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Title: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Martin109 on 18 March, 2010, 04:05:47 pm
There's incomplete info about this on the BBC Sport site:

Cycling – World Track Championships
Wednesday 24 March
7.00-9.00pm BBC TWO

Cycling – World Track Championships
Thursday 25 March
6.30-8.00pm BBC TWO

Cycling – World Track Championships
Friday 26 March
Time to be confirmed BBC TWO

Cycling – World Track Championships
Saturday 27 March
2.15-4.30pm BBC ONE

Cycling – World Track Championships
Sunday 28 March
2.00-5.30pm BBC TWO


I'm shortly off to see these live, but does anyone have the means to record these summaries in a form that could be transmitted to me (eg get_iplayer files)?  I'd be very grateful.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 18 March, 2010, 04:18:05 pm
where? Manchester?
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: robgul on 18 March, 2010, 04:44:43 pm
where? Manchester?

.... nope, wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen !

Rob
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Martin109 on 18 March, 2010, 05:56:44 pm
 Ballerup! (http://www.ballerupsuperarena.dk/)

Fancy organising a Track Day there, Rob? ;D
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: robgul on 18 March, 2010, 07:24:31 pm
Ballerup! (http://www.ballerupsuperarena.dk/)

Fancy organising a Track Day there, Rob? ;D

Nah, we've got to do Ghent ... that has to be THE place :-))

Rob
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: hubner on 24 March, 2010, 07:53:20 pm
I suppose we should be grateful that it's on TV at all, but the it's really hard to follow what's going on.

I'm watching the points race now and the cameraman seems not to understand cycling. We just get random shots of the riders, there are too many close-up shots. When a rider gained a second lap, it's not even shown.

The commentators don't seem to be commenting what is shown to viewers, with the result that the race is not explained to viewers.
 
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Jord on 24 March, 2010, 07:56:09 pm
Eurosport - it's live and in HD  ;D ;D
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: woollypigs on 24 March, 2010, 08:45:45 pm
Watching it on iPlayer atm. One question why is they world champs hold in Copenhagen so often ? Aren't there any other tracks in the world ?
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 24 March, 2010, 08:50:43 pm
Watching it on iPlayer atm. One question why is they world champs hold in Copenhagen so often ? Aren't there any other tracks in the world ?
They hold the Worlds at the good tracks. Manchester has had it twice since 1996. Majorca had it recently
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Steve GT on 25 March, 2010, 10:01:26 am
Off to watch this evenings session. Would I look stupid if I sat watching the cycling in my cycling gear - tights, Shimano winter boots, and a US Postal long sleeved Jersey? ;D

I think home town girlie Lizzie Armitstead is racing, as well as Vicky Pendleton - bonus!
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Moloko on 25 March, 2010, 11:27:21 am
Off to watch this evenings session. Would I look stupid if I sat watching the cycling in my cycling gear - tights, Shimano winter boots, and a US Postal long sleeved Jersey? ;D



Not if you sit there with a large blanket covering your bottom half.   ;)
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Moloko on 25 March, 2010, 12:29:20 pm

So glad that Chris's pedal sheared off on the start line and not in the race.  :o

Could've been very nasty indeed.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Mike J on 25 March, 2010, 07:50:43 pm
Are the riders strapped in to their bikes?

What's the idea of the pacemaker?
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 25 March, 2010, 07:52:56 pm
Yes they are strapped in. The derny is the motorbike, to wind the pace up.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Domestique on 25 March, 2010, 07:57:13 pm
Well done sir Chris  :thumbsup:
Nice wheelie fron 2nd place  :o  :D
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Mike J on 25 March, 2010, 07:58:19 pm
Well done sir Chris  :thumbsup:

+1  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: clifftaylor on 25 March, 2010, 08:50:16 pm
<C Montgomery Burns>

Ahoy-hoy!!

/C Montgomery Burns
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Mr Larrington on 26 March, 2010, 09:40:24 am
Are the riders strapped in to their bikes?

A lot of trackies, especially those at the sprint end of the market, don't trust these new-fangled clipless pedals and still use double toestraps.  I was mildly surprised to find that Jan Van Eijden1 was using such a system when riding at Battle Mountain in 2002, where he had five miles to get up to maximum beans.

1 - He now has the best job in the world.  Imagine getting paid to squeeze Victoria Pendleton's bum :o
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 26 March, 2010, 09:45:44 am
Are the riders strapped in to their bikes?

A lot of trackies, especially those at the sprint end of the market, don't trust these new-fangled clipless pedals and still use double toestraps.  I was mildly surprised to find that Jan Van Eijden1 was using such a system when riding at Battle Mountain in 2002, where he had five miles to get up to maximum beans.

1 - He now has the best job in the world.  Imagine getting paid to squeeze Victoria Pendleton's bum :o

Double toestraps on clipless pedals I believe. Though one rider did a spectacular dismount and landed on his feet when The Old Man brought him down in the Keirin qualifier. OK it wasn't The Old Mans fault.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: David Martin on 26 March, 2010, 09:48:44 am
Are the riders strapped in to their bikes?

A lot of trackies, especially those at the sprint end of the market, don't trust these new-fangled clipless pedals and still use double toestraps.  I was mildly surprised to find that Jan Van Eijden1 was using such a system when riding at Battle Mountain in 2002, where he had five miles to get up to maximum beans.

1 - He now has the best job in the world.  Imagine getting paid to squeeze Victoria Pendleton's bum :o

Double toestraps on clipless pedals I believe. Though one rider did a spectacular dismount and landed on his feet when The Old Man brought him down in the Keirin qualifier. OK it wasn't The Old Mans fault.

Umm.. the old man was sitting in the stands.. (as in David Hoy who goes by the id 'oldmanof' on veloriders..)

Impressive dismount from Mulder though..

..d

Edit: It was not Mulder but Van de Berg (?)
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 26 March, 2010, 10:06:18 am
Hee hee, Old Man of Hoy. Top marks to him for having a sense of humour.  He reminds me of Mr Turnbull, Peter's Dad.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: giropaul on 26 March, 2010, 10:53:10 am
Exustar E-PR107TK Track Pedals from Velodromeshop.org.uk (http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/products/Exustar_E_PR107TK_Pedals-812-98.html)

Used to be SPDRs modified to take straps, but these are as hard to get hold of as hen's teeth now.

I don't know what BC are using at the moment, could be the above.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 26 March, 2010, 04:45:53 pm
Exustar E-PR107TK Track Pedals from Velodromeshop.org.uk (http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/products/Exustar_E_PR107TK_Pedals-812-98.html)

Used to be SPDRs modified to take straps, but these are as hard to get hold of as hen's teeth now.

I don't know what BC are using at the moment, could be the above.
The cleats looked like those last night, at least those or some other three bolt design like Look ones
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Moloko on 26 March, 2010, 04:52:31 pm
Exustar E-PR107TK Track Pedals from Velodromeshop.org.uk (http://www.velodromeshop.org.uk/products/Exustar_E_PR107TK_Pedals-812-98.html)

Used to be SPDRs modified to take straps, but these are as hard to get hold of as hen's teeth now.

I don't know what BC are using at the moment, could be the above.

They're all now using Look pedals.
This was talked about in depth by Rob Hayles and Jamie Staff on Eurosport after the Hoy pedal incident.
They've had to go to the Look system because as you said the others have now exhausted their supply.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 26 March, 2010, 08:27:54 pm
Spectacular crashes in the lasses scratch race. Bike broken in two.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Rhys W on 27 March, 2010, 12:20:56 am
They're all now using Look pedals.
This was talked about in depth by Rob Hayles and Jamie Staff on Eurosport after the Hoy pedal incident.
They've had to go to the Look system because as you said the others have now exhausted their supply.

I've been pondering about this. I noticed most sprint riders have been using Look (or Look type) pedals with single or sometimes double straps. I saw one Japanese rider using traditional pedals with clips. I got up off the sofa and had a good look at my nearest Look Keo pedals, trying to work out how they can thread straps through them. Are they modified, or are they special trackie Look pedals?

I can see how Look pedals would allow you to place your foot in the optimum position every time (once you'd spent time finding it), with the straps being an additional security measure. But still, you'd think a traditional pedal with clip & strap would be more secure for the starting effort of a sprinter or kilo rider?
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Tewdric on 27 March, 2010, 12:31:08 am
Spectacular crashes in the lasses scratch race. Bike broken in two.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01605/crash2_1605119i.jpg)

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01605/crash4_1605120i.jpg)
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: giropaul on 27 March, 2010, 07:58:33 am
Wasn't there a recent thread on here about how carbon bikes would last as well as any other!
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Moloko on 27 March, 2010, 10:06:13 am


I've been pondering about this. I noticed most sprint riders have been using Look (or Look type) pedals with single or sometimes double straps. I saw one Japanese rider using traditional pedals with clips. I got up off the sofa and had a good look at my nearest Look Keo pedals, trying to work out how they can thread straps through them. Are they modified, or are they special trackie Look pedals?



I'm not familiar with Look, so I'm uncertain if they've been modified or not.
I did watch the mechanic change Hoy's pedal though, then he very quickly and effortlessly threaded a strap
on to it.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Moloko on 27 March, 2010, 10:07:23 am

The Yank lass made me cringe. Talk about knocking the wind out of your sails.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 27 March, 2010, 10:11:35 am
Not Look but a mod for SPD-SL

Fitting straps to SPD-SL pedals (http://www.badbean.com/cyclingstuff/spd_straps.htm)

Someone on cycling forums .com (http://www.cyclingforums.com/track-racing/387039-sprinters-track-pedals.html#post3200000) says

Quote
My own pedals are old (Look) style Shimano Dura Ace clipless pedals with a single laminated leather toe strap pop-rivited on to each one. This involves drilling a couple of small holes in the body of the pedal, but it works very well.

So I suspect the world class riders have modiified pedals too


This is the sort of thing I'd do, in fact I might have a go this afternoon. Got some old Look pedals, toeclips and straps
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: MSeries on 27 March, 2010, 10:28:31 am
Watching these championships on TV is making me want to have another session at the National Cycling Centre.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Basil on 27 March, 2010, 05:07:46 pm
Oh my  :thumbsup:

Could have been a nasty tumble though.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Rig of Jarkness on 27 March, 2010, 06:01:49 pm
 >:(  We're not happy...The English Broadcasting Corporation told us to switch to the red button when they finished their BBC1 coverage.  But all we got on the red button was bloody football results, in fact the same programme that was being broadcast on BBC1 Scotland.  The other option on the red button was showing the English football results, and on BBC2 we were getting Gordon Bloody Brown.  Eventually, 45 mins later, they resumed coverage on BBC2 but by that time we'd missed the end of the madison and, more importantly, Miss P.  I regret to say that this is typical of the second rate service that we get from the EBC.
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: Frenchie on 29 March, 2010, 09:31:13 am
I "taped" the afternoon events yesterday; oh my, it made for a great late evening session! This omnium thing is really ace and what a top bloke this Ed Clancy. Well done  Grégory Baugé too (just wish the commentaors could learn to pronounce his and Sireau's name properly; it is not complicated, just listen to the speaker in the Velodrome!).
Title: Re: UCI World Track Champs Coverage
Post by: mattc on 30 March, 2010, 02:42:59 pm
Boar Jay* &

Sear** oh ? (eau being pronounced as in l'eau de toilette)

?

*but with a soft g - like in "j'ai"
** as in searing meat when cooking!