Author Topic: Southend Football (Read 84352 times)

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #550 on:** 23 January, 2023, 04:21:26 pm »

Plus even if the economics are the same, a football club isn't really like other businesses.

Jaded · « **Reply #551 on:** 23 January, 2023, 05:12:08 pm »

Indeed. You can spend a lot of money on players, staff, a manager, football director etc. and yet still get beaten a lot. You lose customers, and maybe even a division.

If you want a cynic's view of a club being supported for reasons other than purely football, just ask.

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #552 on:** 23 January, 2023, 06:12:43 pm »

Quote from: DuncanM on 23 January, 2023, 03:58:35 pm

There is a good case that football clubs, especially community ones in the lower leagues shouldn't be regular businesses, but should be some for of community asset. If you force everyone to run at break even then being fan owned suddenly seems like a viable plan. But there are too many fans waiting for the right owner to come along and spend billions to get them to the promised land. And there are owners like those at Stoke (the Coates family?) who resent being blocked from putting more money in.

Ownership by the club's supporters is the norm in quite a few parts of Abroad, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fan-owned_sports_teams#Association_football but rare in the extreme in the higher echelons of English foopball.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #553 on:** 23 January, 2023, 06:47:56 pm »

Surprisingly common in Scotland though according to that list.

DuncanM · « **Reply #554 on:** 25 January, 2023, 04:11:23 pm »

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 23 January, 2023, 06:47:56 pm

Surprisingly common in Scotland though according to that list.

Not really.
One of the main problems with English football is that there's a huge income gap between the divisions, but in Scotland that gap is relatively small, so getting relegated doesn't bankrupt you, and getting promoted can't resurrect poor finances. That means you can run at break-even and still aim for success (however that is defined).

Wowbagger · « **Reply #555 on:** 28 January, 2023, 04:35:51 pm »

On idly checking today's match, Southend are 2 - 0 down v Eastleigh, at Roots Hall.

Next week, they are at home to York City in the National League, and the week after they will be at home to York City in the FA Challenge Trophy. Pretty boring for the York players to have to make that trip on consecutive weekends.

Wowbagger · « **Reply #556 on:** 29 January, 2023, 09:16:17 pm »

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/23283241.southend-united-fans-protest-chairman-ron-martin/

A protest against Ron Martin from 100 or so fans before yesterday's game. Of course, the club is now totally addicted to the guy as without him paying their bills they would have already gone into liquidation - no doubt due in a large part to his "stewardhip" over the past 17 years.

De Sisti · « **Reply #557 on:** 05 February, 2023, 01:45:38 pm »

Salford and Stockport doing quite well. Altrincham OK at the moment.

Hair_Today_Gone_Tomorrow · « **Reply #558 on:** 06 February, 2023, 05:40:02 pm »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64482329

I fear the Fat Lady may be clearing her voice soon

Wowbagger · « **Reply #559 on:** 11 February, 2023, 10:14:53 pm »

Having beaten York City 2 - 0 last week in the League, just to be even-handed, Southend lost 2 - 0 to them today in the FA Trophy 5th round match.

Southend haven't paid St. John's Ambulance for recent home matches and they have refused to cover any more. According to this article, it is a condition of the club playing home games that first aid facilities are available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-64589595

Wowbagger · « **Reply #560 on:** 14 February, 2023, 11:25:01 pm »

Another win for Sarfend this evening. Probably won't count for a lot when they get the winding-up order.

Hair_Today_Gone_Tomorrow · « **Reply #561 on:** 20 February, 2023, 11:18:21 am »

Have Southend United played their last ever home game?.....wait until next month for the answer

Wowbagger · « **Reply #562 on:** 20 February, 2023, 02:23:19 pm »

There was another demo against the slippery Mr. Martin’s tenure on Saturday.

Wowbagger · « **Reply #563 on:** 22 February, 2023, 03:31:37 pm »

A decisive thumping by Notts County yesterday, 4 - 0. Southend managed a 2-2 draw in their home match against the same opponents.

That leaves an enormous 33-point gap between Southend, in 6th place, and Notts County, in first. I was reading a moderately interesting analytical piece about how big the gulf is in the premiership between the top 2 or 3 clubs and the rest. It seems the problem also extends to the National League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/22/premier-league-three-way-title-race-premier-league-unequal-as-ever

Peter · « **Reply #564 on:** 22 February, 2023, 05:16:02 pm »

In finance, certainly but in points not: the gulf between 3rd and 6th is only 11 points in the Premier Bank. Even the bottom team is "only" 31 points behind the 3rd placed team. But there certainly doesn't seem to be the much-vaunted trickle-down effect.

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #565 on:** 23 February, 2023, 07:49:44 pm »

The Roots Hall faithful are on C4 News atm.

Peter · « **Reply #566 on:** 23 February, 2023, 08:19:52 pm »

Both at once?

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #567 on:** 23 February, 2023, 08:39:17 pm »

Quote from: Peter on 23 February, 2023, 08:19:52 pm

Both at once?

Yes; Wowbagger and his Tilley hat.

Peter · « **Reply #568 on:** 23 February, 2023, 08:49:59 pm »

Wowbagger · « **Reply #569 on:** 23 February, 2023, 09:33:27 pm »

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 23 February, 2023, 08:39:17 pm

Quote from: Peter on 23 February, 2023, 08:19:52 pm
Both at once?
Yes; Wowbagger and his Tilley hat.

Tilley hats are so last year...

Wowbagger · « **Reply #570 on:** 23 February, 2023, 09:40:52 pm »

Anna Firth demonstrated in that C4 news broadcast that she doesn't understand what a free market is.

Wowbagger · « **Reply #571 on:** 26 February, 2023, 12:20:41 pm »

Southend recorded a 2 - 1 away to Torquay yesterday. This could be their last ever game.

Hair_Today_Gone_Tomorrow · « **Reply #572 on:** 27 February, 2023, 08:54:47 am »

Quote from: Wowbagger on 26 February, 2023, 12:20:41 pm

Southend recorded a 2 - 1 away to Torquay yesterday. This could be their last ever game.

There seems to be rumours going around that RM has sourced the loan he needs to pay off the HMRC winding up petition

Not seen anything to verify those rumours, or even an authentic source

Wowbagger · « **Reply #573 on:** 28 February, 2023, 11:23:21 pm »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64799980

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Southend United say they have paid the £1.4m tax bill owed to HM Revenue & Customs in time for the club's winding-up hearing on Wednesday.

One wonders who would lend such a massive sum to such a financial basket case.

Peter · « **Reply #574 on:** 01 March, 2023, 02:34:57 am »

The people who are going to build the supermarket? Or have I got mixed up?