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Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« on: 04 January, 2022, 11:02:30 pm »
Typical inflammatory and divisive headline from the Daily Mail. Pretty shocking journalism. As were the comments but what can you expect when you stoke the fire

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/cyclist-ignores-cycle-lane-and-causes-cars-to-veer-into-traffic/vi-AASqfZ4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #1 on: 04 January, 2022, 11:47:05 pm »
Does it really says* “causes cars to veer into traffic”?  I know our old pal Daily Mail Reporter is a bit slow on the uptake, but even so.

* The dokta has forbidden me to open Daily Heil links, y'see.
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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #2 on: 04 January, 2022, 11:52:00 pm »
Is that "veer into traffic" in the "overtake" sense?

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #3 on: 04 January, 2022, 11:58:44 pm »
I'm wondering what the “traffic” consists of?  Lorries?  Airbuses?  Quinquiremes of Nineveh?  The latest offering from Space Karen and his cohorts?
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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #4 on: 04 January, 2022, 11:59:32 pm »
Following on from my overtaking theme, I'm guessing "a gap between oncoming vehicles".

Anyway, perhaps the more interesting question is what was crap about the cycle lane this time?

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #5 on: 05 January, 2022, 12:04:22 am »
It looked like a pavement to me. Big kerb.
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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #6 on: 05 January, 2022, 07:43:19 am »
Following on from my overtaking theme, I'm guessing "a gap between oncoming vehicles".

Anyway, perhaps the more interesting question is what was crap about the cycle lane this time?

A BIG gap in oncoming traffic, so big in fact that no relevant oncoming vehicles were visible in the video.  The veer was just your average poor driving, I must get in front just to immediately brake for a roundabout 2 cars length away.  As for the cycle lane, it looked ok from the 50m or so you got to see, although I am not 100% sure construction of it was actually  complete as even in the short clip there was evidence of ongoing work (construction fencing, signs fallen into cycle path etc) and it ended at the roundabout 10m later. I probably wouldn’t have used it if I were doing anything but turning left at that point as in my view it puts cyclists in a position that was very vulnerable to a left hook.  But I am sure the Mail wasn’t going to let any of that spoil their fury!

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #7 on: 05 January, 2022, 08:45:07 am »
Cyclist (a person) causes cars (are these animate?) to veer...

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #8 on: 05 January, 2022, 09:56:16 am »
Don't bother, all Hitler Digest readers are priapismically enraged about something. Anything really. Cyclists, young people, women, dogs, other old people, Europe, homosexuals, scooters, food that might cause cancer, the BBC, etc. etc. I think all this being angry about other stuff is help the readers deal with the fact that they're utter cunts that I'd cheerfully feed headfirst into an industrial meat processor.
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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #9 on: 05 January, 2022, 01:12:12 pm »
If onlu Daily Mail Reporter has asked on here, we could have referred him to R. v Cadden 2007.

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #10 on: 06 January, 2022, 11:50:34 am »
It looked like a pavement to me. Big kerb.
Indeed.  So unless you are a local and know to get on at the start* then even if you wanted to** you couldn't cycle off the carriageway onto the cycle only route.
* and with those roadworks was it even possible to stay on it?
** there is one in Woodbridge I need to remind myself about joining when joining it is an option, to avoid being decanted onto the A12, though tbh depending on how busy the A12 is preferable anyway.
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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #11 on: 06 January, 2022, 07:48:06 pm »
Indeed.  So unless you are a local and know to get on at the start* then even if you wanted to** you couldn't cycle off the carriageway onto the cycle only route.
...
And the traffic on those sorts of roads generally consists of drivers who may honk, shout abuse, or punishment pass, while failing to consider how dangerous it would be to stop, dismount and lift your bike up the kerb, to "get on the cycle path"  :facepalm:

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #12 on: 06 January, 2022, 08:24:48 pm »
...And know that a mile is a very long way, and about the most that anyone would want to ride on a bike, so therefore all cyclists are  a) local, with intimate knowledge[1] of the area and its farcilities   and   b) not trying to get anywhere in a timely manner.


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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #13 on: 07 January, 2022, 03:07:04 pm »
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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #14 on: 07 January, 2022, 03:45:44 pm »
I thought the title of this thread should have been: "Daily Mail headline, why am I not surprised?"
Meaning that they always come out with the same anti-cycling drivel. 

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Re: Daily Mail headline, why am I surprised?
« Reply #15 on: 07 January, 2022, 05:25:31 pm »
...And know that a mile is a very long way, and about the most that anyone would want to ride on a bike, so therefore all cyclists are  a) local, with intimate knowledge[1] of the area and its farcilities   and   b) not trying to get anywhere in a timely manner.
[1] They're the ones who sometimes ask for directions and don't believe you when you don't know the answer.

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