Author Topic: Interesting or unusual planes? (Read 390195 times)

clarion · « **Reply #225 on:** 17 May, 2012, 01:34:13 pm »

The Wright Brothers were cycle framebuilders.

Just sayin'...

Bicycle Repair Man · « **Reply #226 on:** 17 May, 2012, 08:59:33 pm »

Quote from: David Martin on 17 May, 2012, 01:31:49 pm

I have this sneaking suspicion that Mr Yates is slowly constructing a replica DH2 somewhere in his workshop..

Alas no, but the handle on the workshop door used to be the canopy jetison handle on a Vampire

I also have the Ejector seat warning triangle from the same aircraft that used to be on the back of my office seat at Steels. Sad or what !!!

Dave Yates

Adrian · « **Reply #227 on:** 17 May, 2012, 09:09:13 pm »

Quote from: Bicycle Repair Man on 17 May, 2012, 08:59:33 pm

Quote from: David Martin on 17 May, 2012, 01:31:49 pm
I have this sneaking suspicion that Mr Yates is slowly constructing a replica DH2 somewhere in his workshop..

Alas no, but the handle on the workshop door used to be the canopy jetison handle on a Vampire I also have the Ejector seat warning triangle from the same aircraft that used to be on the back of my office seat at Steels. Sad or what !!!

Dave Yates

The first part, definitely not. Sensible re-use I'd say.

clarion · « **Reply #228 on:** 17 May, 2012, 09:18:14 pm »

Seat at Steels? Considering how busy you must have been, I am amazed you had time to ever sit down!

Bicycle Repair Man · « **Reply #229 on:** 18 May, 2012, 07:35:25 am »

Quote from: clarion on 17 May, 2012, 09:18:14 pm

Seat at Steels? Considering how busy you must have been, I am amazed you had time to ever sit down!

I didnt do much, just sat in the office drinking coffee and supervising the minions

Back on topic, have a look at this chaps pics, absolutely stunning.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/last_lightning/7217592360/in/photostream/

Cheers

Dave Yates

Bicycle Repair Man · « **Reply #230 on:** 22 May, 2012, 07:01:03 am »

Seen in the vicinity yesterday

Cheers

Dave Yates

clarion · « **Reply #231 on:** 22 May, 2012, 09:15:12 am »

Blimmin local hooligans! Scorching around in their machines, making noise, doing donuts, producing clouds of smoke...

David Martin · « **Reply #232 on:** 22 May, 2012, 01:39:07 pm »

How many are currently flying? Are they back to 9 or flying 7 at the moment?

TimC · « **Reply #233 on:** 22 May, 2012, 01:42:32 pm »

7 for this season.

tiermat · « **Reply #234 on:** 08 June, 2012, 04:42:41 am »

Once again no photo (too slow again)m but just the other day, flying over Northallerton, I saw a SAAB Viggen. Either that or it was a Eurofighter, I have only jusst realised that they both have a similar profile.

PeteB99 · « **Reply #235 on:** 08 June, 2012, 09:41:45 am »

Quote from: tiermat on 08 June, 2012, 04:42:41 am

Once again no photo (too slow again)m but just the other day, flying over Northallerton, I saw a SAAB Viggen. Either that or it was a Eurofighter, I have only jusst realised that they both have a similar profile.

I think all the Viggens have been retired by now. Its replacement the SA39 Gripen looks fairly similar though.

clarion · « **Reply #236 on:** 08 June, 2012, 10:04:21 am »

I think some Viggens are in private hands now.

PeteB99 · « **Reply #237 on:** 08 June, 2012, 10:11:11 am »

Mebbe. Wiki reckons the last Viggen flew in June 2007.

Torslanda · « **Reply #238 on:** 10 June, 2012, 02:05:20 pm »

ISTR there is quite a difference in size between the Viggen and the Typhoon.

Having said that there is also the 'these are very small, those are very far away' factor.

I am a dickhead.

bomber · « **Reply #239 on:** 12 June, 2012, 01:11:28 pm »

Quote from: Adrian on 18 April, 2012, 09:54:43 pm

Quote from: bomber on 18 April, 2012, 08:19:30 pm
The beechcraft starship uses a similar layout, you can tell them apart by the shape of the fuselage, and the Piaggio has a conventional tail as well as the carnards at the front.
Thanks, I reckon it was the Piaggio with the straighter wings

There was one at Bournemouth yesterday, missed it as it taxied past our apron but got a photo of it at the hold;

clarion · « **Reply #240 on:** 13 June, 2012, 04:30:57 pm »

Goodyear airship low over Southwark this lunchtime. It came south roughly over Waterloo Bridge, turned overhead at the Imperial War Museum, and headed towards London Bridge, seeming to struggle in the wind, and drifting sideways. But it turned West again and seemed to adopt a rather nose-up attitude, drifting rather, before looping around at a slightly higher altitude, then towards the North, when I lost sight of it.

Bicycle Repair Man · « **Reply #241 on:** 13 June, 2012, 08:02:45 pm »

VC10 tanker at Coningsby this lunchtime. Did a fast low (for a VC10) run, sharp climb to circuit height, full circuit, low approach then climb out. I was walking the dogs so no camera.

Dave Yates

clarion · « **Reply #242 on:** 13 June, 2012, 08:09:46 pm »

The military spec is interesting as its a mix of the VC10 and Super.

Bicycle Repair Man · « **Reply #243 on:** 13 June, 2012, 08:55:07 pm »

Quote from: clarion on 13 June, 2012, 08:09:46 pm

The military spec is interesting as its a mix of the VC10 and Super.

Still got mucky engines !!! Huge smoke trail as it climbed out.

DY

TimC · « **Reply #244 on:** 13 June, 2012, 09:55:41 pm »

Quote from: clarion on 13 June, 2012, 08:09:46 pm

The military spec is interesting as its a mix of the VC10 and Super.

Depends which version. The original CMk1 was indeed such a hybrid, but the later KMk2 and KMk3 were converted commercial VC10s and stretched Super VC10s acquired from various sources - in fact, the RAF at one point owned 34 of the 56 VC10s ever produced!

They're down to just a handful now, and I'm not sure any of the original CMk1s (which were modified to become a 2-point combi tanker/freighter) are still in service.

clarion · « **Reply #245 on:** 13 June, 2012, 10:06:17 pm »

Have you ever flown one? I'm curious as to how they behave, being an (almost) unique layout.

Steph · « **Reply #246 on:** 13 June, 2012, 10:26:46 pm »

Almost unique? Saw an Ilyushin 62 at work a little while ago, with the odd tail prop extended to stop its arse hitting the tarmac when empty.
We used to have regular Tu154s here, speaking of dirty aircraft. Not only were the jet efflux nozzles caked in soot, and the planes as noisy as, but when they took off you could follow their passage by the smoke trails.

clarion · « **Reply #247 on:** 13 June, 2012, 10:33:53 pm »

I said it quite deliberately, as it's usually accepted that the Il-62 was a copy, though I'm not sure of the chronology.

TimC · « **Reply #248 on:** 14 June, 2012, 07:21:16 am »

Quote from: clarion on 13 June, 2012, 10:06:17 pm

Have you ever flown one? I'm curious as to how they behave, being an (almost) unique layout.

Yes, I have. I was never a VC10 pilot but, as boss of Air to Air Refuelling teaching outfit at Lyneham, I had a great deal to do with 101 Sqn who operated the 3-point K2 and K3 tankers which we refuelled from after the Victor, Vulcan and Hercules tankers had retired. The aeroplane was a delight to fly, and had no vices within the normal flight envelope. It had relatively huge amounts of power, and was great fun at training weights! The passenger version, without all the bits sticking out into the airflow, was extremely fast by modern standards - able to cruise at M0.9. Mind you, it absolutely ate fuel! With a maximum load of 140-ish passengers and at about 150 tonnes, it would burn more fuel than my A340-600 - which is over 200 tonnes heavier! In the late '80s the RAF had brought the standard cruise speed down to M0.84, which both saved a lot of fuel and allowed the aircraft to be more compatible with modern airliner traffic in a procedural (speed-constrained) environment like the North Atlantic.

clarion · « **Reply #249 on:** 14 June, 2012, 02:54:16 pm »

Interesting. Thanks. It's a joy of this forum that there are people with all sorts of experience to draw on, and I thought it was a fair bet that you'd played with a VC-10. Magnificent beast to look at, but it sounds like it lived up to the promise in flight.