Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 840217 times)

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6100 on: 17 May, 2021, 01:54:19 pm »


Oh I've suffered french keyboards, no use for WWW addresses with shifting needed just for a .
Get a UK keyboard that you can plug in, or use BT or wiffy (see what I did there?).

I am keeping with the French keyboard, given that I live in France and have more than the odd occasion to have to use one outside of home. I am almost used to it. Almost but not quite.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6101 on: 24 May, 2021, 02:34:40 pm »
We will work with the commercial customer, be they an institute, a country or a consortia...

Not so much cringe as surprise. The speaker was someone quite big in academic publishing.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cackle
« Reply #6102 on: 05 June, 2021, 10:56:38 am »
Chum of MrsT's reports with pride on FB that her son has just graduated as a US marine with a meretricious promotion to private 1st class.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cackle
« Reply #6103 on: 05 June, 2021, 06:58:16 pm »
Chum of MrsT's reports with pride on FB that her son has just graduated as a US marine with a meretricious promotion to private 1st class.

Are you sure that's a mistake?
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6104 on: 05 June, 2021, 07:38:21 pm »
Do you remember Gore Vidal's retort to a critic who described one of his books as meretricious?  "And a meretricious to you, too".  Reviewing his books must have been a thankless task!

Citoyen - nice one!

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6105 on: 05 June, 2021, 08:20:02 pm »
It’s a Trojan horse kind of word. Or timeo Danaos et dona ferentes as Moggsie baby would have it.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cackle
« Reply #6106 on: 06 June, 2021, 04:27:51 pm »
Chum of MrsT's reports with pride on FB that her son has just graduated as a US marine with a meretricious promotion to private 1st class.

Are you sure that's a mistake?

If they're using the archaic definition, it's possibly some kind of pun.

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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cackle
« Reply #6107 on: 06 June, 2021, 09:22:42 pm »
If they're using the archaic definition, it's possibly some kind of pun.

I had to look that up... crumbs! But, yes!  ;D
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6108 on: 10 June, 2021, 12:13:45 pm »
Heard at the tail end of a news article yesterday...

"The forty year old Olypian came out of retirement to have three children in order to qualify for the Tokyo Olympics"
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6109 on: 10 June, 2021, 12:37:06 pm »
This from West Midlands Police today:-

"....they found the bank card missing."

reminds of Flanders & Swann's wonderful skit on Mozart's Eb (I think) Horn Concerto  - "I found my horn, found my horn, found my horn......gorn."

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6110 on: 10 June, 2021, 12:57:16 pm »
It’s a Trojan horse kind of word. Or timeo Danaos et dona ferentes as Moggsie baby would have it.

Didn't they win the ice dancing championships in the 1964 Winter Olympics?
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cackle
« Reply #6111 on: 10 June, 2021, 01:00:04 pm »
Chum of MrsT's reports with pride on FB that her son has just graduated as a US marine with a meretricious promotion to private 1st class.

Are you sure that's a mistake?

If they're using the archaic definition, it's possibly some kind of pun.

Sam

What happens in the barracks stays in the barracks?
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6112 on: 16 June, 2021, 10:17:56 am »
Notice in Tesco:
"It is mandatory that a face covering is to be worn in store"

 :sick: :sick: :sick:

I much prefer the alternative version by the entrance:
"No face covering, no entry"

Do you really need any more words than that?
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6113 on: 16 June, 2021, 11:04:00 pm »
Well yes, you do.
Unless you refuse entry to people who are mandatorily exempt from having to wear one.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6114 on: 17 June, 2021, 03:13:17 pm »
Well yes, you do.
Unless you refuse entry to people who are mandatorily exempt from having to wear one.

My point is about the grammar. If you want to add extra information to the message, that's a separate matter.
"The future's all yours, you lousy bicycles."

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6115 on: 18 June, 2021, 06:46:43 pm »
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Unanimously most of you feel that there's a phenomenal opportunity to...
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6116 on: 18 June, 2021, 07:52:42 pm »
Today I was reminded of this gem, collected in East Lothian somewhere some years ago.



Sam
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"Created something? Hah! But that would be irresponsible! And unethical! I would never, ever make... more than one."

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6117 on: 21 June, 2021, 01:58:40 pm »
This is an interesting one:
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Most of these intellectual property assets are unique and therefore there isn't many genuine market observable data points available for benchmarking or comparison purposes.

"There" is being treated as a full, not simply dummy, subject rather than "data points". Or simply "there is" has become a fixed phrase. This is from an Australian presentation so possibly a regionalism but I think it's a wider trend.
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ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6118 on: 21 June, 2021, 02:01:11 pm »
The ceaseless rise of unneccessary words in a sentence.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6119 on: 21 June, 2021, 02:07:48 pm »
Quote from:  Strunk & White
Omit needless words
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6120 on: 26 June, 2021, 07:13:44 am »

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6121 on: 29 June, 2021, 11:59:38 pm »
A very, very old man. Possibly the oldest ever!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57658859

(He is 5000 years old, apparently)
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6122 on: 08 July, 2021, 03:51:23 pm »
I've just seen this gem in an email:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6123 on: 08 July, 2021, 04:32:25 pm »
I've just seen this gem in an email:

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Every time I see something like this, I am reminded (painfully) of being in my German class (only four students, it was not a popular class) when I was 11, and our German teacher -- an egotistical, self-congratulatory, moustachioed Scot with a Lothian accent, who insisted he'd been in the German army (only much later did I come to wonder which army) -- wrote "awry" on the blackboard and asked each of us in turn to pronounce it. He came to me last, as even then I had a reputation for being au fait with words and grammar. I remember his utter disappointment awhen I, too, mispronounced it. That was somehow worse than the scorn he meted out to those he did not expect to get it right. I knew the word and what it meant, but had only ever seen it written down.

But this is the reverse, of course — someone who has heard the words, but never seen them written down or, perhaps, not recognised them in writing.

Sam
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"Created something? Hah! But that would be irresponsible! And unethical! I would never, ever make... more than one."

ian

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #6124 on: 08 July, 2021, 04:51:21 pm »
I've just seen this gem in an email:

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I am 100% for this.