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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4125 on: 26 February, 2016, 01:12:29 pm »
'Twas used in jest, sir, and purposely ungrammatical. But please have a good cringe if it makes you feel better.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4126 on: 26 February, 2016, 02:46:55 pm »
'Twas used in jest, sir, and purposely ungrammatical. But please have a good cringe if it makes you feel better.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4127 on: 27 February, 2016, 03:03:35 pm »
24/7/365.

There are only 52 weeks in a year.

Either 24/7/52, 24/365 or preferably just 24/7

Isn't it used not just to indicate that service is provided for 24 hours of every day - including every 'normal' weekend day - but to emphasise that it's also available on days like Easter Sunday or Xmas Day where many other services will be closed?

While it's clearly wrong, I don't mind it.

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4128 on: 27 February, 2016, 05:54:32 pm »
^^Closed on Monday, though.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4129 on: 02 March, 2016, 06:42:20 pm »
BBC: Russia and Syria 'weaponising' migration.

What's wrong with providing weapons or arming whoever was weaponised (which I couldn't work out from the BBC article)?

That's not what they mean - the migrants are not being armed, they're being encouraged/used as a means to destabilise Europe. More of a political/metaphorical weapon really.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4130 on: 02 March, 2016, 08:47:34 pm »
What's wrong with providing weapons...

Yeah, great idea - provide weapons to the migrants, preferably subsidised by the EU.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4131 on: 03 March, 2016, 01:39:39 am »
That would suggest he has a heart.  The evidence1 says otherwise.

1: Employimg Jan Moir, for starters.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4132 on: 04 March, 2016, 08:17:13 am »
"To progress"  used transitively, as in "to progress a project", is correct according to Chambers, but it still stinks of MBAland and thereby cringes me.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4133 on: 04 March, 2016, 09:24:43 am »
I said, "You said, 'He said, "She said, 'They said, "X."'"'"
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4134 on: 04 March, 2016, 09:53:13 am »
^^^ John Barth has a story that nests quotes to around 20 levels.  Kinda confusing.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4135 on: 04 March, 2016, 01:19:46 pm »
(Not grammar, and it doesn't make me cringe.)

In a similar vein to answering questions with 'Look...' and 'So...', I've noticed that 'I mean...' seems to be on the rise. Like 'So', this isn't an expansion or clarification or continuation on an earlier reply. I think I've noticed it most on American podcasts, but I've a feeling it's a grower: I found myself doing it yesterday. Apologies if this has already been covered.

Also, 'reticent' seems to be making a bid for the ground occupied by 'reluctant',and that does make me cringe. A bit.


Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4136 on: 08 March, 2016, 04:45:07 pm »
On a sales email from a company we rarely deal with, the representative hopes something about my well. I'm not sure what, as she does not finish the sentence (Hope your well (no full stop) ).  :facepalm:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4137 on: 08 March, 2016, 04:48:29 pm »
I thought clarion's recent post in the Gallery should be here.


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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4138 on: 08 March, 2016, 05:20:50 pm »
Yep. Definitely worth a cringe.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4139 on: 08 March, 2016, 05:37:32 pm »
But interesting too. Is it simply a written representation of non-standard speech or is it a mistaken use of a past tense for a past participle?
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4140 on: 08 March, 2016, 07:41:19 pm »
Some USAnian SCIENTIST used the word "automatize", which I think means "automate", on a recent episode of "The Infinite Monkey Cage".  I trust he will never be invited to appear on the Home Service again.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4141 on: 08 March, 2016, 08:21:23 pm »
But interesting too. Is it simply a written representation of non-standard speech or is it a mistaken use of a past tense for a past participle?

It's Yorkshire, innit.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4142 on: 08 March, 2016, 09:52:17 pm »
Some USAnian SCIENTIST used the word "automatize", which I think means "automate", on a recent episode of "The Infinite Monkey Cage".  I trust he will never be invited to appear on the Home Service again.
That's just a similar (mis-)construction to "burglarize".

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4143 on: 08 March, 2016, 10:13:15 pm »
I encountered "overwhelm" as a noun today. As in "to avoid overwhelm". It makes sense, but still :-\

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4144 on: 09 March, 2016, 10:37:37 am »
Agreed.  I still struggle with overcast as a noun, from weather forecasters.  I dare say it's been going for years but I still struggle!

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4145 on: 09 March, 2016, 12:20:32 pm »
Overcast
Broadcast
Typecast
Couchcast
Plastercast
Sarcast

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4146 on: 09 March, 2016, 05:04:29 pm »
I like "sarcast".  Charlie Brooker makes a living from writing and presenting sarcasts.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4147 on: 09 March, 2016, 06:10:13 pm »
I thought clarion's recent post in the Gallery should be here.



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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4148 on: 09 March, 2016, 07:48:08 pm »
Agreed.  I still struggle with overcast as a noun, from weather forecasters.  I dare say it's been going for years but I still struggle!
I'm only aware of them using it as an adjective.

But perhaps my horrible grammar filters have been protecting me!

(Just because one CAN noun an  adjective, I don't believe one always should. )
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4149 on: 09 March, 2016, 07:56:29 pm »
I don't have an issue with overcast as a noun.  "The bombers took off into a heavy overcast" or similar.  Clearly I've spent too long reading about the Gallant Fliers of the RAF as an impressionable youth.
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