Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 856863 times)

rogerzilla

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3300 on: 29 September, 2014, 10:17:38 pm »
In the shop at work:

ICE CREAM'S
HALF PRICE

It still works...completely by accident!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3301 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:46:05 am »
Use (not to mention over-use) of the present historic tense.

As I write, some woman on R4 bleating about ancient Rome - "the generals are revolting" and "Caesar is getting quite concerned".

 :sick:

R4 should have a style guide banning this sort of dumbing-down.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3302 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:49:46 am »
Use (not to mention over-use) of the present historic tense.

As I write, some woman on R4 bleating about ancient Rome - "the generals are revolting" and "Caesar is getting quite concerned".

 :sick:

R4 should have a style guide banning this sort of dumbing-down.

I'd tolerate it in unscripted discussions such as this one, but not otherwise.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3303 on: 02 October, 2014, 12:11:16 pm »
Use (not to mention over-use) of the present historic tense.

The favoured tense of that unlikely alliance of radio historians and television football pundits.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3304 on: 02 October, 2014, 01:36:35 pm »
Is using the word "yourself" instead of "you" standard Scottish practice?
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hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3305 on: 02 October, 2014, 02:18:11 pm »
Well, people use 'myself' instead of 'me' all over BRITAIN.

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3306 on: 02 October, 2014, 04:02:25 pm »
Not to mention himself or herself as in "herself wouldn't stand for it".

I can't imagine using yourself or myself as the subject of a sentence, though.  Myself don't like cats is kinda weird, whatever you think about the furry bastards.
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hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3307 on: 02 October, 2014, 05:40:33 pm »
I think ***self is used more in the dative (and accusative) than the nominative. It is still wrong IME.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3308 on: 02 October, 2014, 06:41:00 pm »
It seems that Hanwell murder victim Alice Gross was victimed by her killer.  I don't have a favourite cause of DETH but being victimed would be high on the list of least-preferred.
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hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3309 on: 02 October, 2014, 07:18:09 pm »
As they said in The Shed, verbing weirds language.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3310 on: 02 October, 2014, 07:20:58 pm »
Anyway, murdering language is several degrees less serious than murdering people.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3311 on: 02 October, 2014, 07:53:45 pm »
My current level of tolerance may mean that the former leads to the latter.

What's wrong with 'which'1?

I spent some time muttering "which which which which which" this afternoon. My English-mangling-colleague probably thinks I'm accusing her of owning a black cat and riding a broom.

[1]: Them(sic) guards what(sic) was(sic) sent back for getting the cable holes made bigger, them(sic) what(sic) we brung(sic) in from China

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3312 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:15:21 pm »
As they said in The Shed, verbing weirds language.

The normally-Excellent Shed quoting the godawful "Calvin & Hobbes" does not render the whole thing either Big or Clever >:(
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3313 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:21:33 pm »
I think ***self is used more in the dative (and accusative) than the nominative. It is still wrong IME.

Maybe I'm thick or sleepy or both but I find it hard to think of any legitimate usage other than as a reflexive or as emphasis. Oh, and as -what would you call it in general? - a personal identifier, as in I'm not feeling myself, he did it himself, etc.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3314 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:24:18 pm »
Gah, people using i.e. when they mean e.g.  :demon:

Ah yes, Gah indeed!
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3315 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:25:21 pm »
As they said in The Shed, verbing weirds language.

This habit is spreading to the Japanese language too, apparently.

Chin suru - means make "chin" sound, the sound a microwave makes, so the meaning is to microwave something.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3316 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:30:10 pm »
I think ***self is used more in the dative (and accusative) than the nominative. It is still wrong IME.

Maybe I'm thick or sleepy or both but I find it hard to think of any legitimate usage other than as a reflexive or as emphasis. Oh, and as -what would you call it in general? - a personal identifier, as in I'm not feeling myself, he did it himself, etc.

"If you call back, ask to speak to myself". A former business partner  did that to such an extent that I had to get rid of him.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3317 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:31:47 pm »
I think ***self is used more in the dative (and accusative) than the nominative. It is still wrong IME.

Maybe I'm thick or sleepy or both but I find it hard to think of any legitimate usage other than as a reflexive or as emphasis. Oh, and as -what would you call it in general? - a personal identifier, as in I'm not feeling myself, he did it himself, etc.

"If you call back, ask to speak to myself". A former business partner  did that to such an extent that I had to get rid of him.

With extreme prejudice, I hope.
;D  Andrij.  I pronounce you Complete and Utter GIT   :thumbsup:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3318 on: 02 October, 2014, 09:47:52 pm »
Seen elsewhere:
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Thanks, Sam. My laziness has travailed once more :)

 ::-)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3319 on: 03 October, 2014, 03:51:58 pm »
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Having reviewed this matter for you, I have been unable to evidence that you were notified of a MEAF applicable upon early redemption of your mortgage account.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3320 on: 03 October, 2014, 06:33:02 pm »
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Having reviewed this matter for you, I have been unable to evidence that you were notified of a MEAF applicable upon early redemption of your mortgage account.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3321 on: 03 October, 2014, 08:17:49 pm »
As they said in The Shed, verbing weirds language.

The normally-Excellent Shed quoting the godawful "Calvin & Hobbes" does not render the whole thing either Big or Clever >:(

Now, now.

Back in the day, reading fare for visitors to The Smallest Room at Feanor Towers was Bloom County ( US political comic-strip, featuring Opus the penguin ); Calvin and Hobbes, and the RS catalogue ( when it was a single volume and you could design stuff in your head by leafing through the application notes it contained ).

Trufax.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3322 on: 03 October, 2014, 11:17:29 pm »
As they said in The Shed, verbing weirds language.

The normally-Excellent Shed quoting the godawful "Calvin & Hobbes" does not render the whole thing either Big or Clever >:(

Now, now.

Back in the day, reading fare for visitors to The Smallest Room at Feanor Towers was Bloom County ( US political comic-strip, featuring Opus the penguin ); Calvin and Hobbes, and the RS catalogue ( when it was a single volume and you could design stuff in your head by leafing through the application notes it contained ).

Trufax.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3323 on: 06 October, 2014, 07:42:05 pm »
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #3324 on: 06 October, 2014, 07:50:11 pm »
erm...

(Is mildly surprised that "like" and "noworramean" don't merit a mention, like)
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