Author Topic: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off  (Read 2590 times)

jane

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Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« on: 01 February, 2019, 07:34:34 am »
I finally fitted this light. And really like it. Got home after a 60 mile ride four days ago. Thought I had switched it off, but the two little leds it has are still on! How on earth do you turn them off!

Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #1 on: 01 February, 2019, 07:51:05 am »
You need to be a bit more specfic.
What model of light is it?

Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #2 on: 01 February, 2019, 08:16:21 am »
I finally fitted this light. And really like it. Got home after a 60 mile ride four days ago. Thought I had switched it off, but the two little leds it has are still on! How on earth do you turn them off!
Standlights?

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #3 on: 01 February, 2019, 08:20:10 am »
I wouldn't mind standlights that lasted four days! Firstly, is this a battery or dynamo light?
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #4 on: 01 February, 2019, 08:44:46 am »
If it's a Secula battery then it could be one of the ones with the impossible switches, I resorted to putting a bent pin in to push the switch as the rubber plunger on the outer wasn't working with it.
If it's got the same switch as the IXON IQ-X then it may be the button press has only put it on the low setting, in which case it needed a long press to turn off from high.


Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #5 on: 01 February, 2019, 09:01:18 am »
If they are on but really faint I've had this with battery LEDs before - although not B&M. I ended up replacing it on warranty and the second one did it as well so I got my money back and used it on dynamos.

In fact there's an old cheap LED battery light in a box in the cupboard which is very faintly glowing and has been for months. Sorry I can't help why this happens but it seems to be an LED thing.

But try the switch thing first.
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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #6 on: 01 February, 2019, 10:02:05 am »
Perhaps the OP can give more information; like, How long did the two LEDs stay lit for after the ride?


Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #7 on: 01 February, 2019, 10:55:14 am »
If they are on but really faint I've had this with battery LEDs before - although not B&M. I ended up replacing it on warranty and the second one did it as well so I got my money back and used it on dynamos.

In fact there's an old cheap LED battery light in a box in the cupboard which is very faintly glowing and has been for months. Sorry I can't help why this happens but it seems to be an LED thing.

But try the switch thing first.
My bold.
I think it is also a flourescent tube thing - where they continue to faintly glow after they've been switched off.

Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #8 on: 01 February, 2019, 12:02:08 pm »
If they are on but really faint I've had this with battery LEDs before - although not B&M. I ended up replacing it on warranty and the second one did it as well so I got my money back and used it on dynamos.

In fact there's an old cheap LED battery light in a box in the cupboard which is very faintly glowing and has been for months. Sorry I can't help why this happens but it seems to be an LED thing.

But try the switch thing first.
My bold.
I think it is also a flourescent tube thing - where they continue to faintly glow after they've been switched off.

Yeah, the inner coating is what fluoresces, and it retains a small charge when the power is turned off, so continues for a short while.
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Kim

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #9 on: 01 February, 2019, 12:03:56 pm »
I can imagine a design (not a very good one) where a tiny amount of current flows through the LED in order to make a soft on/off switch work...

As to the OP's problem, more clues required.  B&M make an awful lot of different LED lights...

Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #10 on: 03 February, 2019, 11:44:47 am »
I've got a Luxos U where the DRL LEDs glow for days if not weeks after use. I can't pretend it's bothered me enough to do more than raise an eyebrow.

rogerzilla

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #11 on: 03 February, 2019, 12:20:34 pm »
There's a very sound hypothesis that the Germans lost WWII because German engineering is crap.
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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #12 on: 03 February, 2019, 12:35:02 pm »
I've got a Luxos U where the DRL LEDs glow for days if not weeks after use. I can't pretend it's bothered me enough to do more than raise an eyebrow.

Mine did that during one phase of its death spiral.

jane

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #13 on: 05 February, 2019, 12:27:58 pm »
Sorry folks..been off yacf for a couple of days.  thought I posted name of light in message header, but see I didn't.  Its the Luxos U

jane

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #14 on: 05 February, 2019, 12:33:30 pm »
They went off finally after 6 days. I only ride this bike about once a week. It does one 60 to 100 mile or so ride a week, generally.


mattc

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #15 on: 05 February, 2019, 02:57:42 pm »
There's a very sound hypothesis that the Germans lost WWII because German engineering is crap.
If they'd lost to the Japanese I might go with that hypothesis.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #16 on: 05 February, 2019, 03:27:09 pm »
They went off finally after 6 days. I only ride this bike about once a week. It does one 60 to 100 mile or so ride a week, generally.
I'm guessing there's a dodgy connection somewhere which meant they didn't disconnect from the battery or capacitor which powers the standlight. Someone who knows about electrics will hopefully be prodded by this post into telling the correct process that's going on and maybe even how to fix it.
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Re: Busch and Muller led lights won’t turn off
« Reply #17 on: 06 February, 2019, 12:12:59 am »
I'm guessing there's a dodgy connection somewhere which meant they didn't disconnect from the battery or capacitor which powers the standlight. Someone who knows about electrics will hopefully be prodded by this post into telling the correct process that's going on and maybe even how to fix it.

The Luxos U is software/microprocessor controlled with various fragile electronics. It's not really amenable to DIY fixing.

(or frankly, being used outdoors)