Grammar that makes you cringe

[rogerzilla]

The OED only gives "coronate" and "coronated" in the wider context of coronas, apparently.

It's CROWN and CROWNED, and people are trying to appear educated.  It's like the erroneous use of "myself" instead of "me", or random use of "whom".

[Slave To The Viking]

Hell's chuff. I'd been saying "coronated" as a joke. Like..."pronunciated".

I'll have to see how much mileage I can get out of "encoronationed" before that becomes real.

[Cudzoziemiec]

"King Charles's encoronisationment will take place on 5th May."

[Mr Larrington]

Careful now!  That’s straying into Ronspeak territory!

[Cudzoziemiec]

poultry farmers face rising costs for chicken feed

Economic developments that might have larger impact on the language we use....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63708155

[Cudzoziemiec]

There are situations where you have to share information in a non-paperless way, so I do feel they still serve a purpose.

I feel there has to be a situation in which 'non-paperless' does not necessarily mean 'on paper' but I can't think of it. I'm going to look for the answer in the posts below...

[Slave To The Viking]

There are situations where you have to share information in a non-paperless way, so I do feel they still serve a purpose.

I feel there has to be a situation in which 'non-paperless' does not necessarily mean 'on paper' but I can't think of it. I'm going to look for the answer in the posts below...

It's probably more that "on paper" tends to be used figuratively, so it would require an explanation that it was to be taken literally, rather than meaning "in theory, but not necessarily in practice".

"Paperless", however, means "electronic, in a situation where paper traditionally would have been used", so "non-paperless" means "using traditional paper methods rather than the electronic methods now commonly employed".

On paper, at least.

[Cudzoziemiec]

As in "We're a paperless office on paper... "

[Wowbagger]

"King Charles's encoronisationment will take place on 5th May."

A shame it's not a day earlier and then they could have used a light sabre.

[Cudzoziemiec]

...a photo of a staff member wearing a name tag “Gemma” followed by “she/her/hers” (grammarians generally add the possessive to pronoun groups, though most badges use only two).

This could got complicated. "Where's Gemma?" "I haven't seen them, but she's left his phone on the desk."
But it probably won't. Apart from anything else, it would make the badges too big!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/26/pronouns-gendered-language-revolution-britain

[Cudzoziemiec]

Background: Canada's coach (this is bootfall talk) said his team would "eff Croatia". After Croatia won the match, one of their players responded thus:

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGolazo/status/1596944983118184448

Yes, that's "whom". Not only do Croats play better football than Canadians, they even talk better English!

But if it had been ice hockey of course...

[hubner]

https://inews.co.uk/news/train-strikes-this-week-next-rail-strike-dates-december-2022-trains-affected-2009750

When are the next train strikes?
Staff at Network Rail represented by the RMT are set to walk out on Saturday 24 December at 6pm. They will remain on strike through Tuesday 27 December.

This strike involves workers who maintain railways, such as signallers and maintenance workers.

American English. Unless it actually means on strike only during that day of Tuesday 27 December.

[drossall]

I'm sure we've done commas before but, given the approaching season, this seemed worth a mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxfxy-3dGz0

[citoyen]

Not grammar but...

This came up in an online training course I'm having to do for work:

"the offeror or giver must intend the offeree or recipient to act as a result of the bribe"

 

[Tim Hall]

Not grammar but...

This came up in an online training course I'm having to do for work:

"the offeror or giver must intend the offeree or recipient to act as a result of the bribe"

 

Bung the author (or authorer?) a fiver to get them not to do it again.

[Mr Larrington]

Not grammar but...

This came up in an online training course I'm having to do for work:

"the offeror or giver must intend the offeree or recipient to act as a result of the bribe"

 

Bung the author (or authorer?) a fiver blow to the skull with your stoutest knobkerrie to get them not to do it again.

FTFY

[Slave To The Viking]

I may have to start a Semantics That Make(s?) You Cringe thread, for this is not grammar. For now though, I'll put this here.

There's an Amazon ad knocking about, in which Romeo buys Juliet a set of walkie-talkies for Christmas. The reason? Glad you asked. When she asks "Wherefore art thou Romeo?", he can tell her where he is.

"WHEREFORE" MEANS "WHY", NOT "WHERE", DAMN YOU ALL TO BOLLOCKS.

[Mr Larrington]

This ^^^^.

[rafletcher]

Something that always grates with me, is things ‘going extinct’. What’s wrong / incorrect about them ‘becoming extinct’? 

[T42]

Something that always grates with me, is things ‘going extinct’. What’s wrong / incorrect about them ‘becoming extinct’?

Especially if applied to Elon Musk and the Tory party.

[Slave To The Viking]

Something that always grates with me, is things ‘going extinct’. What’s wrong / incorrect about them ‘becoming extinct’?

I'm not sure there's anything wrong or incorrect about it. "Going" is figurative - obviously things don't literally go to a state of extinction, physically shifting their location - but figurative alternative coinages don't mean there's anything wrong with more literal ones. "Becoming extinct" hasn't gone extinct.

I guess "going" can also mean "leaving, disappearing", so there's maybe a sort of (unintentional) poetic suggestion of that within the "going extinct" construction too.

[Sergeant Pluck]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/23/oldham-woman-dies-after-collision-with-police-car

Greater Manchester police said it was about 10am that officers started a pursuit of the vehicle.

Am I justified in being unimpressed by that?

[T42]

The Graun just loves amid:

Pelé, who had a colon tumour removed in 2021, was readmitted to Albert Einstein hospital in São Paulo in November amid deteriorating health.

Any time you visit a hospital you're amid deteriorating health.  Whatever became of with?

[Clare]

The Library of the Lace Guild needs your help!
We have several copies of the Fuselliamo Magazine that we don't have,

 

[Tim Hall]

The Library of the Lace Guild needs your help!
We have several copies of the Fuselliamo Magazine that we don't have,

 

Is Fuselliamo FOREIGN for piling swivel, which in their case they have not got?