Author Topic: Compensation for CPU flaws  (Read 1974 times)

Compensation for CPU flaws
« on: 04 January, 2018, 11:07:41 pm »
I wonder if there will be claims for significant recompense/costs associated with American/UK CPU flaws?
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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #1 on: 05 January, 2018, 09:02:47 am »
Allowed a W10 upgrade yesterday and now no longer have USB port 'G'!  It's called 'I' today..

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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #2 on: 05 January, 2018, 10:43:45 am »
Allowed a W10 upgrade yesterday and now no longer have USB port 'G'!  It's called 'I' today..

Why 'I' man?
Should be in the crap jokes thread.  :)
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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #3 on: 05 January, 2018, 10:44:21 am »
I sure there will be a class action, but then there's a class action suit for everything, it being America, the land of competitive litigation.

I'm not sure there's any implied guarantee of performance with any processor and benchmarks only measure performance for those specific tasks being benchmarked. Of course, unless you're running servers, a few per cent here and there make no difference. Macs, it seems, were patched a while back and no one noticed.

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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #4 on: 05 January, 2018, 01:33:51 pm »
Macs, it seems, were patched a while back and no one noticed.
For Meltdown in December. They haven't done Spectre yet.
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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #5 on: 05 January, 2018, 01:58:21 pm »
Wot ian said.  Unless you're rejibbling large video files the CPU of a halfway decent Proper Computer doesn't do much work.
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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #6 on: 05 January, 2018, 03:48:48 pm »
Wot ian said.  Unless you're rejibbling large video files the CPU of a halfway decent Proper Computer doesn't do much work.

Ah.  That'll be me, then, with my hideous pile of Avid Airspeed/ISIS/NEXIS and Isilon.  Oh, and all of Next Door* too.


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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #7 on: 05 January, 2018, 06:09:53 pm »
Well, my multi-million line spreadsheets and semi-sentient formula still take the same amount of time to recalculate. A long time.

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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #8 on: 05 January, 2018, 06:59:59 pm »
Anything doing virtualisation or a lot of IO (think: web servers) is likely to suffer.

Desktop not so much.

Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #9 on: 05 January, 2018, 10:50:08 pm »
Well, there's a surprise...

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Three separate class-action lawsuits have been filed by plaintiffs in California, Oregon and Indiana seeking compensation, with more expected. All three cite the security vulnerability and Intel’s delay in public disclosure from when it was first notified by researchers of the flaws in June. Intel said in a statement it “can confirm it is aware of the class actions but as these proceedings are ongoing, it would be inappropriate to comment”.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/05/intel-class-action-lawsuits-meltdown-spectre-bugs-computer
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Re: Compensation for CPU flaws
« Reply #10 on: 07 January, 2018, 06:06:13 pm »
It seems pointless if there's no implied guarantee of a certain performance level, but then most class action suits are little more than speculative and the plaintiffs have to prove some kind of financial damage (which might work if you're running a server farm, less so if you're updating your Facebook). Apple claim their mitigation had minimal performance impact (there'll be some when they fix the issue with Safari but then Safari is so fast these days it's often loaded a web page before I've thought to go there).

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