Author Topic: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.  (Read 1626927 times)

clarion

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6750 on: 27 August, 2015, 10:21:00 am »
In the Grumble thread as it doesn't fit anywhere else.

My grumble is about me, I went out last night to see Soulfly @ The Corporation in Sheffield.

It was a good night, lots of moshing and loud music.

Why the flaming heck did I join in the pit? This morning I can hardly move my left hand, and when I do it is painful.  Standing on my left leg is painful, too.  I must have bruised parts when I fell over :(

I didn't understand any of that post, other than that you went to a gig in Sheffield and that somehow you injured yourself.

Bloody youngsters with their new-fangled words for things I've never heard of.

Soulfly = popular beat combo, m'lud, have been around since the late '90's, known for their very heavy metal style music.
Moshing = a type of "dancing" associated with bands such as Soulfly, which has it's roots is the pogo'ing of the Punk era (late '70's) and the word first appears in a song title in the late '80's (Anthrax - All Caught in a Mosh)

One does wonder just when Mr Wowbagger is going to join the 21st Century :) ;)

Webster dates first usage of 'mosh' at 1983.  Wikipedia says that the word was originally written 'mash' but pronounced 'mosh', and cites Total Mash by Scream in 1982.  I certainly knew the term well when I was working rock gigs in the mid-eighties, and we were making provision for moshpits then.

I can't really think that something thirty-three years old can be considered impossibly new-fangled.
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clarion

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6751 on: 27 August, 2015, 10:25:53 am »
Meanwhile, having Grumbled about a Grumble, I introduce the reason I visited this thread:

Those who have ridden with me will know I do not ride lightweight, and that I carry spare tube, random small parts, pump, and more tools than most people would think reasonable.  And I am relatively untroubled by mechanical issues on the road.

But this week, since I am covering less than 5km per day on the folder, I decided I didn't need any sort of tools.

Today I got a puncture.  I can't even take the wheel off the bike, and, even if I could, there is nothing I could do about the leaky tube :facepalm:

I shall be taking a longer lunch break today, and walking to a handy local bike shop.  White's - anyone heard of it?  Hopefully riding back.
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Basil

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« Reply #6752 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:04:54 am »
I appear to have neglected to shave this morning.

As Mrs. B constantly informs me, young men with stubble look rugged and interesting.  Old men look like they're sleeping rough.
Admission.  I'm actually not that fussed about cake.

essexian

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« Reply #6753 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:19:55 am »
Like most people, clocks play a quite important part in my life: try as an experiment going for a period of time without looking at one… I bet after a few weeks you would learn approximately what the time was by the rising and setting of the sun. However, that’s not quite good enough for most of us, so we have time pieces which are accurate to nano seconds or better.

In my life there are eight clocks I interact with daily. Firstly, there is the alarm clock by my bed which I never need to set as my internal clock always seems to know when it’s time to get up (it’s either that or my bladder which controls my waking time!). Then there is the clock on my phone which tends to regulate my movements when I am out and of course there is the clock on my PVR….who can live without recorded television (I know the answer to this: quite a few people). I think however, the two most important clocks are the one my grandfather made back in the 1920's as an apprentice; it’s the only thing of his I own, and of course the little clock in the corner of my PC….I tend to watch that all day: it must be going home time soon!

The final two clocks are the one I was brought as a leaving gift by my ex workmates when I left London in 1988 and the clock in the kitchen….it’s this latter clock I wish to rant about. Many thanks for getting this far.

The kitchen clock is like the London clock, a quartz clock but unlike the London clock it ticks….a tick which is so loud you can hear it from the bedrooms, especially at night when you can’t sleep. Why, do clock makers (I know they aren’t actually clock makers in the old school sense of things), put ticks in quartz clocks: THEY DON’T NEED TO TICK! It’s a pointless sound; just like the camera shutter sound my phone makes when I take a photo. NO, that’s not needed either!

I hate ticking clocks (we don’t have my granddads clock working as it ticks but then it has the old style brass inners so needs to tick to work) as it reminds me my life is slipping away one tick at a time. Something you don’t need to be reminded of when you are laying in bed at 4am nursing a sick tabby cat.

If I was King, I would ban ticking quartz clocks.

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« Reply #6754 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:30:31 am »
  White's - anyone heard of it?  Hopefully riding back.

This won't add anything to your day.....
Website says 'Closed on Thursdays'  :(
http://www.whitescyclecentre.co.uk/

Cudzoziemiec

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« Reply #6755 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:34:16 am »
Surely the tick comes from the hands and cogs moving? It's nothing to do with being quartz. Unless you mean a digital clock.
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essexian

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« Reply #6756 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:38:09 am »
Surely the tick comes from the hands and cogs moving? It's nothing to do with being quartz. Unless you mean a digital clock.

I am not sure what I mean anymore. I just hate clocks which tick which have no right to tick.


Mr Larrington

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« Reply #6757 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:54:56 am »
I know what Sir means.  My PVR does not have a time display, the legacy VHS recorder's display is so dim it can scarce be seen from a foot away and the portable telephone remains decently on the table with its little flippy lid firmly closed.  Hence the Great Hall has a cheapo battery-energised quartz wall clock.

It ticks.  Loudly.

Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.) has his andestral grandfather clock, which is loud and hideous.  Dr Larrington and I are both adamant that we don't want to inherit it but she's the one with the seventeenth century house.  And the open fireplace.
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Kim

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6758 on: 27 August, 2015, 12:07:26 pm »
Barakta, the resident deafie, hates ticking clocks with a passion.  It's the sort of high frequency sound that cuts through everything else and drives her bonkers.  I've been recruited to source digital clocks with no moving parts for her former office, and needless to say all our clocks at home are either LED or LCD digital.  (I can't be bothered with analogue clocks - growing up with a sufficiency of digital ones that just had the time written on them, decoding an analogue clock face never became intuitive.)

As such, I've moved on and my new hatred is for clocks with hopeless frequency references:  Portable battery-powered devices with no network connectivity (eg. cycle computers) are allowed to be crap at keeping time.  Anything else has no excuse.  The clock on the oven does an admirable job of avoiding long-term drift by counting mains cycles.  The one on the microwave has no excse.  Mobile phones that don't get their time from the network (or if applicable, GPS) are just embarrassing.

clarion

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6759 on: 27 August, 2015, 12:07:54 pm »
  White's - anyone heard of it?  Hopefully riding back.

This won't add anything to your day.....
Website says 'Closed on Thursdays'  :(
http://www.whitescyclecentre.co.uk/

In Barnehurst no one can hear you scream.
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clarion

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6760 on: 27 August, 2015, 02:00:22 pm »
Mended!  Fortunately, Bexley Cycle Centre in Bexleyheath was only a bit further away open, and owned by a very pleasant chap. :thumbsup:
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hellymedic

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6761 on: 27 August, 2015, 02:50:27 pm »
Barakta, the resident deafie, hates ticking clocks with a passion.  It's the sort of high frequency sound that cuts through everything else and drives her bonkers.  I've been recruited to source digital clocks with no moving parts for her former office, and needless to say all our clocks at home are either LED or LCD digital.  (I can't be bothered with analogue clocks - growing up with a sufficiency of digital ones that just had the time written on them, decoding an analogue clock face never became intuitive.).

There a TWO loudly ticking electric clocks in my kitchen about which barakta did not complain.

Mr Larrington

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« Reply #6762 on: 27 August, 2015, 05:12:26 pm »
Is it right that a needle should be so blunt as to require pliers to force it through the waistband of a pair of Craghoppers yet at the same time still hurt like fuck when it continues through the trousers, through the hole in the button you are attempting to replace and into your thumb?

Arse >:(
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barakta

  • Bastard lovechild of Yomiko Readman and Johnny 5
Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6763 on: 27 August, 2015, 05:57:52 pm »
Barakta, the resident deafie, hates ticking clocks with a passion.  It's the sort of high frequency sound that cuts through everything else and drives her bonkers.  I've been recruited to source digital clocks with no moving parts for her former office, and needless to say all our clocks at home are either LED or LCD digital.  (I can't be bothered with analogue clocks - growing up with a sufficiency of digital ones that just had the time written on them, decoding an analogue clock face never became intuitive.).

There a TWO loudly ticking electric clocks in my kitchen about which barakta did not complain.

I don't recall hearing those... Also I probably wouldn't complain about a host's ticking clock.

hellymedic

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6764 on: 27 August, 2015, 11:42:26 pm »
Barakta, the resident deafie, hates ticking clocks with a passion.  It's the sort of high frequency sound that cuts through everything else and drives her bonkers.  I've been recruited to source digital clocks with no moving parts for her former office, and needless to say all our clocks at home are either LED or LCD digital.  (I can't be bothered with analogue clocks - growing up with a sufficiency of digital ones that just had the time written on them, decoding an analogue clock face never became intuitive.).

There a TWO loudly ticking electric clocks in my kitchen about which barakta did not complain.

I don't recall hearing those... Also I probably wouldn't complain about a host's ticking clock.

I suppose, as clocks go, they're fairly low frequency so might mostly be below your threshold. They are also about 7 feet above the floor, which might alter their impact on you.

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« Reply #6765 on: 28 August, 2015, 12:24:47 am »
(I can't be bothered with analogue clocks - growing up with a sufficiency of digital ones that just had the time written on them, decoding an analogue clock face never became intuitive.)
That stunned me. I can see how it can happen, but I'd not thought of the possibility in our world, this country in the late 20th century. I can't remember reading a clock face not being automatic, much faster than reading the numbers, though I can remember remembering not being able to do it, when I was small. I realised many years ago that numbers on the face are unnecessary. I actually prefer number-free faces. No distraction.

I wonder if that's just having learned it thoroughly, or if it's something to do with different people

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Mobile phones that don't get their time from the network (or if applicable, GPS) are just embarrassing.
Damn right.
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« Reply #6766 on: 28 August, 2015, 11:22:24 am »
Work, pah.
Grumble#1: Colleagues, please stop telling me to go to the doctor. It's a cough. What on earth do you think the doctor is going to tell me.

According to NHS online:
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Many chest infections aren't serious and get better within a few days or weeks. You won't usually need to see your GP, unless your symptoms suggest you have a more serious infection (see below).

What's more
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You should see your GP if:
  • you feel very unwell or your symptoms are severe
  • you have a persistent fever
  • your symptoms last longer than three weeks
  • you feel confused, disorientated or drowsy
  • you have chest pain or difficulty breathing
  • you cough up blood or blood-stained phlegm
  • your skin or lips develop a blue tinge (cyanosis)
  • you are pregnant
  • you are 65 or over
  • you are very overweight and have difficulty breathing
  • you think a child under five has a chest infection
  • you have a weakened immune system
  • you have a long-term health condition
AND THAT'S NOT ME
It's just a bloomin' cough. Noisy, unpleasant, no fun for me... but not worthy of a doctor's visit. Still here in a fortnight and I might start listening to you. Until then, ignore it. I'm trying to do the same.

Grumble#2
Putting letters after your name on your emails is wanky. I keep thinking I'll stick (BSc Hons) on there, but I can't bring myself to do it. It's wanky.

barakta

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« Reply #6767 on: 28 August, 2015, 11:29:20 am »
Work, pah.
Grumble#1: Colleagues, please stop telling me to go to the doctor. It's a cough. What on earth do you think the doctor is going to tell me.

My lot decided I had TB once cos someone we worked with was rumoured to have it, I emailed my epidemiologist TB specialist friend to ask and was fairly happy I did not have TB but I did get nagged for weeks.  As it was I had to see the doc cos the computer deleted my drugs again so got her to confirm I was unlikely to have TB.

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Grumble#2
Putting letters after your name on your emails is wanky. I keep thinking I'll stick (BSc Hons) on there, but I can't bring myself to do it. It's wanky.

This!  I work in a university. Unless you have a PhD and about 4 Masters degrees, or you're differentiating or showing you are both a medical Dr and a PhD doctor No One Gives A Fuck! People who willy-wave with credentials tend to get laughed at, I'm not even going to try and compete or pretend I have creds I don't. Either they give me a chance and engage or they can get escalated appropriately.

It seems de rigeur to do MA Oxon in some fields though, law for example... Still makes me snort. 

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« Reply #6768 on: 28 August, 2015, 11:44:02 am »
Grumble#2
Putting letters after your name on your emails is wanky. I keep thinking I'll stick (BSc Hons) on there, but I can't bring myself to do it. It's wanky.

The wankiness of it knows no bounds.

(signed)

Mr Larrington BSC SSC
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Dibdib

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« Reply #6769 on: 28 August, 2015, 12:54:50 pm »
Grumble#2
Putting letters after your name on your emails is wanky. I keep thinking I'll stick (BSc Hons) on there, but I can't bring myself to do it. It's wanky.

The wankiness of it knows no bounds.

(signed)

Mr Larrington BSC SSC

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« Reply #6770 on: 28 August, 2015, 01:11:46 pm »
Grumble#2
Putting letters after your name on your emails is wanky. I keep thinking I'll stick (BSc Hons) on there, but I can't bring myself to do it. It's wanky.

The wankiness of it knows no bounds.

(signed)

Mr Larrington BSC SSC

Agreed

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« Reply #6771 on: 28 August, 2015, 01:51:02 pm »
It seems de rigeur to do MA Oxon in some fields though, law for example... Still makes me snort.

I *think* that putting MA (Oxon) or (Cantab) in is only partly about "hey, I went to Oxbridge" willy-waving - the other part of it is a sotto voce "but I didn't actually do extra work for my MA" because both institutions automagically upgrade your undergrad degree after five years or so (well, if you send 'em fifty quid to do it).

ian

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« Reply #6772 on: 28 August, 2015, 02:30:13 pm »
The Americans love the entire arse-end letters trail after the name thing. I'd say they should be shot, and I guess, given they're Americans there's probably a fair chance they will be.

I can't be bothered PhDing. I'm pretty sure my innate intelligence signs through with all the power of a 40 watt filament bulb.

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« Reply #6773 on: 28 August, 2015, 02:30:50 pm »
Almost.  I don't know what the situation is at the Complete Dump, but I got my MA (Cantab) three years after graduating (I think seven years after matriculation is the norm).  There was no additional charge - just a letter inviting me to a ceremony at the Senate House (declined) and a stickyfoot a few weeks later.

Kim

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Re: The Grumble Thread - No energy for a full on rant.
« Reply #6774 on: 28 August, 2015, 02:39:57 pm »
(I can't be bothered with analogue clocks - growing up with a sufficiency of digital ones that just had the time written on them, decoding an analogue clock face never became intuitive.)
That stunned me. I can see how it can happen, but I'd not thought of the possibility in our world, this country in the late 20th century. I can't remember reading a clock face not being automatic, much faster than reading the numbers, though I can remember remembering not being able to do it, when I was small. I realised many years ago that numbers on the face are unnecessary. I actually prefer number-free faces. No distraction.

I wonder if that's just having learned it thoroughly, or if it's something to do with different people

I'm sure I've talked about this before.

Before I was born, my parents lived in various parts of Africa for about ten years, and we spent a couple of years in The Gambia before moving back the the UK permanently.  As such, most of the things that were in the house I grew up in were either old and important enough to have been in long-term storage for most of the 70s, the few items that had been worth air-freighting around, or things that were bought new as they were needed in the early-mid 80s, when digital clocks were cheap and trendy.

Which meant that the analogue clocks of my childhood consisted of my dad's watch, my mum's watch (proper old-school nurse's one with a smooth second hand movement) and the one on the windowsill in the kitchen that was out of child eye-line (though mum would get it down so we could play with the novelty of ticking and winding occasionally).  Meanwhile there were various appliances with integrated digital clocks, a couple of new clock-radios with digital displays, my brother and I both had digital alarm clocks in our bedrooms, and as we got older - like most children of the 80s - we were so amazingly primitive that cheap beepy digital watches with garish straps seemed like a pretty neat idea.

Obviously I was still taught how to read an an analogue clock in the usual way - it being a staple of small-child education, but because all the useful time sources in the environment I grew up in were digital, it's a skill that never really became intuitive.  As I became old enough to choose my own clocks, I naturally opted for digital displays, because as I say, they've just got the time written on them.  Obviously I still need to read an analogue clock in public places or in pictures from time to time, but not often enough to get really good at it.  They remain more of a geometry exercise than an intuitive display.

I wonder if this trend will continue amongst later generations?  I suppose the average person's under 30's watch is a mobile phone, though technology has progressed to the point where you can have analogue displays on your digital device if you want to.  We've also accepted that while digital timepieces are cheap, accurate and ubiquitous, they're not cool, and in the rare event of buying a timepiece for it's own sake, the display is probably more likely to be analogue.  Dedicated public clocks (in stations etc.) tend to be analogue, except when they're the time displayed in the corner of a screen of information. 

And maybe most people are just better at it than I am, in spite of not actually using the skill very often?

I also struggle to read joined-up writing, for broadly similar reasons - by the time I was in my teens, cheap computer printing had become sufficiently common that hand-written notices and letters were a rarity, and most people print or use block capitals on signs and labels.