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Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4550 on: 26 April, 2017, 06:23:37 pm »
Quote from: BBC Radio 2
6 modern artists we wouldn't have without Ella Fitzgerald

That bit is iffy (six/6: I'm not a stickler), but this grates:

Quote
Discover who's sound has been influenced by the wonderful Ella Fitzgerald

Yeah, the repetition of the full name in a short heading is pretty clunky, too.

So does the apostrophe abuse >:(
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4551 on: 03 May, 2017, 01:33:55 pm »
The Bank of England is being criticised by some cringeworthy pedants called the National Literacy Trust for not using speech marks around the Churchill quote on the £5 note. It's pretty obvious it's a quote though, surely?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/27/new-5-note-has-major-grammar-blunderbut-have-spotted/

Ed: I disagree with the aesthetics argument though. I think it would actually look better in quotes.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4552 on: 03 May, 2017, 01:54:08 pm »
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is being criticised by some cringeworthy pedants
...

You do know what thread you posted this on, don't you?

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4553 on: 03 May, 2017, 03:38:06 pm »
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is being criticised by some cringeworthy pedants
...

You do know what thread you posted this on, don't you?

:P

The distinction between cringeworthy and merely worthy is surely worth noting.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4554 on: 10 May, 2017, 11:53:25 am »
 Dammit I hate, loathe & despise the misuse of the word "optics" to mean appearance/appearances, etc.!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4555 on: 10 May, 2017, 04:05:12 pm »
"optics" used to mean appearance/appearances, etc. Dammit I hate, loathe & despise that misuse of the word!

It used to mean lenses etc...

I'm afraid your posting is a tad ambiguous...   ;) ;D :facepalm:

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4556 on: 11 May, 2017, 12:09:03 am »
Corrected . . .
"A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Type-Writer Girl, 1897

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4557 on: 11 May, 2017, 08:51:35 am »
On slate.com, a gentleman by the name of Phil Plait discourses on the "multihued cacophony" of iridescent clouds.  They must bang together or summat, like saucepans.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4558 on: 11 May, 2017, 08:53:48 am »
That's rather a nice phrase, though it does imply he doesn't like these iridescent clouds.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4559 on: 11 May, 2017, 09:25:15 am »
On slate.com, a gentleman by the name of Phil Plait discourses on the "multihued cacophony" of iridescent clouds.  They must bang together or summat, like saucepans.

Perhaps start a new thread called "Ban all metaphor now!" ? Or perhaps "Send all metaphors to the gallows!".

ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4560 on: 11 May, 2017, 09:38:11 am »
We can call it literal literalism.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4561 on: 11 May, 2017, 09:47:39 am »
We can literally call it literal literalism.

FTFY.  But Ogden Nash got there first with "Very Like A Whale" and one literally wouldn't wish to contradict him, in any sense of the word.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4562 on: 11 May, 2017, 09:48:25 am »
On slate.com, a gentleman by the name of Phil Plait discourses on the "multihued cacophony" of iridescent clouds.  They must bang together or summat, like saucepans.

Perhaps start a new thread called "Ban all metaphor now!" ? Or perhaps "Send all metaphors to the gallows!".

Ah come on. It's closer to malapropism than metaphor - unless he suffers from synaesthesia, of course.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4563 on: 11 May, 2017, 10:10:27 am »
I'm not sure suffer is at all the right word for synaesthesia.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4564 on: 11 May, 2017, 10:15:26 am »
We can literally call it literal literalism.

FTFY.  But Ogden Nash got there first with "Very Like A Whale" and one literally wouldn't wish to contradict him, in any sense of the word.
And Shakespeare got there before him

Quote from: Hamlet, Act 3 Scene 2
POLONIUS
My lord, the queen would speak with you, and presently.


 HAMLET
Do you see yonder cloud that’s almost in shape of a camel?
 

POLONIUS
By th' mass, and ’tis like a camel indeed.

 HAMLET
Methinks it is like a weasel.
 

 POLONIUS
It is backed like a weasel.
 

 HAMLET
Or like a whale.
 

 POLONIUS
Very like a whale.
 

 HAMLET
Then I will come to my mother by and by. (aside) They fool me to the top of my bent.—I will come by and by.
 

 POLONIUS
I will say so.

 

 HAMLET
“By and by” is easily said.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4565 on: 11 May, 2017, 10:18:44 am »
On slate.com, a gentleman by the name of Phil Plait discourses on the "multihued cacophony" of iridescent clouds.  They must bang together or summat, like saucepans.

Perhaps start a new thread called "Ban all metaphor now!" ? Or perhaps "Send all metaphors to the gallows!".

Ah come on. It's closer to malapropism than metaphor - unless he suffers from synaesthesia, of course.

I haven't heard a squeak from my colleague's loud shirt this morning.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4566 on: 11 May, 2017, 01:30:47 pm »
On slate.com, a gentleman by the name of Phil Plait discourses on the "multihued cacophony" of iridescent clouds.  They must bang together or summat, like saucepans.

Perhaps start a new thread called "Ban all metaphor now!" ? Or perhaps "Send all metaphors to the gallows!".

Ah come on. It's closer to malapropism than metaphor - unless he suffers from synaesthesia, of course.

I haven't heard a squeak from my colleague's loud shirt this morning.

A cacophony is a disagreeable sound, so this wight is saying that the clouds he's so fond of are objectionable. I think he's indulging in cackophony, i.e. talking shit.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4567 on: 15 May, 2017, 02:41:05 pm »
I think this one isn't just a spelling error, but from a misunderstanding of the origin & meaning of the term: shoe-in  :facepalm: instead of shoo-in, as if it had something to do with giving something a kicking, not waving it through.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4568 on: 15 May, 2017, 02:46:55 pm »
"This is so fun"

Missing adjective. Seems more prevalent in the US than here but it grates every time I see it.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4569 on: 15 May, 2017, 03:02:47 pm »
I think this one isn't just a spelling error, but from a misunderstanding of the origin & meaning of the term: shoe-in  :facepalm: instead of shoo-in, as if it had something to do with giving something a kicking, not waving it through.

Deserves to be shod out.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4570 on: 24 May, 2017, 03:11:00 pm »
I think this one isn't just a spelling error, but from a misunderstanding of the origin & meaning of the term: shoe-in  :facepalm: instead of shoo-in, as if it had something to do with giving something a kicking, not waving it through.

That's in the same box as "Fine tooth-comb", which we have probably had before.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4571 on: 24 May, 2017, 06:20:44 pm »
I think this one isn't just a spelling error, but from a misunderstanding of the origin & meaning of the term: shoe-in  :facepalm: instead of shoo-in, as if it had something to do with giving something a kicking, not waving it through.

That's in the same box as "Fine tooth-comb", which we have probably had before.

Raise to the ground

Tow the line

ect.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4572 on: 24 May, 2017, 06:32:00 pm »
I think this one isn't just a spelling error, but from a misunderstanding of the origin & meaning of the term: shoe-in  :facepalm: instead of shoo-in, as if it had something to do with giving something a kicking, not waving it through.

That's in the same box as "Fine tooth-comb", which we have probably had before.

Raise to the ground

Tow the line

ect.

As eny fule kno, "ect" has honourable origins, being a creation of n molesworth, the gorila of 3B and curse of st custards ect ect.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4573 on: 24 May, 2017, 06:53:05 pm »
I have witnessed Robyn Hitchcock actually saying "ect ect" during one of his between-song spoken interludes.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #4574 on: 25 May, 2017, 08:03:04 am »
As eny fule kno, "ect" has honourable origins, being a creation of n molesworth, the gorila of 3B and curse of st custards ect ect.

Oops. That was not supposed to be one of the examples in the list!  :facepalm: I can see that it looks like it was, now.
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