It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.

TFFT ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 September, 2010, 11:53:03 pm
It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.

And let me guess.... it's only got 78 'last' hills, then all downhill from there?   :P

I'll explain it to you when I see you on Friday night.It's something like

"you'll be reet"
 ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 September, 2010, 11:56:33 pm
BTW Deano...them Google Images...which one is yourself ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 September, 2010, 11:58:12 pm
It's nowhere near as hilly as KTTR.

And let me guess.... it's only got 78 'last' hills, then all downhill from there?   :P

No, seriously!  Nowt steep, either, unless we detour to Goathland, in which case we'll all be walking.

That's not the same as saying it's flat, of course.  Blue Bank is probably the highlight, but we go down that.

If people feel we need a longer route to add miles, there's an alternative route up Sutton Bank ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 September, 2010, 11:58:52 pm
BTW Deano...them Google Images...which one is yourself ;D

All of them.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 15 September, 2010, 08:49:26 am
No mates that I can wheedle into providing a halfway stop that spring to mind, but post a route and I'll see if I can think of anyone.  My mate with the holiday cottage in Whitby (spitting distance of the Magpie, btw) said we could go to her for a coffee when we get there.  Don't know if she was entirely serious, but I'll enquire nearer the time!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 15 September, 2010, 01:45:41 pm
We may need somewhere in Whitby - I don't know any early-opening cafes there.  There aren't too many possibilities between York and Whitby, either, but I'll have a think.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 15 September, 2010, 06:43:20 pm
If people feel we need a longer route to add miles, there's an alternative route up Sutton Bank ;)

Chicken - why do Sutton Bank when there is White Horse Bank just around the corner :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 15 September, 2010, 06:49:10 pm
In the middle of the night, you're welcome to it.  One of us'll be back in the morning to clean up the mess ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: hulver on 15 September, 2010, 07:29:25 pm
There's a chance I could meet up with you at a half way point and supply tea / coffee and bacon / egg sandwiches.

I'd be in the car, and have cooking supplies for making hot food and drinks.

My other half is up for going to Whitby for Halloween.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 15 September, 2010, 08:40:27 pm
If you can pull that off Hulver you could end up on a lot of Christmas card lists ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 15 September, 2010, 09:33:44 pm
How kind, hulver!  I'll bear it in mind, but I shan't hold you to it.  At the moment you're the only game in town, as there's nowt 24-hour en route.

Gothic weekender in Whitby, eh?  Dark horses, I tell you ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 15 September, 2010, 09:49:13 pm
...By the way, I've added some suggestions for returning from Whitby to York/wherever to the OP.  Steam trains, anyone? ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 15 September, 2010, 09:52:14 pm
im up for this  extreme weather and other things permitting.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 15 September, 2010, 09:54:16 pm
Oooh, steam!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 16 September, 2010, 10:14:23 am
I don't think I will be able to get a pass for this one, but I think I might well be able to step in if Hulver can't manage to supply the tea wagon....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 16 September, 2010, 10:26:21 am
 I like the prospect of riding a steam train to Pickering & then cycling back to York

EDIT However, at £13: Whitby-Pickering one way adult fare: which is a bit  :o I  am inclined to ride to Scab,10 miles & train from there back to York for somewhat less.
Oh & + £2 for the bike
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 September, 2010, 01:18:57 pm
But it's the Hogwarts express!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 16 September, 2010, 01:47:11 pm
It's £15 for adult & bike on the steam train from Whitby to Pickering.
Then approx 43km ride to York


It's £7.50 on the train,icluding bike,from Scab to York.
Approx 16km ride to Scab from Whitby.

So that's a £7.50 premium to ride a steam train part-way back
 :-\

I think it will be one of those "I'll decide when the time comes depending on my mood" decisions.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 19 September, 2010, 09:23:03 am
But don't forget that a walk-up fare from scab will set you  back 15quid.... so you wouldn't save money unless you decide and book in advance and you would need to time your train out of Scarborough right!

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2010, 09:47:46 am
Oooh!  I wonder if the NYMR would be more open to a trike on the train.  Riding back from Pickering makes it seem more doable.  I might enquire.

'slightly hilly'?  Yeah, I know that sort of 'slightly hilly'....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 19 September, 2010, 11:31:54 am
You shouldn't let the possibility of hills put you off.  On average it's downhill, as there's a massive freewheel into Whitby at the finish.

Besides, I've yet to lose anyone on a ride.  No man person left behind!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2010, 11:49:55 am
On average it's downhill

Yeah, I've heard that before too!  Any ride to the coast is downhill overall...

(I suppose if you started in the Fens and rode to Beachy Head, that wouldn't be true)

No, I get up ok, eventually. What's the mileage likely to be?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 19 September, 2010, 12:09:27 pm


No, I get up ok, eventually.
Yes indeedy.
You were in front of me all the way up Perpetual Hill  ;) on Friday night. :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2010, 12:18:46 pm


No, I get up ok, eventually.
Yes indeedy.
You were in front of me all the way up Perpetual Hill  ;) on Friday night. :)

Long and slow, I do better than short and steep - I lose momentum very quickly.

There was also the advantage of not being able to see the road, so I kept thinking it must end soon....

Grand to come down, that one.  Worth the climb up.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 September, 2010, 01:17:29 pm
I'm going to list some possible routes to Whitby. There isn't really a way of avoiding hills, although avoiding the Howardian hills might be a good idea.

Route 1 - simplest, using the A169

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169) 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 19 September, 2010, 03:26:02 pm
Hi,

Any chance I can join you for this? The reports of this weekends' one look good
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 19 September, 2010, 04:36:41 pm
Hello mcshroom!  Do you like cake?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 19 September, 2010, 04:49:15 pm
I do :) although I did miss out on the cake on the Northern FNRttC somehow (I was offered).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2010, 06:02:24 pm
Hello mcshroom!  Do you like cake?

Does a cyclist like cake?  Does the Pope wear a pointy hat?

The lemon cake made it back ok, by the way, although it's a little more compact than it was due to being rattled about in my bar bag.  I will take it to my sister's - I'm sure Oli won't mind if it's a little bit crumbly.

Back from work now, and I think the sleepiness is finally catching up with me - had to have a quick lie down when I came in. But I think walking was the best plan, to stretch the legs a bit.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 19 September, 2010, 06:20:22 pm
Can I sign up for this please. I've not booked it with the boss yet, but I enjoyed Friday night's ride to Scarborough so much that I'm definitely coming.

Explaining it may be a little difficult - non cyclists don't seem to understand the idea of night rides. However, as my son put it to his mother before the York - Scarborough night ride: "It's OK, Mum - no way can Dad be having an affair. If he was - he'd never dream up an excuse that weird... its just got to be true" ::-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2010, 06:41:28 pm
Can I sign up for this please. I've not booked it with the boss yet, but I enjoyed Friday night's ride to Scarborough so much that I'm definitely coming.

Explaining it may be a little difficult - non cyclists don't seem to understand the idea of night rides. However, as my son put it to his mother before the York - Scarborough night ride: "It's OK, Mum - no way can Dad be having an affair. If he was - he'd never dream up an excuse that weird... its just got to be true" ::-)

 ;D

I think it's just a step further, isn't it. Some people can't understand how you could ride more than 5 miles for fun - hell some people can't imagine any distance for fun. Night rides must be the next level. Even some cyclists who ride for fun, probably don't see the appeal. I certainly do, now.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 19 September, 2010, 06:43:32 pm
Oh, and when I saw my boss today, he asked how it went, and after I'd enthused, he said "so, are you going to do another one?"

"Oh yes", I said "......"

"...in October!"

He seemed not to be very surprised - that's how mad I must seem!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: newtoncap on 20 September, 2010, 03:13:10 pm
Count me in Deano, i've put it on the calendar in black ink.  :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 20 September, 2010, 04:23:00 pm
i've put it on the calendar in black ink.  :)

There's no getting out of it now !!!  ::-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: LindaG on 22 September, 2010, 03:29:23 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :'(

I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike.  Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.

It would've been perfect.

Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 22 September, 2010, 03:58:52 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :'(

I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike.  Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.

It would've been perfect.

Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.


Whats the Dec 11th ride?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: LindaG on 22 September, 2010, 04:01:45 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :'(

I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike.  Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.

It would've been perfect.

Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.


Whats the Dec 11th ride?

This one. (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38024.0)  Hoping to maintain a near-normal body temperature this time.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 22 September, 2010, 04:48:17 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :'(

I was looking forward to wearing makeup on the bike.  Something I never do, because by the end of the ride I look like the Bride of Dracula.

It would've been perfect.

Have a fantastic night, all, and see some of you on the December 11th ride.


Whats the Dec 11th ride?

This one. (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38024.0)  Hoping to maintain a near-normal body temperature this time.

Thanks , missed that somehow!  Have got date in diary :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 September, 2010, 05:40:05 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :'(

 :(  Is it that boring work stuff getting in the way of the very important business of cycling again? 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 23 September, 2010, 04:33:15 pm
I'm going to list some possible routes to Whitby. There isn't really a way of avoiding hills, although avoiding the Howardian hills might be a good idea.

Route 1 - simplest, using the A169

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169) 


I'd always planned to use the A169 - it'll be deserted in the middle of the night (not that it's an especially busy road).  The only alternatives are going via Scarborough and the A171, which seems a bit daft, or going through the lanes.  I could guide us through, but it'd be lunacy to go through Rosedale or over Wheeldale Moor in the middle of the night...

Your route to Pickering looks fine - I don't know that area too well.

Sorry you can't make it, LG :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 23 September, 2010, 05:18:43 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 23 September, 2010, 05:54:17 pm
I'm going to list some possible routes to Whitby. There isn't really a way of avoiding hills, although avoiding the Howardian hills might be a good idea.

Route 1 - simplest, using the A169

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169 (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/York-to-Whitby-A169) 





I'd always planned to use the A169 - it'll be deserted in the middle of the night (not that it's an especially busy road).  The only alternatives are going via Scarborough and the A171, which seems a bit daft, or going through the lanes.  I could guide us through, but it'd be lunacy to go through Rosedale or over Wheeldale Moor in the middle of the night...

Your route to Pickering looks fine - I don't know that area too well.

Sorry you can't make it, LG :(

Route to Pickering is ok.  The bit between Malton and Pickering is busy , but at the time we hit it it will be fine
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: newtoncap on 23 September, 2010, 08:00:23 pm
Oh, dear, it seems I can't make this ride.

 :'(


 :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 27 September, 2010, 04:58:56 am
Oooh!  I wonder if the NYMR would be more open to a trike on the train. 

The NYMR have old huge guard's vans and I cannot imagine that they would not. On the other hand the climb up Blue Bank is spectacular. It is also a complete bastard with a hangover and a touring load after a week's solid debauchery.

I will have arrived in Whitby on the Thursday for the WGW, but might see some of you on the Friday...

I always trog up the A169 from Malton even during the day. Also, if you are trying to minimise cycling on the return journey, picking up a train _from_ Malton to York cuts out a lot of distance.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 27 September, 2010, 10:19:23 am
Honestly, Arch, I think you should try getting your trike on the morning transpennine sometime. I catch that train twice a week during commuter time, and I've seen 6 bikes in the bike space (when there is standing-room only) - the guards are usually pretty accommodating. Might have to turn your trike on it's side, but it wouldn't take up more than two normal bike spaces.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 September, 2010, 09:18:52 pm
I've added a list of likely attendees to the OP.  I've also invested in a bit of Hallowe'en-related tat at Poundland  :-[

Do spread the word about this -  a massive convoy would be good. 

Does anyone know of an early-opening cafe in Whitby, or are we all going to pile into CrinklyLion's friend's house?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 28 September, 2010, 09:53:48 pm
I looked in Poundland too!  Not bought anything yet, but I will...

Should I mention it over on Cyclechat? Might garner a few more interestees....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 September, 2010, 10:20:54 pm
I looked in Poundland too!  Not bought anything yet, but I will...

Should I mention it over on Cyclechat? Might garner a few more interestees....

Aye, do that.  I'm not a member over there.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 28 September, 2010, 11:26:06 pm
I'll attempt to see my mate at some point this week and find out if she was entirely serious about welcoming hordes of smelly lycra-clad nutters for warmth and coffee whilst we wait for cafes to be open.  She's probably a good source of local knowledge about early-openers, if nothing else.  My plan is still to do this, weather permitting - I really don't do icy, because I would fall off my bike as I'm actually a bit crap at cycling!  My mum always said I was the one that would never learn to ride a bike, because my balance and co-ordination was so rubbish.  I guess mums are always right :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 29 September, 2010, 05:52:54 pm
Does anyone know of an early-opening cafe in Whitby, or are we all going to pile into CrinklyLion's friend's house?

Don't quote me on it, but I believe the station cafe opens early - a lot of bikers use it.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 September, 2010, 06:48:22 pm
I'm a bit late to this thread, but tempted by the ride.  I missed the Northern FRNttC, because I gave up on trying to find a train with bicycle spaces at a sensible time.  Looking at the trains for this one, it would also be stupidly expensive, so it's probably cheaper and easier for me to drive to York, and at least justify having a car (which has been used twice this year, and one of those was driving to the MOT!).

Can anyone local suggest how practical it will be to park somewhere in York on Friday evening, until Saturday middayish?

Incidentally, it looks like the Scarborough to York train isn't running on that date, but has been replaced by a bus service, which is likely to baulk at a mass of cyclists trying to get back.  The steam option is looking more and more sensible.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 29 September, 2010, 06:50:44 pm
Tim, you can park on street outside my house.  10 minutes pootle to the station, and may well have a Kim in attendance too :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 September, 2010, 08:51:18 pm
I also have parking near to train station.

I've checked trains from Whitby and Scarborough, and looks like you are right Tim. No trains running, dammit.

btw, we've been asked not to use the FRNttC nomiker, 'cause it ain't anything to do with the chap who organises the original friday night rides.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 29 September, 2010, 09:04:25 pm
We dont use the FNRttC name   we do use the words Friday , night and ride but I don't see anyone has a monopoly on that
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 September, 2010, 09:05:48 pm
I also have parking near to train station.

I've checked trains from Whitby and Scarborough, and looks like you are right Tim. No trains running, dammit.

btw, we've been asked not to use the FRNttC nomiker, 'cause it ain't anything to do with the chap who organises the original friday night rides.

Seems fair.  I take it he doesn't object to the current title, since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?

BTW, there is another public transport back to York, as I mention in the OP: an 8.52 train from Whitby to Middlesbrough, from where you can change for York.  It's much longer (it's an hour and a half journey from Whitby to Boro), but the Eskdale line is lovely, and it may beat cycling, if you're knackered.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 29 September, 2010, 09:09:26 pm
I'll probably ride back.  Or maybes take the NCN route to Scarborough and get the train home. That means I could stop in Robin Hoods bay for a second or third breakfast then :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 29 September, 2010, 09:10:08 pm
I have not yet discarded the notion to ride the steam train to Pickering & then ride back to York from there
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 September, 2010, 09:13:33 pm
No trains from Scarborough on Sat, Aidan. All bus replacements.

I think I'd have to take the same option as Jogler. Some of my family might come over to Whitby for the day, but I'm not sure if my bike will fit in the car.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 September, 2010, 09:16:02 pm
I've been talking to folk on the Velo Vision forum, and the word is that the cyclepath surface between Whitby and Scarborough is dreadful in places....

I've emailed the NYMR to enquire about the trike, although the VV opinion is that trikes and other oddities are fine.  I've also asked if they have a limit on the number of bikes that can be carried*, in case many of us want to return to Pickering...

*Well, I mean they must do, physically, but it would be handy to have some idea of it...

I can't remember if it's been mentioned, and am too lazy to check ;), do we have an approximate milage for the ride out?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 September, 2010, 09:17:12 pm
oh, and company on the steam train, and ensuing last cycling leg, would be most welcome. I promise not to come over all Celia Johnson in the refreshment room.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 September, 2010, 09:24:03 pm
I can't remember if it's been mentioned, and am too lazy to check ;), do we have an approximate milage for the ride out?

78Km with 773m of climbing.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 September, 2010, 09:29:44 pm
It's a damn shame about the Scarborough-York trains being cancelled - looks as though some trains are still operating between Malton and York, which makes it a potentially shorter ride back.

mrcharly, did you see anything about the Whitby-Middlesbrough trains being replaced with buses?  AFAICS it's a normal service.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 September, 2010, 09:31:23 pm
I was expecting to use the steam train route back.  Much as cycling back to York would be possible if all else failed, I'd prefer not to knacker myself out any more than I have to, since I'll have to drive 220 miles at each end of the ride!

I may partake of CrinklyLion's offer of parking, and a cup of tea and some cake prior to the ride.  I suspect that may also mean I would be called upon to transport cake to the ride as well, but I could live with that. <fx: Nom nom nom> ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 September, 2010, 09:33:40 pm
I'm sure people can use the steam trains - but there's a limited capacity, so I was hoping the Scarborough trains would be a good alternative.

Let's see what Arch gets back from the NYM railway - they may have more than just one trike to carry...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 September, 2010, 09:40:50 pm
oh, and company on the steam train, and ensuing last cycling leg, would be most welcome. I promise not to come over all Celia Johnson in the refreshment room.

Unless of course anyone really wants to play Trevor Howard, in which case I will practise my clipped vowels and natty hat wearing.

Deano - if there's more than one recumbentist, we'll just wierd them into taking us....

There seem to be three steamers on the Saturday, but for preference we'd want to get the 11am, to give us as much light as possible for the Pickering-York leg. There is an earlier Northern Rail connecting service to Grosmont - once again, it might be down to sweet talking to get the trike on.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 29 September, 2010, 09:45:23 pm
I'll hopefully be catching the steam train  and cycling back to York.

Also going to have to drive over it looks like as it's £20 cheaper than the trains. For some reason  from Whitehaven I can get to London and back (660 miles) for a Friday night ride cheaper than I can get to York and back (280 miles)???

I'm thinking about just parking somewhere in Acomb unless someone can suggest better.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 29 September, 2010, 09:45:55 pm
No trains from Scarborough on Sat, Aidan. All bus replacements.

I think I'd have to take the same option as Jogler. Some of my family might come over to Whitby for the day, but I'm not sure if my bike will fit in the car.

Thanks, looks like  a ride all the way home, or from Pickering maybe, if only so I get a ride on the Puffer train ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 29 September, 2010, 09:46:48 pm
I've been talking to folk on the Velo Vision forum, and the word is that the cyclepath surface between Whitby and Scarborough is dreadful in places....



Its never been too good
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 September, 2010, 09:46:54 pm
I think the whitby trains are running - I was confused by the offerings on TransportDirect.

8:52 is running.

If my family aren't driving over, I might grab breakfast and wellie it back to York asap.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 29 September, 2010, 09:47:25 pm
I'm thinking steampr0n, but will ride all the way if needs be.  I've done sillier things.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 29 September, 2010, 10:06:19 pm
Pickering to York is approx 45km AIUI.
Not knowing a definitive route or the terrain (uppy-bits IYSWIM) is it reasonable to allow 3 hrs for the ride?
I am contemplating which train to catch from York to Derby
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 September, 2010, 10:08:42 pm
Three hours should be more than enough - you're out of the Moors once you get to Pickering, so it's a considerably flatter route to York.

I'll probably ride back to Darlo, unless our lass fancies a day out in Whitby.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 29 September, 2010, 10:18:02 pm
Thanks for the second opinion.Looks like the 1825 or 1844 then from York to allow some slack for "latent issues"
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 30 September, 2010, 02:17:11 am
I've been talking to folk on the Velo Vision forum, and the word is that the cyclepath surface between Whitby and Scarborough is dreadful in places....

Absolutely abominable. I would not recommend it at all.

One goth weekend I decided to make a definite test. I rode from Scarborough to Whitby on NCN1 on Thursday - fresh, with a tailwind, on railway gradients (it follows the old line to the other Whitby station - curse you, Doctor Beeching). I rode back on the road with a hangover, after a week of debauchery, with a headwind, on... distinctly non-railway gradients.

It was still quicker to ride on the road.

From stuff mentioned upthread - it's worth noting if there are Malton->York trains then Pickering-Malton is 8 miles and dead flat to boot.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 September, 2010, 09:18:52 am
From stuff mentioned upthread - it's worth noting if there are Malton->York trains then Pickering-Malton is 8 miles and dead flat to boot.

Doesn't look like it. Don't think there are any trains running between scarborough and york on that day.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 September, 2010, 09:44:20 am
Thanks for the second opinion.Looks like the 1825 or 1844 then from York to allow some slack for "latent issues"

It goes without saying that if I'm slowing down by then like I was from Scarborough, people are welcome to speed on ahead.

It would be very jolly to have company on the train and return ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 September, 2010, 11:39:26 am
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo.  £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby.  It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 September, 2010, 12:06:37 pm
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo.  £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby.  It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!

It may be faster, but it won't smell of steam and hot engineering oil... Mmmmmmm

 ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 30 September, 2010, 01:11:45 pm
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo.  £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby.  It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!

Thanks for the info CL.
The novelty of a ride on a steam train is a strong attraction & "fast" is something I have managed to avoid, when riding a bike, for a long time.There's no need to change that particular habit :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 30 September, 2010, 01:19:35 pm
Jogler - you can get a relatively cheap advance fare from Whitby to Derby, changing at Middlesborough and Darlo.  £31 quid, which is only a couple of quid more than the NYM fare to Pickering+the cheapest advance from York to Derby.  It's not fast, but it is probably faster that the steam train!

I dunno. The ancient diesels that do the Whitby - Middlesborough leg are not appreciably faster than steam over the moors.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 September, 2010, 04:12:20 pm
Well, I've had a reply from NYMR - it simply says that bicycles or tricycles can be carried, in the guards van, subject to space being available, at a cost of £2. (it looked like a bit of a cut and paste answer to me).  So I guess that's a yes then.  If there are many of us, we just make sure we're at the station early enough to beat any other prospective cycling passengers to the van.

I did ask if I needed to make a reservation, but they haven't said anything specific, so I assume it's ok to just buy a ticket on the day.  I know it's Goth weekend - are Goths likely to be inundating the local steam railway? Or is 'Goth'/'Steam Enthusiast' one of those Venn diagrams with very little overlap?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 30 September, 2010, 04:16:40 pm
Well, I've had a reply from NYMR - it simply says that bicycles or tricycles can be carried, in the guards van, subject to space being available, at a cost of £2. (it looked like a bit of a cut and paste answer to me).  So I guess that's a yes then.  If there are many of us, we just make sure we're at the station early enough to beat any other prospective cycling passengers to the van.

The NYMR have old rolling stock. The guard's vans are vast affairs occupying most of a carriage. I would be totally amazed if it was an issue.

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I did ask if I needed to make a reservation, but they haven't said anything specific, so I assume it's ok to just buy a ticket on the day.  I know it's Goth weekend - are Goths likely to be inundating the local steam railway? Or is 'Goth'/'Steam Enthusiast' one of those Venn diagrams with very little overlap?

Typically when we go on the NYMR we see half a dozen or so other goth weekenders, so I can't see it being super rammed.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 September, 2010, 04:22:24 pm
Excellent.  Forgive me if I seem to be over preparing, but I'm a born fretter.

I get it from my Mum.  I didn't tell her about the Scarborough ride until after I'd done it.  I won't mention this one either...  She knows it's daft, but she would just lie awake all night worrying about me.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 30 September, 2010, 10:13:08 pm
Nae harm in over-preparing - I'm much more laissez-faire, so I'm pleased to have someone around who complements that!

I'd hope you can all get on one or other of the steam trains, as otherwise I'd be worried about how people are getting back to York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 01 October, 2010, 05:40:35 pm
Nae harm in over-preparing - I'm much more laissez-faire, so I'm pleased to have someone around who complements that!

I'd hope you can all get on one or other of the steam trains, as otherwise I'd be worried about how people are getting back to York.

Well, if the worst came to the worst...

We'll all have bikes with us...  ;)

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 01 October, 2010, 06:32:53 pm
Well, if the worst came to the worst...

We'll all have bikes with us...  ;)

That's the "if all else fails" approach.  The various alternatives to cycling the entire way back still seem to involve another 30 miles or so of cycling. :-\

I must remember to contact the cattery, since I'll be gone long enough that it would probably be unfair to expect Talisker to tolerate being left to his own amusements for that long (plus he'll need his medication).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 01 October, 2010, 06:54:51 pm
I'll probably ride back to Darlo, but I'm planning it with the knowledge that there's a train if I'm knackered, or the weather's shite.

If anyone does feel the need to prove something, I can suggest a route back to York via Chimney Bank :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 October, 2010, 11:58:09 pm
Don't forget the Carlton Bank route.

I have done York - Carlton - York before, with a 4 hour break standing in the pouring rain. It wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 02 October, 2010, 11:39:28 am
Aye, but from Whitby to York would mean going down Carlton Bank.  Mind you, that's not an especially soft option.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 October, 2010, 10:05:11 pm
Aye, but from Whitby to York would mean going down Carlton Bank.  Mind you, that's not an especially soft option.

eh?

Carlton Bank - from Carlton on the north side of the moors - goes up onto the moors when heading south.

Maybe I have the name wrong and there is another Carlton Bank.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 03 October, 2010, 09:32:09 am
We probably are talking about the same place - I imagined riding along Eskdale, through Ingleby Greenhow, up Clay Bank and the Bilsdale road to Chop Gate, then going down Carlton Bank and down to York through Thirsk.  If you went around through Great Broughton and up Carlton Bank, you'd be doubling back on yourself.  Either way, it adds about 25 miles to the ride to York, so only a hardened nutter would be going back that way!

This the one?

Streetmap - Maps and directions for the whole of Great Britain (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=452129&y=503395&z=120&sv=452129,503395&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=580&ax=452129&ay=503395&lm=0)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 03 October, 2010, 03:07:47 pm
We probably are talking about the same place - I imagined riding along Eskdale, through Ingleby Greenhow, up Clay Bank and the Bilsdale road to Chop Gate, then going down Carlton Bank and down to York through Thirsk.  If you went around through Great Broughton and up Carlton Bank, you'd be doubling back on yourself.  Either way, it adds about 25 miles to the ride to York, so only a hardened nutter would be going back that way!


Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)

I went out yesterday and spent a whopping £1.99 on Halloweeny decorations for the trike.... ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 03 October, 2010, 03:17:54 pm
it adds about 25 miles to the ride to York, so only a hardened nutter would be going back that way!

Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)

Next time Deano tries a ride to Oban and back, maybe he'll talk you into it too?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 October, 2010, 03:20:15 pm
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)

Nah - it's just a bike ride, out to get a nice cuppa by the seaside.  Isn't it?  And Deano assures us that it isn't very hilly at all.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 03 October, 2010, 03:46:25 pm
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)

Nah - it's just a bike ride, out to get a nice cuppa by the seaside.  Isn't it?  And Deano assures us that it isn't very hilly at all.

I've heard that before.  Usually just before you turn the corner and are faced with the son of Everest.

I go on an annual weekend away with some mates in Northumberland and we go out for rides of varying lengths. One guy, I used to ask "What's your ride like?" and he'd say "oh, not very hilly, and about 40 miles" - which I eventually learned meant "80 miles up and down every hill I can find".  It took me a stupidly long time to stop believing him though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 03 October, 2010, 03:48:48 pm
It's going to be fun, isn't it?  I like fun :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 03 October, 2010, 03:59:17 pm
It's going to be fun, isn't it?  I like fun :)

I hope so! After being a little bit nervous for the Scarborough ride (first night ride and all that, and wondering if I was up to riding back), I'm really looking forward to this one. The only downer could be the weather, but on the trike at least I'm not so worried about ice.  Need warmer feet though - better invest in overshoes.

Those of us aiming for the 11am train out again have a bit of time to while away over tea/beer or whatever too.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 03 October, 2010, 05:46:26 pm
Don't we all qualify as that just for doing this ride in the first place? ;)

Nah - it's just a bike ride, out to get a nice cuppa by the seaside.  Isn't it?  And Deano assures us that it isn't very hilly at all.

I'm sure I didn't say that!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 03 October, 2010, 05:59:09 pm
Oh, we may have a nibble from Cyclechat....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 03 October, 2010, 09:04:36 pm
I'm thinking of joining you on this ride  .........   :thumbsup:
My problem is getting back to York with my trike as the BR trains are not running.
The problem is that beyond ~70 miles, my knees give out.

Luck ............ :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 October, 2010, 09:40:24 pm
Well, there is a train to Boro then change to get back south from there, if the  knee is really unhappy. I have no idea if I'll be riding back, steam training or going for the lengthy br route-make it up as I go along, I reckon :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 03 October, 2010, 09:47:39 pm
I'll be making it up as I go along, with a general leaning towards the steam train.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 05 October, 2010, 04:39:22 pm
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen,  this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before.  Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning.  And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 05 October, 2010, 08:15:56 pm
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen,  this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before.  Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning.  And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?

If you wouldn't mind, CL, that would be really helpful.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 05 October, 2010, 08:17:12 pm
I'm thinking of joining you on this ride  .........   :thumbsup:
My problem is getting back to York with my trike as the BR trains are not running.
The problem is that beyond ~70 miles, my knees give out.

Luck ............ :D

Welcome aboard!  As others have said, there's a train via Middlesbrough as an alternative to catching the steamer to Pickering.

Two trikes!  Crikey.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 05 October, 2010, 08:36:57 pm
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen,  this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before.  Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning.  And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 05 October, 2010, 08:39:13 pm
My source of local knowledge says that there are loads of early opening greasy spoons in Whitby, frequented by the fishermen,  this (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=The+Magpie,+Whitby&sll=58.309489,-4.042969&sspn=11.201987,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9&hnear=Magpie+Caf%C3%A9,+14+Pier+Rd,+Whitby,+North+Yorkshire+YO21+3PU,+United+Kingdom&ll=54.487929,-0.614834&spn=0.022884,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=54.48783,-0.614787&panoid=MuzX_Wi7dLEfOg6ol_jx3g&cbp=12,210.43,,0,16.91) being one that she has been to before.  Apparently many of them are fairly entertaining at that time of the morning.  And I'm reasonably likely to be cycling through Whitby a couple of days ahead of this, so can go and scope out the options that have a harbour view and convenient railings if that would be helpful?

Sorry, cocked that up.  Meant to say, that would be cool, CL. If you can find one filled with hunky trawlermen in Aran sweaters playing shanties on sqeezeboxes, that would be best of all...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 05 October, 2010, 08:41:07 pm
Arch, if you're ever in Mallaig, do get a breakfast at the Fisherman's Mission...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 05 October, 2010, 08:56:27 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 05 October, 2010, 11:09:45 pm
that would be cool, CL. If you can find one filled with hunky trawlermen in Aran sweaters playing shanties on sqeezeboxes, that would be best of all...

Now there's a challenge..... one that I suspect I may fail at.  Possibly heroically, or tragi-comically, or something!

We're also considering steam training out of Whitby, if we can think of an interesting route from a station on that line to a currently unspecified nice campsite.  And before anyone suggests Rosedale, I know there's a nice campsite there and I also know that there's an almighty gurt big hill there too!  If we do, I shall do my very bestest 'sweet middle class girlie' impression, complete with cute blond 8 year old in tow, and attempt to find out from the guard/whoever seems likely to actually know on the train what the likelihood of trike/silly numbers of bikes transportation is :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: newtoncap on 06 October, 2010, 10:41:46 am
Hi all,  i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better.   :'(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 06 October, 2010, 10:42:50 am
As things are going at the moment I may well be around to participate in this, so pencil me in Deano.....

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Luke on 06 October, 2010, 11:16:47 am
I'm really tempted to do this ride.

Investigating train opions to get to and from York atm.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 06 October, 2010, 01:00:31 pm
I'm really tempted to do this ride.

Investigating train opions to get to and from York atm.

Excellent!  Which reminds me, I'd better book a train as well.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 06 October, 2010, 01:01:19 pm
Hi all,  i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better.   :'(

Bah.  Sorry to hear that, S.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 06 October, 2010, 01:03:10 pm
that would be cool, CL. If you can find one filled with hunky trawlermen in Aran sweaters playing shanties on sqeezeboxes, that would be best of all...

Now there's a challenge..... one that I suspect I may fail at.  Possibly heroically, or tragi-comically, or something!

We're also considering steam training out of Whitby, if we can think of an interesting route from a station on that line to a currently unspecified nice campsite. 

There's a campsite near Grosmont.  If it's the one I think it is, it's a very friendly place which also allows you to play with FIRE, as long as you're subtle about it.

But, it was 12 years ago when I was at this site, and sad to say, drink was taken, so my recollection is a tad hazy.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 06 October, 2010, 01:08:02 pm
Well I've ordered various bits of car bike carrying equipment, which will hopefully turn up at some point in the next three weeks, so I can fit it to the car and make sure my bike doesn't make the Corsa too top heavy. ;D

I'm also going to have to make sure I have a list of stuff which I'll need to bring.  It's hard to forget bicycle lights when you're about to cycle to Hyde Park Corner for a FNRttC in the dark, it's much more easily done when you're not cycling, and it's daylight!  Turning up to the ride with any number of things missing, like lights, SPD shoes, etc could be a real nuisance.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 06 October, 2010, 02:47:12 pm
Hi all,  i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better.   :'(

well, blast. What were you doing, kicking cars?

At least you'll be able to self-treat and not wait for an nhs appointment.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: newtoncap on 06 October, 2010, 04:33:57 pm

well, blast. What were you doing, kicking cars?



nasty sliding tackle  ;)
(no not really, I just overcooked it on a hilly ride).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 06 October, 2010, 04:44:21 pm
Hi all,  i'm afraid i've got to drop out of this ride due to a damaged knee ligament! I have to back off hills and long distances for about 6 weeks to let it get better.   :'(

Oh, bad luck!  We'll bring you a virtual stick of rock.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: newtoncap on 06 October, 2010, 04:50:12 pm
Thanks Arch, i'm disappointed.  Make sure you take lots of photos!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 06 October, 2010, 05:07:31 pm
Thanks Arch, i'm disappointed.  Make sure you take lots of photos!

If I've got my camera back. I dropped it while at my sister's and broke it. Fortunately I took out the accidental damage cover when I bought it, but Jessops still have it to see if it can be mended.

It severely curtailed my nephew-photograhing though.... :(  Only about 100 pictures before I broke it.... ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 06 October, 2010, 09:14:44 pm
I've had a quick skeg at Google Streetview, and there's a handy-looking bus shelter in Lockton:

clicky (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=york&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=York,+North+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ei=gcKsTKa8HNO64gaYwr3fBw&ved=0CCMQ8gEwAA&ll=54.29792,-0.703104&spn=0.008853,0.024419&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=54.29793,-0.702597&panoid=gJGXgzxSfCfrtP1qjIrY6Q&cbp=12,171.59,,0,14.25)

I'd prefer somewhere away from residential areas.  If it's mild enough, the parking area at Hole of Horcum can accommodate any number of deranged overnight cyclists:

clicky (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=york&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=York,+North+Yorkshire,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ei=gcKsTKa8HNO64gaYwr3fBw&ved=0CCMQ8gEwAA&ll=54.33134,-0.69025&spn=0.070367,0.195351&t=h&z=13&layer=c&cbll=54.331123,-0.690546&panoid=IbsTalby0Gyc_WR1s8h0EA&cbp=12,26.17,,0,6.3)

If you spin that around, you can catch sight of the view which we won't have.

Hopefully we can decide between the two on the night - or if anyone can suggest a more suitable location (such as a deserted hangar, with built-in heating and poor security), I'd be most grateful. 

At the moment, it looks most likely to be me who's on the tea run - so I'll dash ahead of everyone and get brewing.  Anyone have a decent-sized (and lightweight) teapot?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 06 October, 2010, 09:41:16 pm
As things are going at the moment I may well be around to participate in this, so pencil me in Deano.....

Hope you can make it - you know what to do, if so ;D

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Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 06 October, 2010, 10:12:18 pm
Sorry, don't have an appropriate teapot.  But I'm definitely up for providing a plenty of cake (which I will probably make TimO carry in his magic pannier) if that would help?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: hulver on 07 October, 2010, 07:23:06 am
I'm unlikely to be able to provide a tea stop from the back of the car now.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 07 October, 2010, 09:37:54 am
I don't have a teapot suitable - I'll see if there's anything likely at work, but I think the only metal teapot we have is a bit huge to carry.

I'm not well endowed with bottle cages on the trike, but if you need any extra water or stuff carrying I could fit my touring bags. Although if you brew up at the top of the Hole of Horcum hill, I'll most likely get there just as everyone is ready to go again.... ;)

How about stoves?  Do we need more than one?  I've got a Trangia.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 07 October, 2010, 11:09:49 am
I've got a decent gas stove, and I guess we could just put a biggish pot on there instead of a kettle.  My kettle, which I normally only carry when car camping, probably only has a couple of cups in it, so it's not really useful to carry on this occasion.

The biggest issue with brewing up ourselves, is the weight of water.  I carried a 2L bottle of water on the Solstice WARTY last year, and it almost killed McBludgeon when he tried to lift my bike over a gate!  I guess this won't be such an issue if we have 3amses before the hilly bits of the ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 October, 2010, 11:21:19 am
I think I have a small camping gaz and kettle somewhere. Will try to locate them.

I can stick an extra bottle cage on bike and put a litre of water in that.

People not carrying kettles, stoves or suchlike will be expected to perform a rendition of "I'm a little teapot, short and stout" (oops, that describes me) at 2am on the north york moors.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 07 October, 2010, 11:22:43 am
P'raps each rider could carry the water they normally would plus enough for a brew for themselves.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 07 October, 2010, 11:33:11 am
P'raps each rider could carry the water they normally would plus enough for a brew for themselves.

That was going to be my suggestion.....

On the Scarborough ride I had a 500ml bidon, a 1litre bidon in my pannier ('cos I have only one bottle cage on the purple bike) and a large amount of cake, which is why I struggled up some of the hills (that's my excuse, and I am sticking to it :) )
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 07 October, 2010, 11:47:23 am
I think that's what we did on this years Solstice WARTY.  I certainly didn't carry as much water as before.  I'd probably still carry a pint of milk or so.  How much of this kit we'll need will depend on exactly how many people are planning on doing the ride.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 07 October, 2010, 01:04:19 pm
We've got anything up to fifteen people coming at the moment (if Deano's list at the start is accurate), so we will probably need a couple of cookers anyway.  Likewise with that many people, we'll also probably need a couple of pints of milk to make enough mugs of tea/coffee, and people are likely to need to bring their own cups (or use someone else's on a time-share basis!).

I'm happy to bring a cooker, largish pan and lid, a pint of milk, my small camping containers of coffee, sugar, and tea bags, a teaspoon for stirring, and possibly another pint (or so) of water in addition to a water bottle of water, to cover for people who aren't carrying a pannier, and don't have much room for water bottles on their frames.  With addition of some cake, that should provide a reasonable halfway break, assuming we can find somewhere not too windy to eat and drink.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 07 October, 2010, 01:25:23 pm
How much of this kit we'll need will depend on exactly how many people are planning on doing the ride.

I dunno. Doesn't a group of cyclists' ability to drink tea simply expand to fit the available tea? Also applies to cake....

If I fit the touring bags, I can bring the Trangia, (plus fuel), an extra bottle of water, milk.  But as jogler suggested, if we all just bring a bit of extra water, that will help.

Perhaps nearer the time, when the list is confirmed, and the forecast known, we can commit to who needs to bring what. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: LindaG on 07 October, 2010, 01:38:15 pm
I had a big flask of coffee on the Scab ride, in me pannier.  Bit heavy.  Still warm and wet when I got home tho'.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 07 October, 2010, 01:41:19 pm
How about one of you takes a turbo trainer, hooks it up to a generator and pedals to boil an electric kettle? 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 October, 2010, 03:28:19 pm
Sounds like a volunteer to me.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 07 October, 2010, 03:40:32 pm
I'll carry some water and milk and coffee/hot choc/whatever. Gives me a reason to fit a third bottle cage to the tourer  :)

I also have at least one gas camping stove at home and a trangia, although I'm not sure I have a kettle (I'll look when I get home).

What do you want to do about cups?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 07 October, 2010, 03:46:24 pm
I think everyone will need to carry their own cups, though I'll have a spare.

I have a Trangia and a gas stove - how about I carry my Trangia, and someone else can carry a gas stove.

Two will be enough... won't it?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 October, 2010, 03:57:56 pm
yes.

I'm feeling decisive today :)

Next question - Deano, how many coffee cakes will you eat  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 07 October, 2010, 04:00:33 pm
How many can you cook? ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 October, 2010, 04:03:07 pm
multiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.

How good are you at times tables  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 07 October, 2010, 05:12:59 pm
I may have had a little titanium-related accident that ought to come in handy for brewing up...   ::-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 07 October, 2010, 06:13:01 pm
multiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.

How good are you at times tables  :P

I don't have any jerseys with 8 pockets in them.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 07 October, 2010, 07:19:08 pm
multiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.

How good are you at times tables  :P

I don't have any jerseys with 8 pockets in them.

Wear 3 or 4 jerseys?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 07 October, 2010, 07:23:18 pm
multiples of 8 for jersey pocket size, multiples of 4 for carradice pocket size.

How good are you at times tables  :P

I don't have any jerseys with 8 pockets in them.

Wear 3 or 4 jerseys?


If it gets much colder on a night that might be a good idea ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 07 October, 2010, 10:55:58 pm
Just checked and I do have a small kettle in my trangy, it's only about 500ml though
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 08 October, 2010, 10:45:54 am
Well, I got a big box of bicycle carrier bits today, so I'll have to have a go at putting it all together on Sunday, and make sure that the car can actually carry a bike!  I would try it out tomorrow, but I'll be off on a WARTY, so playing with cars will have to wait until after playing with bicycles (as is proper!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 09 October, 2010, 07:51:14 am
Looking at trains and stuff for the return leg, I might just charge back towards Helmsley and get Mrs T to meet me there.  The trains out of Whitby to Northallerton are irregular and take nearly 3 hours!

Mrs T was talking about meeting us in Whitby, but due to dance lessons (TLD's not Mrs T's) looks like it wouldn't work (Mrs T is not a morning person hence would not get to Whitby 'til about 10 or so, and the dance llessons start @ 10!)

So my current plan seems to be ride York to Whitby, brekkie, then ride Whitby to Helmsley and wait to be rescued... :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 09 October, 2010, 08:26:58 pm
Oh dear, I seem to have bought some glow sticks :-[
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 10 October, 2010, 04:27:01 pm
Right, the bicycle carrier seems to work, it fits the bike, and it's nice and solidly secure. :thumbsup:

(http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/BicycleOnCar_Thumb320.jpg) (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/BicycleOnCar.jpg)

That's one less thing to deal with before the end of the month.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 10 October, 2010, 07:41:17 pm
Tim, I don't know what your Talisker arrangements are for this one, but if you need somewhere to crash on the Saturday night before driving back give us a shout - we can offer a settee, at least (although I don't know that it's quite long enough for you to stretch out).  If you just want to catch a couple of hours on the Saturday after getting back to York before heading back south, I'm sure we could find you a corner to snooze in too :)

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 10 October, 2010, 08:18:44 pm
Talisker is going to be sent to prison in the cattery over the weekend.  Since he needs drugs every day, and being of the more elderly persuasion he's a bit prone to ending up in the vets whenever I leave him for more than a normal working day, he ends up in the cattery even for the odd day away from home.

Luckily I've got a good, not too expensive cattery only a couple of miles away.  They also remember me, since I'm the only person who brings a cat around on a bicycle trailer !

I may take you up on your offer CrinklyLion, although I won't need much more than a bit of flat space that I can plonk a Thermarest on.  I suspect driving for five hours probably shouldn't be done immediately after I've been up all night. :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 10 October, 2010, 08:54:30 pm
I may have had a little titanium-related accident that ought to come in handy for brewing up...   ::-)

I've just noticed this - do tell. 

By the way, though I'm calling it a brew-up, I'l be carrying loads of instant coffee.  Maybe a few teabags - I'm not really that arsed about tea.  If you want poncy special tea, or hot chocolate or any other alternative, I'm afraid you'll have to carry your own.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 10 October, 2010, 09:37:35 pm
I've invested in one of these:

http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16256&category_id=253 (http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16256&category_id=253)

Along with a rather spiffy folding titanium spork.

The mug is huge (750ml) and comes with a lid, so can reasonably be used for cooking in, and will happily sit on a gas burner for the purpose.  Just under half full gives you a reasonable amount of water for a hot drink, so you can easily boil enough for two (assuming there's something for the other person to drink out of.

What's really cool, as I discovered on Friday, is that it's just the right diameter to take a standard Coleman (and presumably the MSR equivilent) gas cartridge, with enough room left over for a small burner and assorted bits and pieces.  I also worked out how to strap it to my bike in a vaguely sensible way, to save luggage space - just about visible in the photo in this post (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38941.msg744235#msg744235), the thing that looks like an air filter, strapped to the lowrider rack under the seat.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 10 October, 2010, 10:02:30 pm
Yeah.  We need to see that in action, I'm afraid, so you'll have to carry a stove.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 10 October, 2010, 10:44:10 pm
I'll bring a stove if you want
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Luke on 11 October, 2010, 03:59:36 pm
My train tickets are booked, so I'm definitely in now.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 October, 2010, 04:33:24 pm
Looking unlikely that I'll make this one. Either I'll be away with family or looking after daughter after dental surgery.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 11 October, 2010, 07:27:42 pm
My train tickets are booked, so I'm definitely in now.  :thumbsup:

 :thumbsup:

Looking unlikely that I'll make this one. Either I'll be away with family or looking after daughter after dental surgery.

*insert thumbs-down smiley*

I only need one other person to bring a stove, by the way - preferably a gas one.  I'll fetch my Trangia and dash up the road to get it going, then the handy volunteer can arrive with a gas stove which is likely to boil quicker.  Probably a good idea if it's a stronger rider, too.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 11 October, 2010, 07:33:22 pm
I fail on all counts - no stove, and no chance of speeding on ahead :)


For those planning to steam train to Pickering then ride to York - has anybody thought about a route?  I know it's oop north and I probably ought to know where I'm going - but I haven't got a clue!  AFAIK Kim and TimO are contemplating doing this, and are in possession of magic technology that points the way to home/tea/bed so my current plan is to follow them and hope I don't get dropped :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 11 October, 2010, 07:38:23 pm
For those planning to steam train to Pickering then ride to York - has anybody thought about a route? 

Being a low-tech ginda guy I plan to disembark from the train,consult map.....start pedalling.
I may have a looksee at the map between now & 29th Oct. by way of forward planning.
 :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 11 October, 2010, 07:39:38 pm
My train tickets are booked,

I really should get a roundtoit
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 11 October, 2010, 07:41:21 pm
If I was riding, I'd probably go from Pickering, round Castle Howard, through Sheriff Hutton and down to York, but I don't know the area that well, and someone in the know could propose a less hilly route.  Aidan's probably your man.

I think jogler and Arch are both planning to ride back from Pickering - no doubt they'll be along soon to confirm.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 11 October, 2010, 07:46:56 pm
IIRC it's an easy pedal from Sheriff Hutton to York via Wiggington & Haxby,but as I say that's from memory . There's definately a good pub with good food in Sh.Hut..Strange how I remember that dontyathink ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 11 October, 2010, 07:50:04 pm
It's the Howardian Hills bit I was thinking about, as it happens.  Very nice, mind.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 11 October, 2010, 07:52:09 pm
That's the bit I'm trying not to think about ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 11 October, 2010, 07:52:49 pm
My train tickets are booked,

I really should get a roundtoit
If it helps with getting the cheap tickets, same offer as Scab still stands - if you need somewhere to lurk after getting an earlier train in, or before heading back (assuming I haven't fallen asleep in a hedge somewhere along the way....) just shout.  As it's half term I don't have the 'getting home from work' issue on Friday to deal with, although I may be getting home from camping with the biggun instead.  We will quite likely have a plenty of YACFers round ours at some point over the weekend, I reckon :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 11 October, 2010, 07:55:43 pm
I'll bear that in mind CL,thanks.
I have no cub-style toys left though :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 11 October, 2010, 07:57:38 pm
I have no cub-style toys left though :)

They won't mind!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 11 October, 2010, 08:21:59 pm
I looked at the map just the other day actually.  I think we can head down to Castle Howard via Coneysthorpe as Deano suggests, but if we want to avoid as much hilly stuff as possible (and I always do!), perhaps bypass Sherrif Hutton, and skirt through Thornton-le-Clay and Flaxton instead - on that route, it's pretty much flat once you drop down off the Castle Howard ridge.  I've ridden it the other way a few times.

The only thing is that there are a couple of cattle grids - not bad ones, in fact the only ones I've been able to ride on on two wheels, despite my phobia.  But easy enough to cross on foot if anyone is nervous of them.

Oh, I looked at work, and we don't have a suitable metal teapot, only a huge one. Bags in mugs I reckon.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 11 October, 2010, 08:24:57 pm
I bow to your superior knowledge Arch.I'll follow you :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 11 October, 2010, 08:57:32 pm
I bow to your superior knowledge Arch.I'll follow you :thumbsup:

Lawks, I better get it right! I have only ridden it the other way!

We can't avoid a climb at some point just after Pickering - if we went via Malton, it would be a long drag up (I've been down, and it's lovely, want to try it on three wheels!), and if via Amotherly, a bastard short sharp edge.  Getting from Pickering to Malton is the thing though - I'm not sure the A169 is going to be a good idea in the day time.  To Amotherly, we can take all quiet back roads quite easily.  There are back roads to Malton, but it looks more complicated and meandering.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 11 October, 2010, 09:06:30 pm
I'm intending on bringing my gas cooker, with a reasonable sized cylinder, and as big a camping pot as I've got (probably good for a reasonable number of cuppas, I'll need to measure it!).

I can use the GPS to "magically" get me from A to B, but it'll tend to use whatever route it decides is the shortest, which can often involve main roads etc.  In addition to that, whilst it knows about things like cycle routes, Andy's Munky Maps will sometimes use them when there's a perfectly acceptable shorter route on a road, and on other occasions avoid them when they would be the shorter route!  OpenStreetMaps isn't entirely perfect. :-\  A planned route, based on some local knowledge would be far better, and then we can plonk it onto GPSes, and follow that (I don't even know where the steam trains travel between!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 11 October, 2010, 09:29:18 pm
There's an 11:00 train from Whitby to Pickering, gets in at 12:40 (the alternative being, if we're much earlier, that we all pile onto the 8:52 ordinary train as far as Grosmont and then spend an hour and a bit waiting for the connecting steam service at 10:30 - but that does only get us into Pickering an hour ealier). 

I've found a route on Bikely that went through Pickering and York - and chopped out the extra bit.  Going the wrong way, but I'm sure other people better at these things than me can sort that out!

So, does this Bicycle Path - york-pickering at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/466344) make sense as a route?  Or is there a better way?

Incidentally - I'm still reserving the right to turn up at the station with cake, wave you all off and bugger off back home if the weather is too gruesome!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 11 October, 2010, 10:05:29 pm


I've found a route on Bikely that went through Pickering and York - and chopped out the extra bit.  Going the wrong way, but I'm sure other people better at these things than me can sort that out!

So, does this Bicycle Path - york-pickering at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/466344) make sense as a route?  Or is there a better way?


Mostly. I'd change it a bit after Castle Howard - that takes us down and then up an arrowed valley.  And I think we could go more directly at the start.  A good starting route though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 11 October, 2010, 10:08:35 pm


I've found a route on Bikely that went through Pickering and York - and chopped out the extra bit.  Going the wrong way, but I'm sure other people better at these things than me can sort that out!

So, does this Bicycle Path - york-pickering at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/466344) make sense as a route?  Or is there a better way?


For anyone looking at the elevation profile, you can blame the Howards for that massive wall at 15 km.  

If you don't know the area, the Howard estate is a fascinating place to ride through, and to gawp at the sheer arrogance and wealth required to shape the landscape to your personal vision.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 11 October, 2010, 10:13:36 pm
Looks pretty good, although I'd be tempted to ride straight on at the cross-roads near Welburn and come through  Foston and Thornton-le-Clay. It would then avoid the 1:7 just after Bulmer.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 12 October, 2010, 01:13:52 am
I'm still planning to be on this ride on my Trice Q.

The plan is to drive to York from Northampton friday afternoon.
Ride to the coast, train back to Pickering then cycle back to York.
Then drive up to Hexham to see my mum .........  O:-)

I just hope my knees can do the distance.
I can do 70-80 miles without too much pain, and I'm planning to trying to reach 100 miles this weekend.

Crinkly Lion, I may take you up on a patch of floor to sleep on, if thats ok.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 12 October, 2010, 03:52:52 pm
Looks pretty good, although I'd be tempted to ride straight on at the cross-roads near Welburn and come through  Foston and Thornton-le-Clay. It would then avoid the 1:7 just after Bulmer.

My thoughts exactly. Whoever planned it that way is a masochist.

The long straight past Castle Howard is fab, I'm looking forward to doing it on the trike and getting the maximum speed in the downs to help with the ups (it's undulating, rather than sadistic).  And if you do it at the right time of year, the smell of the wild garlic is amazing.

Tigerbiten, I reckon you'll be fine - we'll have a good break in Whitby and then on the train before the last leg, for your knees to rest. If you're flagging, I'll probably be flagging too, and we can flag together... The great thing about a night ride (says she, with a grand total of one under her belt), is that you really have all day to do the distance, so there's scope for breaks.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 12 October, 2010, 05:10:42 pm
Undulating darkside fun you say?  This just gets better and better...

I won't be flagging though.  My 'bent's high enough already.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 12 October, 2010, 05:41:37 pm
I was only a little flagging on the FNRttC.

But still almost got squashed in a pinch point by a car.

So I may be bigger flagging on this ride ...........   :smug:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 12 October, 2010, 06:10:25 pm
My current flag is the little rectangular Trice one. I do have a choice of bigger ones. Hmmm.

If I do fit a bigger one, I must secure it better than the one that blew off on the Pont de Normandie and is even now probably wrapped around the Eiffel Tower.

I also have some seasonal decorative options...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 12 October, 2010, 10:31:03 pm
FWIW I found that the undulations past Castle Howard were too far apart to maintain momentum, when I went round there on fixed.  At least you'll be going along in the right direction - getting the worst hill out of the way first.

Th glow sticks I bought seem a bit crap, but they'll do the job for one night only, so I'll grab a couple more packs.  I couldn't bear to get any more Halloween-related tat, so you'll have to decorate your own bikes.

This is going to be a blast - I suggested Whitby out of pure selfishness, cos it's easy to get back to Darlo.  I didn't expect so many others to think it was a good idea ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 12 October, 2010, 11:20:18 pm
I'm not sure it is a good idea,  but what the hell. ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 12 October, 2010, 11:28:20 pm
It's a profoundly silly idea.  But much less so than a lot of the things I've been doing with the aid of a bicycle in recent weeks, and therefore why not?   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 13 October, 2010, 01:04:54 am
At least I'm not the only mad one doing this ............   ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 13 October, 2010, 05:41:07 pm
The glow sticks I bought seem a bit crap, but they'll do the job for one night only, so I'll grab a couple more packs.  I couldn't bear to get any more Halloween-related tat, so you'll have to decorate your own bikes.

I'm sorted, I hope, but that doesn't mean I won't succumb and buy more tat before the ride.... :wink:

Fortunately, I already had my set of Skully lights.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 13 October, 2010, 05:48:20 pm
I bought a witches nose today, specially for this!  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 13 October, 2010, 05:56:06 pm
oooh oooh!  If it's very cold, I could wear the Foska Bones....

But it would have to be very cold, and the rest of me might freeze. And I don't want to wish cold on the party.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 13 October, 2010, 10:53:20 pm
I figure I'll just turn up and bleed everywhere.  I seem to be getting good at that.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 13 October, 2010, 10:55:43 pm
Shall I buy a supply of extra large sticky plasters, just in case?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 13 October, 2010, 11:01:25 pm
I figure I'll just turn up and bleed everywhere.  I seem to be getting good at that.

I think it would be in keeping with the spirit of the ride!

I was tempted to buy an expensive jersey for this ride (as my skeleton-themed jersey has done a runner), but instead I think I'll mutilate a beaten-up old jersey or t-shirt.  Who can tell me where to buy light-reflective spray paint?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 14 October, 2010, 12:29:44 am
Thinks ..........

I've got a spare left hand.
Or is it two spare left hands ??

I wonder where I can fix them to the Trice for this ride ............  :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 09:33:36 am
I bought a witches nose today, specially for this!  ;D

Really?  I was planning on chocolate raisins and jaffa cakes again, but each to their own.  ;)

(I'm thinking a witch's nose would taste like a big pork scratching, for some reason.)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 14 October, 2010, 10:19:21 am
Only just seen this thread, and I've got the first of the seasons lurgies, but is there any room for a "possible" ?

Having me on the trip means anyone else is spared the embarrasment of being last....;-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 14 October, 2010, 01:47:06 pm
I think there's plenty of room for a possible.  I don't think anyone's going to stop you, and the only limiting factor is likely to be the amount of space available on the steam train involved in the return route, which sounds like it probably won't be a problem anyway.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 02:09:05 pm
Only just seen this thread, and I've got the first of the seasons lurgies, but is there any room for a "possible" ?

Having me on the trip means anyone else is spared the embarrasment of being last....;-)

Don't think of it as last. Think of it as Lanterne Rouge.

Or first, once we turn round to come back...   ;)

I think there might be a few of us being last together, at least up the hills.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 October, 2010, 02:16:47 pm
And I'm planning to go and do a bit of riding round there a couple of days beforehand, and will go and talk to people on the steam train (even if I don't go for a ride) about how many bikes/trike/assorted wheeled contraptions will fit.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2010, 02:49:52 pm
Trick is to get them to see it as a challenge.  Remember the Welsh Highland Railway benchmark is three recumbents (one which got unloaded through the 'window' of the open carriage) after forgetting to fit the bike wagon to the train.  They should be able to beat that easily by simply not forgetting the guard's van.

 :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 02:54:37 pm
Tell them about the night ride aspect, CL, and they might respect us for being as nutty as they are about our chosen hobby...

Or take them one of your cakes....

Oh, and number two in a series of "Did I see your offspring?", would the littlest cub have been taken somewhere in a trailer behind a bearded chap (onna bike, obviously), Tuesday morning about 8.15-8.30ish?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2010, 03:00:15 pm
Tell them about the night ride aspect, CL, and they might respect us for being as nutty as they are about our chosen hobby...

Or take them one of your cakes....

That could be a winning strategy.  If all else fails, CL can distract them with CAKE while we sneak all the [b|tr]ikes on.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 03:46:45 pm
Tell them about the night ride aspect, CL, and they might respect us for being as nutty as they are about our chosen hobby...

Or take them one of your cakes....

That could be a winning strategy.  If all else fails, CL can distract them with CAKE while we sneak all the [b|tr]ikes on.

Hmmm. I'm wondering how easy it is to 'sneak' a flouro orange trike anywhere....   ;)

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2010, 04:19:18 pm
Given sufficient CAKE...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 04:30:56 pm
Given sufficient CAKE...

Ah! We build a small wall of cake across the platform, and perform our nefarious trike smuggling behind it?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2010, 04:53:56 pm
Or, you bake a giant hollow cake and conceal the bikes within it.  Cakes are luggage, and therefore allowed on trains.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 05:04:56 pm
Or, you bake a giant hollow cake and conceal the bikes within it.  Cakes are luggage, and therefore allowed on trains.   :thumbsup:

Mmmmm. Cake-with-bike-in....


I like that idea far too much...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2010, 05:35:17 pm
It also gives a handy solution to the age old "what do you do with the bike bag when you get to your destination" problem...   ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 08:09:54 pm
Only just seen this thread, and I've got the first of the seasons lurgies, but is there any room for a "possible" ?

Having me on the trip means anyone else is spared the embarrasment of being last....;-)

I'll add you to the list.  That makes fourteen, assuming mrcharly can turn up.  Although thirteen would be an apt number, I think.

We'll make a hell of a sight at the station, even for a Friday night.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 October, 2010, 08:16:24 pm

We'll make a hell of a sight at the station, even for a Friday night.


particularly wearing a mask very similar to this



Google Images (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.unitedmask.com/masks/images/skeleton_mask_2181.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.unitedmask.com/masks/halloween_masks.asp&h=544&w=452&sz=55&tbnid=uvWqW3ldut7SLM:&tbnh=133&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dskeleton%2Bmask&zoom=1&q=skeleton+mask&usg=__h3nXrHYz1WX87I9HtzMVy8KzVjQ=&sa=X&ei=olW3TK3NJsaL4Qbj3f3eCQ&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAQ)


which I bought today ;D

& it occurs to me that we could sing the words to "Ghost Riders in the Sky" :demon:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 08:18:22 pm
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 October, 2010, 08:38:40 pm
Oh dear.

the mask or my singing?

One of these

Foska Bones Vest - Only £25.00 - Rutland Cycling (http://www.rutlandcycling.com/14639/Foska-Bones-Vest.html?referrer=froogle1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid14639)

or similar would go well with the mask ;D

It will be close enough to Halloween for such nonsense to perhaps be "appreciated" dontyathink :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 08:40:29 pm
Or you could get one of these :)

Halloween Road Jersey (http://www.foska.com/road-jerseys/mens/halloween-road-jersey.html)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 October, 2010, 08:43:13 pm
Guess how many of my friends & family suggested that wearing the mask was an improvement?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 08:43:49 pm
Bring back the beard, jogler!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 14 October, 2010, 08:46:34 pm
I'm getting there....got the 'tache atm
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 08:47:42 pm
You could rock the pirate look with a 'tache.  Yarrrr!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 08:49:32 pm
Oh dear.

the mask or my singing?

One of these

Foska Bones Vest - Only £25.00 - Rutland Cycling (http://www.rutlandcycling.com/14639/Foska-Bones-Vest.html?referrer=froogle1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid14639)

or similar would go well with the mask ;D

It will be close enough to Halloween for such nonsense to perhaps be "appreciated" dontyathink :)

That's the jacket I've got....  But it's very warm indeed.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 08:50:24 pm
I think that'll be too warm, Arch.  You need another jersey.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 14 October, 2010, 09:12:08 pm
I think that'll be too warm, Arch.  You need another jersey.

The trouble with jerseys is that then I bung a coat over them....

If I had a lot of money, I think I could end up with a lot of Foska stuff.

Actually, one of their salesmen is a real gem.  I was at the Cycle show a few years back, where they had a stall, where you could order stuff, and get a free water bottle. I was umming and ahhing over a Colmans jersey, and said to the chap that I couldn't decide between road (tighter) or MTB (baggy)

He looked me up and down, and without a hint of slime or insincerity, said "Oh, I think you have the figure for road".

I bought the jersey without a further thought...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 October, 2010, 10:10:40 pm
There's another volunteer from the Rescue who is very very tempted by this..... She's a bit nervous about night-riding, as she's never done it before, but likes the sound of the whole adventure.  I'll see her next week and see if she's made a decision :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 10:18:50 pm
Tell her we don't bite. 

Or, tell her we do, if that's her bag.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 October, 2010, 10:25:59 pm
Acksherly, coz I iz such a sensible growed up person, I told her that I was sure that there would be other night rides next year, where more of the ride would be in daylight and that might be less lumpy, if she was really really nervous about it.

And that she should come along to this one anyway  ;D

Then, because I have learned summat, I told that she just needed to make sure that her bike was running OK, that she had enough layers, some decent gloves, reasonable lights, a bottle of water, a mug for brewing up time, a spare tube of the right size and valve type and any freakishly unusual tools specific to her bike that might be required in the case of emergency roadside fettling and then she'd be reet. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 14 October, 2010, 10:29:26 pm
... She's a bit nervous about night-riding, as she's never done it before, ...

None of us had done night riding, until we did...  :)

Night rides are were the cool kids are at... and us... erm. 8)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 10:31:39 pm
Night riding is one of the best things about cycling.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: MSeries on 14 October, 2010, 10:33:17 pm
Acksherly, coz I iz such a sensible growed up person, I told her that I was sure that there would be other night rides next year, where more of the ride would be in daylight and that might be less lumpy, if she was really really nervous about it.

There will be other night rides next year. I am talking about 'From Dusk 'til Dawn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBay_1dKK8) next summer
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 14 October, 2010, 10:37:32 pm
There will be other night rides next year. I am talking about 'From Dusk 'til Dawn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBay_1dKK8) next summer

Salma Hayek can bite on my neck any time. ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 14 October, 2010, 10:39:56 pm
Acksherly, coz I iz such a sensible growed up person, I told her that I was sure that there would be other night rides next year, where more of the ride would be in daylight and that might be less lumpy, if she was really really nervous about it.

There will be other night rides next year. I am talking about 'From Dusk 'til Dawn' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bBay_1dKK8) next summer

That's more appropriate for this ride.  Ah go on, you know you want to come along.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 October, 2010, 10:54:53 pm
I'll bake you a cake, Mr Nesbitt, just for you.... I'll even decorate it with little bats or spiders or something. G'wan g'wan g'wan!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 14 October, 2010, 11:27:29 pm
Just now, reading this thread over my shoulder:

Quote from: barakta
When I've got a trike, I'll be able to come on night rides - I like walking at night, everything's all still.

 :D :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 14 October, 2010, 11:53:19 pm
I'll also be toting a brew up kit for a mid ride stop.

I'll need to book a bike space for the return journey from York to Liverpool, if we take the steam train and then ride back to York what time do we anticipate getting there ?

From http://www.atob.org.uk/Bike_Rail.html (http://www.atob.org.uk/Bike_Rail.html)

http://www.northyorkshiremoorsrailway.com/ (http://www.northyorkshiremoorsrailway.com/)
Routes:National Rail Network Interchange Grosmont - Pickering
Gauge: Standard - there are few minor roads on this part of the moor, so the railway could be useful
Folding bikes: tick No restrictions   Tandems and tricycles:  Unknown

All trains have a guard's van, but space varies, so tandems, tricycles or cycling groups are advised to book in advance. Individual cyclists can usually turn up and travel, subject to space being available. The cycle carriage fee is £2 per day, covering any amount of travel.

Tel: 01751 473799   
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 15 October, 2010, 07:40:30 am
Don't think this is relevant here, but thought I would post it anyways in case it affects any one doing this.

Sutton bank is closed for 5 weeks, whilst they repair the road surface and install video cameras to monitor the HGV driving idiots that try getting up there, even though there are numerous signs on the approach saying "don't do it"
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 15 October, 2010, 10:46:41 am
I'll also be toting a brew up kit for a mid ride stop.

I'll need to book a bike space for the return journey from York to Liverpool, if we take the steam train and then ride back to York what time do we anticipate getting there ?

From http://www.atob.org.uk/Bike_Rail.html (http://www.atob.org.uk/Bike_Rail.html)

http://www.northyorkshiremoorsrailway.com/ (http://www.northyorkshiremoorsrailway.com/)
Routes:National Rail Network Interchange Grosmont - Pickering
Gauge: Standard - there are few minor roads on this part of the moor, so the railway could be useful
Folding bikes: tick No restrictions   Tandems and tricycles:  Unknown

All trains have a guard's van, but space varies, so tandems, tricycles or cycling groups are advised to book in advance. Individual cyclists can usually turn up and travel, subject to space being available. The cycle carriage fee is £2 per day, covering any amount of travel.

Tel: 01751 473799   

Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?  When I emailed to enquire about me, I did ask if I should make a reservation, but the responce was a bit cut and paste and just told me the price, and that space was subject to availability... If we have to reserve, does that mean paying up front?  I don't mind, but we'd all have to do it individually I guess. Or could one person just ring them and give them a likely number of people?  (yes, I know, I'm fretting again). Or if anyone was happening to pop by, anyway, <innocent whistle> they could make a reservation then, if we've got a good idea of numbers.

Re: getting back to York. The 11am from Whitby gets to Pickering at 12.40.  Say leaving Pickering at 1 to allow for faffing.  The route that CL found on Bikely is 49 km, 30 miles - probably 3 hours worth of riding, depending on headwinds (grrrrr).  So I would say back in York 4ish at the earliest, but allowing for tiredness and stops, maybe more like 5?  Does that seem right to folk?

Of course, if anyone is faster, and needs to get back promptly, they are welcome to leave me behind.  Similarly, if there is any problem with space, those with relaxed timetables (me, I guess) could take a later train, it just means some dark on the way home.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 15 October, 2010, 02:00:10 pm

Re: getting back to York. The 11am from Whitby gets to Pickering at 12.40.  Say leaving Pickering at 1 to allow for faffing.  The route that CL found on Bikely is 49 km, 30 miles - probably 3 hours worth of riding, depending on headwinds (grrrrr).  So I would say back in York 4ish at the earliest, but allowing for tiredness and stops, maybe more like 5?  Does that seem right to folk


It fits in with my thinking.I shall book onto the 1825 York-Derby train to allow time for scoffing between arriving back in York & train departure
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 15 October, 2010, 03:38:44 pm
Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?

Look, I know no-one believes me, but I have travelled on the NYMR many times and every time there has been a huge guard's van filling most of a carriage. I can't put hand on heart and swear they don't have a small (ie, the normal size on recent slamdoor trains, which itself would take a fair few bikes) one somewhere, but I've never seen it.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 15 October, 2010, 03:50:43 pm
The WHR have a dedicated bike wagon.  Rower40 (and his railway-fu is strong) phoned in advance to make sure they would fit it to the train we were planning to use, which they promised they would.  But they didn't.  Where bikes and trains are concerned, anything can and frequently will go wrong.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 15 October, 2010, 03:59:58 pm
The WHR have a dedicated bike wagon.  Rower40 (and his railway-fu is strong) phoned in advance to make sure they would fit it to the train we were planning to use, which they promised they would.  But they didn't.  Where bikes and trains are concerned, anything can and frequently will go wrong.

But the WHR is narrow gauge with short wagons. That's a totally different propostion.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 15 October, 2010, 04:29:20 pm
I don't think Murphy cares about the gauge of the railway...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 16 October, 2010, 12:13:28 pm
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ? 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 16 October, 2010, 12:58:57 pm
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ? 

Train station, midnight, usual score.  Outside the Cornish pasty shop seems to be the defacto meeting place :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 16 October, 2010, 01:05:29 pm
I'll be on the train arriving at 22:35 , dammit, I may have to kill time in one of those pub places.... ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 16 October, 2010, 01:48:47 pm
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ? 

CrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 16 October, 2010, 02:00:37 pm
What time are people planning on meeting up in York on the Friday night, & whereabouts ? 

CrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D

You're going to carbo-load on her finest CAKE aren't you Tim, leave some for the rest of us!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 16 October, 2010, 02:16:54 pm
CrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D

This is my plan, also.  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 16 October, 2010, 02:48:39 pm
My arrival time in York is currently a bit undetermined, I've got no idea how busy the M25 is going to be on a Friday (fairly busy is my current thinking).  I'm going to have to drive from Croydon haf way around the M25, up the M1, the A1(M) and then off the A64 towards York.

Google Maps reckons 4 hours 20 minutes, which I don't believe for a minute.  Theoretically that would mean I could leave Croydon at 7-30 and still get to York on time, but somehow I think that would be pushing my luck!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 16 October, 2010, 03:23:54 pm
Current plan is to arrive York at 2145,adjourn to Pizza Express for a blunge-up till they close at 2300 & then wander to the station to digest 'till the off at midnight.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 16 October, 2010, 03:32:56 pm
CrinklyLion's house, sometime on Friday. ;D

This is my plan, also.  ;D
Add another one to the plan ..........  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 17 October, 2010, 09:56:12 am
My arrival time in York is currently a bit undetermined, I've got no idea how busy the M25 is going to be on a Friday (fairly busy is my current thinking).  I'm going to have to drive from Croydon haf way around the M25, up the M1, the A1(M) and then off the A64 towards York.

Google Maps reckons 4 hours 20 minutes, which I don't believe for a minute.  Theoretically that would mean I could leave Croydon at 7-30 and still get to York on time, but somehow I think that would be pushing my luck!

M25 will be busy, J23A of the M1 will be busy after 2PM also.  Best way to get South to North on a Friday is:
M40
M42 (bit of a PITA around the NEC, but the only bad bit on this route) to:
J9 (Tamworth Services)
A5
A38 North
M1
M1/A1 link (don't try the M18, as J2 becomes a pig after a certain time on a Friday)
A64.....

Trust me, I have done this journey (obv not to CL's house) far too many times over the last 5 years.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 17 October, 2010, 10:01:26 am
And the A64 will take you straight towards Grimston Bar roundabout, where you meet that A1079 (Hull Road).  Head into York, past B&Q which is on your right, and you're just a few mins from our front door!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 17 October, 2010, 03:31:11 pm
My arrival time in York is currently a bit undetermined, I've got no idea how busy the M25 is going to be on a Friday (fairly busy is my current thinking).  I'm going to have to drive from Croydon haf way around the M25, up the M1, the A1(M) and then off the A64 towards York.

Google Maps reckons 4 hours 20 minutes, which I don't believe for a minute.  Theoretically that would mean I could leave Croydon at 7-30 and still get to York on time, but somehow I think that would be pushing my luck!

M25 will be busy, J23A of the M1 will be busy after 2PM also.  Best way to get South to North on a Friday is:
M40
M42 (bit of a PITA around the NEC, but the only bad bit on this route) to:
J9 (Tamworth Services)
A5
A38 North
M1
M1/A1 link (don't try the M18, as J2 becomes a pig after a certain time on a Friday)
A64.....

Trust me, I have done this journey (obv not to CL's house) far too many times over the last 5 years.....
I used to travel from Near Dartford to Sheffield quite frequently and I found that M25(anticlockwise) M11, A14, A1 was the quickest route north on a Friday for me (Obviously add in A64 for York)

The A1 basically avoids towns and cities all the way up so is a lot quieter than the M1. They have also removed just about all the annoying roundabouts since I used to do that run.

This route does involve the Dartford Tunnel but avoids the Heathrow section of the M25, and is about 10 miles further than your original route but is another option
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 17 October, 2010, 06:05:08 pm
If I'm running around London from Northampton for the FNRttC I've found that the A14- M11 then around via Dartford is alot quicker than the M1 then around via Gatwick.
It may be further but there is a lot fewer holdups going that way.

An other option is to cut across M40-A43-M1

I'll prob go north from Northamptom A14-M1, I'll aim on ~4 hours as I dont travel fast (sub 60) on motorways.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 17 October, 2010, 08:10:42 pm
Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?

Look, I know no-one believes me, but I have travelled on the NYMR many times and every time there has been a huge guard's van filling most of a carriage. I can't put hand on heart and swear they don't have a small (ie, the normal size on recent slamdoor trains, which itself would take a fair few bikes) one somewhere, but I've never seen it.

I do believe you, but the fretting genes are strong in my maternal line, I just can't help it. 11 years in York, and hanging out with a lot of very laid back people, including some downright hippies, has mellowed me a bit, but it still surfaces sometimes... ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 17 October, 2010, 10:27:29 pm
Hmm, should we make a proper booking then?

Look, I know no-one believes me, but I have travelled on the NYMR many times and every time there has been a huge guard's van filling most of a carriage. I can't put hand on heart and swear they don't have a small (ie, the normal size on recent slamdoor trains, which itself would take a fair few bikes) one somewhere, but I've never seen it.

I do believe you, but the fretting genes are strong in my maternal line, I just can't help it. 11 years in York, and hanging out with a lot of very laid back people, including some downright hippies, has mellowed me a bit, but it still surfaces sometimes... ;)

I'm sure it would be fine, but it may be polite to inform them that we are intending to put lots of bikes on that service.

I'm not helping am I ;D

If anyone does contact them, then I would suggest phoning rather than email. I know a couple people who volunteer on preserved lines and they aren't exactly tech-savvy
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 18 October, 2010, 12:02:15 am
I'm sure it would be fine, but it may be polite to inform them that we are intending to put lots of bikes on that service.

I'm not helping am I ;D

If anyone does contact them, then I would suggest phoning rather than email. I know a couple people who volunteer on preserved lines and they aren't exactly tech-savvy

I make it two Trice Q's, a bent or two and ten or so upwrongs.

Any advance on that ??
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 18 October, 2010, 09:04:02 am
I won't be on the train, as I will be heading off to Helmsley to meet the missus and TLD.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 18 October, 2010, 09:27:04 am
I think we need those who are intending to use the steam train to return to make themselves known, since I'm sure there may be others with alternative routes home.

I'm certainly intending to use the steam train. (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/raised_hand_smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 18 October, 2010, 10:09:26 am
Me as well.  Choo choo !
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 18 October, 2010, 11:44:59 am
I too want a ride onna steam train
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 18 October, 2010, 12:28:16 pm
Steam for me!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 18 October, 2010, 01:44:05 pm
Steam for me, if my legs haven't fallen off in which case I may chicken out and catch a train to boro and then south.

And if the weather's completely grue I still reserve the right to hand over cake at the station and run away home to bed at midnight on the Friday!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 18 October, 2010, 01:51:25 pm
Nobody mentioned grues... those things are more deadly than wowbadgers!  Am I going to have to fit even more frikkin' lasers?  :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 18 October, 2010, 01:52:51 pm
Attendance

Aidan (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (now with added unlikelyness)
SlowCoach
Tiermat
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
tom_e
Uncle Phil (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)


Possibles are in grey.

People attending : 11 to 16
People returning via steam train : 6 to 10


I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 18 October, 2010, 01:56:41 pm
I believe that Tigerbiten is going on the choo choo too.  Since he's prob leaving his car at ours as well :)

Mcshroom, did you get sorted with parking?

Oh - and 'Slow'coach is a possibly at the moment pending confirmation of availability, I do believe.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 18 October, 2010, 02:54:20 pm
Attendance

Aidan
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat aka The Joker
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)

Possibles are in grey.

People attending : 12 to 15
People returning via steam train : 7 to 8


I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!

I'm steaming too ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 18 October, 2010, 03:53:16 pm
I'm defo getting the choo choo back to Pickering.

When I lived in Coventry as a kid, I remember there where choo choo on the mainline at the end of the garden.
Dates me a bit ..........  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 18 October, 2010, 06:32:14 pm
Well, I'm getting the 1100 from Whitby to Newton Dale Halt, hope to see some of you there. I shall not spend the whole trip in the guard's van saying "I told you so." :-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 18 October, 2010, 06:39:45 pm
Tickets now booked.

Arriving in York at 22:35 on Friday and leaving at 19:40* on Saturday.  Total cost £25.50

I gave the chap in the booking office the exact times I'd looked up and he quoted me over £40.... >:(    when I pointed out the discrepancy he just gave me the cheaper tickets with no explanation.

*If I get the earlier train it's £20 more, so I'll find somewhere to rest and have dinner.

Wondering if I can bodge an LED illuminated turnip lantern onto the bike  :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 18 October, 2010, 06:47:59 pm
Wondering if I can bodge an LED illuminated turnip lantern onto the bike  :)
I'm wondering about that to.

I also thinking luminous paint for my spare hand ............  :demon:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 18 October, 2010, 07:08:43 pm
Wondering if I can bodge an LED illuminated turnip lantern onto the bike  :)
I'm wondering about that to.

I also thinking luminous paint for my spare hand ............  :demon:

Heyyyyy.....Zaphod........ :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 18 October, 2010, 07:23:32 pm
..... completely grue......

Should that not be groo? :) Sergio Aragon&eacute;s Groo the Wanderer (http://groo.com/)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 18 October, 2010, 07:27:11 pm
I also thinking luminous paint for my spare hand ............  :demon:

Heyyyyy.....Zaphod........ :D

I was thinking Kryten...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 18 October, 2010, 08:59:18 pm
Attendance

Aidan
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat aka The Joker
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)

Possibles are in grey.

People attending : 12 to 15
People returning via steam train : 8 to 9


I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!

What cute little trains!  Yes, I'm planning to steam...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 19 October, 2010, 11:41:10 am
Had a look at the weather (ok metcheck is useless this far out but anyway).

Looks like it will be dry, but cold (around freezing!) and with a NW wind.

Wrap up warm  :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 19 October, 2010, 08:27:49 pm
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.


Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry.  :(  Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 19 October, 2010, 08:46:57 pm
*If I get the earlier train it's £20 more, so I'll find somewhere to rest and have dinner.

There's a general congregation round ours-ish, although I suspect that we will be pushing the limits of out bike-parking-in-the-living-room and may have to put some of them in (and this is a bit shocking) the back yard. 

I can provide plenty of coffee and tea, and probably a cake or two.  Fairly limited seating (i.e. there's only room on the sette for 3 - although I guess if Kim parks the streetmachine inside that's one more seat!), and you have to be prepared to tolerate fussmuppet cats and over-excited cubs.

Of course, this means you all have to wait for me on the way back as well as on the way there....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 19 October, 2010, 08:52:44 pm
I get the impression that, even without the fairing, Tigerbiten's trike is about the size of CrinklyLion's house.  This could be interesting...   ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 19 October, 2010, 08:59:47 pm
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle.  I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!

We're back down to 4 bikes in the house for the moment as my sister's has gone to the bike rescue for a scrub up and, unless I accidentally forget to give it to her, I'll drop it by her new place on Friday.  And we could stash three in reasonable-ish security in the bike bunker.

Of course, I could just tidy up some of the teetering piles of crap in the house to make some more space.  Not very likely though.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 19 October, 2010, 09:55:44 pm
Attendance

Aidan (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly (unlikely)
SlowCoach
Tiermat
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)

Possibles are in grey.

People attending : 12 to 15
People returning via steam train : 9 to 10


I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!

Nice work, Tim.  I've copied it into the OP too.  They are indeed very cute trains ;D

I rode back to Darlington from Newcastle last night (arriving home at 1.30 am), in a short-sleeved top and arm-warmers, no gloves.  I doubt I'd get away with that tonight - it's gotten a lot colder.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 19 October, 2010, 10:09:59 pm
I'm looking a more likely prospect for this ride, although I hardly dare mention it in the house.  Wife was very very keen on getting away, children have other ideas. She's very put out.

We will be occupied - at least one visitor - so can't throw the house open to StrangersInLycratm, but I can offer secure drop off space for bikes - we have a lockable yard and a shed with a normal-door-width entry. Oh, and we are round the corner from the station.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 19 October, 2010, 10:11:09 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 19 October, 2010, 11:38:47 pm
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.


Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry.  :(  Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(


Remind me, is home Driffield?  I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 19 October, 2010, 11:41:35 pm
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.


Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry.  :(  Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(


Remind me, is home Driffield?  I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?

So, are yuo coming along to this caper?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 20 October, 2010, 06:59:04 am
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.


Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry.  :(  Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(


Remind me, is home Driffield?  I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?

certainly will , im pulling out all of the stops to persuade my boss he doesnt want to meet in coventry that friday. Last time we had a meeting like this it started at 9.00am ( thats a 5.00am get up for me) and i got home after 8.00 pm!  if same happens theres no way i can do that and this ride really. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 20 October, 2010, 11:31:43 am
I'm choo chooing it to Pickering and riding home from there. If only to go on the train :thumbsup:.


Thats if I can get to the ride. My boss dropped into the conversation this morning that we might be having a planning meeting that Friday in Coventry.  :(  Knowing how these things go I have no idea if I will get back in time to get to York in any fit state :(


Remind me, is home Driffield?  I'll be riding from Pickering to Driffield at about 1pm or thereabouts, fancy giving me the guided tour?

So, are yuo coming along to this caper?

Afraid I wasn't planning on it, old chap.  I was down to do a DIY this Saturday, but may postpone it to next Sat if the forecast heavy rain materialises.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 20 October, 2010, 11:35:18 am
Yes I did mean you, bunbury.

Hope you can make it, Aidan :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 20 October, 2010, 11:44:28 am
I know you meant me, did I give some other impression? 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 20 October, 2010, 11:50:56 am
No - but both you and Aidan answered my question!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 20 October, 2010, 05:26:37 pm
There is now a possibility that I will not be able to attend.When I know for sure I will post again.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 20 October, 2010, 05:29:24 pm
That's a pity, jogler.  There'll hopefully be another series next year, though.

(even if they won't be as much fun as this one).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 05:33:54 pm
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle.  I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!


I reckon mine might, it's a very narrow track - although it might not get round the bend into the front room, based on my single memory of seeing into your house....  That would make another seat, although it would be at the expense of a fair bit of floor space, what with the boom and wheels and suchlike....

I would love to offer similar gathering space and refreshements, but I'm in a single room two floors up, with limited space to lock bikes outside. (annoyingly, there used to be a lovely little bike shed opposite, sheffield hoops with a tiled roof, and watchable from my window, but the Office of the Dean and Chapter, who owned it, tore it down to create a couple of car parking spaces..... :-[)

I do sometimes dream of a lottery win, just so I could buy a house, just so I could open it to random cyclists whenever I wanted to...

Fingers crossed for Jogler's continued presence.

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 05:36:44 pm
That's a pity, jogler.  There'll hopefully be another series next year, though.

(even if they won't be as much fun as this one).

It would be brilliant to keep this up as something semi regular. I see on the FNRttC blog that there may be a re-run of York-Cleethorpes, date to be arranged), but we could always do it anyway. And there must be other destinations we could manage. Hornsea, maybe?

Can you tell, I'm hooked?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 20 October, 2010, 05:54:07 pm
Spurn Point would be bleak good. 

We don't have to ride to the coast every time, either. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 05:57:49 pm
Something has just occured to me!

from Weds 27th to Sat 30th Oct, is the Illuminating York festival.

Illuminating York Festival Website, City of York Council, Visit York, York Events, Illuminating York (http://www.illuminatingyork.org.uk/)

Various sites around York illuminated artistically. 7-10pm

Anyone arriving in York before 10pm on the Friday might find a spin round the city worthwhile.  I gather that the Minster will be a central feature this year again - it's an amazing canvas for stuff like this.

A couple of years back, they created a 'coloured in' projection of the West Front and matched it to the stone, so that the figures wore coloured clothes, and leafy tracery was green and so on. It was incredible.

Last year there was a sort of real time animation in the Musuem gardens - a number of artists drew shapes and figures and little stories on computer tablets, and the results were projected live onto the walls of the Museum Gardens. It was magical.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 20 October, 2010, 07:00:46 pm
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle.  I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!
Thats the plan ..........  ;D

I may need to grab a couple of hour sleep before driving upto Hexham on the saturday evening.
But that depends on what time we get back to York and how knackered I am.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 20 October, 2010, 07:26:40 pm
Well, up until bedtime (about 7) there'll be the boys' room available for crashing out in (or you can play lego/k'nex if you prefer) so a fair to middling probability of a chance for a couple of hours kip there after we get back to York. 

I though I might lay in supplies of bacon/sausages/halloumi to make butties for tea for people, once we get back to York and before everyone heads off round the country.  I'll probably have a cake or left in the freezer, and we also have a load of takeaways within shouting distance, many of which also deliver :)

Tigerbiten, I'll PM you address and phone no so you know where to head for once you get to York.  If there's anybody else planning on killing time round ours on Friday evening or Saturday once we get back, drop me a PM and I'll send similar.  I'll be coming back from Ingleby Arncliffe with the cub on the Friday (pack up tent, brekkie with my Aunt, ride to Northallerton then catch a train to York) so should be back  :)by lunchtime/early afternoon.  Planning to snooze a bit in the afternoon, so let me know an ETA if you're heading here!

Actually, should we make sure that everyone has a mob no or two of other people going in case of last minute no-shows and/or getting lost?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 20 October, 2010, 07:29:22 pm
Actually, should we make sure that everyone has a mob no or two of other people going in case of last minute no-shows and/or getting lost?

This, copies of the route and a reasonable certainty that nobody's planning to form a high-speed recumbent splinter group are all excellent ideas that I heartily endorse.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 20 October, 2010, 07:33:25 pm
Oh gods - three 'bents, night ride and hills (allegedly, I still maintain that they're a figment of your imagination, or an optical illusion - just need to convince my legs of this).  Kim, are you getting a sense of déja vue?  Watch out for Wowbadgers!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 20 October, 2010, 07:38:12 pm
Badgers, like sharks and diesel, are something I am now extra vigilant about.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 08:29:52 pm
Actually, should we make sure that everyone has a mob no or two of other people going in case of last minute no-shows and/or getting lost?

This, copies of the route and a reasonable certainty that nobody's planning to form a high-speed recumbent splinter group are all excellent ideas that I heartily endorse.

While I may be associated with the word recumbent, the phrase 'high speed' rarely applies...

I'm happy to PM my mobile number round to people. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 20 October, 2010, 08:32:06 pm
I dunno... to quote Tiermat on most of the downhills on the way to Scab, "Look out!  The armchair's escaping!"
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 08:34:25 pm
I dunno... to quote Tiermat on most of the downhills on the way to Scab, "Look out!  The armchair's escaping!"

Ah, yes. Downhill.

I make up for it (or whatever the opposite of that is), on the ups...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 20 October, 2010, 08:45:43 pm
Ah, yes. Downhill.

I make up for it (or whatever the opposite of that is), on the ups...

Yeah, that's pretty much my recumbenteering style too.  50 tonnes of not-especially-aerodynamic German overengineering is offically A Bit Quick on the downs, merely reasonable on the flat and the less said about the ups the better...

Crashes well though  ::-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 08:51:30 pm
Ah, yes. Downhill.

I make up for it (or whatever the opposite of that is), on the ups...

Yeah, that's pretty much my recumbenteering style too.  50 tonnes of not-especially-aerodynamic German overengineering is offically A Bit Quick on the downs, merely reasonable on the flat and the less said about the ups the better...

Crashes well though  ::-)

I think that's the recumbent deal (not the crashes bit I hope!).  On holiday with 7 mates all on trikes, we keep pace fairly well - allowing for the unnaturally nuclear legs of a couple of the party.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 20 October, 2010, 08:53:44 pm
Yeahbut, recumbents also come in 'fast'.  I've failed to keep up with them.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 20 October, 2010, 08:58:24 pm
I'll PM my number round all the participants later in the week.  Not to worry - I've done this before, and I've yet to lose a rider.

As for the route - we follow the A169 all the way from Pickering to Whitby.  You can also pick up the A169 in Malton, so if in doubt, follow the signs for Malton, then Pickering, then Whitby.  I defy anyone to get themselves lost!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 20 October, 2010, 09:01:17 pm
I defy anyone to get themselves lost!

Now - is that a challenge you've set me... ?

Trying to sort things at work to come - I should know by tomorrow
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 20 October, 2010, 09:02:06 pm
I defy anyone to get themselves lost!

Now - is that a challenge you've set me... ?

Trying to sort things at work to come - I should know by tomorrow

There's always one ;D

Hope you can make it!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 09:02:50 pm
I've just splashed out on the OS map for Whitby....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 20 October, 2010, 09:03:59 pm
My speed is steady-ish, ~12-13mph rolling average without the trailer.

I would like to do silly fast, but I need too many wheels to do that.
If I could workout how to work both front and back brakes with one hand safely, I may give fast two wheel bents a go.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 20 October, 2010, 09:12:36 pm
My speed is steady-ish, ~12-13mph rolling average without the trailer.

I would like to do silly fast, but I need too many wheels to do that.
If I could workout how to work both front and back brakes with one hand safely, I may give fast two wheel bents a go.

You know there are single levers designed to pull two cables? For example:

Savage Brake Lever Alloy Double Cable (http://www.bmx.co.uk/Brake-Levers/Savage/Savage-Brake-Lever-Alloy-Double-Cable.Html)

Dimension Double Barrel Left Brake Lever Synchronized: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Leisure (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dimension-Double-Barrel-Brake-Synchronized/dp/B001GSKHNA)

I don't know how suitable they are as an 'only one lever' system - they seem to be designed for that, but I had in mind that they were a tandem thing...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 20 October, 2010, 10:22:28 pm
Right just got my travel plans sorted out(ish)

I'm going to be visiting family over the weekend so I'll be setting off from Rotherham on Friday. As always with visiting relatives I will now not be setting off until about 10pm so I'll have to park up somewhere (plan at the moment on a road outside an office complex just off the A59 - Holgate Park?) and shoot round to the station to meet everyone.

After getting on a bike in Pickering I have no further plans about the return leg  ;D

So barring mechanicals I'll see you Friday week  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 October, 2010, 12:47:43 am
I have started cake preparation (for this and Sunday's silliness) since the fruit shop yesterday had a gadzillion bashed bananas for very little money so I now have a not_small quantity of chocolate and banannaananananna cake (with chocolate ganache filling) in the freezer.  And two different experimental chocolate fridge cake recipes, which are probably going to work with Dearly_Beloved for QA porpoises.  I've got all the stuff for making a plenty of St Clements Cake tomorrow.  Coffee cake will have to wait til Monday, I reckon, since I've run out of CCCBs at the moment and won't get to town until Fri at the end of the day at the earliest.

Baking is very therapeutic sometimes :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 21 October, 2010, 07:32:44 am
I'm working in the assumption that, since Tigerbiten is driving to York and (presumably) parking up near ours, the trike will get parked up back in his vehicle.  I've looked at our front door, and remain deeply unconvinced that a 3 wheeler will get through it!
Thats the plan ..........  ;D

I may need to grab a couple of hour sleep before driving upto Hexham on the saturday evening.
But that depends on what time we get back to York and how knackered I am.

If CL's house is too busy there is a spare room at ours you are welcome to use (we are in Northallerton)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 21 October, 2010, 09:47:16 am
I have had a thought about the brew up, as we are going along the A169, doesn't that go straight past the campsite @ Pickering? If so wouldn't it be worth seeing if we could stash the tea making equipment there, or is that too far into the ride for a brew?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tom_e on 21 October, 2010, 10:27:31 am
Can I squeeze in for this one too?

We're on holiday in Danby for the week beforehand, so I was thinking of heading down to York in the Friday evening to join you for the trip up to Whitby.  So no need for the steam train, unfortunately :-\ (I'll either wait for family or potter back to Danby later)

Reading back through, departure from the train station at midnight, but early arrivals are accumulating at CLs somewhere??
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tom_e on 21 October, 2010, 10:27:55 am
And can anybody recommend a takeaway for a refuel on the way into York (from Strensall direction), ideally before I reach the drunks going WTF at my bike in the centre...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 October, 2010, 10:36:10 am
We have a 3 chinese takeaways, 2 chip shops, an indian, and 3 or 4 pizza/kebab shops within 0.3miles of our front door according to Google Mappery and what I can remember.  And 2 24 hour garages.  That's what you get for living in the student area!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tom_e on 21 October, 2010, 10:44:27 am
Aha, sounds pretty good.  Can you give me a location?  ta.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 October, 2010, 11:11:12 am
I just ordered some cycling longs.


Not winter weight ones though.  I mean, that would be silly.

edit-I sent a PM to (I think) everybody who might be parking/lurking/carb loading/defrosting and recovering at ours with how to find us.  If I missed you off, shout!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 21 October, 2010, 01:13:30 pm
I have had a thought about the brew up, as we are going along the A169, doesn't that go straight past the campsite @ Pickering? If so wouldn't it be worth seeing if we could stash the tea making equipment there, or is that too far into the ride for a brew?

I thought that seemed a bit early in the ride - and I'm not sure how well we'd be received, crashing into a campsite at 1.30 am... 

I'm just going to carry a stove with me.  As someone suggested above, people can carry their own water for a brew-up.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 21 October, 2010, 01:15:14 pm
I just ordered some cycling longs.


Not winter weight ones though.  I mean, that would be silly.

edit-I sent a PM to (I think) everybody who might be parking/lurking/carb loading/defrosting and recovering at ours with how to find us.  If I missed you off, shout!

Me! Me! My train arrives at 22.57, so I'll have an hour's kicking in York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 21 October, 2010, 01:33:22 pm
I've PM'd everyone my mobile number - I think.  Let me know if I've missed anyone.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 21 October, 2010, 03:47:33 pm
...I'm just going to carry a stove with me.  As someone suggested above, people can carry their own water for a brew-up.

I'll carry my gas stove, and a large(ish) gas cannister.  I will not be carrying vast amounts of water, so if you want a cuppa you'll have to donate some water.  I'll probably grab a pint of milk from somewhere near CrinklyLion's abode, since it would be silly to bring it all the way from the deepest south (and it might go off in a nice warm car!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 October, 2010, 03:55:16 pm
So, if Tim's magic pannier is going to be full of stove and milk (and an entire workshop's worth of tools from what I hear) and Deano's going to stuff the SuperCs with a stove etc, who is going to carry the cake, that's what I want to know!  I may have to bring a pannier and carry it myself  :o
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 21 October, 2010, 03:56:45 pm
I'll have room for a cake or two, there won't be that much stuff in there!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mcshroom on 21 October, 2010, 04:44:54 pm
I'll probably have room in my rack bag for cake, especially as I'll be wearing most of my keeping warm layers
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 21 October, 2010, 04:58:00 pm
I've just remembered to book Talisker into the cattery for a couple of nights!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 21 October, 2010, 05:12:30 pm
I've just remembered to book Talisker into the cattery for a couple of nights!

Can't you squeeze him into a bar bag ?   He'd match the Halloween theme  :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 21 October, 2010, 05:54:43 pm
...or teach him to balance on the boom of a recumbent, broomstick-style.

Oooh, now *that's* an idea.   :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 21 October, 2010, 06:59:07 pm
...or teach him to balance on the boom of a recumbent, broomstick-style.

Oooh, now *that's* an idea.   :D

hee hee!  Could you arrange a bundle of twigs sticking out the front too?  I'm sure I'm seen witches depicted riding bristles-first...

Um, not that I'm suggesting you're a witch.... 

I shared a house with a witch once.  She wore leather trousers a lot, and did stuff with crystals.

Someone remind me to tell the story of the stick when we all meet up....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 21 October, 2010, 07:09:20 pm
Obviously what's really needed is a wood-effect Bacchetta Giro.  "Pretending to be a witch" is a legitimate reason for n+1, isn't it?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 21 October, 2010, 07:46:16 pm
Obviously what's really needed is a wood-effect Bacchetta Giro.  "Pretending to be a witch" is a legitimate reason for n+1, isn't it?

Is there such a thing as an illegitimate reason for n+1?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 21 October, 2010, 09:15:39 pm
I'm still working on the design for the front of my jersey.  The back's finished (though not quite what I had in mind).

Sod's law dictates it'll be too cold for jerseys, after all this effort ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 21 October, 2010, 09:48:24 pm
I doubt I'll be wearing anything exotic, I've got enough issues and complexities just getting to the start of the ride!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 October, 2010, 12:00:01 am
It all sounds a bit suspiciously like fancy dress.  I was just round at a friend's house sorting out her printer, and she kept offering to lend me bat ears and witches hats and capes and stuff.  I'll just state for the record that I Don't Do fancy dress - the school silly dressy-up days (Comic Relief, World Book Day, random theme days) is one of the things I am incredibly glad that I have escaped by not being a teacher any more.  Although I'll absolutely defend your right to do fancy dress, if that's what you choose, of course.

She's now trying to persuade me to at least borrow some themed earrings.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 22 October, 2010, 12:07:46 am
I have a similar rule on fancy dress, but decorating bikes is, I reckon, fair game.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 October, 2010, 12:14:26 am
On the subject of decorating bikes, I thought of you earlier - we stripped a bike at the rescue and it had a googly-eye bell that got stuck in the bits for sale box.  Are you in any way desirous of acquiring of further sacrificial bells, or are you hoping that the streetmachine has had enough blood to slake its appetite for the time being?  I could keep an eye out for particularly silly ones. 

(We also had a fine collection of spokey-dokeys at one point)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 22 October, 2010, 12:21:16 am
There's a hopefully-not-too-sacrifical mirror occupying the relevant section of handlebar on the other side, so I don't think additional bells would gain much in bike-protection terms.  Also, while my Captain Dashboard tendencies are well documented, I'd like it to remain - on balance - a bicycle, rather than feature-creeping its way to becoming (to borrow a phrase from a drummer percussionist friend) a mobile multi-timbral percussion workstation with stereoscopic music stands.

ETA: Anyone pointing out that the Barbie horn was technically a woodwind weapon instrument will be shot.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tim Hall on 22 October, 2010, 08:08:00 am
While I'm not going on this ride, this talk of decorating bikes has me thinking.  This is how it should be done:

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_4-9WXGlMFks/SxQFxvB20DI/AAAAAAAAAow/q2K-F5ZCJK8/s512/IMGP0950.JPG)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_4-9WXGlMFks/SxQFlsnV2RI/AAAAAAAAAos/O2Ed_lUbHKQ/s512/IMGP0948.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4-9WXGlMFks/SxQHlnY3NQI/AAAAAAAAApA/_NV3OZHt5Po/s512/IMGP0981.JPG)

(apologies if you've already got this one. It's a long thread)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 22 October, 2010, 08:32:46 am
Incidentally, if anyone wants a lift up (and back) from Croydon region to this ride I'm happy to offer it, but with my Corsa there's only room for a bike or a cyclist inside the car, and I'm using my bicycle carrier for my bike on the roof.  I could probably transport someone with something like a Brompton, but for any larger cycle there isn't really the room!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 22 October, 2010, 10:42:18 am
Spurn Point would be bleak good. 

We don't have to ride to the coast every time, either. 

Playing around with BikeHike I think you could do a fairly decent ride from Liverpool* out to the Welsh coast at Conwy or Llandundo.  Easy train back to Liverpool via Chester.

Start from Birkenhead, down the Wirral, cross the Dee at Queensferry, over the Clywdians and Denbigh moors then drop down to the Conwy valley.  Approx 60 miles.

I may do a recce ride in the near future.

* Underground to Birkenhead, the ferry doesn't run late at night and the alternative route via Widnes-Runcorn bridge is a drag.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 22 October, 2010, 12:59:31 pm
OK - I've booked my tickets and I'm coming. Work will have to manage without me - I've decided I have a prior engagement... (this).

I will be leaving you at Whitby though and going home by train direct from there - missing the steam train bit out unfortunately. As you can't make bike reservations on the Whitby to Middlesborough and Middlesborough to Darlington trains I'm bringing some bin liners and a pink ribbon to convert my bike into a present if necessary  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 22 October, 2010, 01:17:10 pm
You'll be OK on the trains to Middlesbrough and Darlo - no reservations necessary.  I've only once been turned away from the Middlesbrough-Darlo train with my bike, and TBF that was 5pm onna Friday. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 22 October, 2010, 01:37:46 pm
Playing around with BikeHike I think you could do a fairly decent ride from Liverpool* out to the Welsh coast at Conwy or Llandundo.  Easy train back to Liverpool via Chester.

Those trains are somewhat lacking in room for bicycles, though, as we discovered on the Electric Mountain Ride (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36983.75).  There's a cubbyhole that has enough room for a lightly-loaded Streetmachine (so maybe enough room for a couple of road bikes and a Brompton).  Charlotte ended up strapping the Red Baron in the corridor, which worked fairly well, but only because it was low and narrow, and the train staff were in a good mood - I don't think you'd get away with doing that with a more conventionally-shaped bike.

Bikes, trains and Wales are rarely a good combination, it seems.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 22 October, 2010, 02:07:50 pm
Playing around with BikeHike I think you could do a fairly decent ride from Liverpool* out to the Welsh coast at Conwy or Llandundo.  Easy train back to Liverpool via Chester.

Those trains are somewhat lacking in room for bicycles, though, as we discovered on the Electric Mountain Ride (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36983.75).  There's a cubbyhole that has enough room for a lightly-loaded Streetmachine (so maybe enough room for a couple of road bikes and a Brompton).  Charlotte ended up strapping the Red Baron in the corridor, which worked fairly well, but only because it was low and narrow, and the train staff were in a good mood - I don't think you'd get away with doing that with a more conventionally-shaped bike.

Bikes, trains and Wales are rarely a good combination, it seems.

I've used the train from both Bangor and Conwy in the past with no problems, can't remember there being any issue with bikes, or any special provision for them. Last time was a year ago,  I may do it tomorrow if the weathers decent (and if I don't go to the House of Evil Drink tonight.....) 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 22 October, 2010, 03:18:58 pm
A couple of bikes should be easily doable.  An organised ride's worth much less so.  Of course, it's simpler when the awkward trains are on the way back from the ride, as everybody isn't trying to use the same one.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 23 October, 2010, 06:21:13 pm
Hoorah, my Whitby map has arrived!

<peruses map>

Hmm, a fair bit of pink squiggley stuff, and...

SWEET JESUS! A DOUBLE ARROW!

Oh thank god, it's downhill....


Also, either Whitby has a lot of lighthouses, or a salt-and-pepper-set museum.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 24 October, 2010, 08:58:14 pm
Well, I did say the only steep hill is down.

Should be fun at 5 am, in the dark.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 October, 2010, 09:06:25 pm
Hills? What hills? No, no hills to see  here - figment of your imagination. Or an optical illusion. Or something.


(La la la, fingers in ears, nope can't  hear you....)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 24 October, 2010, 09:33:41 pm
A double arrow hill is going to be interesting going down in the dark.  Make sure your brakes are working people. :-\

I've put the car battery on charge.  It probably had enough omph in it to start the car, but it's better to make sure that there's plenty of energy in it.  I'll have to have a bit of a bimble around to make sure that it's all still working OK, and I'll need some petrol.  A big heavy shop can be done at the same time, maybe I'll visit one of the supermarkets a bit further away for a change!

I've still not found my large camping cooking pot.  Bugger, I know it's around here somewhere. ???
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 24 October, 2010, 09:36:30 pm
Okay, it's sweepstake time:  Tim's car or my knee?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 24 October, 2010, 09:47:14 pm
Tim, I have battery booster and charger if you have probs with car on Sat.

Although I think I prefer Kim's knee to your car. Which knee? Does it have scars?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 24 October, 2010, 09:49:20 pm
Which knee?

Right one.


Quote
Does it have scars?

Sort of.  Not very good ones.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 24 October, 2010, 10:16:29 pm
The car shouldn't be a problem, I just haven't used it much recently.  It was serviced only a couple of months back, so once I've charged the battery fully, it should be totally OK.  The drive up to York should certainly replace everything taken out by starting it!

If all else fails I have full AA cover anyway, so I can always drag them out to get me wherever I'm going. :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 25 October, 2010, 09:03:01 am
just checked XCwether and forecast for Friday is mild (not dropping below 10C), no rain and wind from the south (between 12 and 18mph), so should be a good ride....

Must order ticket for NA to YRK
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 25 October, 2010, 01:24:17 pm
just checked XCwether and forecast for Friday is mild (not dropping below 10C), no rain and wind from the south (between 12 and 18mph), so should be a good ride....

Must order ticket for NA to YRK

If that forecast is correct I'll look out for the dancing elephants and the flying pigs...  ;)

I'm on the same train down as the Scarborough ride - gets into York 10:57? so I may see you on the train. This time I'll try not to send my bike first class...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 25 October, 2010, 01:29:49 pm
You'll be glad to know that Valencia has been to her second home today for a service, and has had new brake pads fitted.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 25 October, 2010, 02:12:42 pm
just checked XCwether and forecast for Friday is mild (not dropping below 10C), no rain and wind from the south (between 12 and 18mph), so should be a good ride....

Must order ticket for NA to YRK

If that forecast is correct I'll look out for the dancing elephants and the flying pigs...  ;)

I'm on the same train down as the Scarborough ride - gets into York 10:57? so I may see you on the train. This time I'll try not to send my bike first class...

Yup, same as last time, if the train is the same way round the bike spaces, and thus me, will be near the front again.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 25 October, 2010, 03:58:47 pm
Booked now, so no getting out of it (not without wasting £7!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 25 October, 2010, 05:47:26 pm
If all else fails I have full AA cover anyway, so I can always drag them out to get me wherever I'm going. :)

Could you ring them and ask them to have some tea ready at a suitable point on the ride?  Those big recovery trucks must have a power point for a travel kettle, and we could take turns to sit in the cab in threes and fours, with the heater on.... ;)

That forecast sounds suspiciously ideal.  If the wind could drop, or veer round completely for the afternoon ride back, that would be even better...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 25 October, 2010, 06:08:31 pm
Just done a 50 mile training run today to test the legs after the FNRttC to Whitstable as it was a purfect day to go out.
Sunny and just cold enough so I didn't overheat when working hard, very light wind.
Everything was fine bar one punture .........  :(
But better in the light when its dry, than in the dark and wet.

Met Office forcast is ..........
Early rain will clear on Wednesday, followed by sunshine and showers; then the week will end on an unsettled note with further rain at times, but it should be mild.
Wind from the south ~20mph.
So it may be wet and windy .........  :'(

See you all in York ........... :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 25 October, 2010, 06:23:21 pm
Can we have a check on who's bringing what? If I fit the touring bags, I can carry stove, meths, milk, etc (or just take on some of the inevitable cake...)

If not required to do any of this, I can leave the touring bags off, but I don't mind bringing them if it helps - in fact I may do so anyway to carry more layers.

I was going to buy some overshoes, but didn't get round to it, and a sudden financial uncertainty from last week means I'm loathe to spend more just now. I may wear some long socks, and perhaps improvise some wooly overshoes from some cheap socks that I can cut holes in for the cleats.  I seem to remember that once we were in the hilly stuff last time, my feet were perfectly warm.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 25 October, 2010, 06:28:46 pm
A double arrow hill is going to be interesting going down in the dark.  Make sure your brakes are working people.

That's Blue Bank. I've walked a tandem down it after a drum brake failure.

However, while there's not even a single arrow, the hairpin at Saltergate Bank offers equal potential for comedy when riding in the dark. Watch out for that one...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 25 October, 2010, 06:43:13 pm
While I have and intend to bring stovey titanium goodness, I suggest that nobody relies on me specifically for anything, on the basis that I'm going to have to make a last-minute decision as to whether my knee is up to doing the ride.


Regarding overshoes, I'm of the opinion that they are, for the most part, rubbish.  Your shoes still get wet eventually (though much less so on a recumbent).  Their main benefit is windproofing, and I dare say that you could improvise a reasonable functional equivalent using plastic bags (black ones, obviously, in fitting with the theme of the ride) and rubber bands.  Those overshoes you get at swimming pools might be a good bet, if you're in a position to swipe a couple between now and then.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 25 October, 2010, 07:30:41 pm
I'm intending to bring a largish saucepan (how large I'll post when I find it!), a gas stove and enough gas for several saucepans of water.  A wind shield for the stove, and spare matches in case the piezo lighter fails.  I'll have some additional water, but don't rely on it, I'll expect most people who want tea and/or coffee to supply some water as well.  Random instant coffee and tea bags (if you're fussy, then again, bring your own!), some sugar and a pint of milk (bought somewhere in the vicinity of Chez CrinklyLion).  I'll have my own random munchies, which I'll need to keep my blood sugar level at a sane level all night, and I suspect I'll be carrying some of however many cakes CrinklyLion cooks before that night!  I'll carry a folding mug, but if you want something to drink out of, bring your own mug, or be prepared to wait for someone else's to become available!

I'll carry my normal group ride maintenance junk, which is a couple of multi-tools, some adjustable spanners, a few common sized allen keys, a spokey, some spare cable inners, a set of V-brake blocks, three inner tubes (700C only, 23-35ish sized), possibly a spare folding tyre if I've got the room (again 700Cx25 which suits a lot of wheels), some tyre boots, a puncture repair kit, a decent pump (capable of >100psi), three CO2 cartridges, and a matching inflater.  They'll probably be a few other random bits in there as well, like assorted M5 nuts, bolts and washers, and a spare set of SPD cleats.  Probably also a variety of cable ties, and some insulation tape, both of which are handy "bodge-it" equipment!  I need to remember to dig out a lightweight cone spanner, and Shimano Freehub lockring tool.  It would be nice if I had a FiberFix Kevlar emergency replacement spoke, but the only place you seem to be able to get those is the states, so the postage is going to be annoying.

Aside from that, how much clothing I bring will depend on the weather, and exact selection may only occur on the night.  Probably thermal bib tights, and baggy shorts, a long sleeved YACF jersey, and other layers depending on the forecast temperature.  This could be a short sleeved jersey, thermal base layers, cheap thin Decathlon fleece, GroundEffect Two Timer etc  I'll most likely wear my Shimano MT91 shoes, since they're Goretex lined, so relatively wind and waterproof.  If I get the chance I'm going to get some flexible gaiters to seal the tops a bit, but it'll all depending on whether I can find anything suitable.

Aside from that, obviously the normal junk of lights, spare lights, spare spare lights, spare batteries (AA and AAA), GPS, camera, D-Lock & cable lock, mitts and/or gloves (depending on temperature), fleece hat (only if forecast to be very very cold).  If they arrive in time, I may bring a set of spare spare spare lights, but based on the forecast arrival, there will probably be a card at home when I get back (I intend to use these for people whose lights have failed, since they don't need a permanent attachment on the bike).

I'll only be using the one pannier, so can't carry too much stuff.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 25 October, 2010, 07:32:29 pm
I'll only be using the one pannier, so can't carry too much stuff.

 ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 25 October, 2010, 07:36:52 pm
I was going to buy some overshoes, but didn't get round to it, and a sudden financial uncertainty from last week means I'm loathe to spend more just now. I may wear some long socks, and perhaps improvise some wooly overshoes from some cheap socks that I can cut holes in for the cleats.  I seem to remember that once we were in the hilly stuff last time, my feet were perfectly warm.

Arch:- I've a pair of overshoes, size 6-7ish, that are to small for my sandals.
If you think they'll fit, I bring them for you.

I'll bring biscuits, fig rolls and cookies, and I'll have room for a couple of liters of water.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 25 October, 2010, 07:39:28 pm
Tim's magic pannier :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 25 October, 2010, 07:45:49 pm

I'll only be using the one pannier, so can't carry too much stuff.

That's some pannier!

Tigerbiten, thanks for the offer. My feet are 5s, and I gather overshoes are usually a bit mean fitting, so 6ish might work.  It's all a bit confusing, looking at the Shimano shoe size charts.

If you're happy to bring them, I'm happy to give them a try (and carry them if they prove un-useful)

But I might bring some suitably gothic plastic bags and rubber bands too, thanks for the tip Kim. It's the warmth, more than waterproofing, I'm after.

I'll have my own extra water, plastic beaker etc.  Sounds like I don't need to bring a stove/fuel?

If it looks like being anything like yesterday/today temperaturewise, the Foska jacket might get an outing, which would be fab.  But any warmer, I'll have to stick with the beat up yellow Endura.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 25 October, 2010, 07:48:34 pm
It sounds like a lot, but actually it's not too much.  Most of the clothes I'll wear, the only clothes which will go in the pannier are gloves, an extra layer of jersey/fleece/whatever and my waterproof top.  The lights, water & GPS all go on the bike, and the tools are surprisingly compact.  Food is one of the bulkier and heavier items, but that's because I tend to bring more than enough to cover any eventualities.  Running out of carbs could be a big issue for me (serious hypoglycaemia can be dangerous, and at a minimum will be annoying for the rest of you whilst I wait for my blood sugar level to rise enough that I don't fall off my bike!)... which reminds me, a glucometer!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 25 October, 2010, 09:30:47 pm
I'll be bringing a small gas stove & 1l pan, folding mug & will probably start with 2l of water. A thermos of coffee and a hip flask may also make an appearance  :P

Not sure if I'll be bringing the Rohloffed Nomad or the Orbit Routier. Both use 26" tubes so I'll bring my own. Tools, lights, spare batteries etc.

First aid kit , primaloft top for stops or if anyones feeling really cold. Would an emergency bivi bag be overkill ?

Clothing will be fleecy tights and either multiple layers on top, or the Purple People Eater (http://www.centralgroupuk.com/ebolcastle/extremecc/pathfinder.htm), if I'm feeling nesh.  Sandals with Sealskinz on the feet.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 25 October, 2010, 10:16:06 pm
I'm planning a rack pack.  Spare tube, spare batteries, the dooberry for the security skewers and my miniscule bag of tools, a not-very-waterproof, probably some paracetemol and some brufen and a cafe lock.  Bottle of water in my solitary bottle cage.

I have bought some (checks what they were again) '3 season Biking Tights' from Corrinne Dennis, so unless it's particularly balmy the 3/4s might get to stay at home.  I might actually wear something with sleeves under my fleece, two pairs of socks and break out the full finger gloves - the amazing expandable Topeask rack pack does have hidden storage capacity if I need to stow layers.

And a not insignificant quantity of cake that I fully intend to palm off on other, faster, people.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 25 October, 2010, 10:22:44 pm
I'll have at least one Super C pannier - so I'll have my stove, some milk, and capacity for extra water (though by the sounds of things, that'll be complete overkill :)).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 26 October, 2010, 06:14:38 am
I havent planned what Im bringing yet, probably a single pannier or a rack pack, although I should find out from my boss today about if he wants this meeting on Friday  ( fingers crossed he doesnt) .   I reckon it'll take me 10 minutes to get planned and packed anyway cos most of the stuff I'll bring is either ready for use or easily to hand.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 26 October, 2010, 07:51:49 am
I'll be bringing whatever happens to be in the pannier at the time. On the Scarborough ride that happened to include a map of Norway, (just in case the navigational malfunction is kind of major)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 26 October, 2010, 09:20:15 am
I shall be spending today packing and re-packing my pannier, so shall be carrying batteries (AAA, AA and 18650), a litre of hot lukewarm water in a flask (which will speed up the coffee making), Starbucks Via coffee, spare clothing and tools/tubes (700Cx28-35mm, as I will be on the Dave Yates).

Ligthing wise I will have 4 front lights (yes 4!!!), a SAIK, 2*MTE and a Cateye single shot, along with 2*rear lights and my Exelite (oooo flashing blueness :) )

Anything else will be taken care of by a wadge on cash in my wallet, hopefully.....

I *may* have space to carry cake again....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 26 October, 2010, 04:57:33 pm
There is now a possibility that I will not be able to attend.When I know for sure I will post again.

I cannot now attend.
I hope you all have a really enjoyable night&day & shall look forward to reading the ride reports.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 26 October, 2010, 05:01:19 pm
Sorry to hear that, jogler.  There' ll be other rides.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 26 October, 2010, 05:04:59 pm
The Weather is looking a little indifferent at the moment, although the forecast is liable to change up to the last moment!

(http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/WhitbyForecastLateOct2010.png)
(Forecast for Whitby from XCWeather (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/Whitby)).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 26 October, 2010, 05:08:46 pm
The Weather is looking a little indifferent at the moment, although the forecast is liable to change up to the last moment!

(http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/WhitbyForecastLateOct2010.png)
(Forecast for Whitby from XCWeather (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/Whitby)).


Good god, according to that the wind really might start to turn and drop during the return leg.  That can't be right surely?  If it happens, I might have to find religion or something...

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 26 October, 2010, 05:54:47 pm
That looks alright to me - damp, but mild and with a tailwind.  Two outta three ain't bad.

Still, it's far too early to trust these things.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 26 October, 2010, 06:03:26 pm
There's, realistically, bugger all chance of the cub and I camping in whitby this week so no chance of a recce of the trains or early opening cafes. Sorry.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 26 October, 2010, 06:06:17 pm
No worries.  We'll play it by ear!  There'll be something open - Goths are supposed to be Creatures of the Night, after all.

You're still going away, though, CL?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 26 October, 2010, 06:13:46 pm
Dunno at the mo. Bit complicated.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 26 October, 2010, 11:14:08 pm
pfft, weatheronline says southerly gusts of upto 50mph. Flipping heck.

Dunno if I'll make it. Have permission from swmbo, but friend informed me it took him 2 days from recovering from what the hospital are doing to me tomorrow. (shoving a camera up my willy)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 27 October, 2010, 12:12:30 am
I'm becoming increasingly lacking in optimism about this ride.   :(

I did 43km this afternoon.  My knee started feeling a bit iffy about 20k in, and was aching (though not very painfully) for most of the last 10k.  That was with me taking it slow and steady, with several stops to rest it.  It's still achy and objecting to stairs now.

That's after precision jibbling of the bike geometry (the boom had rotated slightly in the crash, but not by enough to account for this), and without any lycra compressing the knee joint.  Which I reckon makes it unambiguously an injury, and only time will help.  The only other thing I can try is riding my Dawes again.  Assuming my elbow is up for it.  Maybe the upright position will make a difference, but I'm not optimistic.

Realistically, I see myself getting to Pickering without too much trouble, then suffering horribly and going at a snail's pace for the rest of the ride (which helpfully includes all the climbing).  That's without considering the journey back.  Fneh!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 09:36:28 am
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks).  I suspect abandoning on this ride is going to be a lot harder than it was on the FNRttC, given the lack of running trains.  It's a bugger, but there will be other rides, and several hours of agonising slow riding would be far from fun, to put it lightly. :(

I've got a very slight snuffle, but it's not much different than I had to do the FNRttC, and it didn't effect me then, so I don't think that's going to cause me any problems, luckily.

(I've updated the attendance list on Page 19 (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg751179#msg751179)).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 27 October, 2010, 09:52:53 am
What Tim said.   No use knackering yourself any further. If riding hurts then don't ride.

BTDTGTTS  :(     You know you're in trouble when you get Christmas cards from your private physio...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 27 October, 2010, 10:08:53 am
I'd keep the strain off the knee and get well sooner rather than risk it and buggering it up compleatly.

I went on a fifty mile ride on monday just to check my knees where ok after the FNRttC as one was hurting like mad at the end of it.
Happy to say everything is working ok.
So just a short ride today, ~20 miles, then nothing untill the ride.

See you in the new year prob.

Luck ............ :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 27 October, 2010, 12:45:00 pm
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks).

This ^^^^^

As a recent sufferer of knee problems, my experience says rest is the best cure.  I know its a shame to miss the ride, but there'll be others, but you only have one knee  ( well, you've got two, but you know what I mean ;D)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 27 October, 2010, 12:52:14 pm
Right!

At the moment I am a possible, but not particularly likely participant.   I have to be in Coventry early on Friday, but cant mitigate the early start by staying over the night before because of other plans for Thursday.  That means a silly early start and about 7 hours driving in total by the time I get home Friday evening.
Without factoring in the very long day and sleep issues, the time I am likely to get home possibly makes the logistics of getting to York awkward.
My turning up depends really on getting away at a reasonable time, so I get home early enough for an hours kip and a lift through to York.   I wont know until we finish, as its the kind of meeting that could be 3 hours or 12 hours long :(

Will post on here when it becomes clear
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 27 October, 2010, 07:02:56 pm
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks).

Astoundingly, it looks like it might...

I did the 43km loop again just now and while the knee's feeling a little tired (as is the other one, tbh), there's no actual pain.  Even on the stairs.

I think the only reasonable approach is to go out and attempt ~60km or so tomorrow.  If I can do that without trouble, I reckon I'll be good for Whitby.  If not, I'll be sensible.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 07:31:06 pm
Oh that sounds surprisingly promising. Good stuff. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 07:51:04 pm
That looks alright to me - damp, but mild and with a tailwind.  Two outta three ain't bad.

Still, it's far too early to trust these things.

At the moment, it's lucking pretty much dry, a significant wind, but largely a tailwind, and temperatures around the 10°C mark.

All very promising. :thumbsup:

XCWeather for York (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/York)
XCWeather for Goathland (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/Goathland) (a convenient location near to the middle of our journey over the moor).
XCWeather for Whitby (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/Whitby)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 27 October, 2010, 08:24:19 pm
Unless your upwrong miraculously solves all your knee problems, it sounds like you're going to be far better off letting you knee rest for a few days (or weeks).  I suspect abandoning on this ride is going to be a lot harder than it was on the FNRttC, given the lack of running trains.

As the voice of irresponsibility (I did 3 1/2 days of the E2E with a dodgy knee and lots of Ibuprofen), I figure if you've got enough gear to sleep warm, you're never more than 10km or so from the NYMR on the road over the Moors (and it's generally downhill) - in extremis you can always pile off to the nearest station and sleep until you hear a steam whistle. There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 08:27:36 pm
... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.

Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 27 October, 2010, 08:32:07 pm
... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.
Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.

Hmmm. In that case the best bet would be to go to Whitby and go back to York via Middlesborough. Takes forever, but you'd have no riding at all once you'd limped down to the NYMR.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 08:44:11 pm
... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.
Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.
Hmmm. In that case the best bet would be to go to Whitby and go back to York via Middlesborough. Takes forever, but you'd have no riding at all once you'd limped down to the NYMR.

Yes, it's the emergency option, and it's also damned expensive.

Whitby 8-52 to Middlesborough 10-18.
Middlesborough 10-24 to Darlington 10-54
Darlington 11-03 to York 11-32

Which takes 2 hours 40 minutes, and £24-80 is the cheapest fare.  If cost is a problem then you can do it for £11, but you have to wait until 16-05 to leave!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 27 October, 2010, 09:15:24 pm
Kim, IF you decide to ride (and you're the only one who can decide if that's a stoopid idea or not - I'm not being encouraging as that might warrant The_Look from a spork-wielding Barakta!) and IF your knee goes pop, if you get yourself to a NYMR station and hop (literally!) on a train back to Pickering I can probably arrange an emergency rescue from my little sis (who, funnily enough, is called Aunty Cake).  Have a look at the stations and the route and decide if the weather and the lungs rule it out as an in-case-of-emergency plan.  Small car, so it would only take one person+bike but she could bring you back to our place to wait til trains to Mordor, and assuming you've booked a sensible-ish time train back the bods riding back would be in York early enough for there to be a sufficiency of people to help get you and a bike to the station without you having to ride or walk it.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 27 October, 2010, 09:43:17 pm
Cor, thanks for that.  Barakta is in the other room at the moment, so isn't around to give anyone The Look.   ;)

This particular flavour of knee-fail isn't the going pop kind, so much as the steadily increasing pain-to-speed ratio kind, which isn't quite so bad for getting stranded in completely stupid places, even if it does mean trundling to slightly less stupid places at 8mph with lots of stops.

Obviously I'm not going to decide anything until I've done some more riding tomorrow.  If I'm reasonably confident that it'll get me most of the way across the NYM without complaining, I think it'll be okay.

This is, realistically, going to be my last serious ride of the year[1], so I'm slightly more inclined to stupidity than I would otherwise be.


[1] The Tunnels Ride doesn't count, as it's:  a) local  b) best not taken too seriously
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 27 October, 2010, 10:05:30 pm
Any chance of getting a bit of a roll-call of who is heading round to ours, with some kind of idea of times?

I know Tigerbiten is heading this way sort of early evening-ish, and lots of other people at various other points.

Tiermat, you may be interested to know that we have some cafetiere-ground (freshly done today) monsoon malabar in the fridge.  I don't know if this will influence your decision....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 27 October, 2010, 10:08:04 pm
Assuming I come, my train gets into York at 21:45, and I'll head over to yours then, so tenish?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 27 October, 2010, 10:17:06 pm
I also have a Very Important Question.

I went to buy CCCBs today, and they didn't have any plain ones.  What would the panel prefer to top their coffee cake:

1) Irish cream flavour chocolate coated coffee beans
2) ginger chocolate coated coffee beans

I s'pose I could make some of each.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 27 October, 2010, 10:28:25 pm
... There's still Pickering->Malton (and what a shame it is that the NYMR did not get that chunk of the line) but that's 8 miles the next day and as flat as a pancake to boot.
Except that Malton to York is replaced by a Bus Service on this Saturday, so you need to be able to convince the Bus Driver to let you take a bike on, which they don't have to.
Hmmm. In that case the best bet would be to go to Whitby and go back to York via Middlesborough. Takes forever, but you'd have no riding at all once you'd limped down to the NYMR.

Yes, it's the emergency option, and it's also damned expensive.

Whitby 8-52 to Middlesborough 10-18.
Middlesborough 10-24 to Darlington 10-54
Darlington 11-03 to York 11-32

Which takes 2 hours 40 minutes, and £24-80 is the cheapest fare.  If cost is a problem then you can do it for £11, but you have to wait until 16-05 to leave!

There are also direct trains Middlesbrough-York, so if you caught one of those, that may cut the price a bit. It'd also be easier to get a bike on, as the Trans-Pennine trains are usually pretty laissez-faire.

However, the steam option looks far more sensible.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 27 October, 2010, 10:29:49 pm
Any chance of getting a bit of a roll-call of who is heading round to ours, with some kind of idea of times?

I know Tigerbiten is heading this way sort of early evening-ish, and lots of other people at various other points.

Tiermat, you may be interested to know that we have some cafetiere-ground (freshly done today) monsoon malabar in the fridge.  I don't know if this will influence your decision....

I'm on the train which arrives at 22.57 - looks like t. and SC are on the same train.  Expect three scary-looking individuals shortly after 11.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 10:34:09 pm
On the subject of Cake, either would be fine with me, which isn't very helpful, but I suspect I'd happily eat both. ;D

As to arrival time, I'm a bit unsure about when to leave, let alone when to arrive.

Various computery things keep on telling me that the travel time to York from home is 4½ hours, but I don't believe this.  I have a magic GPS that supposed to know about things like traffic, but I can't use it all the way, since it will only last 3 hours or so on it's battery, and until I do some engineering to the car's electrics, I can't plug it in (there's no cigarette lighter fitted to the car), so I'm planning on keeping a bit of power for the last bit of travel into York (ps I may be looking for a power plug to charge this up before the return journey!)

If I left Croydon at 2pm, and it takes me five hours I'll arrive at 7pm.  If it takes me eights hours, I'll arrive at 10pm.  On past experience of driving long distances either duration is possible!  It's possibly a case of how early can I turn up and not be a nuisance. :-\
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 27 October, 2010, 10:38:23 pm
there's no cigarette lighter fitted to the car

You really don't use the car much, do you? :)

(I spent a delightful afternoon installing an extra seekrit always-on cigarette lighter socket in the back of the glove compartment on my last one.  Surprisingly handy.)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 27 October, 2010, 10:45:54 pm
I'll be back around lunchtime, if all goes to plan.  Bit later if it all goes a bit pear-shaped which, with the week I've been having, is not massively unlikely.  So anytime after that is fine!  I think my sister has made it up from Brighton to York in not that much more that 4 hours on occasion - although she has also taken 8 hours once. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 27 October, 2010, 10:54:04 pm
I'd prefer the irish cream thingies to ginger, given the choice.  I don't need gingering up any.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 27 October, 2010, 10:57:43 pm
...than 4 hours on occasion - although she has also taken 8 hours once.  

That's always the problem with car travel!

Interestingly, andygates Munky Maps on my Garmin has your address on it.  They're obviously some OpenStreetMap enthusiasts in the vicinity of York.  The Garmin has decided it can't find a route to York, probably because it's configured to find a bicycle route by default, and it probably wants to use the motorways!  If all else fails I can get this GPS out when in York, and use it to find your place, although driving whilst peering at a handheld GPS is probably not best advised!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 27 October, 2010, 11:02:39 pm
Last time I did a significant car journey, I made use of a Mk 1 lump of blu-tac to wedge the eTrex in a convenient position up against the A-pillar.  Worked surprisingly well once I'd told it I wasn't on a bicycle and found a more appropriate level of zoom.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 27 October, 2010, 11:18:51 pm
1) OK - I've been banned from wearing the halloween costume for the ride - apparently I'm quite scary enough without one.

2) Kim - do you want me to bring the tow rope just in case? It's been done before but you have to promise not to overtake down Blue Bank

3) If the station manager turns up at 11:45 again with a worried look on his face when he thinks he has a dozen cyclists on the station forecourt all heading for the last train of the night... the story is this time, folks, that we are all intending to catch that train  ;) That really will make his night...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 28 October, 2010, 07:56:17 am
Tiermat, you may be interested to know that we have some cafetiere-ground (freshly done today) monsoon malabar in the fridge.  I don't know if this will influence your decision....

How on earth can I say no to that? :)

Myself, SC and Deano should be there about 11, unless either of those two want to hang around the train station with the drunks :)

As for a bail out, Kim, Mrs T is due to meet me at helmsley on Saturday morning, in my renault scenic, I am sure, if needs be she can be persuaded to navigate a bit further towards Whitby (all the way if necessary)  and collect us to return to York or Northallerton, as needed....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 28 October, 2010, 09:19:11 am
I think I'll take advantage of being the most local person to the station and stay at home on the Friday evening to get a nap rather than detouring to join the party chez Crinkles...  ;)  What's the rendezvous time at the station?

Tim, once you're on the A64, which I assume will be your trajectory into York, it's pretty easy to find CrinklyLion's place - get the correct exit off the A64, the A1079, and then follow it in towards the city, and her street is only two turnings off that - we can suggest numerous landmarks to help you.  If you find yourself at a set of traffic lights facing the city walls, you've overshot.

Irish cream please, CL. ;D

Slowcoach, I have a vision now of you being dragged, screaming, backwards down Blue Bank by Kim on a tow rope.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 28 October, 2010, 11:22:56 am
Right, the cub and I are finally heading off for our somewhat abridge camping trip.  Don't know what signal I'll get, so I may drop off the radar til tomorrow.  Will check back in when I get back tomorrow lunchtime.  See you all tomorrow.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 28 October, 2010, 11:27:46 am
Right, the cub and I are finally heading off for our somewhat abridge camping trip.  Don't know what signal I'll get, so I may drop off the radar til tomorrow.  Will check back in when I get back tomorrow lunchtime.  See you all tomorrow.


Have a great time!  See you tomorrow...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 12:39:28 pm
The plan is to leave York Station about midnight, so rendez-vous a few minutes before then.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Uncle Phil on 28 October, 2010, 12:58:09 pm
I may be able to join all you good folks tomorrow night.  And if I do, I'll be looking to get back to Pickering on the steam line.

Rendez-vous in the taxi-rank/drop-off area at York station, right?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 01:00:28 pm
YHPM, Uncle Phil.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 28 October, 2010, 03:03:57 pm
Attendance

Aidan (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
andrewc (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
Arch (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
CrinklyLion's Friend (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Deano
jogler (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Kim (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)
Luke
mcshroom (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
MrCharly
SlowCoach
Tiermat
Tigerbiten (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
TimO (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain.png)
tom_e
Uncle Phil (http://jakal.sp.ph.ic.ac.uk/~timo/smilies/SteamTrain_Grey.png)

Possibles are in grey.

People attending : 11 to 16
People returning via steam train : 6 to 10


I've had a quick read through the thread, and I think that's the current status, although anyone who thinks their entry above is wrong, should tell me!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 October, 2010, 03:05:06 pm
I'm a now a probable.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 03:05:35 pm
Looks right to me, Tim.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 28 October, 2010, 03:16:43 pm
oooo getting jittery now about this, as I always do on the run up to such things.  The fact I am not working this week is not helping AT ALL.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 28 October, 2010, 03:36:27 pm
oooo getting jittery now about this, as I always do on the run up to such things.  The fact I am not working this week is not helping AT ALL.....

I'm trying to be MORE jittery than I am.  I was a bit nervous before the last one, with never having done a night ride, not knowing most of the people all that well, if at all, thinking about if I'd manage the return trip.  This time, I'm rather more serene, and I don't want to be over confident and end up forgetting something vital or not pacing myself.

I can still fret about us getting on the train, though, so that's alright.  ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 03:58:02 pm
Arch - can you guide us out of York?  I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 28 October, 2010, 03:59:50 pm
I wouldn't worry Arch, instead of just an armchair escaping, this time it will be a whole 3 piece suit disappearing off down the hill :)

At least I seem to have finally shaken off this virus so am not feeling completely carp, and I have my train ticket, just hope I can sleep tomorrow, during the day, something i didn't manage last time, even though I had had the week from hell @ work...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 28 October, 2010, 04:08:00 pm
Arch - can you guide us out of York?  I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.


I'm pretty sure I'll be coming, and it's an easy route. Getting out of york is the most complex bit, and three of us know that so well we'll probably fall asleep.

The turn off past Gate Helmsley is signposted for buttercrambe, then it is straight on until Malton.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 28 October, 2010, 04:15:05 pm
Arch - can you guide us out of York?  I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.


I'm pretty sure I'll be coming, and it's an easy route. Getting out of york is the most complex bit, and three of us know that so well we'll probably fall asleep.

The turn off past Gate Helmsley is signposted for buttercrambe, then it is straight on until Malton.

Yeah, we might as well use the same route out of the city as last time, as it seemed quiet enough!  Is that turn the one just before the Balloon Tree?  Or the one after it.  I'll have the map anyway.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 28 October, 2010, 05:43:09 pm
My plan is to get into York around 7-8ish.
Then maybe grab a couple of hours kip at CrinklyLion's
Or just natter ..........  :P

See you all tomorrow night ...........  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 28 October, 2010, 06:23:22 pm
I reckon 7-8ish would be a good time at CrinklyLions (anywhere else that would sound very weird... come to think of it... ;D).  I will probably raid one of the local takeaways for some grub, Crinkly, if you don't mind me stinking up your house a bit with whatever's available locally!

I've got a largish cannister of gas, the C250 one, bigger than the small cannister, but not as big as the huge one!  It should be sufficient for quite a few boil ups.  The pan is 1.7L, but I'm not sure how many cups of water that would be.  Three or four at a guess.  So even if I was cooking up the water for everyone, I'd probably be able to do it in four goes.

I'm going to pop to Sainsburys shortly, to stock up on munchies for the ride, food for when I get back here, and really won't want to go shopping, and something to eat on the trip up to York.  Are there any southern delicacies that I can bring up for anyone? ;D

Talisker eventually responded to being called in, and has been topped up with fishy cat food, and is of course sleeping it off.  What he doesn't realise is that he won't be getting back out again for several days, and a lovely trip to the cattery also awaits!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 28 October, 2010, 06:28:19 pm
I'm a now a probable.

I've upgraded you (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg759859#msg759859) to a darker shade of grey. ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 28 October, 2010, 07:01:52 pm
Are there any southern delicacies that I can bring up for anyone? ;D

Oh my.  Do they have white bread?  Sun dried tomatoes?  Meat other than Mammoth?

 ;)

Nah, we're alright.  York's first Waitrose opened today!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 28 October, 2010, 07:04:22 pm
I never quite recovered from Safeway going bust and (due to the high Morrisons density of the area) the one local to us in Sheffield turning into a Waitrose.  At least they still sold Henderson's.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 08:50:05 pm
Arch - can you guide us out of York?  I don't know the route to Pickering well enough to be confident, myself.


I'm pretty sure I'll be coming, and it's an easy route. Getting out of york is the most complex bit, and three of us know that so well we'll probably fall asleep.

Excellent.  I always seem to go past Clifford's Tower more times than I really should when I leave York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 08:51:02 pm
Just had a text from tom_e: he may meet us at the Crinklies, but he'll see us at the station if he's running late.

Back to packing...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 28 October, 2010, 09:35:05 pm
4 course meal, nice hot shower, proper coffee, extensive marble run collection to entertain cub - it's a hard life, this camping lark. Mind, I am about to go share a 2 man tent with cub and his cousin. Who are both octupuses.  I might be quite tired tomorrow!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 28 October, 2010, 10:38:17 pm
Decided to bring the Nomad as it has better brakes.  Pumping up tyres & pondering between saddlebag & pannier...

Should be arriving in York at 10:35,   hopefully rock up at Casa Crinkly shortly after, probably in time to turn around and ride back to the start !

Been a hectic week, so no decorations on the bike, still, I'm ugly enough for Hallowee'n anyway!

Doesn't look like we are going to get a nice starry sky though  :(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 28 October, 2010, 11:01:08 pm
I've a couple of skulls on the bike ;D

I need to pump the tyres a bit, and I'm packing a Trangia, meths, coffee, two bottles for water + space for two litres more, three cups, teabags, hot chocolate, glow sticks, sparklers, matches, a lighter, more glowsticks, train tickets, kendal mint cake, flap jack, general tool kit and innertubes.  Still room for cake, too.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 12:02:36 am
Nah, we're alright.  York's first Waitrose opened today!

I'm surprised at that.  Even Hull has a Waitrose!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: LindaG on 29 October, 2010, 08:26:13 am
Have a brill time tonight all.  I wish I could be there!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 29 October, 2010, 08:28:41 am
Have a brill time tonight all.  I wish I could be there!

You will be missed, unfortunately the big shiny flange will not be making an appearence (the front tyre is more than a little worn and I cannot afford to replace it until I get an outstanding invoice paid) but I will make sure we get plenty of photos.

My Dave Yates will shortly be adorned with a glowing green skull, and I may be taking my White Zombie T to wear when we get to Whitby.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: LindaG on 29 October, 2010, 08:32:40 am

the big shiny flange will not be making an appearence

 >:(

Quote
but I will make sure we get plenty of photos.

 :)

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My Dave Yates will shortly be adorned with a glowing green skull, and I may be taking my White Zombie T to wear when we get to Whitby.

 ;D ;D ;D  Superb!!  I bet you have so much fun.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: phil d on 29 October, 2010, 08:37:15 am
I never quite recovered from Safeway going bust and (due to the high Morrisons density of the area) the one local to us in Sheffield turning into a Waitrose.  At least they still sold Henderson's.
Safeway didn't go bust.  Was taken over by Morrisons, and some stores had to be sold on due to competition considerations.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 October, 2010, 09:16:58 am
I just tested out the gas cannister, and it works OK.  There's nothing quite so annoying as getting a brand new cannister out, and finding the valve has failed, and you can't get any gas out, and consequently your supper is going to be cold. :(

The weather looks a little bit less dry than was forecast.  Is there anywhere along the way which is going to be suitable to stop for a brew, or is at least out of the wind?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 October, 2010, 09:28:55 am
It's wierdly warm in York - max is supposed to be 16, and it was 13 at 6:30am.  Very windy, tho'.

The weather tonight could be interesting. Possibly warm and damp. The wind should be behind us for most of the way. The return trip could be tiresome, but wind is due to drop a little bit tomorrow.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 29 October, 2010, 09:50:48 am
Is there anywhere along the way which is going to be suitable to stop for a brew, or is at least out of the wind?

The only places I can think of are the portico at York Railway Station and I think that there is similar shelter at Whitby Station. One may be a little too early in the ride - the other too late. I'm sure we'll find a dry stone wall to cower behind somehere on the tops. owever these are more sparse on the North Yorks Moors than they are say in the Yorkshire Dales or Peak District.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 09:53:40 am
I thought of this earlier - but there's not much shelter on the road.  The best I could come up with was a small bus shelter in one of the villages off-route:

Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg740923#msg740923)

...unless anyone fancies carrying a gazebo.

Hopefully it'll be mild and dry enough for us to brew up at Hole of Horcum car park.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 October, 2010, 10:02:23 am
I don't think it will be anywhere near as cold as the previous nighttime ride. Wind blowing out stoves might be more of a problem!

As for somewhere to brew - hmm. Might just have to be somewhere that looks suitable between Malton and Pickering. A proper stop and feed before hitting the hills would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 10:15:48 am
Seems a bit early in the ride to me - but whatever everyone prefers :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 October, 2010, 10:22:20 am
Pickering is slightly past half-way, distance-wise. I think it would be a mistake to chow down *just* before starting to climb over the moors.

Based on speeds from the previous ride, I reckon we'll reach Pickering not long before 3am (but will have tailwind - so might be a lot sooner!).

That allows plenty of time for slow hill-traversing (walking) and still hitting Whitby 7/8am in time to watch the sunrise - the Abbey would be a good spot for those who fancy an extra hill.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: pcolbeck on 29 October, 2010, 10:26:25 am
A weather update for you. Grey and windy but dry still around Malton. Good luck at least it won't be too cold tonight.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 October, 2010, 10:51:38 am
The cold doesn't worry me, I was thinking more of the fact that the wind might be driving light drizzle into us, which could feel a little unpleasant.  That sort of thing is surprisingly tolerable when you're cycling, but less comfortable when standing around waiting for a cup of tea or coffee.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 29 October, 2010, 11:01:53 am
The cold doesn't worry me, I was thinking more of the fact that the wind might be driving light drizzle into us, which could feel a little unpleasant.  That sort of thing is surprisingly tolerable when you're cycling, but less comfortable when standing around waiting for a cup of tea or coffee.
Even heavy-ish rain is ok-ish, as long as you are working hard enough to keep warm.
Its the stops that are the killers when you cool down to far.

Packing the car and trying to remember what I've forgotten ..........  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Jaded on 29 October, 2010, 11:05:38 am
Windy as hell up here.  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 29 October, 2010, 11:12:02 am
Windy as hell up here.  ;D

Windy, but windy from the South here (Northallerton) just the right direction for the outward leg....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 29 October, 2010, 11:26:14 am
Met Office forecast for the Yorkshire area:-

Rain will spread from the west early this evening, clearing again by midnight.
The remainder of the night dry with broken cloud.
Quite mild with the strong winds easing.
Minimum temperature 7 °C.
Generally dry through Sat morning with some sunshine at times

So we may have a good night ............  8)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 29 October, 2010, 12:36:53 pm
Packing the car and trying to remember what I've forgotten ..........  :P

The bike ?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 29 October, 2010, 12:41:43 pm
I think it may pay us to get beyond the flesh pots of Pickering and at least up onto the escarpment before we have a main stop. If nothing else, we'll probably find a couple of dead sheep up on the tops to shelter the stoves behind.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 October, 2010, 12:51:10 pm
I reckon it's Deano's decision, when we get there, to decide exactly where to stop.  As Ride Leader (he started the thread!) he makes the executive decisions.  The rest of us just follow him like sheep. ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 29 October, 2010, 01:03:37 pm
Mrs T has decided, as she can't persuade me not to do this, that I should at least attend with some sustinence for myself other attendees.  To that end there is a banananananaaaaaa and ginger loaf cake in the oven, and some chocolatey oaty cookies are in the process of being made.....

As I previously pointed out there is a camp site on the run into Pickering, which should provide a nice sheltered area just off the road where we can make out brews....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 October, 2010, 01:24:28 pm
Right I'm off, all see you all in somewhere between 5 and 10 hours, depending on where I see you, and how bad the traffic is!

I've got paper maps, notes, and three GPSes (car, bicycle, and phone), so I should get there OK, eventually!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 01:32:39 pm
I prefer to reach agreement by consensus ;D

We can discuss it at CL's.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: clarion on 29 October, 2010, 02:10:54 pm
I reckon it's Deano's decision, when we get there, to decide exactly where to stop.  As Ride Leader (he started the thread!) he makes the executive decisions.  The rest of us just follow him like sheep. ;D

The only sheep I know who rides a bike is Mishun H Sugworth (http://homepage.mac.com/pfellows1/thisiswhy/index.html).  Well, and Oonagh Herdwick, of course.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Luke on 29 October, 2010, 02:11:49 pm
I really need to start packing and getting ready  ::-)

I get into York about 2115. See you all there.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 29 October, 2010, 02:16:01 pm
Setting off now.

See you in York.

Luck ...........  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 29 October, 2010, 02:22:55 pm
Hope you folks have a wheely good ride
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 29 October, 2010, 02:29:58 pm
FNRttS experience suggests that brewing up after the climb works well, as the kettle can boil while slower people tackle the hill.  That does require a convenient stopping place, though.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: pcolbeck on 29 October, 2010, 02:56:40 pm
Which on the A169 are unfortunately mainly at the bottom of hills.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 03:13:03 pm
FNRttS experience suggests that brewing up after the climb works well, as the kettle can boil while slower people tackle the hill.  That does require a convenient stopping place, though.

..hence my suggestion of stopping at the car park at Hole of Horcum.  Top of Saltersgate Bank. 'Tis a bit exposed if it's windy or rainy, otherwise perfect.  About 30 miles into the route, so a little over halfway.

There's a pub a couple of miles earlier (the Fox & Rabbit, I think) if shelter is required, or nip into Lockton village, where there's a bus shelter.

Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg740923#msg740923)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 29 October, 2010, 03:34:18 pm
We're back in York, having battled into the wind all the way from the A19 to Northallerton and had TPE fun getting on the train.  I got about 2 hours kips last night, and had a couple of glasses of wine with dinner yesterday so feel absolutely done in!  Off to bed - the cub's around to wake me up if anyone gets here while I'm still snoozing :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 October, 2010, 03:58:38 pm
I'm at Beaconsfield services after 60 or so miles, in one and a half hours of travel. Actually not too bad for the M25 on a Friday!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 03:59:43 pm
By the way, I have cheese & onion flapjack (or just cheese, for those not of an onion-y disposition).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 October, 2010, 04:00:40 pm
FNRttS experience suggests that brewing up after the climb works well, as the kettle can boil while slower people tackle the hill.  That does require a convenient stopping place, though.

..hence my suggestion of stopping at the car park at Hole of Horcum.  Top of Saltersgate Bank. 'Tis a bit exposed if it's windy or rainy, otherwise perfect.  About 30 miles into the route, so a little over halfway.

Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg740923#msg740923)
Sounds good. We can have a lighting competition; see whose lights will reach all the way across the Hole.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 29 October, 2010, 04:02:30 pm
I've just given my upwrong a much-needed clean and fettle.  It hasn't had any proper attention since the Exmouth Exodus, and it showed.

Knee's being rather clicky today though.  I reserve the right to bottle out at Mordor Central.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 29 October, 2010, 04:04:34 pm
a banananananaaaaaa and ginger loaf cake in the oven, and some chocolatey oaty cookies are in the process of being made.....

By the way, I have cheese & onion flapjack (or just cheese, for those not of an onion-y disposition).

And I have chocolate fridge cake, St Clements cake, coffee cake, chocolate and banananananananana cake, and a fruit and lemon and almond cake.

We aren't likely to get very hungry, anyway.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Luke on 29 October, 2010, 04:10:19 pm
I'm pretty much packed now.

I've decided to come on my tourer. I was going to bring the pomp which has much better lights, but it isn't very good in the wind.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 October, 2010, 04:17:49 pm
I've just given my upwrong a much-needed clean and fettle.  It hasn't had any proper attention since the Exmouth Exodus, and it showed.

<thinks>Ah - cleaning and fettling. Guess I'd better clean my wheels and make sure the brakes work.

Mordor Central being York? or <shudder> Pickering?

Unless this is a very different ride from the last York night ride, it will be gentle and knee-friendly.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 29 October, 2010, 04:31:02 pm
Mordor Central being York? or <shudder> Pickering?

Birmingham New Street.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 29 October, 2010, 04:32:10 pm
this isnt going to happen for me, im still in Coventry its been an intense day and we arent finished yet. My boss has just asked the canteen to bring some sandwiches. Reckon ill be here past 6.00  by the time i get home ill have been on the go for 16 hours or more, and im already knackered. Have agreat ride dont let the goths get you,  
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 October, 2010, 04:52:58 pm
Sorry to hear that, Aidan. We'll have to book another one for you.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 29 October, 2010, 04:56:24 pm
Hard luck, Aidan. There's always next year.

I'm about to try and escape from work early (well - when I'm supposed to finish) before someone brings me another job which simply "has to be sorted today". If they can't find me it will have to wait...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 October, 2010, 05:08:37 pm
this isnt going to happen for me, im still in Coventry its been an intense day and we arent finished yet. My boss has just asked the canteen to bring some sandwiches. Reckon ill be here past 6.00  by the time i get home ill have been on the go for 16 hours or more, and im already knackered. Have agreat ride dont let the goths get you,  

oh dear, you're not having luck with these rides are you?  Well, it'll make it all the better when you DO manage to make it.

Right, the trike's downstairs.  I have my touring bags, so that I can fit in all the maps I might need, water, tools, beaker, nutrition (if you can call chocolate raisins and jaffa cakes nutrition) etc.

I have a couple of subtle Halloweeny decorations (those Skully lights were a lucky find!), and if I can work out how to fix it on, something less subtle. I'm still wavering, but I might wear the Foska Bones, and carry something lighterweight in case I really get too hot.

I'll eat later, then try and get a couple of hours nap before breakfast.  See everyone at the station, probably about 11.30ish.

A colleague jokingly suggested brewing up in the layby opposite Fylingdales - I imagine that would have us investigated pretty quickly!  I like the idea of trying to light up the Hole of Horcum...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 29 October, 2010, 05:29:07 pm
I'm at home in Liverpool, my trains at 8:22 so I've time for pizza.

It's warm, but blowing a hoolie, and the clouds look dark & damp.....

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 29 October, 2010, 06:01:56 pm
Okay, I'm out.   :(

Knee is unstable and fatiguing and generally Not Happy, to the point where it's starting to object to the stairs.  I tried riding round the block, and it felt like I'd just ridden a 200.

It would be asking for it to try to ride further than the shops in this state.

I am Not Impressed.  I put skulls[1] on my bike and everything!   >:(


[1] Wilko didn't have any light-up patellas.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 29 October, 2010, 06:08:54 pm
 :( :(

Dammit,  that means I'll have to eat your share of the CAKE mountain !

Bad luck Kim,  feet up & a good book .  Think of us when you hear the wind & rain at 2AM.....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 October, 2010, 06:22:28 pm
bad luck Kim.  Next time, etc etc...

We'll raise a cuppa to you and other absent friends, assuming said cuppa doesn't get whipped out of our hands by the wind....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 06:41:22 pm
Bad luck, Kim and Aidan.

It's damn windy in Darlo - but wow! it's good when it's behind you. 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 29 October, 2010, 07:10:28 pm
I've stopped on the A38 for a quick 'visit' and to eat my tea. I've done around 180 miles so far, so hopefully not to much further to go.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 29 October, 2010, 07:39:59 pm
Oh Kim, that's a reet bugger. But probably a sensible choice :(  You'll have to come over one weekend and we'll ride to a steam train.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 October, 2010, 07:55:56 pm
Right, I'm logging off to go and lie down for a bit.  See you all at the station!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 08:04:35 pm
Sleep? Pah.  I'll just have nineteen cups of coffee.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Luke on 29 October, 2010, 08:31:07 pm
Currently on the train en-route to York.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 29 October, 2010, 08:53:53 pm
showered changed and packed, waiting for 10 to head off to the station, I may be a little OVERdressed :)

That has just reminded me Deano, coffeetime :)

Oh, and if you read this before heading for the station, and you know where they are, could you possibly bring those tights I paid you for 2 years ago :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 08:57:57 pm
Ha! I was just thinking about that on my way home from work.  They're packed - though technically you only paid me in January.  I should charge rent ;D

You'll have probably lost enough weight that they won't fit these days ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 29 October, 2010, 09:28:24 pm
We have a Tigerbiten in the CrinklyDen.  Well, technically we don't right now since he's gone to the chippy, but you know what I mean :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 29 October, 2010, 09:30:19 pm
Ha! I was just thinking about that on my way home from work.  They're packed - though technically you only paid me in January.  I should charge rent ;D

You'll have probably lost enough weight that they won't fit these days ;)

really? Was it only January this year I paid? Damn, should have held out more :) OK, see you on the train.

And I think you might be wrong about the losing weight bit (that's what 8 weeks at home, eating properly, does for you!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 29 October, 2010, 09:31:43 pm
We have a Tigerbiten in the CrinklyDen.  Well, technically we don't right now since he's gone to the chippy, but you know what I mean :)

Cool, I am just watching Cake Boss or some such tripe on the telly, awaiting a suitable time to depart, and sweating buckets as I am dressed to keep warm outside, which is too warm for inside :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2010, 09:35:22 pm
Aye, see you on the train, T.

Logging off now - if anyone needs to contact me, call/text my mobile.

See you all there!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 29 October, 2010, 09:39:17 pm
Just read this whilst waiting for the train. Bad luck, Kim. See you another time.

It's windy in Durham. Just been hit by a wayward advertising hoarding blown into me broadside on the ride to the station. No damage to me...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 29 October, 2010, 10:54:50 pm
Just read this whilst waiting for the train. Bad luck, Kim. See you another time.

It's windy in Durham. Just been hit by a wayward advertising hoarding blown into me broadside on the ride to the station. No damage to me...

But how's the bike?

I'm just having my breakfast...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 29 October, 2010, 11:04:23 pm
Barakta and I have dusted off the television and persuaded it to work. Not as fun but easier on the knees. Enjoy the ride. Or perhaps that should be sailing?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 30 October, 2010, 04:59:02 am
Tea stop on the moors, it's freezing !
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 30 October, 2010, 06:49:45 am
Whitby, cafe, breakfast :-)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 October, 2010, 06:51:08 am
Nah, proper northern wind that was. Mind, I did put my fleece back on. We have arrived :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 30 October, 2010, 07:30:04 am
yup greasy spoon, greasy coffee and cheap and nasty fry up, just the thing! :) sat outside now, having a fag and listening to the noisy gulls!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 October, 2010, 08:37:22 am
Well done all. How was the pull up the hill onto Fylingdales Moor ?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 October, 2010, 09:11:37 am
Hill? What hill? No, figment of your imagination. Or an optical illusion. Or something.


(I only walked up two, and one of those was cos I was being gentlemanly!)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 October, 2010, 11:22:33 am
Woo woo! Steamy goodness :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 30 October, 2010, 12:00:18 pm
The start at York station

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/5127775245_1bb08c6513_z.jpg)

Here's the hi res (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/5127775245_ccfe289b8e_o.jpg) version.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 30 October, 2010, 01:39:40 pm
Back home now, via 'Boro with Deano, SlowCoach and Luke.  Fell on a bit of luck getting the TPE, the platform was chocka, so we headed towards the front of the train (carriage A), as we got to the door where the wheelchair section is, the guard got out of his cab.  I was waiting for a "no chance lads, put them in Coach C(where everyone else was going)", instead, we got "No problem lads, chuck 'em on there". He even held my coffee whilst I man-handled my bike into the carriage.  turns out he is a keen cyclist too, result.  Nice quiet journey back to NA, say goodbye to Luke and now sat on the sofa with a wheatbag on my borked knee whilst TLD watches "Step Up"
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 October, 2010, 02:01:28 pm
I decided to trundle back from Whitby by bike, fancied a go at getting back up Blue Bank.  Arrived home at 1pm, very tired - that's the first 100miles I've done in a long time. Blue bank turned out to be not that hard; going down it in the dark, it looked like a cliff!.

Headwinds all the way. Hope the steamies get back ok.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 October, 2010, 03:52:16 pm
For those not familiar with the area here is the approach to Blue Bank down into Sleights as you go towards Whitby from Pickering. Its a doozy and then you have to go back up the other side (longer but not so steep). Not my photo BTW.

(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/81/04/810457_990b092a.jpg)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 October, 2010, 05:02:50 pm
Anyone heard anything from the abandoned waifs?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 October, 2010, 05:23:14 pm
The steamies are back :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 30 October, 2010, 05:25:28 pm
All safely in York and going our separate ways. A lovely ride blessed by good weather. Many thanks to Deano for organising it, to the wonderful Crinkly Lion for feeding me CAKE and to everybody else for the good company.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 October, 2010, 05:53:50 pm
I'm currently inhaling a chinese takeaway - I went straight out and fetched it, before I got comfortable.

very good ride again - great company, empty roads, and what would have been great views, if it hadn't been dark. Bit parky atop the Hole of Horcum, but the tailwind was welcome the rest of the time.  And it wasn't too bad on the way back.

Apologies to fellow steamies for dozing on the train - I suspect I did a lot of the head-jerking awake thing, and trust I didn't dribble at the same time...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 October, 2010, 06:07:21 pm
Did you ride from pickering and were the winds still bad? I found them very tiring
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 30 October, 2010, 06:09:19 pm
Oh and many thanks to the intrepid souls who hauled stoves up the hills and operated them in a gale!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 October, 2010, 06:22:36 pm
Did you ride from pickering and were the winds still bad? I found them very tiring

A bit wearing, but not awful - perhaps they'd died down a bit.

Yes, huge tanks to the brewmasters - that cuppa was just what was needed, even if we got a bit cold drinking it!

And of course, thanks people for all the cake!  Lovely!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 30 October, 2010, 06:27:50 pm
Fed.  Need more tea. Tired. Strictly on telly.  I'll post an account tomorrow. Now, tea and bed...

Great pic at the station BTW, cheers for that Mr Bunbury.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 October, 2010, 07:15:51 pm
Tired and sleepy and full of chips.  Tigerbiten managed to catch 40 winks and a brew and has headed off north, and TimO has been fed and watered and headed off south.  Well, I hope that's the direction they went anyway.  Having had about 6 hours kip in total over the last 3 nights/days, I might need to go nod soon.  Thanks all for a lovely night out.  Nice to see so many familiar faces again, and meet a couple of new forumites.  The round of applause for not wimping out down Blue Bank (and the fact that Deano deprived himself of the fun of the descent and stayed behind me in case I had a collywobble or a brake cable moment!) was appreciated.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: pcolbeck on 30 October, 2010, 07:49:22 pm
I want to do this ride from my house but perhaps on a moonlit summer night :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Aidan on 30 October, 2010, 09:41:13 pm
I want to do this ride from my house but perhaps on a moonlit summer night :)


Yes , we have to do these again next summer, we can pick you up on the way Pat :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 30 October, 2010, 10:23:20 pm
I'm still traveling, I stopped in one service station for a snooze, and I've just stopped to drink some Red Bull which will hopefully wake me up a bit!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 31 October, 2010, 01:26:55 am
Right, back in Croydon after something like 43 hours awake.  Time to go to bed, I need to be up in a few hours to pick Talisker up from the cattery.

Even though I've drunk a far amount of caffeine, I suspect I won't have much of a problem getting to sleep!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 09:09:30 am
I decided to trundle back from Whitby by bike, fancied a go at getting back up Blue Bank.  Arrived home at 1pm, very tired - that's the first 100miles I've done in a long time. Blue bank turned out to be not that hard; going down it in the dark, it looked like a cliff!.

Headwinds all the way. Hope the steamies get back ok.

Well done!  Just think, tigerbiten nearly hit 50 mph going down that cliff in the dark :o
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 10:38:44 am
Thanks, everyone, for a lovely ride.  I was pleased that so many came along, and that people had travelled such distances!  Thirteen seemed an apt number.

The moon-and-star-lit ride across the moors after the stop was magical.  Maybe the stop was a tad exposed, but never mind.  Cracking cafe in Whitby, too, where we saw a couple of real-live goths - the weekend wouldn't have been complete without them.

Stonking tailwind the whole way, as well.  Shame I forgot to put film in my camera, but I'll have a look at the two or three photos I took, and upload them later.

I got back to Darlo about 11, and dozed yesterday afternoon away.  Whitby works really well, if you're returning to the north.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 31 October, 2010, 10:50:45 am
Calling the ones we saw in the cafe "live" might have been pushing it a little, they certainly seemed worse for wear, I think I, with my b0rked knee, was in a better state than they were :)

After Deano and Slowcoach got on the train to Darlo we saw an number of "interesting" goths gathering at 'Boro station to head off to Whitby.  I must be getting old, as my thoughts varied from "OMG" to "Would you dare?" The guys with the long black leather trench coat, plastic foam hair extensions and face mask (ala a paint sprayer, but in black leather) was particularly amusing, to my mind at least :)

I am back in the land of the living now, knee and leg have returned to normal operation and I am looking forward to the next night ride, sometime next year.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 10:53:31 am
I want to do this ride from my house but perhaps on a moonlit summer night :)


Yes , we have to do these again next summer, we can pick you up on the way Pat :thumbsup:

There was talk of that.  I think a slightly longer route would work, so a loop somewhere would be called for.  It'd be fabulous in summer.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 10:54:43 am
Calling the ones we saw in the cafe "live" might have been pushing it a little, they certainly seemed worse for wear, I think I, with my b0rked knee, was in a better state than they were :)

After Deano and Slowcoach got on the train to Darlo we saw an number of "interesting" goths gathering at 'Boro station to head off to Whitby.  I must be getting old, as my thoughts varied from "OMG" to "Would you dare?" The guys with the long black leather trench coat, plastic foam hair extensions and face mask (ala a paint sprayer, but in black leather) was particularly amusing, to my mind at least :)

I am back in the land of the living now, knee and leg have returned to normal operation and I am looking forward to the next night ride, sometime next year.

Don't goths always look like that? ;D

I'm glad your knee's better.  Mine seemed a bit sore last night, I'll take it for a wee trot around the tracks today and see how I go.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 31 October, 2010, 11:39:51 am
That was a very fine weekend. :thumbsup:

I left home at around 2pm, expecting to have plenty of time to get to York, but actually arrived around 10pm after a somewhat knackering 300 mile route.  I broadly followed tiermat's route, which aside from traffic on the M25 and M40 was mostly not too busy.  Distance and time alone made it a bit of a slog.

Once arrived at Chez-Crinkly (with some help from TigerBiten, GPSes seem to have some issues with the roads around there), I had a couple of hours to be replenished with tea, and to organise and prepare myself.  Progressively more and more cyclists appeared, variously scattering bikes in the living room, and around the front and back of the house.  Eventually, just before midnight, we set off from CrinklyLion's house for the station, to meet up with final few people.

At the station our numbers swelled to fourteen, although Mr Bunbury only met up with us briefly before continuing on his way.  As mentioned earlier, the remaining thirteen seem particularly apposite for the ride.

The ride out across the flats of Yorkshire was very nice, and had only minimal traffic, unlike the FNRttCs I've done from London, for which the traffic rarely disappears before the first hour is completed.  Once we hit the moors, the hills really weren't too bad at all, far less trouble than I had been led to believe.  At times the skies cleared completely, and the moon and stars were very visible.  The weather throughout the night was actually far better than had been forecast, with absolutely no rain, and a stiff tailwind that blew us along.

That tailwind was fine whilst cycling, since it almost matched our speed, most of the time we cycled in almost still air.  When we stopped for 3amses, it was in a particularly exposed location, and the stoves were not all that happy with the wind.  I sat down in front of mine and together with my pannier and the stoves own wind shield, mine wasn't too bad, and boiled up a saucepan of water in only a few minutes.  I think four or five stoves were brought out, and some hot water was thrown away, since too much was available!  TigerBiten had a good supply of water, and indeed I think we only used a fraction of it for tea and coffee!  If we do this ride again, we really need to organise cookers and suchlike more carefully, there were far too many, and it would make more sense to have fewer cookers, and more things like wind breaks.  Of course much Cake was also consumed with our drinks. ;D

The ride down from the moors into Whitby was fun, although Blue Bank was not the final hill as might have been expected, and we had to struggle up another one before the final run in.  I was a bit nervous of the steep downhills, and didn't do near 50mph down Blue Bank!  The breakfast stop was very good, that was one of the best breakfasts I've had after a night ride, although it's unusual to meet anyone else in that sort of situation, after a night ride we normally have cafes entirely to ourselves.  In that one the locals almost outnumbered us.

After buying tickets for the steam train, we had a brief wander around Whitby, and along the breakwater out from the front.  There were an eclectic mixture of Goths, the exact definition of Goth is more than hard to pin down, and seemed to cover clothing from black and red through to pink, as well as styles including Japanese Amine, really big boots, black makeup, and what seemed to me to be neo-Victorian (something like a cross between traditional Victorian dress and steam punk).

The guard on the steam train seemed worried about whether we would be able to get all the cycles onto the train.  There were only a couple of additional bicycles on top of our seven, including two tricycles.  Actually we fitted them all on easily, with plenty of spare capacity, I've fitted almost as many cycles into the space normally provided for two bicycles on many modern trains.

The steam train ride was very pleasent, it takes a quite scenic run through the values, with the excitingly chunky terrain visible on both sides of the lines.  We went past the Pacific Class Sir Nigel Gresley at one station, which would have been an impressive train to stop and look at more carefully if we'd had the chance.

Once we got to Pickering, we continued on our way across the flatter lands of Yorkshire, the weather continued to be exceptional, and was very sunny at times.  Eventually we got back to York, having shed the odd rider along the way.

TigerBiten and myself arrived back with CrinklyLion, and had a brief chance to recuperate with tea and chips in my case.  TigerBiten got his head down for a couple of hours, although I didn't feel particularly tired at that point.  Eventually we all departed the CrinklyLion's good hospitality, and I left for the journey across the motorways of the UK.  I took a much more direct route than on the way up, a lot of it being via the A1(M) and M1, which wasn't at all busy compared to the journey on the way up.  I had to stop several times for a loo break, a bit of a snooze, and something to drink.  By the time I got back to Croydon I'd drunk three cans of Redbull and a can of Coke, which managed to keep me awake, but not as well as it has worked on previous occasions.  I guess being up for 40+ hours makes the body a lot less inclined to accept caffeine as an alternative!

Clearly I'm still a bit zonked, even after a nights sleep, with the extra hour from the clock change.  One of my neighbours just knocked on the door to tell me I'd left the car lights on, after picking Talisker up from the cattery (it's a bit dark and raining here in Croydon).

In summary, the ride from York to Whitby made a fine night ride, although possibly a little shorter than would be perfect.  I'd do it again, although the fifteen odd hours spent driving to and from the North was less than optimal, so I may need to consider an alternative approach to travel before doing that trip again.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 31 October, 2010, 02:46:07 pm
what seemed to me to be neo-Victorian (something like a cross between traditional Victorian dress and steam punk).

That chap on the train was spectacular, with the waxed moustache, goggles, kilt and steam-punk ray gun.

And it was the Nigel Greasley you saw?  I was looking the other way as we chuffed by, so I missed it, and then heard you mention it.  That was the loco on the postcard I sent my nephews.

A great ride, thanks to all who came, and to Deano for organising us.

I will have had the shortest ride to the rendezvous, unless you count the 2 miles detour on the way home from work to pick up the trike from the lockup. Anyway, we were all assembled in good time, and set off on our now customary route out of town (Although Crinkles and I fancy mixing things up a bit next time, to take in the Minster and Petergate).  Tim was saying how quickly we were out of town - well, compared to London, I suppose York is a village.  It's one of the joys of the place, that you can be out of town in about 10 minutes in any direction.

I think the A166 was even quieter than last time, and anyway, we were off it in no time and into the little lanes towards Malton. It started to get a little bit lumpy just before Malton - nothing, I know, to most of you, but we flatlanders notice these things. There was a nice descent into Malton, where I think I may have briefly exceeded the urban speed limit, and I also saw a milkfloat at work - at about 2am, that's an early pinta!

After Pickering the hills proper started, and it felt like it was uphill for ever, although it was the best sort of uphill for me, long and slow. I'd like to do that road up to the Hole of Horcum the other way sometime, and in the light, I reckon I could get a fair bit of momentum up.  Anyway, onwards and upwards, and my very misty recollection of the road from driving on it made me think that the carpark teastop would be just round the next bend - about 4 bends later, I was finally right!  The stove crew had been hard at work (the benefit of being a slowcoach, I didn't have to wait for hot water!), for which huge thanks - the hot drink was very welcome, even if it was a bit chilly while sitting still. The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..?  After some minor mudguard fettling and bolt replacement we were off again, and warming up a little on a few steeper little hills - although my impression is that we did that road in the right direction - the climbs were long and slow but manageable, and the downs seemed sharper and steeper.  Traffic was still light, although I think by now there were some early workers getting going, and I had an entertaining moment tackling the steep downhill and double bend at the foot of Fylingdales, at the same time as an overtaking car and an oncoming HGV!

One more long slow slog up, complete with decorated roadside Christmas tree (!?!), and we were assembling for the plumet down Blue Bank.  All the dire warning signs and soft verge escape lanes added to the atmosphere, and it was great fun - I let the trike have it's way until the first perpendicular-drop-with-bend, when the brakes went on. Tigerbiten is braver than me - actually, so are most people!  Another time, I might get a bit faster - I've no idea what my max speed was on the bank - the max overall was 38, but I don't know when I hit that. 

Once again my memory of the road turned out to be hazy, as I thought Blue Bank led us to the suburbs of Whitby, when in fact another substantial hill lay between Sleights and Whitby. However, once at the roundabout on the main road, we had it pretty much downhill all the way to the station and harbour.  CrinklyLion's patent 'Ask a Cabbie' method saw us recommended to a cafe along the seafront, which did indeed contain fryups and fishermen, albeit none of them playing the accordian or singing sea shanties. I'll forgive that, given the fascinating guest appearance of the living dead goths, and the size of the mug of tea provided.

Here endeth the ride out.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 31 October, 2010, 02:55:25 pm
The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..? 

Trying to live up to my wicked reputation by plying innocent ladies with strong drink.... :demon:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 31 October, 2010, 03:00:30 pm
And it was the Nigel Greasley you saw?  I was looking the other way as we chuffed by, so I missed it, and then heard you mention it. ...

It was definitely the Sir Nigel Gresley, I saw enough of the name to Google for it.

... The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..?

Likewise, I remember this, but have no idea who it was. :-[  Thank you whoever you may be!

...with decorated roadside Christmas tree (!?!)

That was one of the more bizarre things I saw on the ride (Whitby Goths excepted).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 31 October, 2010, 03:24:57 pm
The nip of slomething a little stronger I was offered helped too - in my befuddled state, I can't put a name to the provider..? 

Trying to live up to my wicked reputation by plying innocent ladies with strong drink.... :demon:

I'm always willing to be corrupted...   ;)  Many thanks!

And so, refueled with fried pork and other products, we came out of the cafe into proper daylight at last. Our first task was to head back to the station, and lay to rest my fears of not being able to get onto the train. After a bit of a wait for the ticket office to open, during which a few people dithered about their preferred route home, we piled in. Those with more immediate tickets to buy went first and then CL approached the desk and asked "Can we get 7 people and 7 bikes onto the 11am steam train?"

'Yes, sure!' came the welcome reply, and my fret level could go down to mere amber.  After that we retired to the station cafe to top up with tea, and discuss sujects as wide ranging as nuclear waste and tram tracks. CL was all for heading to the beach to build sandcastles, and I'd have joined her, but the tide was in, which severely limited the amount of beach available - so we took a stroll along the prom prom prom instead, where was was no band going tiddly-om-pom-pom, but there was an accordianist, even if he wasn't playing sea shanties.  Strangely for the seaside, there seemed to be no wind at all at that point.

Back at the station we released our steed from the railings we'd locked them to (With official approval - try that on a mainline station!) and wheeled round to the platform to await our chuff chuff. The guard did raise my fret level once again by looking dubious at the number of bikes and trikes, but of course there was bags of room, and we all got on fine. The train journey was very pretty in the autumn sun, so nice to see what it was we'd passed through hours earlier. We were also amused by the small goth playing peekaboo through a glass partition with a rottweiler dog - she was popping up and down from behind a seat, and the dog looked most bemused!

Decanting at Pickering we organised ourselves and after a short pause for Tim to imbibe some proper food (we'd all had cake on the train, and I was determined to last the day on confectionary alone), we were off, under the leadership of Uncle Phil, who led us along a small road, which got smaller, and smaller.... And then Tigerbiten got a puncture.  Fixed in short order, on we went again, and just before the road became a farmyard, I wondered what the screams were, coming from my right - glancing across, I saw the top of a roller coaster, and remembered that FlamingoLand is just outside Malton.  Across the farmyard (slightly muddy) and we were out onto proper roads again.  The wind was definitely stronger here than it had been at Whitby, but not as bad as it might have been, given the help we got outbound. At just before Amotherly we came across a dapper gent in cravat and tweed hacking home from a hunt - his horse seemed relatively unconcerned by the 'bents. The rest of the hunt was gathered at the next corner, and once past them we were heading for our last big climb of the day - as Uncle Phil put it, not the last hill, but the last hill of any consequence.

(rats, my monitor's having a fit.  I'll have to break off and restart...)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 31 October, 2010, 03:47:17 pm
And I'm back...

We stopped for a fortifying handful of coffee cake (after 60 miles or so in a pannier, it was beyond slicing) and then tackled the hill up the escarpement - another long slow slog, but a fantastic view when we looked back from the top.  Then there was a bit of undulation down to and past Castle Howard (and as someone else said before, the downs on that long straight were never enough to get you up the ups), and then one last glorious descent, where I was able to put my leaning into the turns into full effect, before we turned off towards Thornton le Clay.  Uncle Phil left us for the turn to York-ish, and I took over leading duties through Strensall Common, Strensall and Huntingdon, until the party split into tow - those returning to CrinklyLion's place to pick up cars, and those heading for the station, following me.  I said farewell under the west end of the Minster at about 5pm, and pedalled the 500 yards home, where my downstairs neighbour was just coming in too, and was suitably impressed by my tales of daring-do.  I dumped my bags, changed into trainers and went straight back out for a takeaway - any pause and I'd have settled down too much.  I was in bed watching Strictly Come Dancing by 6.30, and gave up trying to stay awake halfway through Casualty at about 9.30.

Although I was tired of course, and my legs ached a bit, I was pleased once again not to feel utterly exhausted, and today I'm fine. I took the trike back to the lockup, and fettled it a bit, tightening the brakes and sorting the cable sag that saw me struggling to get back into the big ring at one point yesterday. 

A great ride, and one we should repeat in the summer when we might get a nice view of the moors at sunrise.  I'll have to be fit enough to ride back too, at some stage....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 31 October, 2010, 03:58:38 pm
I'm wondering about another ride, already (calm down, knees, I'll give you time to recover).

Starting from york is convenient for transport (and people who live next door to train station), but limits rides a bit.

Alternative starting places:
Thirsk
Northallerton
Darlington

Alternative finishing places:
Knaresborough
Harrogate
Ilkley

I did map out a ride from Northallerton to Harrogate (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Northallerton-to-Harrogate (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Northallerton-to-Harrogate)), but that might be a bit hilly - it comes out at just under one mile of climbing. With a bit of route juggling, we could skwibble it to a mile, then it becomes the One mile in a Century route. Worth doing just for the name (but not before I have better gears).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Karla on 31 October, 2010, 04:46:22 pm
Spurn Head would be a good ride, though it'd top 100 miles once you'd ridden back to Hull to catch a train. 

York-Manchester would be 70 miles with lots of hilly Pennine goodness in the way.  Those who wanted could jump on the train between Huddersfield and Stalybridge, but the first train to stop at those stations on Saturday morning is the 05:26 from York, so that's probably scuppered that plan.

York-Darlington and York-Sheffield are two feasible options. 

If you take the route through Sunny Scunny rather than via the Humber Bridge, York-Lincoln is 75 flat miles and should be doable without a massive headwind.  For a shorter ride, Sheffield-Lincoln would possibly be a bit more interesting and would be about 50 miles.  Sheffield should be no problem transport-wise for the Yorkies, there are about 3 trains between them each minute (okay, I exaggerate).  We could go for a hillclimb at the end and wait for the plenty of nice cafes in Lincoln to open.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 31 October, 2010, 05:34:06 pm
Of course we could be terribly dull and do loops out of (and therefore back to) York (or other suitbale stations).... I know it's not exactly 'somewhere random' though.

I already have a vague idea of a ride that takes in the three big powerstations south of York. They should be nice and lit up at night, and it'll be virtually dead flat. Might even be able to get a service station coffee stop, although it would be annoyingly not half way, and more near the start or the end, depending on whether we did the powerstation in alphabetical order or reverse.  That would be a FNRpSR (Friday Night Ride past Somewhere Random)  Or York to the Humber Bridge and back - about a century I think.  Anyone fancy brewing up sitting on the bike lane halfway across the bridge?  (Hmm, I wonder if there's a byelaw forbidding cooking on bridges...)

If we wanted an easier distance ride to encourage new people to night riding, Hornsea is about 45 miles, according to a rough route I just made on Bikehike, via Market Weighton and Beverley - it could probably be extended anyway, to avoid the more major roads - I gather that the A1079 isn't fun at any time of day.  of course, too short a route, and you get there too early and there's no chance of a cafe open - I realise there's some skill to planning this stuff so that it works out! (or, we make friends with people with camper vans).

Anyway, I suspect night riding is off now until... March? April?  Plenty of time to have ideas, maybe do some daytime recce rides. I've so enjoyed the first two, thanks to great company and routes.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: LindaG on 31 October, 2010, 06:49:31 pm
[envious]You bunch of jammy gets.  It sounds fantastic. [/envious]

Count me in next time.  Deano?  Please to be arranging another tailwind.  We were driving to Scotland in that wind, hoping it was of the right persuasion for your needs that night. 

Oh - great photo by the way.  Taken by Bunbury, I presume, since he isn't in it?

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: rower40 on 31 October, 2010, 07:37:11 pm
[envious]You bunch of jammy gets.  It sounds fantastic. [/envious]
+1.
I did Derby to Lincoln during the daytime on Friday.  The last 12 miles, including crossing the Trent (which is quite big by then) are on a converted railway path, (courtesy of S*str*ns).  Quite surprisingly, this has very few gates and impediments to progress.  However, there's one awful bit - the A46 shared bridge over the River Witham between Skellingthorpe and Lincoln is a METRE wide between fence-protecting-bikes-from-fresh-air-then-splosh and fence-protecting-bikes-from-cars.  There are width-restricting gates before and after this bridge - so trikes and 'bents may have to find a different route.

Sheffield to Lincoln would use that route.  Facing into the sunrise.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 31 October, 2010, 07:39:30 pm
I already have a vague idea of a ride that takes in the three big powerstations south of York.

Power stations, you say?   ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 31 October, 2010, 07:44:47 pm

  However, there's one awful bit - the A46 shared bridge over the River Witham between Skellingthorpe and Lincoln is a METRE wide between fence-protecting-bikes-from-fresh-air-then-splosh and fence-protecting-bikes-from-cars.  There are width-restricting gates before and after this bridge - so trikes and 'bents may have to find a different route.


My trike is 780mm wide so would pass thru,I expect.
My 'bent is not wider than my DF bikes so I would expect the 'bent to be able to pass also.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 31 October, 2010, 08:00:25 pm
Fantastic ride.
The ride out to Whitby is a bit short for a full ride.
But the steam train to Pickering, then ride back to York makes it a nice round trip.

I hit my new highest speed down Blue Bank.
Only 49.6 mph.
So I only need 0.4 mph more to hit the 50 mph.
If I had known I was that close I may have gone for it.
But in the pitch dark, on an unknown road and my eyes streaming so badly from the air passing my head that I could hardly see where I was going, I'm happy with the speed.

But at some point I will crack the 50 mph barrier ..........  :demon:

Luck ............  ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 31 October, 2010, 08:03:13 pm
Only 49.6 mph.

Dammit.

Still, I'd never have managed that on my upwrong, anyway.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 08:23:24 pm
I already have a vague idea of a ride that takes in the three big powerstations south of York.

Power stations, you say?   ;D  :thumbsup:

There is a ride which was described to me as "A Tour of the Power Stations".

It's called Bernie's Long Flat one.  600 km ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 31 October, 2010, 08:27:11 pm
It's called Bernie's Long Flat one.  600 km ;D

Sounds like good training for the Bryan Chapman.  I'll put it on my list.   ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 08:28:47 pm
[envious]You bunch of jammy gets.  It sounds fantastic. [/envious]

Count me in next time.  Deano?  Please to be arranging another tailwind.  We were driving to Scotland in that wind, hoping it was of the right persuasion for your needs that night. 

Oh - great photo by the way.  Taken by Bunbury, I presume, since he isn't in it?



Aye.  Bunbury guided us out of York before he went off bunburying.

I'd agree, by the way, that the route was a bit short.  The trick is to find an extra 10 miles without adding gratuitous hills (though York-White Horse Bank-Pickering-Whitby would be a good distance...).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 31 October, 2010, 08:31:19 pm
I thought all hills are gratuitous
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 31 October, 2010, 08:32:43 pm
Well, I feel a bit more alive after  having two night's sleep in one go!

I'd had a bit of a rough week and wasn't particularly well, so our planned camping trip to Whitby didn't quite happen, although the Cub and I did get to go for the last night of camping at a relative's place up in Ingleby Arncliffe.  So my ride prep consisted of spending Wednesday night baking and getting camping kit together, Thursday was catching a train and riding (carting camping kit) to IA, setting up camp, getting fed enormous amounts of delicious food and a couple of glasses of wine, then attempting to sleep in a howling gale in a small tent with the cub and his cousin, who appear to have a not-insignificant quantity of octupus DNA, be made of 90% wriggle and to have more than the usual quota of knees and elbows each.  Then, after cooking up scrambled eggs on a camping stove, drinking enough strong coffee to float a ship, packing everything up and riding back to Northallerton station into a howling headwind whilst considering whether I felt in any way up to riding through the night later that day.  After a few hours sleep I emerged from my pit, feeling fuzzy, still somewhat hungover and ever so slightly dubious about the whole idea, and was feeling a bit :( already when Kim posted that the Knee really wasn't going to be up for this one - which was indeed a ride of many dodgy knees, what with Tigerbiten, Tiermat, MrCharly and Deano all suffering a bit too!

Then the first vistor arrived - it was lovely to meet (and feed builder's tea to) Tigerbiten for the first time.  A couple of hours later TimO appeared, somewhat later than he had hoped.  Kettles were boiled, much tea and coffee made.  Over the course of the evening I discovered that our house can squeeze in an extra 9 cyclists (so long as they don't all want to sit down at the same time) and that you can just about squeeze 3 bikes into the yard and get an extra couple of bikes and a 'bent in the front room and still get through the door - I wonder what that could mean for n+1?  More coffee and tea, much cake.  Shortly after the arrival of Deano, Tiermat and Slowcoach I decided that I probably ought to change out of my jeans if I was actually going to go, which I think probably counted as a decision to not bail before the start.  Mr Bunbury turned up to join us for the trip to the station and wave us off, and collect the camping stuff that I'd borrowed.  At one point a slightly sleep-befuddled smallest cub wandered downstairs, took one look at the assembled mob, and burst into tears.  I made a silly mistake, trying to reassure him by introducing him to various people - obviously what I should have done was introduce him to tom_e's 'bent.  Silly mummy.  He didn't fancy joining us for a night ride, so I shovelled him back into his bed, said night night to Dearly_Beloved and joined in the general untangling of bike and funnelling them out of our front door. Slightly shockingly, although I managed to distribute 3 sorts of cake among the assembled personages, I had to deploy the secret storage capacities of the amazing expandable Topeak rack pack and carry some of my own cake!

At the station we found the remaining Yorkies, Arch and MrCharly, together with the 'best costume of the night' winner, McShroom, who I possibly met before on the Cleethorpes ride and Uncle Phil, who I definitely met on the that one.  A pleasant meander out of York, along the river path, where Mr Bunbury waved goodbye, and through Heslington took us to Hull Road (look out for the Daleks!), Grimston Bar roundabout and the A166 towards Stamford Bridge.  One of the lovely things about starting a night ride from York is that it's only a matter of minutes to get out of the street lights and traffic.  Surprisingly soon we were at the Buttercrambe turning, and off into the lanes - no howling wolves this time though.  The night was surprisingly warm and the wind pushed us along through the flatlands at a nice easy pace that even I could keep up with.  At a roadside stop to gather the masses together I decided it was just too warm for my Scarborough-level of clothing (a vest top and a fleece) so I joined Tigerbiten in the 'wear a t-shirt for night-riding in October' gang, which I was glad of as (by my standards) there were some not-flat bits on the way to Malton - nothing scary, but not exactly flat and it was quite warm work.  

Soon enough the bright lights of Malton were visible below us.  Down into town, where we gathered up again (and I took advantage of the stop to root around in the rackpack for paracetemol to contend with the slightly irritating nagging headached that I've had for about a week, and which wasn't helped by the tailend of the hangover)before crossing the railway line, over the bridge and along Castlegate, slightly surprising a solitary late-night drunk.  Being very law-abiding we got split up slightly when the last few stopped at the red light, and fortunately someone waited round the corner and called down a warning about the ambulance with flashing blues and no siren coming towards the junction and so we avoided an emergency vehicle/trike incident when the green light came on and the ambulance jumped its red.  

Out of Malton onto the A169, crossing the junction with the A64 where the unaccustomed sight of a few headlights in the distance made me realise quite how little traffic we'd encountered.  The tootle along to Pickering was indeed flat and straightforward, and perfect for night riding - I guess it gets a fair bit busier in the day.  Through Pickering, which always seems like such a terribly nice town to me, I was reminded of Wowbagger's comment that there's something very appealing about riding through the night past all those houses full of sleeping sensible people.  The empty lanes and dark countryside are lovely, but I quite like the occasional contrast of silent towns where you are reminded that most normal people are tucked up in bed - it makes the night-riding feel slightly subversive and just a bit naughty.  Then it was steady away towards a nice cuppa.  As I may have stated once or twice, there are no hills.  However, some of the optical illusions went on for quite a long time.  I realised that one of my front lights had stopped working leaving me with just the one which was fine on the ups, but when I saw many red lights disappearing in a "brow of the hill" manner rather than just a "you're so slow" way I decided not to wait until the brew up stop and stopped to swap batteries, only managing to drop one bit in so doing and I found it again quickly enough.

I was very impressed with the quality of the service for 3am-ses - Deano even took my hot beverage order whilst cycling along before heading off to stick the kettle on!  Tiermat was waiting on one of the climbs with an encouraging call of "mile and a half to a brew" - the dragon he speaks with forked tongue, as I'm sure it was further than that, but soon enough we spotted the collection of red lights, and Mcshroom (if memory serves) waving a light to point to the entrance to the car park.  Uncle Phil was indulging in an Audaxer's nap on the verge, Tiermat was soon doing battle with a wonky mudguard, and many people were boiling water for a brew - the advantage of being slow up the hills is that all this was well under way before I put in an appearance.  It was slightly breezy - I put my scarf and fleece back on, and even zipped it up, but even more shockingly Tigerbiten was witnessed ADDING a LAYER!  More cake, including an exceptionally nice bananananananana and ginger loaf made by Mrs T, and a very welcome cup of coffee was consumed.  I think we had a choice of 7 sorts of cake among us.  I too was offered a little tot of something, but the idea of boozahol was not a welcome one since I was only just starting to feel the cotton wool head clearing....  With relatively little faffing we were out on the road again, possibly because the best way to avoid the wind was to travel with it.  There were a number of entertaingly bendy and stabby downhills, but I think Arch is right in that the upwards bits of the optical illusions were generally of the slow but steady variety - although, in a somewhat shocking inversion of normal reality Tiermat (who was suffering from an injury due to an accidental leg/windowsill interface earlier in the week and from having got far too cold at the tea stop) actually decided to cross train for a bit of one, so for the first time ever I got to do the gentlemanly thing and hopped off to keep him company.  I'm sure normal service, with everyone waiting for me, will be restored by the next time.  We started to encounter the odd bit of early traffic, most of it somewhat perplexed by encountering random cyclists complete with glowing skulls, pumpkins and disembodied hands adorning their steeds.

Then there was the grand gathering up, in preparation for Blue Bank.  I might have been slightly nervous about this one, were it not for the fact that, obviously, there being no hills on this ride it clearly must have been a figment of my imagination.  I think I might have quite an active imagination.... I let everyone head off, as I suspect it must be quite annoying to ride down a good descent behind me but Deano hung back, despite me warning him that I might well stop unpredicatably - and reassured me that it really wasn't a problem if I felt it was too bonkers and wanted to walk it.  Partway down, with the disk brakes singing and pinging in the slighty alarming way that they do on downhills, I stopped to make sure that I could just before a particularly precipitous corner and made the schoolgirl error of checking how hot the rotors were - I am now Valencia-branded.  But I did stay on the bike and didn't squeal like a girl, and apparently they weren't actually waiting very long at the bottom for me - and I was greeted with a round of applause when I got there.  The climb up the other side was the other one that defeated me, but compared with the KTTR ride (where I suspect I may have walked more than I rode!) I don't think I did too badly overall on the dealing_with_hillsfigments_of_my_imagination front.  The swoop down into Whitby combined the joys of downhills, junctions, a bit of traffic and a lot of parked cars which was mildly unnerving after so many hours of having the roads more-or-less to ourselves but I'd got to the 'been up all night and a bit too tired to be scared' stage so quite enjoyed it.  We pulled up at the station, and Deano used my (tried and tested at Scarborough) technique for finding a cafe = ask a convenient cabby.  He recommended "Arbut's" - the same one suggested by my local-knowledge friend - just round the corner from the Magpie and along from the tattoo parlour.  The assorted bikes and trikes were locked into a fairly impressive bike tangle with and we invaded the cafe.  And a very fine fry-up it was too, accompanied by a vat of tea and taken in the company of a number of Whitby early-risers (presumably fishermen, although sadly for Arch with a fairly marked absence of Arran sweaters and sea shanties) and a couple of goths.

We headed back to the station, where I was dreadfully confused by trying to work out how many of us were steaming and consistently failed to account for everybody and make the numbers add up to 13 people getting home one way or another, possibly because I failed to count myself on more than one occasion.  The power of the interwebs on my phone provided us with travel information, and I think we got everbody sorted with timetable information to meet their needs.  The ticket office opened, and all those requiring tickets made successful purchases although the lady in the office looked slightly worried when I said I wanted 7 tickets and 7 bike tickets - until she realised it was for the steam train.  "Oh, that's no problem - I thought you were all going to try t oget on the 'boro train, that would have been a squeeze!".  We waved goodbye to tom_e who had decided that, having ridden from Danby to York then York to Whitby, he needed to complete the triangle and MrCharly who wanted to tackle Blue Bank in the other direction too.  The 'boro-bound gang, made up of Deano, Tiermat, Slowcoach and Luke departed on the 8:52 (which was a briefly tempting prospect, as 20 quids worth of ordinary rail tickets could have got me back to York by noon) and I went into the ticket office to check that we could lock bikes to the railings on the platform  The answer was a very cheerful yes (hah - stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Manningtree 'Mr Happy' station manger! (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=31874.msg616308#msg616308)) and came with a recommendation for the now-open Whistlestop cafe next door.  So myself and the remaining 6 nutters locked up the bikes and adjourned to the adjoining cafe to top up the tea levels.  I tried to persuade everyone that we should go for a paddle, but nobody was biting although they did agree to wander down to the harbour wall to admire the "salt and pepper pot collection" as depicted on Arch's OS map.
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I would have built a sandcastle, but the tide was right in and there wasn't really a sandcastle's worth of beach available.  We wandered back to the station to unlock the bike tangle once more, just about early enought to prevent Arch from developing a nervous tic at the thought of missing the train, which duly arrived in all its noisy steamy goodness.  
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There was a brief wait whilst it left the station for the engine to change ends, and a member of staff wandered over to look slightly concerned about the number of bikes and the size of the trikes.  However, once the train returned, the guards van swallowed them all up quite confortably with plenty of room left for people to still walk through and we found ourselves a load of seats and settled down to admire the scenery and, in the case of a few, catch a few zzzzzzzs.  The train stops at one point on a bridge where we had a rather perfect view of the river underneath.
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Unfortunately the absence of the reigning YACF pooh sticks champion (or indeed any sticks) meant that a quick game, throwing sticks out of the train window, wasn't on the cards.  We ambled along through the valley, looking out at the rather inmpressively lumpy landscape to either side and (in my case at least) feeling rather glad that the train was taking the strain for this section of the journey.


We duly arrived in Pickering, and managed to unload the bikes.
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A brief trip to the bakers provided emergency lunch rations for those who wanted, then a quick nip through the traffic to the very empty lane past the swimming pool and out of town.  There was one moment when a grumpy 4x4 really didn't want to hold back before turning the corner towards us but, confronted with Tigerbiten on the trike, sulkily conceded that he was just going to have to wait.  Shortly afterwards we also experienced the first mechanical of the trip - a flat back tyre on the Trice.  Since Tigerbiten was the TEC at this point he shouted ahead, and I shouted forward but unfortunately only Arch heard as the head of the ride was just out of earshot.  Not to worry, we stopped at a point where the road was slightly wider and TB set to fixing - I offered to help if he thought it would be in any way useful but unsurprisingly his fettling skills far exceed mine, so I just watched and sent a text to a couple of the others in case they were wondering where we'd got to.  Fairly shortly afterwards TimO appeared, just in time to deploy the CO2, followed by the others coming back to check that all was well.  Back on the road, which became smaller and smaller.  At one point I looked to my right and thought 'ye godz, that looks just like a rollercoaster, I must be imagining things!' before realising that I wasn't actually hallucinating, we were just passing flamingo land.  Then off onto a track that went through a muddy farmyard - I slighlty feared for the trikes, but they both survived and didn't look too splattered when we got out the other side, although I did see some mirror-cleaning - a NSTN-rating of 'Eek!', I reckon.  Past Kirby Misperton, and onwards to Amotherby where we stopped to refuel on coffee cake prior to tackling a somewhat significant optical illusion up Amotherby Lane, up which I plodded steadily and shocked myself by not being the last to the top - although in fairness, I was the first to set off.  Some fairly pleasant rolling terrain got us to the lumps around Castle Howard where I surprised myself again by not needing to use the 24" gear and was reminded of Deano's comment (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.msg745469#msg745469) about the very landscape telling of the landowner's arrogance.  

After Castle Howard there's a couple of rather glorious descents, marred only by the presence of some fairly humungous potholes, and since we were by now around 70 miles up and I was rather sleep deprived, I rather enjoyed them - being somewhat knackered apparently makes me rather braver.  Thornton-le-Clay was particularly notable for a completely splendid family of carved pumpkins on display.  Soon after, with 10 miles to go, we said goodbye to Uncle Phil to whom many thanks go for the navigation back to the flatlands.  Funnily enough, although it's very close to home, it's a bit of the countryside that I've never explored but Arch knew the way (and where to watch out for cattle grids) so all was well, and I can now say that I've been to Strensall.  We were starting to head into idiot York driver territory - at one point the shout of 'car up' came forward, shortly followed by much revving and an overtake.  "My mistake," I said, "should have said 'wanker in a scooby' up."

Through Earswick, over the ring road, and on through Huntington - funnily enough, I haven't been there for years until last week when I went to a post-funeral piss-up in the pub.  Down Huntington road where we split off, with Arch leading Mcshroom and andrewc Minster-wards and TimO and Tigerbiten following me back (through nasty gnarly traffic outside York's new Waitrose - the lentil-left middle classes are clearly out in force to support the venture) to the CrinklyDen where tea, chips and places to snooze were procured according to need.

I think I was in bed and asleep by 8, got 8 hours, woke up, drank some more milk and went back to bed and slept for another 8 hours and as a result although still not brilliant I actually feel slightly more human than I have for several days.  Huge thank you to Deano for organising the whole silly malarkey and MrCharly/Uncle Phil and Arch for navigational assistance, everyone else for the splendid company and conversation, and whoever booked the weather gets a gold star.  Delightful adventure - we must do it again sometime.  With Kim next time!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tom_e on 31 October, 2010, 08:34:34 pm
Thanks to all for a lovely ride up north.  I made it a loop Danby, York, Whitby, Danby in the end; it was a bit wild heading south over the moor into the wind to get to York, but lovely and civilised thereafter. Lots of cruising and chattering and the bare minimum of that grunting hard pedalling stuff to get in the way.

Blue bank had me foolishly going for it after saying I shouldn't, trusting the main-road surface to stay good when my light was erm, not quite reaching my stopping distance. GPS and wired computer agreed at around 80kph, which was pretty much bang on Tigerbiten's. Silly, but fun. :facepalm:

After hanging around in Whitby for a bit with folk, I finally convinced myself to get going back, and was rewarded with lovely single-track lanes along the north edge of Eskdale, even dappled sunshine for much of it.  And I was bathed and asleep in bed by 10:30am ;D, very civilised indeed.

Thanks again to Deano, and CrinklyLion for the warm meeting point (and handy kebab shop).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 08:46:03 pm
I thought all hills are gratuitous

Well, the most natural thing to do would be to head southeast-wards out of York, but then we'd be hitting the Wolds when we turned back north - and WVM hill.

(great reports, CL and tom_e).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 08:49:04 pm
Crap photos, but you might as well have 'em.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/5132646881_949741ebfa.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/5132646881/)
tiermat and crinklylion (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/5132646881/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

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outside the cafe in Whitby (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/5132646879/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr

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at Whitby station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30024450@N04/5132646853/) by dean.clementson (http://www.flickr.com/people/30024450@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 31 October, 2010, 08:56:08 pm
It's called Bernie's Long Flat one.  600 km ;D

Sounds like good training for the Bryan Chapman.  I'll put it on my list.   ;)

Actually, that reminds me - after we'd passed Fylingdales, I mentioned to mrcharly that we could continue the theme, and run a ride up to Menwith Hill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Menwith_Hill).  Gawd knows where we'd end up, unless the peace campers were willing to brew up for us.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: andrewc on 31 October, 2010, 09:57:48 pm
A few pics from Saturday morning while we were waiting for the choo choo...

Tired but happy

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CrinklyLion

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Arch at the station

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McShroom, minus Dracula cape...

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Uncle Phil, making sure that the wall doesn't fall down..

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Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Uncle Phil on 01 November, 2010, 11:07:27 am
Well, I enjoyed that! 

I had been hoping (foolishly, I suppose) to get home in time for an hour's nap before heading out for an evening's work, but there wasn't time.

On the drive to Doncaster, I had to pull over and have a ten-minute nap instead, or there'd have been some danger of falling asleep while driving.  Then there was an hour between sound check and playing, so I announced "I'll be in my Winnebago" and went and passed out in the back of the van.  An hour later, Keyboards came and knocked to wake me up and it was all go.  "You look like you've just woken up", said Front Man.  Funny that...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 01 November, 2010, 05:33:52 pm
fortunately someone waited round the corner and called down a warning about the ambulance with flashing blues and no siren coming towards the junction and so we avoided an emergency vehicle/trike incident when the green light came on and the ambulance jumped its red.  

And I must say, thank you for shouting out a second warning as I pulled forward - I think I'd heard the shout, but failed to register the meaning.

Nice pictures from everyone - I like the one where I appear to be sprouting an artificial arm from my hip.... My camera alas is still in the bowels of the Jessops repair system after I dropped it - it's been over a month now, so I must go and chase them up. 

BTW, there's a slight Kodachrome-iness about the colour in that pic of McShroom in front of the train, that coupled with the steam loco, gives it a rather timeless quality - give or take some technical fabrics and the helmet, it could be from anywhen from the 40's onwards.

My colleagues were all keen to hear how it went - they think I'm mad, but in a good way. "When's the next one?" my boss asked... 
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 01 November, 2010, 07:36:21 pm
Just in case anyone didn't get the original route, this (http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=eqgtadtlxnrwklam) is the GPS recorded track from York Railway Station to the Cafe at Whitby.

...and the return route (http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=ijllvhmejsbeddmp), which includes the steam train at the Whitby end, so you can't ride the entire way!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: thelazycyclist on 01 November, 2010, 09:08:03 pm
The start at York station

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Here's the hi res (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/5127775245_ccfe289b8e_o.jpg) version.

Well done you guys.  LindaG and I had a great time in Scotland but there's something about this photo that makes me feel that we really missed out by not going on the ride with you.  It's got a Usual Suspects / Dirty Dozen / Reservoir Dogs look to the lineup.  I particularly like Dean's pose.  He looks like the master of all he surveys.....I was just wondering what any passers-by made of this bunch of loons in the entrance to the station....
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 01 November, 2010, 10:38:36 pm
fortunately someone waited round the corner and called down a warning about the ambulance with flashing blues and no siren coming towards the junction and so we avoided an emergency vehicle/trike incident when the green light came on and the ambulance jumped its red.  

That was me!  I tried to flash the ambulance driver with my front light, but I'm glad you heard the shout.

That wee rise out of Malton was also where TimO caught me poncing about, trying to trackstand up the hill.  I hadn't realised anyone was watching...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 01 November, 2010, 10:54:05 pm
That was me!  I tried to flash the ambulance driver with my front light, but I'm glad you heard the shout.

Much appreciated :)  You really couldn't hear it coming from round the corner, and the reflections from the lights didn't give us much warning!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: tiermat on 02 November, 2010, 07:24:56 am

That was me!  I tried to flash the ambulance driver with my front light, but I'm glad you heard the shout.

think it must have worked (the light flashing) 'cos he did seem to take the caorner more cautiously than your average ambulance driver would at 3am..... :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 02 November, 2010, 07:53:39 am
I imagine that after driving across dead quiet and empty roads for some time, on seeing a bunch of cyclists (and we'd be hard to miss), the driver would have had the sense to wonder if there were any more around the corner, especially when going through a red light.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Uncle Phil on 02 November, 2010, 10:56:01 am
The driver would have only just set off from the ambulance station in Old Malton.  He was probably still asleep.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: damerell on 03 November, 2010, 05:24:48 pm
I missed you lot - Saturday morning at 1100 I was still fast asleep. Glad you had a good time.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: TimO on 03 November, 2010, 08:09:53 pm
I missed you lot - Saturday morning at 1100 I was still fast asleep.

... and you've only just woken up. :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 November, 2010, 01:53:43 pm
I just came back from Whitby as a passenger in someone's car, and from Whitby to Pickering we did the same route (but in reverse) as the ride.

In the cold clear light of a lovely autumn day, there's rather more figments of my imagination than I noticed at the time!  And the Christmas tree is still there  :D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 07 November, 2010, 01:58:56 pm
That's a definite advantage of night riding, that.  Especially if you have crap lighting, or don't climb fast enough for the dynamo to generate much in the way of useful power.  It's always steeper in the daylight.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 November, 2010, 02:41:19 pm
I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride  up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 07 November, 2010, 02:50:53 pm
What the eye don't see,the heart don't grieve over:as they say.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 07 November, 2010, 03:01:25 pm
I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride  up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!

So what we cyclists need (or at least those of us who find figments of the imagination to be more of a nuisance than some), is some method of turning the daylight off at will, in order not to be able to see what we imagine is ahead.  And then to turn it back on at the 'top' of the figment, to see the view.

I suppose closing one's eyes would do, although there might be issues around staying on the carriageway...

Did the drive bear out our therory of the slopes being steeper on the Whitby sides of the hills, than on the Pickering sides?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 November, 2010, 04:51:08 pm
Dunno about the steepness in one direction or the other, other than that the stabby corner on Blue Bank is proper stabby going up - a car a few ahead of us clearly struggled.  I don't remember any of the climbs, apart from the one after Blue Bank, seeming particularly bonkers (just a bit long!) but going the other way some of the downs seemed potentially quite entertaining.  I s'pose that we had the wind on our side too.

I heartily recommend tandem-stoking for the potential to ignore hills/traffic/scary big roads etc by the way.  Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 07 November, 2010, 04:57:54 pm
I heartily recommend tandem-stoking for the potential to ignore hills/traffic/scary big roads etc by the way.  Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared  :thumbsup:

I'd need an actual blindfold.  I've tried stoking, and hated it.  And the captain quickly gets fed up with all the 'watch out!' and screaming. With two exceptions: the Altena recumbent tandem bike (the recumbent seat just felt much more secure), and the MicWic back to back (facing backwards I couldn't see what was coming).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 07 November, 2010, 05:05:31 pm
Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared  :thumbsup:

This method can also be used for high-speed darkside descending, with varying degrees of success ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 November, 2010, 05:10:44 pm
I've tried stoking, and hated it.  And the captain quickly gets fed up with all the 'watch out!' and screaming.
Nah - you just need to find the right captain  ;D  

I heartily recommend the Stokerised by WowbaggerTM experience for nervous stokers.  The Thorn has a certain imponderable stateliness, and has been witnessed balancing uphill at a dizzying rather less than 2mph without falling over.  And Wow is fairly tall and broad of beam - so if you're a shortarse you can't actually see where you're going and have no call to screech 'watch out'!  I fairly rapidly adjusted to the staring at the scenery, and I'm a complete control freak usually.

Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared  :thumbsup:

This method can also be used for high-speed darkside descending, with varying degrees of success ;)

tom_e, I do believe, used a variant of it i.e. 'realise that your lights aren't as powerful as the road is steep' on Blue Bank thus showing his faith in the council's highway maintenance department at very nearly 50mph :o
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 07 November, 2010, 05:18:23 pm
I heartily recommend the Stokerised by WowbaggerTM experience for nervous stokers.  The Thorn has a certain imponderable stateliness, and has been witnessed balancing uphill at a dizzying rather less than 2mph without falling over.

It's uncanny - he's got a gyroscope hidden in his beard, I reckon.


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tom_e, I do believe, used a variant of it i.e. 'realise that your lights aren't as powerful as the road is steep' on Blue Bank thus showing his faith in the council's highway maintenance department at very nearly 50mph :o

There's a variation on that involving unexpected fog and headtorches that I've used to good effect, assuming you count shrieking and SillyHot brake discs as 'good'.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Tigerbiten on 07 November, 2010, 06:10:37 pm
Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared  :thumbsup:

This method can also be used for high-speed darkside descending, with varying degrees of success ;)

tom_e, I do believe, used a variant of it i.e. 'realise that your lights aren't as powerful as the road is steep' on Blue Bank thus showing his faith in the council's highway maintenance department at very nearly 50mph :o

I use a variation of that trick.
At any speed above 40 mph my eyes water so much that its hard to see the road.
So a lot of my high speed decents are just blink to keep my eyes clear and pray I pick up corners .....  :P
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 07 November, 2010, 09:38:42 pm
I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride  up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!

So what we cyclists need (or at least those of us who find figments of the imagination to be more of a nuisance than some), is some method of turning the daylight off at will, in order not to be able to see what we imagine is ahead.  And then to turn it back on at the 'top' of the figment, to see the view.

I suppose closing one's eyes would do, although there might be issues around staying on the carriageway...

Did the drive bear out our therory of the slopes being steeper on the Whitby sides of the hills, than on the Pickering sides?
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No theory - I'm sure I've mentioned it somewhere on here, and to Arch on the ride.  We went the easy way up them there hills.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 08 November, 2010, 05:32:24 pm
I did look at some of them and think "did I actually ride  up/down that?" In daylight I suspect I'd have given up on a few more. Lovely views tho!

So what we cyclists need (or at least those of us who find figments of the imagination to be more of a nuisance than some), is some method of turning the daylight off at will, in order not to be able to see what we imagine is ahead.  And then to turn it back on at the 'top' of the figment, to see the view.

I suppose closing one's eyes would do, although there might be issues around staying on the carriageway...

Did the drive bear out our therory of the slopes being steeper on the Whitby sides of the hills, than on the Pickering sides?
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No theory - I'm sure I've mentioned it somewhere on here, and to Arch on the ride.  We went the easy way up them there hills.

Excellent planning, I must say.  How clever of you to arrange the geology in advance so as to be so suitable....  ;)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 08 November, 2010, 05:54:59 pm
And the tailwind I so thoughtfully laid on :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 08 November, 2010, 06:06:08 pm
Well indeed.  Weather, landscape...

Hang on! Are you God?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Kim on 08 November, 2010, 07:10:28 pm
...and if so, I'd like a word about the design of these knees.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Martin109 on 08 November, 2010, 07:25:31 pm
I heartily recommend tandem-stoking for the potential to ignore hills/traffic/scary big roads etc by the way.  Shut your eyes, keep pedalling and leave it up to someone else to be scared  :thumbsup:

Except for the occasional need to indicate!  I wasn't scared, honest! ;D
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 08 November, 2010, 07:28:35 pm
...and if so, I'd like a word about the design of these knees.

Ah well, God can't be infallible I guess...

Oh...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Deano on 08 November, 2010, 10:34:55 pm
Well indeed.  Weather, landscape...

Hang on! Are you God?

Well - there are those who worship me..
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: jogler on 08 November, 2010, 10:48:35 pm
& others who consider you to be merely heroic
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: SlowCoach on 01 December, 2010, 01:21:13 am
I don't know if anyone else caught the local (North East) TV news tonight. Our route was on (looked like the top of Blue Bank). It's a good job we arn't planning to ride it this weekend - the snow looked to be several feet deep across the road  :'(
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to Somewhere Random 29/10/10 Whitby Weekender
Post by: Arch on 01 December, 2010, 05:36:23 pm
I don't know if anyone else caught the local (North East) TV news tonight. Our route was on (looked like the top of Blue Bank). It's a good job we arn't planning to ride it this weekend - the snow looked to be several feet deep across the road  :'(

I saw that road mentioned earlier in the week as having deep snow on it. 

We'd have got through.  The recumbents would just have bored a tunnel, using our whirling chainrings...  ;)